What Stevie Knows About Men

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by Christopher

I wouldn't exactly carbon date Secret Love's origins to her 1st year in Fleetwood Mac based upon Stevie's shaky recollections. However if SL was written in 75'-76' and it happened to be about Mick, not only is it possible that she was still technically with Lindsey, but also Mick would have still been technically married.

But I'm not jumping to that easy conclusion. I think its possible SL was written anywhere from 75'-78' based upon her voice and other demos with that same keyboard ("Castaway", etc.) Stevie had a notorious lively bachelorette rock n roll lifestyle esp. in those 1st five years in Fleetwood Mac & was linked to many successful men in music (on stage & behind the scenes) Secret Love could be about many paramours she left crying in the night, especially in light of this article. She clearly looked at her male relationships as part romance, part career advancement and was willing to walk away in order to grow and stay in control. And looking back at just some of her romances, this assertion seems to fit. Lindsey-Don Heney-Paul Fishkin-Jimmy Iovine. plus there were the others she had fleeting relationships with: Walter Egan, JD Souther, Mick Fleetwood and others behind the scenes, you'd need a detective to put together a timeline to keep up with Stevie from 75'-79'

Golly.... you make Stevie sound like a ho?! Oh wait... maybe she was just a little... hehe

[daniellaaarisen]

This article really illustrates yet another major reason why I love Stevie... She is constantly inspiring me to become an overwhelming feminine force for the sake of controlling my own life in the way that she does.

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

This article really illustrates yet another major reason why I love Stevie... She is constantly inspiring me to become an overwhelming feminine force for the sake of controlling my own life in the way that she does.

Is that not already the definition of "Woman"?

[chiliD]

Ok, the grouchy old high-school English teacher in me is roaring to get out:

There's no such word as "learnt"....it's "learned".

UGH! The continual butchering of the English language is Goddamned annoying.

[LilyRose]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Ok, the grouchy old high-school English teacher in me is roaring to get out:

There's no such word as "learnt"....it's "learned".

UGH! The continual butchering of the English language is Goddamned annoying.

LOL But it must be commonly used in British English because I have several friends from England who use it quite often.

[brocadelady]

Learned is the american english verb conjugation whilst Learnt is the british english verb conjugation....
Often 'learnt' is preferred in that it eliminates the confusion between 'learned' the verb and 'learned' the adjective.
I personally prefer learned, along with spelled, spilled etc and am often berated for my use of them. Oh yeah I am in the UK.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I think it's funny that people nitpick about details in Stevie's interviews and say she's lying or making stuff up. Honestly, I'm 41 and when I try to recall something that happened ten years ago, hell five years ago, God knows I'm lucky I can get years right let alone specific dates, emotions or conversations. And I'm sure telling a story over and over again you probably find yourself repeating the story not from the memory of the actual event but rather from the last time you talked about it, and that obviously will lead to inconsistencies as the years go on. I can imagine what it's like for a woman of 63 years who's been through both cocaine and klonopin addiction and has a lot more stories to tell people than most of us. Thank God people don't compare my stories, emails and blog posts. You would all think I was totally nuts. LOL.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by brocadelady

Learned is the american english verb conjugation whilst Learnt is the british english verb conjugation....
Often 'learnt' is preferred in that it eliminates the confusion between 'learned' the verb and 'learned' the adjective.
I personally prefer learned, along with spelled, spilled etc and am often berated for my use of them. Oh yeah I am in the UK.

Please, give me a link of ANY English dictionary that includes "learnt".

If they wanted to eliminate the confusion then change the spelling of the adjective, since the verb is used infintely more than the adjective.

Add the double "n" to the adjective (like how its actually pronounced) "Learnned"

Damn Brits, don't even know how to use their own damned language.

(j/k)

[johnnystorms]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Please, give me a link of ANY English dictionary that includes "learnt".

If they wanted to eliminate the confusion then change the spelling of the adjective, since the verb is used infintely more than the adjective.

Add the double "n" to the adjective (like how its actually pronounced) "Learnned"

Damn Brits, don't even know how to use their own damned language.

(j/k)

i would "of" instead of i would "have"!!!! GOD that drives me chicken-crazy!

[jellyman10]

^^^ I nitpick for a living (copy editor), am based in the UK, and, in line with the house styles of almost every British publisher, I would always try to dissuade a writer from using 'learnt'.* 'Learned' is much better.

* For US readers, including Chili, British punctuation convention is to place the closing quote before the full point when the quoted material is an incomplete sentence.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Something else interesting here -

Best of my knowledge, this is the first time Stevie's ever spelled out that her parents totally cut her off when she left school to "go become a big rock star" with Lindsey.
i.m.o. they were not pleased. I feel that maybe it's been vaguely hinted at before; but never spelled out so clearly.

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

She definitely romanticized that whole conversation, as I imagine she does a lot of things. Maybe not intentionally... but none the less, I think we can assume reality tends to get exaggerated / embellished / dramatized often.

Lindsey Buckingham, 1997-ish:

"She romanticizes her own romanticism."

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Please, give me a link of ANY English dictionary that includes "learnt".

If they wanted to eliminate the confusion then change the spelling of the adjective, since the verb is used infintely more than the adjective.

Add the double "n" to the adjective (like how its actually pronounced) "Learnned"

Damn Brits, don't even know how to use their own damned language.

(j/k)

"For what it's worth":

From m-w.com (Merriam-Webster's online dictionary) -

"Learnt: chiefly British past and past participle of 'learn.'"


Don't believe everything they teach you in High School.

Remember, some of these teachers are the same people trying to tell you that "irregardless" isn't a word. Trust me, it is.

P.S. - An old Funk & Wagnell's Dictionary I have confirms it - both "learnt" and "learned" are correct English.
Seriously, don't believe everything they teach you in High School.
They're just as human as anyone; and sometimes they're just plain wrong.

[michelej1]

The good thing about these unconventional spellings is that they are in the Scrabble Player's Dictionary and they can always earn you extra points against the opponent, if you are crafty.

Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Something else interesting here -

Best of my knowledge, this is the first time Stevie's ever spelled out that her parents totally cut her off when she left school to "go become a big rock star" with Lindsey.
i.m.o. they were not pleased. I feel that maybe it's been vaguely hinted at before; but never spelled out so clearly.

But they would lend a hand or plane ticket if she found herself stranded in Aspen, all the same.

Michele