A Very Simple Sales Question

[mezzoforte]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

If that were true, she'd release a new album every year. I don't know why people think she doesn't care about sales (and who cares what she says in interviews she says what she thinks the fans want to hear). Sales produce money and money funds her lifestyle. All those costume changes aren't cheap and can't be claimed on tax as she has dicovered!

I agree with the bolded. I don't think Stevie makes music simply for her fans, and I think she cares a great deal about sales. Not merely for money, though--she sees sales as artistic validation.
She must feel a bit deflated that IYD, her favorite of her solo albums, hasn't lit the world on fire. I can only hope that she enjoyed the experience enough to consider it worthwhile and be willing to do it all again.

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I know it may not even make bussiness sense but maybe loyalty.Fleetwood Mac once sold tens of millions of albums for them.That or the percieved value of their back catalouge.

I agree that the back catalogue is probably a factor, and loyalty may be as well. And really, a #6 album is nothing to sniff at. Stevie's probably one of their better selling artists, and Warner must appreciate having an artist with a built-in, fairly dependable fan base.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

If that were true, she'd release a new album every year. I don't know why people think she doesn't care about sales (and who cares what she says in interviews she says what she thinks the fans want to hear). Sales produce money and money funds her lifestyle. All those costume changes aren't cheap and can't be claimed on tax as she has dicovered!

Because she said she doesn't and if you pay attention you can easily tell that Nicks is nothing if honest (and perhaps overly blunt sometimes). This assertion that "she says what she thinks the fans want to hear" is BS. She doesn't need album sales, all of her money has been invested for years. She is, as she says "financially stable".

She hasn't had an album out every year because her management convinced her in 2005 that it wasn't worth it to put out new music. Since the making of this album was such a great experience, you can tell in interviews that she'd love to get back into the studio and do it again.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by tabruns

Because she said she doesn't and if you pay attention you can easily tell that Nicks is nothing if honest (and perhaps overly blunt sometimes).

Karen may be dead honest, but I wouldn't say that about Stevie.

Michele

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by chriskisn

If that were true, she'd release a new album every year. I don't know why people think she doesn't care about sales (and who cares what she says in interviews she says what she thinks the fans want to hear). Sales produce money and money funds her lifestyle. All those costume changes aren't cheap and can't be claimed on tax as she has dicovered!

Oh she totally cares about sales. That's why she doesn't put out albums back to back. She made comments in the past about it. However, I think Stevie is smart and has changed a little bit. She took a back seat to Rod Stewart and got some good cash. She is used to getting bad reviews and this album really has done well critically. She is going out on a good note and she likes the album. Stevie realizes her age. She is ending her career on good notes. Crystal Vision, Soundstage and In Your Dreams were all quality products. Very smart products.

P.S. The people who don't wanna believe that she cares about sales haven't been playing close attention.

[MrStevie]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Oh she totally cares about sales. That's why she doesn't put out albums back to back. She made comments in the past about it. However, I think Stevie is smart and has changed a little bit. She took a back seat to Rod Stewart and got some good cash. She is used to getting bad reviews and this album really has done well critically. She is going out on a good note and she likes the album. Stevie realizes her age. She is ending her career on good notes. Crystal Vision, Soundstage and In Your Dreams were all quality products. Very smart products.

P.S. The people who don't wanna believe that she cares about sales haven't been playing close attention.

This ^

[snicksfan85]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Your forgetting that ticket prices included a copy of the eagles album. Your right about elton and springsteen

Even if they gave an album with the tickets sold, those don't count toward the totals for certification. SoundScan/Billboard changed their policies after Prince included the price of a CD in the ticket price and "sold"over a million copies of Musicology. Albums only count toward sale counts if ticket buyers are given the choice at checkout now.

The Eagles had not only the length of time since dropping the previous studio album going for them but also the Wal-Mart machine behind it. Plus, there was some questionable practices since it was a retailer exclusive that was being sold at other retailers which may or may not have amounted to double sales. Then there was the last minute petition and rule change so that it would show up as #1 on the Billboard chart.

[LittleSpacey]

Why does the guy who originally began this post even care?? Move on.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by LittleSpacey

Why does the guy who originally began this post even care?? Move on.

He's a troll who has posted 3 or 4 of these threads in the last couple of months, trying to incite flame wars.

[LittleSpacey]

hahaha....haters can't help but hate.

[LittleSpacey]

....and isn't it funny how the haters still seem to know what Stevie says in all her interviews. I don't know about you, but I dont really watch/listen/read interviews by people who dont interest me. Jussayin. All love here.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by OooMissionary

First of all... Why are we still dwelling on Stevie Nicks: the Pop Star? Her days as the fairy pop ingenue are long gone... Stevie Nicks is an established 'singer-songwriter-legend'... The general populous is not clamoring for material from her beyond her 80s hits... New material is geared towards fans, and 'In Your Dreams' has found its way into this market. Same thing applies towards Springsteen & Elton John these days. The only way Stevie has a chance of getting a hit is on the Dance Charts... with a remix or specialty release (Part of me has always wanted Stevie to team up a dance producer and do an album of old and new compositions on a dance mix; and just release it without a tour).

Everything you said!

Some don't have a reasonable and practical grasp of the economics, the demographics, and the current culture as it pertains to older, established artists.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by LittleSpacey

Why does the guy who originally began this post even care?? Move on.

He should care more about his lack of articulation and writing skills. Horrid!

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by LittleSpacey

....and isn't it funny how the haters still seem to know what Stevie says in all her interviews. I don't know about you, but I dont really watch/listen/read interviews by people who dont interest me. Jussayin. All love here.

I don't know, when someone is part of a band I think you would read their interviews to gain more insight into the things they have been part of which do interest you, whether or not you are a fan.

If I was a Mick Jagger fan, I'd have to read Keith Richards' interviews, even if I didn't like him, because they might reveal something about Mick to me. Even if the things Keith said were untrue, the lies themselves would give me a peephole into the dynamic of a pairing that was so much a part of Mick's life that I couldn't ignore it, loathe Keith as a I might.

Even as it is, although I'm not a Mick Jagger or Keith Richards fan, I still found Keith's book a darn good read. I might not be interested in him, per se, but I'm interested in his rock background and the Rolling Stones' history.

Michele

[MrStevie]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't know, when someone is part of a band I think you would read their interviews to gain more insight into the things they have been part of which do interest you, whether or not you are a fan.

If I was a Mick Jagger fan, I'd have to read Keith Richards' interviews, even if I didn't like him, because they might reveal something about Mick to me. Even if the things Keith said were untrue, the lies themselves would give me a peephole into the dynamic of a pairing that was so much a part of Mick's life that I couldn't ignore it, loathe Keith as a I might.

Even as it is, although I'm not a Mick Jagger or Keith Richards fan, I still found Keith's book a darn good read. I might not be interested in him, per se, but I'm interested in his rock background and the Rolling Stones' history.

Michele

I do this too. It's part of being well read. I read a lot about people I'm not a fan of.

[chriskisn]

Originally Posted by tabruns

Because she said she doesn't and if you pay attention you can easily tell that Nicks is nothing if honest (and perhaps overly blunt sometimes). This assertion that "she says what she thinks the fans want to hear" is BS. She doesn't need album sales, all of her money has been invested for years. She is, as she says "financially stable".

In my opinion there is a great big divide between Stevie Nicks the character and Stevie Nicks the person. Sure as a person she cares about her fans, they have made her what she is, sure as a person she probably has unresolved issues regarding LB. However the character that Stevie plays is not really her. She isn't really a witch (well not as far as we know) she doesn't really dress like that all day (fans expect her to dress like her on-stage persona which she doesn't) and the whole Lindsey Buckingham thing has been used to sell albums and create a whole lot of those people who still believe they will/should get back together.