The Words Of Jonathan Todd - Page 9

seeknpeace · #**121** 05-23-2003, 08:06 AM

And as to Jonathan Todds Words, you all need to go and read Pips thread about the Email that was never meant to be read. More of his words. Note the headers with his emails...did one of his ppl get to his computer at midnite?

Livia · #**122** 06-11-2003, 09:50 AM

Alrighty then - so you know those fan club member "exclusive" t-shirts that JT was hawking, so we could "spot other fan club members at the shows?" I read over on Mick's board that the people who have ordered them are now being told that it will take 3-4 weeks before they are delivered. Obviously, some of those folks have either already gone to their shows, or won't have the t-shirts in time to wear them to an upcoming show.

Ooooh, it's never-ending.....

saradorna · #**123** 06-11-2003, 10:35 AM

You know I wanted to buy some T-****s...umm I meant T-Shirts(lol) from that website. The only option that it gave me to send them to me is from UPS and it would had cost me $15.00 MORE.

When I realized this I just cancelled everything and I'll wait untill my concert it will cost me less.

Isabel

gypsysara · #**124** 06-11-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by saradorna
When I realized this I just cancelled everything and I'll wait untill my concert it will cost me less.

Same thing with me.

Arent the "official" fan club shirts the black penguin ones?

Instead of FAN club... I want to make a shirt for the BAN CLUB!

OK-LANDSLIDE · #**125** 06-12-2003, 01:32 AM

I got my daughter and myself one off Ebay for 9.99. Same shirts as website I bought the maroon one and my daughter got the blue one. I would not wear a Fan Club Shirt on my back. I mean no disrespect for band when I say that.......JT's whom will not profit another dime from me. Plus I'm really a little embarrassed to let strangers know that I was a sucker. OK-LANDSLIDE

highpriestess53 · #**126** 06-16-2003, 07:39 AM

NEWSPAPER PRINT!!

If you all feel inclined to contact the press about any of this go to the the thread 'NEWS CONTACTS FOR THE WORLD'

Tango · #**127** 07-09-2003, 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by OK-LANDSLIDE
I got my daughter and myself one off Ebay for 9.99. Same shirts as website I bought the maroon one and my daughter got the blue one. I would not wear a Fan Club Shirt on my back. I mean no disrespect for band when I say that.......JT's whom will not profit another dime from me. Plus I'm really a little embarrassed to let strangers know that I was a sucker. OK-LANDSLIDE

You know OK, I was just thinking about what you said in conjunction with the latest fan club email I got. Mr. Todd alledged "entered" all us fan club members in a contest to win an autographed "something or other" (geeze, and here I was hoping to win some of that fabulous JUNK Egyptian jewelry) . . . and then he POSTED the winners "real name" and state in his "copywritten" email. Hey, if you were embarassed to be seen in a "fan club shirt", imagine how you'll feel if this SCHMOO posts your name publicly without your permission. Too bad he can't be more PUBLIC about the questions we have always wanted answered. Just another example of what a loser Todd is. I know I NEVER agreed to be entered in the contest and certainly would NEVER allow that weasel to post MY name "as if" I was endorsing ANY of his club capers. Instead, he totally resists our desires to succeed from "the union."

First a contest to say "how HAPPY" you are with the fan club, and now he wants to PUBLICLY show who is in the fan club. Hey TODD, why not tell us how many of us "losers" are really IN it?

Tango · #**128** 07-31-2003, 08:55 AM

This was posted by Mr. Todd on Mick's board today. Mind you, we have ALL told him the first presale TIME was incorrect and he ignored us. We ALL told him the password system was failed, because he was using our "user name" rather than our "password" that WE picked and could control to get into the ticket system. We ALL told him the ticket selection we were getting SUCKED, and we were getting lousy seats. He told us WE were ALL wrong, that WE are just "unhappy people" and lousy fans. Why did he IGNORE all the emails and phone calls?

He posted this today:

"We're REALLY working this problem, everyone. I wanted to reply to Michelle's statement, above. In the Club presales ALL our block of 600+ tickets (in some states like NY way more than 600 so we can serve the membership) are instantly available at the moment Ticketmaster opens. The reason some members don't see great seats "right at the bell" is that if you have 400 members all come on at 9:00 am and grab 4 seats each that's a hold for a couple of minutes on 1600 seats - ALL of our 600 seats plus selected other seats throughout the venue. As these people wait too long, buy two and let two they were holding go, you start to see the floor Club seats back in the inventory.

In PUBLIC sales Ticketmaster may release great seats later in the game, but that's usually because holds from management for the press or others are released as they realize they don't need all they have on hold. Believe me - We're watching like hawks and making sure our Club members have access to the WHOLE block we've reserved. A short term problem is that the person getting all these front row seats IS a Club member and is entitled to buy them - IF HE/SHE PLAYS FAIR. We've ruled "luck" out. Now it is a matter of stopping the gap he/she has found. As I said in my earlier post in this thread - we're researching how this is happening.

I am hopping mad over this! One way or another I promise you all that we'll stop this before the next presale (hint - we think there is at least one more city on the way for the US but don't have total confirmation - stay tuned!) If I don't have a fix by then, I'll have all the first, second, third, fourth and fifth row seats pulled and we'll have Club members who want them send an email for a lottery just before the presale. Winners will be legit and everyone else gets 6th through 30th on the floor or whatever else is allocated along with that for the Club. We can control the entire system that way and keep the random luck to honest members. Seems a shame that we may have to do it this way - its a messload of work for our staff - but we will have FAIR presales for our members!

The Knight!"

WHAT is this man's problem? Tom Petty's management runs their fan club (the same people that manage Lindsey) and they NEVER had the problems that the "official Fleetwood Mac" fan club has had . . . for FAR less money. And now HE'S "hopping mad?" At the END of the first leg of a major tour he's just getting a CLUE as to how screwed up this is? He has NEVER listened. He's blocked and banned and offended the people that PAID him. Imagine going to a store and complaining about the service and being "banned" from ever coming into the store again. No refund . . . in fact he FOUGHT any refunds. We have fan club members that NEVER got any tickets, we have fan club memers got tickets way in the back of the venue. He NEVER did anything to make up for the first pre-sale, and continues to say there was no system failure, only minor glitches that they fixed. "Your tickets are SAFE."

How long, how long will he be representing Fleetwood Mac? WHY didn't they ever tell us where the fan ticket seats were? Why couldn't they just be up front about everything? Why didn't they just sell the tickets from the Official Fleetwood Mac site if they had the power to do that?

seeknpeace · #**129** 07-31-2003, 09:37 AM

Okay, this is being drug out and I have been patient and my patience is almost gone.

There was a group of ppl who contacted me regarding a class action law suit and I need to hear from you again please, or any other group that is working on that. I have my source, so I think that we have been patient long enough. The whole tour and information about that tour is almost over and we have gotten much less for our money than the free fan clubs get.

CarneVaca · #**130** 07-31-2003, 09:40 AM

Tango, why would even try again in light of previous problems?

Take advantage of me once, shame on you. Take advantage of me twice, shame on me.

Time to move on.

seeknpeace · #**131** 07-31-2003, 09:46 AM

Time to move on.

Don't agree there at all. I have been quiet for a reason. That reason is about to end, so this is going into the next stage. Many have and will move on, but, this man has divided our community, ruined many of our tour experiences, has robbed us, lied to us, cheated us and so it is not over for a whole, great big lot of us. Not by a long shot.

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #**132** 07-31-2003, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
Time to move on.

Don't agree there at all. I have been quiet for a reason. That reason is about to end, so this is going into the next stage. Many have and will move on, but, this man has divided our community, ruined many of our tour experiences, has robbed us, lied to us, cheated us and so it is not over for a whole, great big lot of us. Not by a long shot.

I agree with you totally. I can't believe he is still spouting such rubbish!

CarneVaca · #**133** 07-31-2003, 09:51 AM

Let me just reiterate, and then I'm done with this:

Take advantage of me once, shame on you. Take advantage of me twice, shame on me.

It's an old proverb.

seeknpeace · #**134** 07-31-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by CarneVaca
Let me just reiterate, and then I'm done with this:

Take advantage of me once, shame on you. Take advantage of me twice, shame on me.

It's an old proverb.

And, I agree with that proverb totally, but, this is not about me.

This is about all the others out there who are fans and are being deceived everyday, this is about his intentions of hooking up with other bands, as he said in a recent article, touting his "success" with the FM Fan Club, and starting their fan clubs and doing this to other ppl. It may not be like taking your grand mothers money to roof her house and doing a sloppy job, but, it is the same principle. People are still joining the club, unsuspecting, some first time fans made during this tour, etc. He is laughing at us all. He is running the show, running the management, running the band and thumbing his nose at us. That does not sit well with me personally. That part is about me.

CarneVaca · #**135** 07-31-2003, 10:05 AM

Seeknpeace, you ought to consider changing your handle.