An Emotional Life- Divorce, Emotions, and Past Relationships- A Mini Vent By: Ethan

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by LiamMcConville

I am not Ethan's biggest fan, trust.


But: WHO THE FUKC DO YOU THREE THINK YOU ARE?

The other posters complaining about Ethan have been posting on this board before ANY of you even knew a song by Fleetwood Mac. They've tolerated him for MUCH longer than any of you have.

Lucy - you've been posting on this board for less than EIGHT MONTHS. You're a ****ing joke.

Shawna - same to you. You and Lucy should be absolutely ****ing crestfallen that you can turn something this emotionally honest into a personal joke.

Marina - Who the are you to say that Ethan's parent's divorce isn't a "real" problem? He may handle his emotions poorly, but this issue is as legitimate as any.

The weight of an individual's problem is determined by their ability to cope, not another's assessment.

Here's an article written by an American psychologist discussing his experiences with language barriers. Maybe some of this is being lost in translation for you.

http://shrinktalk.net/?p=368


Bottom line: Does Ethan handle himself poorly? ABSOLUTELY. But you three should be ASHAMED for your blatant shamelessness, insensitivity and intolerance.

Who the "FUKC" do I think I am?
I guess I'm insensitive. I've been through a HELL of a life. When I say hell I mean it. Sorry if I'm not compassionate about girl problems and divorce.

Once Ethan tries growing up experiencing emotional abuse, watching physical abuse, going through a life threatening illness and almost dying as a result (twice), being told you are a mistake, and various loads of other bull**** that I don't think is APPROPRIATE TO SHARE WITH STRANGERS ON AN INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD....only after he goes through this, will I give him an ounce of sympathy.

I'm not out for sympathy and attention. Unlike some other veteran posters.

If you'll excuse me, I'll go be "crestfallen".
not.

[Black_Moon]

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

Who the "FUKC" do I think I am?
I guess I'm insensitive. I've been through a HELL of a life. When I say hell I mean it. Sorry if I'm not compassionate about girl problems and divorce.

Once Ethan tries growing up experiencing emotional abuse, watching physical abuse, going through a life threatening illness and almost dying as a result (twice), being told you are a mistake, and various loads of other bull**** that I don't think is APPROPRIATE TO SHARE WITH STRANGERS ON AN INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD....only after he goes through this, will I give him an ounce of sympathy.

I'm not out for sympathy and attention. Unlike some other veteran posters.

If you'll excuse me, I'll go be "crestfallen".
not.

And for this very reason, I am not remotely ashamed at my "shamelessness" - although how I could be crestfallen because of this I'll never know when according to what you've said I'm basically evil - "intolerance and insensitivity". There's no reason for me to have any compassion for Ethan, considering he's more of a drama queen than any 13 year old girl could hope to be.

Also, I'm pretty sure Shawna and Marina are older than you. Which means, your patronising manner is completely pointless. You're actually going through your mid-life crisis about 35 years early, congratulations!

[marinnette]

this is my last post in this thread. even if i'm called names, insulted or whatever, i won't take a part in this nonsense anymore. the remedy is being worse than the problem itself, and i think we are cooperating with something i find obscure an boring as egocentrism (it is ok when someone is the sh*t, like an artist or something).

i already said what i think and i want to spend the rest of my time on this board discussing interesting stuff, like the FM, LB, SN or enjoying the chit chat as a way to get to meet nice people, because I am sure most of the users are worth to be known. and i am saying this from the experience.

so if anybody wants to get more attention, i suggest they might start a personal board, or a blog or whatever. this way, there won't be any reason to criticize any self-centered attitude.

i hope u all are happy. i am, maybe my existence is not perfect, but i try to be in the right path. that's the most important thing, to be contented with the way u act and let the others be in peace

[HejiraNYC]

From my impartial, objective take on this ****storm of a thread, I have concluded that everyone is missing the point. I don't think Ethan is intentionally whining about his parents divorcing or some chick ignorning him in an effort to evoke pity. I think what he is really trying to communicate (albeit not very articulately or concisely) is his fear of becoming emotionally dead inside, i.e., building up an emotional barrier and becoming distant from people in his life. It wasn't a pleasant read by any means, but I suppose he has a right, as a young adult, to share his story and then ask the world what this all means. Since he obviously does not have any close confidents that he feels comfortable sharing such intimate knowledge with, he probably felt comforted by the anonymity of the Ledge and hoped to compare notes with others who may have been in his situation. Obviously it didn't pan out as expected! I don't think it was a competition over who has it rougher, nor was it a blatant attempt to evince sympathy or a cry for help. Admittedly he has engaged in rather narcisstic and/or annoying posting behavior in the past, but I don't think this is one of those episodes to get riled up about. If anything I think Ethan's biggest fault here was simply not being able to express himself well.

If nobody had anything constructive to say, I think this thread should have died a quick, painless death on its own. The personal attacks were unnecessary.

[Musicman408]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

From my impartial, objective take on this ****storm of a thread, I have concluded that everyone is missing the point. I don't think Ethan is intentionally whining about his parents divorcing or some chick ignorning him in an effort to evoke pity. I think what he is really trying to communicate (albeit not very articulately or concisely) is his fear of becoming emotionally dead inside, i.e., building up an emotional barrier and becoming distant from people in his life. It wasn't a pleasant read by any means, but I suppose he has a right, as a young adult, to share his story and then ask the world what this all means. Since he obviously does not have any close confidents that he feels comfortable sharing such intimate knowledge with, he probably felt comforted by the anonymity of the Ledge and hoped to compare notes with others who may have been in his situation. Obviously it didn't pan out as expected! I don't think it was a competition over who has it rougher, nor was it a blatant attempt to evince sympathy or a cry for help. Admittedly he has engaged in rather narcisstic and/or annoying posting behavior in the past, but I don't think this is one of those episodes to get riled up about. If anything I think Ethan's biggest fault here was simply not being able to express himself well.

If nobody had anything constructive to say, I think this thread should have died a quick, painless death on its own. The personal attacks were unnecessary.

Ladies and gentleman, we have a winner.

Please contact guest services.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

Who the "FUKC" do I think I am?
I guess I'm insensitive. I've been through a HELL of a life. When I say hell I mean it. Sorry if I'm not compassionate about girl problems and divorce.

Once Ethan tries growing up experiencing emotional abuse, watching physical abuse, going through a life threatening illness and almost dying as a result (twice), being told you are a mistake, and various loads of other bull**** that I don't think is APPROPRIATE TO SHARE WITH STRANGERS ON AN INTERNET MESSAGEBOARD....only after he goes through this, will I give him an ounce of sympathy.

I'm not out for sympathy and attention. Unlike some other veteran posters.

If you'll excuse me, I'll go be "crestfallen".
not.

i find this rhetoric difficult to swallow.

i don't know you or your story. i want to make it clear that i'm not defending ethan, i'm just interested in addressing a broader issue you brought up.

in this situation you could justify being unsympathetic for a number of reasons. you could say ethan's irritating, or that he posts the same thing over and over again, or that he's fishing for attention. any of those would be defensible. but to turn it into a pissing contest about whose life is more difficult is silly and it makes you look petulant. that's the irony of indulging in this kind of oneupsmanship.

i have no reason to doubt that you've been through hell, but your experience is not the official standard unit of suffering, and to say that the only people who get your sympathy are those who have had it just as bad or worse than you've had it is just goofy.

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by carrie721

i find this rhetoric difficult to swallow.

i don't know you or your story. i want to make it clear that i'm not defending ethan, i'm just interested in addressing a broader issue you brought up.

in this situation you could justify being unsympathetic for a number of reasons. you could say ethan's irritating, or that he posts the same thing over and over again, or that he's fishing for attention. any of those would be defensible. but to turn it into a pissing contest about whose life is more difficult is silly and it makes you look petulant. that's the irony of indulging in this kind of oneupsmanship.

i have no reason to doubt that you've been through hell, but your experience is not the official standard unit of suffering, and to say that the only people who get your sympathy are those who have had it just as bad or worse than you've had it is just goofy.

I didn't mean to one up. I want no sympathy. I'd rather be hated than pitied.
there are always people who have it worse, but in my case...Ethan is not one of them.

I give sympathy to those who deserve it and don't go fishing for it on message boards.

[jannieC]

*Tap tap tap...is this thing on....?*


Am I in invisibity mode?

[golddustdrummer]

Originally Posted by jannieC

*Tap tap tap...is this thing on....?*


Am I in invisibity mode?

no, you're not.
I'm done with this thread.

[HomerMcvie]

I just can't believe, the TURMOIL he brings to this board, time after time after time after time, yet that turmoil is perfectly accepted. It truly boggles my mind. It's unbelievable.
I think JS's initial stance on protecting him, is much akin to Bush's stand on Iraq. There's no way he'll ever admit that he was wrong. No matter what.
Just my two cents...

[sara1998]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I just can't believe, the TURMOIL he brings to this board, time after time after time after time, yet that turmoil is perfectly accepted. It truly boggles my mind. It's unbelievable.
I think JS's initial stance on protecting him, is much akin to Bush's stand on Iraq. There's no way he'll ever admit that he was wrong. No matter what.
Just my two cents...

BANT......

[Stew_Matthews]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I just can't believe, the TURMOIL he brings to this board, time after time after time after time, yet that turmoil is perfectly accepted. It truly boggles my mind. It's unbelievable.
I think JS's initial stance on protecting him, is much akin to Bush's stand on Iraq. There's no way he'll ever admit that he was wrong. No matter what.
Just my two cents...

I think your two cents are worth more than most peoples..........

The turmoil to some extent passes me by cos I don't read his threads.......unless I see there are over a hundred replies - then I'm as curious as other people. What is frustrating is that there is no obvious attempt to moderate or control what he posts. I'm all for people posting some rubbish, I do myself on occasion. But seriously, there has to be a limit on the number of self indulgent threads that one member creates and when it is exceeded, the threads should be deleted in my view.

[jannieC]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I just can't believe, the TURMOIL he brings to this board, time after time after time after time, yet that turmoil is perfectly accepted. It truly boggles my mind. It's unbelievable.
I think JS's initial stance on protecting him, is much akin to Bush's stand on Iraq. There's no way he'll ever admit that he was wrong. No matter what.
Just my two cents...

Ethan has been gone from this thread (as is the usual MO) long enough for everyone to stop bickering about it. Ethan is not creating the turmoil anymore, everyone else is. It amazes me (still) how Ethan can bring people out of the woodwork and that people really are calling each other names,as well as being judgmental and rude to one another based on this thread. I really didn't mind people telling Ethan how silly his story was. When you put your personal business up on a public message board, you're fair game. But the fact that now members are attacking EACH OTHER over it...this thread is getting tiresome.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by golddustdrummer

no, you're not.
I'm done with this thread.

me too, it's soooo last year~