New FM documentary on BBC

[Rumour0323]

Originally Posted by BellaDonna93

Ok, this made me cry now, Stevie saying:

"I've never been to Lindsey's house, and I probably never will go to Lindsey's house,Lindsey's been here once...maybe down the line in 10 or 15 years when Lindsey and I are 75 we'll be friends again, when Fleetwood Mac is a distance memory..."

That made me sad...Fleetwood Mac only a distance memory...

She went on to say something after that about ....After his kids are older, after they are grown and gone. I thought that was a little strange.

Basically what I took away from this Doc is that they are lying, they have been lying FOREVER. They can't tell you the really real story for whatever reason. Sorry, by "they" I mean Stevie and Lindsey. So they just keep regurgiatating the same ole stories. She lashes out and he sits there like a lump of coal, taking the higher road? Eh whatever. I think he was a real pain in the ass when they were younger, listen to how Ken Calliatt talks about him, I don't think Lindsey was a particularly fun guy to be around. Stevie alluded to it last night with the comment about their relationship becoming too dark, too obsessive. She needed air and light..etc.

Bottom line for me is they were madly in love, obsessed with each other but it was not a healthy relationship and so it ended. I think they never got over each other, he managed to break away from the group as a whole and carve out some semblance of a normal life, found a woman who could tolerate/manage him, have three beautiful children....and Stevie sees the man she'd always hoped he would become, with another woman, and personally I think it pisses her off. Remember her "Oh Stevie you made a mistake comment?" Whatev's.

I'm just tired of the media lumping the Stevie and Lindsey soap opera saga, into every doc done about the band. I wanted to hear more about John, lets see Julie and Molly, let's see Lynn and the twins. How is Mick's daughter doing after the near drowning. But I suppose that is really not "about" Fleetwood Mac. So we are left with endless tales of the same sad story. One more gripe before I crawl back into my hole. It's great how they can get up there and make fun of Lindsey for his bathroom antics and endless takes....we all know he is a crazy genius. Roll your eyes and say take three hundred, but if it weren't for that musical genius, most of us would never have heard of FM at least on this side of the pond.

Sorry kids I'm grumpy today.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by Rumour0323

She went on to say something after that about ....After his kids are older, after they are grown and gone. I thought that was a little strange.

I thought that was strange too. As if... part of the reason she hasn't visited is because his kids are there (which strikes me as GOOD reason to visit).

[StreetAngel86]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

I thought that was strange too. As if... part of the reason she hasn't visited is because his kids are there (which strikes me as GOOD reason to visit).

or more like there is a reason [read: wife] STOPPING her

Originally Posted by gypsysoul

I thought that was a very telling comment from her. It would not surprise me if she believes that once the children are older, she and he will live out their lives together as they were 'meant to do' but couldn't manage in the usual way.
Equally, who's to say they won't????/

so this time period should roll around in about 20 years...
when they're finally together
is this when one of them dies, leaving the other one alone ON {in} THE BED?

Mama is quite Prophetic...

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Originally Posted by Rumour0323

She went on to say something after that about ....After his kids are older, after they are grown and gone. I thought that was a little strange.

I was actually very surprised by the comment just because, where I come from at least, when you say something like it it suggests that you might be sort of waiting in the wings for something to happen...like once his kids are grown and out of the house and his responsibility their direct care ends, there will be an opportunity for their relationship to change. My question is, how exactly does she expect the relationship to change?

[gypsysoul]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

I was actually very surprised by the comment just because, where I come from at least, when you say something like it it suggests that you might be sort of waiting in the wings for something to happen...like once his kids are grown and out of the house and his responsibility their direct care ends, there will be an opportunity for their relationship to change. My question is, how exactly does she expect the relationship to change?

I thought that was a very telling comment from her. It would not surprise me if she believes that once the children are older, she and he will live out their lives together as they were 'meant to do' but couldn't manage in the usual way.
Equally, who's to say they won't????/

Also, I think the doc was a great prmotion for the band. I'vehad several people talk to me about it who hadn't followed the band since Tango in the night. So, good or lightweight, it did the group a lot of good to be remembered for an audience that doesn't follow fan forums but likes them.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Originally Posted by gypsysoul

I thought that was a very telling comment from her.

Thats exactly what I thought the second she said it. I don't know exactly what she meant by it though...but it is obvious that she's got something particular in mind.

I do have a question though. The narration says that Christine was the "female songwriter reluctant to front the band." Are there any quotes from her or anyone else in FM that support this? I would be interested to know if that were true and, if so, why she was reluctant to be the face of FM as it were at that time?

[MacMan]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

Thats exactly what I thought the second she said it. I don't know exactly what she meant by it though...but it is obvious that she's got something particular in mind.

I do have a question though. The narration says that Christine was the "female songwriter reluctant to front the band." Are there any quotes from her or anyone else in FM that support this? I would be interested to know if that were true and, if so, why she was reluctant to be the face of FM as it were at that time?

Stevie's said it numerous times that Christine never wanted to be the one up front... I think even Christine has said it in interviews that she considered herself more a part of the rhythm section then the upfront person...

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Originally Posted by MacMan

Stevie's said it numerous times that Christine never wanted to be the one up front... I think even Christine has said it in interviews that she considered herself more a part of the rhythm section then the upfront person...

I guess I always just took that to mean that she wouldn't have wanted to front Fleetwood Mac as it became after Stevie and Lindsey joined and they all became super famous. In my mind, when imagining what it must have been like before Stevie & Lindsey, I always thought a bluesy FM fronted by Christine...maybe not literally out front as Stevie and Lindsey did...but just there to the side with her keyboard would have made a pretty great show. It would have been a perfect setup for smaller venues with smaller stages. I definitely would have paid to see it!

[David]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

I always thought a bluesy FM fronted by Christine...maybe not literally out front as Stevie and Lindsey did...but just there to the side with her keyboard would have made a pretty great show. It would have been a perfect setup for smaller venues with smaller stages. I definitely would have paid to see it!

That would have been nice, really cool. But I remember Christine saying in print interviews during her 1984 solo tour that she preferred not to be the star of the show or to sing lead on every song.

She seems to prefer being part of a group with multiple leads.

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

I was actually very surprised by the comment just because, where I come from at least, when you say something like it it suggests that you might be sort of waiting in the wings for something to happen...like once his kids are grown and out of the house and his responsibility their direct care ends, there will be an opportunity for their relationship to change. My question is, how exactly does she expect the relationship to change?

I personally think that the kids have helped her keep her emotional distance. Believe what you want about their relationship during The Dance tour, but I still think there are some loose strings hanging around between those two and they (or, at least, Stevie) doesn't want to tie them just yet.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

I personally think that the kids have helped her keep her emotional distance. Believe what you want about their relationship during The Dance tour, but I still think there are some loose strings hanging around between those two and they (or, at least, Stevie) doesn't want to tie them just yet.

She sure loves bringing up his kids. I don't think there's as much emotional distance there as she would lead us to believe.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

I think I see what Dani is saying. Stevie's affection for his kids could help her keep her emotional distance from him. I think its a really good interpretation of the situation that I hadn't given much thought to in terms of the comment she made...makes a lot of sense.

And as far as The Dance goes...I think there was a lot more than loose strings going on

[daniellaaarisen]

Originally Posted by GypsyBlueEyes

I think I see what Dani is saying. Stevie's affection for his kids could help her keep her emotional distance from him. I think its a really good interpretation of the situation that I hadn't given much thought to in terms of the comment she made...makes a lot of sense.

And as far as The Dance goes...I think there was a lot more than loose strings going on

Agreed, completely. But when you think of her entire "when he had his first child, I knew we were done" comment, it just totally makes sense. I think she's trying to be a respectable, "ladylike" woman and save his kids from the emotional drama in which would be her open pursuit of their married father.

This band truly is one huge soap opera.

[michelej1]

So, when the kids are grown, Stevie might step in and kick Kristen to the curb. She'll be 73 by then and he'll be 72. I hope she still has it and that Lindsey still remembers what to do with it.

Michele

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen

Agreed, completely. But when you think of her entire "when he had his first child, I knew we were done" comment, it just totally makes sense. I think she's trying to be a respectable, "ladylike" woman and save his kids from the emotional drama in which would be her open pursuit of their married father.

This band truly is one huge soap opera.

It is a soap opera, indeed. One they created.

So, let's think about her statement. When Will was born she knew "it" was over... not when Lindsey was dating Kristen, or became serious with her (remember the backstage comment she made to a fan how Lindsey was practically married), not the day she found out Kristen was pregnant or even the other nine months of said pregnancy...but the day Will was born.

My, my, my...

Oh, and Joe Walsh is the love of her life.

Originally Posted by michelej1

So, when the kids are grown, Stevie might step in and kick Kristen to the curb. She'll be 73 by then and he'll be 72. I hope she still has it and that Lindsey still remembers what to do with it.

Michele