*Spoiler* on upcoming Tour

[seekerj]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

here is the Tusk Tour version of "Sara" where you can distinctly see Christine playing the piano intro, and Lindsey plays electric guitars throughout the song- no acoustic guitar at all.



I think it would be practically impossible to recreate the "Sara" wall of sound live- there's a lot of studio effects and overdubs on that. Although it seems that on Soundstage Sessions it seems that Sharon, Lori and Jana tried to recreate the "ooh" harmonies that kind of wash in and out of the studio version very subtly.

I wasn't talking about Lindsey playing the acoustic, I know he was playing the electric.... but wasn't the acoustic guitar played by Ray Lindsay who usually stood in the back? Somebody is definitiely palying an acoustic guitar on that St Louis show. Am I really the only one who hears this guitar on the St Louis boot??

Chili D, I hear the piano, but I really do hear the guitar on the studio version, I am not trying to be difficult! I even used software to amplify the intro to make sure. Also, for some reason I hear it more on the version that's on "The Chain" boxset than on any version that has come out since.

But I guess I need to be willing to admit that maybe I'm hearing things!

In any case, that keyboard that they use these days for the intro is really hard on my ears.

I just really haven't enjoyed a live version of Sara since the Mirage tour, with the "Bella Donna/Wild Heart/(some of the) Rock A Little tour" version being the absolute worst for me.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by seekerj

I wasn't talking about Lindsey playing the acoustic, I know he was playing the electric.... but wasn't the acoustic guitar played by Ray Lindsay who usually stood in the back? Somebody is definitiely palying an acoustic guitar on that St Louis show. Am I really the only one who hears this guitar on the St Louis boot??

Chili D, I hear the piano, but I really do hear the guitar on the studio version, I am not trying to be difficult! I even used software to amplify the intro to make sure. Also, for some reason I hear it more on the version that's on "The Chain" boxset than on any version that has come out since.

But I guess I need to be willing to admit that maybe I'm hearing things!

In any case, that keyboard that they use these days for the intro is really hard on my ears.

I thought Ray Lindsay only played on "Go Your Own Way." Perhaps you are thinking about the "Cleaning Lady" version of "Sara" that appears on the expanded Tusk reissue? That one definitely starts out with strumming acoustic guitars.

Agreed - the recent live keyboard sound is ass. I am actually rather fond of the keyboard sound from the WWD HBO special- where the piano intro is doubled by a synth.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by seekerj

I just really haven't enjoyed a live version of Sara since the Mirage tour, with the "Bella Donna/Wild Heart/(some of the) Rock A Little tour" version being the absolute worst for me.

I haven't really enjoyed one since the Tusk tour, TBQH. And even those - I dunno. I much prefer the album versions. I don't think it translates well live. It always seems that they are rushing through it. The recent Soundstage version wasn't bad musically but I hated Stevie's vocal - too loud, too shouty, not soft & sexy. Meh.

Not to go off-topic, but I don't usually like Gypsy live either. So much better on the album. With the notable exception of the acoustic AHI version.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by skcin

I haven't really enjoyed one since the Tusk tour, TBQH. And even those - I dunno. I much prefer the album versions. I don't think it translates well live. It always seems that they are rushing through it. The recent Soundstage version wasn't bad musically but I hated Stevie's vocal - too loud, too shouty, not soft & sexy. Meh.

Not to go off-topic, but I don't usually like Gypsy live either. So much better on the album. With the notable exception of the acoustic AHI version.

I have to agree. I love hearing Sara live but it does sound rushed, doesn't it? Especially when they did it on the SYW tour and Stevie's vocals are WAY too loud. The recorded version has a subtle, underlying power that is completely stripped from the stage version.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by wheart

I have to agree. I love hearing Sara live but it does sound rushed, doesn't it? Especially when they did it on the SYW tour and Stevie's vocals are WAY too loud. The recorded version has a subtle, underlying power that is completely stripped from the stage version.

Exactly. Which is why, even though I want to hear it badly, I am nervous about Storms.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by skcin

Exactly. Which is why, even though I want to hear it badly, I am nervous about Storms.

Well, I had my misgivings about "Beautiful Child" when that was first announced, but lo and behold, she managed to pull it off despite belting out the song at full throttle. I have a feeling that "Storms" is going to be given the full band arrangement, which should be more forgiving of Stevie's belting.

[Janet]

I think being by herself versus being with Fleetwood Mac, Stevie sings differently. She tones it down a bit when she's with them because she's got the other super egos with her lol.

I am so excited for this tour. Sara was great the last tour just because it was such a gem from so long ago, but anything they do I will love.

I agree about Gypsy, I never liked it live, not even for Mirage. It just loses something. But I'll be happy with any song they do!!! Can't wait!!!

[wheart]

Originally Posted by skcin

Exactly. Which is why, even though I want to hear it badly, I am nervous about Storms.

I am too! When I saw it may be done this time around, I started "hearing" it in my head as it may be sung...

[shackin'up]

I think she'll nail storms like she nailed Beautiful Child 5 years ago.

[jmn3]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

I think she'll nail storms like she nailed Beautiful Child 5 years ago.

I hope you are right...I'm listening to Storms right now and thinking that if she nails the vocals on it, it really will be something great to hear live. On the other hand, the whole song could very easily be ruined if she can't quite get the vocal down. It's one of those that could easily be the hit of the tour or be dropped after one show!

[gypsydreamer]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

I think she'll nail storms like she nailed Beautiful Child 5 years ago.

I think so too! I can't wait to hear it and I hope she sings Beautiful Child too!! I love thoes songs. And I would love to hear Angel live...wow I'd be in heaven!!

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

I think she'll nail storms like she nailed Beautiful Child 5 years ago.

stevie's a pedophile?

[David]

Originally Posted by seekerj

I wasn't talking about Lindsey playing the acoustic, I know he was playing the electric.... but wasn't the acoustic guitar played by Ray Lindsay who usually stood in the back? Somebody is definitiely palying an acoustic guitar on that St Louis show. Am I really the only one who hears this guitar on the St Louis boot??

that's Lindsey on the Turner during the piano intro. You can hear him hit a few notes. It may sound like an acoustic but it's the Turner. The other thing is that the upright piano Chris used is tampered with so that several of the strings thung more loosely against the iron frame or the soundboard, which can sound like guitar strings against a fretboard.

In any case, that keyboard that they use these days for the intro is really hard on my ears.

You mean solo or Mac? I played the SARA YouTube from Soundstage & thought it sounded rinky-tinky.

I just really haven't enjoyed a live version of Sara since the Mirage tour

After that, things started going to hell.