What is avant-pop? (Tusk/LB mention)

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by face of glass

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Your turn, Gerald!

I don't have much time giving this real thought,

But for me some more recent work comes to mind

Elliott Brood - Ambassador, 2005 Open yet dark folky countrypop, so simple it blows your head off.

dEUS-Worst Case Scenario, 1994 shoves Beck under the carpet.

On edit: I guess Dinosaur Jr's Where you been, should be here too. Maybe something by Jon Spencer Bluesexplosion?

And Royal Trux selftitled album from 1992. Wikepedia: the band explored every inch of the rock-and-roll cliché from sub-underground nihilism to major-label biz for hire, without abandoning their unique romanticism and artistic integrity. Well, maybe they were just bad.

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Elliott Brood - Ambassador, 2005 Open yet dark folky countrypop, so simple it blows your head off.

I have the two songs you posted off this a while ago (The Bridge and Only At Home) and I love them both so I'm going to have to get the album pretty soon. It's great stuff.

[TrueFaith77]

An attempt to see if I get this. Here are some albums which strike me as "avant-pop" (and they're all great):

Al Green, The Belle Album (1977)

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Meets King Pennet (1978)

Chic, Risque (1979)

Elvis Costello, Get Happy!! (1980)

Au Pairs, Playing With a Different Sex (1981)

The Clash, Sandinista! (1981)

Associates, Sulk (1982)

Prince, 1999 (1982)

Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet (1990)

Son of Bazerk, Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk (1991)

De La Soul, De La Soul Is Dead (1991)

Scritti Politti, White Bread Black Beer (2006)



Do these count or are these experiments more 'avant':

David Byrne (and Brian Eno), The Catherine Wheel (1981)

Pet Shop Boys, Battleship Potemkin (2005)

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Associates, Sulk (1982)

Njood spoons EUPHORIA!!

That's a great one, shouldn't have forgotten it.

But no New Order? Your faith certainly isn't true.

PS to Gerald: The day you'll actually list something mainly machine-driven, that's the day I'll eat my shorts.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by face of glass

Njood spoons EUPHORIA!!

That's a great one, shouldn't have forgotten it.

But no New Order? Your faith certainly isn't true.

PS to Gerald: The day you'll actually list something mainly machine-driven, that's the day I'll eat my shorts.

Well... which album would best represent this avant-pop cred of New Order? I suppose Substance with its extended mixes and disc-2 remixes/b-sides displays this, plus that's kind of an interesting way to collect an artist's work, so even it's format is "avant-pop." And, yes, it contains the greatest song of all time. But really all New Order albums are avant-pop, no? But what about the first Electronic album? That should be on there too (though I prefer the last two Electronic albums -- all three mighty -- but they strike me as less "avant-pop").

[TrueFaith77]

Oh and Face of Glass. . . I love Hats by Blue Nile. That's my favorite make-out album!

[face of glass]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

But what about the first Electronic album? That should be on there too (though I prefer the last two Electronic albums -- all three mighty -- but they strike me as less "avant-pop").

Probably, although Johnny and Bernard first had a more experimental direction in mind (as evidenced by the b-side Lucky Bag). But yes, an oboe interlude in the midst of electronics can't certainly be forgotten.

[Wild_Heart03]

Originally Posted by face of glass

But yes, an oboe interlude in the midst of electronics can't certainly be forgotten.

Ohhhh man, the last minute of "Some Distant Memory" is the best part of the song. That oboe/synth-string arrangement is gorgeous.

But I digress....

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by face of glass

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PS to Gerald: The day you'll actually list something mainly machine-driven, that's the day I'll eat my shorts.

OK, I'm not touched by 99.9% of all electronic music.
But, I said kate bush's the dreaming was a fave of mine. Lindsey's Go insane could/should be on this list. (although Law and Order would be the first LB-album to match the criteria).

And the Model by Kraftwerk.


You're alowed to eat a clean pair.

[David]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

An attempt to see if I get this. Here are some albums which strike me as "avant-pop" (and they're all great):

Al Green, The Belle Album (1977)

Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Meets King Pennet (1978)

Chic, Risque (1979)

Elvis Costello, Get Happy!! (1980)

Au Pairs, Playing With a Different Sex (1981)

The Clash, Sandinista! (1981)

Associates, Sulk (1982)

Prince, 1999 (1982)

Public Enemy, Fear of a Black Planet (1990)

Son of Bazerk, Bazerk Bazerk Bazerk (1991)

De La Soul, De La Soul Is Dead (1991)

Scritti Politti, White Bread Black Beer (2006)

What about Eye in the Sky by the Alan Parsons Project?

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by Peestie

I have the two songs you posted off this a while ago (The Bridge and Only At Home) and I love them both so I'm going to have to get the album pretty soon. It's great stuff.

Well, after a while of giving it multiple listens, I rank it as a masterpiece. Go get it peestie!

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

Well, after a while of giving it multiple listens, I rank it as a masterpiece. Go get it peestie!

Sounds great! I'm getting quite excited about hearing it now. I'll just have to wait a week or two until I get settled into my new place before I start filling it up with more CDs