Listen to UTS Songs on lindseybuckingham.com

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by Kelly

You? are cracking me up.

apparently i've been bringing the comedy recently. who knew?

oh. and get me a ticket. and get excited.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

and get excited.

You know, I am not getting that vibe from anyone, really. Is everyone that stressed out about the tickets?

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by danax6

You know, I am not getting that vibe from anyone, really. Is everyone that stressed out about the tickets?

I'm stressing over something else right now.

As soon as the shows I'm going to, go on sale...I'll be over here jumping for joy. Right now...I'm a little stressed out.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by danax6

You know, I am not getting that vibe from anyone, really. Is everyone that stressed out about the tickets?

i mean, honestly -- when someone plays a venue as small as those lindsey is playing, there really isn't a bad seat. i'm not going to sweat it -- even if it is disheartening to see tickets being listed on broker sites already.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

i mean, honestly -- when someone plays a venue as small as those lindsey is playing, there really isn't a bad seat. i'm not going to sweat it -- even if it is disheartening to see tickets being listed on broker sites already.

I don't even have the privilege to be fretting about good seats, honestly. I really should just be happy that I am going, not worry too much about the seats, but I know that some people are really spoiled when it comes to that. Not that I blame them, I would be too if the circumstances were different.

[SortaSavageLike]

Not listening, nope, not gonna listen, nah ah, gonna buy the album before I listen...

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

apparently i've been bringing the comedy recently. who knew?

oh. and get me a ticket. and get excited.

I am excited....see > I was getting you a ticket anyway.

[BTFLCHLD]

I'm pleased Lindsey allowed some tracks on his site.
I'm not pleased those mp3s were posted here.

[hayley]

Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD

I'm pleased Lindsey allowed some tracks on his site.
I'm not pleased those mp3s were posted here.

JEALHEADS!

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by hayley

JEALHEADS!

SONS OF BITCHES. BUMPASSES!)@*!

[Matt Lucas]

Hello all---

First, I have to say that any new Lindsey music is better than NO new Lindsey music. Having said that, I'm excited about the stripped back production of some of the new songs, but I'm trying NOT to let my expectations get too high.

I definitely share the views that have been expressed about Lindsey's vocals on these tracks. I've never understood his apparent need to treat his vocals with a variety of effects. The worst of these is his frequent use of flange, which really gets on my nerves. Just for once, I'd love to hear Lindsey's voice with a direct, in-your-face production, similar to Daniel Lanois' approach to recording vocals. [Interestingly enough, Lanois is another guy who has a reputation for over-producing, but his vocal recording style usually results in a sound that makes the singer seem like he/she is right there in the room with the listener. There are probably LOTS of effects and processors involved, but Lanois uses them to make the vocal sound more natural...not LESS natural.]

On another note, I had the same thoughts about Brian Wilson's transition from SMiLE to Smiley Smile as others did, and I'm happy to hear Lindsey doing something a little different in terms of the music arrangements/production. I don't dislike any of the new songs, but "Shut Us Down" still doesn't do a lot for me because it's nothing new for Lindsey.

I was actually hoping for new or different mixes/versions of "Down on Rodeo" and "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind." Not that they weren't good already, but, after all this time, I was hoping for some new element to them. I guess, in my mind, this still doesn't feel like a "new" album. I felt the same way about SAY YOU WILL, and, assuming some of the other GIFT OF SCREWS tracks could show up on Lindsey's next "electric" album, it looks like the situation will be the same next time around.

But, again, I'm just happy to have a few previously unheard Lindsey songs...

mattl

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by Matt Lucas

I was actually hoping for new or different mixes/versions of "Down on Rodeo" and "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind." Not that they weren't good already, but, after all this time, I was hoping for some new element to them. I guess, in my mind, this still doesn't feel like a "new" album. I felt the same way about SAY YOU WILL, and, assuming some of the other GIFT OF SCREWS tracks could show up on Lindsey's next "electric" album, it looks like the situation will be the same next time around

That's just the nature of the beast when songs get leaked. It's not HIS fault that his "new" songs are already old-hat to a majority of his fans. Most likely, to Lindsey, he thinks ALL the songs are "new" to his fans. Actually, we're to blame if we have unfulfilled expectations of his new album.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by chiliD

That's just the nature of the beast when songs get leaked. It's not HIS fault that his "new" songs are already old-hat to a majority of his fans. Most likely, to Lindsey, he thinks ALL the songs are "new" to his fans. Actually, we're to blame if we have unfulfilled expectations of his new album.

I`m not too fond of the idea to first release songs on live outings and then after that put them on a follow up studio thing. Bleed to love her stole the place of another song on SYW, DOR and I am waiting were on the Soundstage DVD. The difference might be that DOR is a great song as studiversion whereas BTLH was boring me. Nevertheless I had liked new ones instead.
Concerning the leaked songs you are right, it is our problem. We have no right to complain. Sometimes we do it nevertheless

[Matt Lucas]

Originally Posted by chiliD

That's just the nature of the beast when songs get leaked. It's not HIS fault that his "new" songs are already old-hat to a majority of his fans. Most likely, to Lindsey, he thinks ALL the songs are "new" to his fans. Actually, we're to blame if we have unfulfilled expectations of his new album.

..well, I don't know about THAT, but you're right about the first part---it's not Lindsey's fault a bunch of his "new" songs have been in fans' collections for several years now. Or is it...? I always wondered if Lindsey himself leaked the tracks to measure fan interest and generate buzz for the album, knowing that the true fans would track the songs down and would also more than likely buy the official release.

I guess I should have been more clear. You're right---my main complaint is that we've been listening to some of these songs for years, and that's probably not Lindsey's fault. But another reason for me wanting different mixes or versions of the "old" songs is so that they fit better with the newer material.

In the recent online articles, Lindsey has implied that he wanted a more stripped back sound as well as a unified theme and tone for the album. He told Billboard, "It seemed to be more truthful in terms of what the songs were saying and what I was trying to look at" to hold the guitar-driven songs until the next album. He's talking about a general them and approach he was "trying to look at."

He also said, "I want to still have it sound like a record, but very much in the spirit of someone sitting and playing guitar." "Down on Rodeo" is a great song, but it doesn't have the kind of sound he's describing in that statement. If he wanted THAT kind of approach, he should have stuck with the demo arrangement, which I happen to think served the song a little better than the more produced one.

When I listen to the truly new songs, they literally sound like they're from a different session than the "older" songs like "Down on Rodeo"---probably because they ARE from a different session! Actually, "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind" is probably somewhere in between the two production styles. On the other hand, we don't know that the "new" songs weren't written or recorded 5 years ago...! Hah!

My favorite band, Crowded House, included an older song called "Walking on the Spot" on their final studio album, TOGETHER ALONE. WOTS was written and demoed in 1986 and performed in a completely different arrangement [upbeat] during their early tours, but the version that ended up on TOGETHER ALONE was a slow, dark ballad with a similar mood to Lindsey's "Street of Dreams" [which happens to be one of my favorite LB tunes].

My point is that, while CH included an older song on a newer album, they didn't just pull out the old tape from 1986 and shove the song into a group of newer recordings that feature a new, different production style. They gave the tune a tune-up, with a new arrangement and a new recording.

I was hoping that Lindsey would have, at the very least, remixed songs like "Down on Rodeo" to make them more closely match the production of the newer tunes.

Is this a deal-breaker for me? Of course not. I'll buy the CD the day it's released, and I will listen to it relentlessly. Obsessive fan that I am, I'm just being picky.

Originally Posted by stefan

I`m not too fond of the idea to first release songs on live outings and then after that put them on a follow up studio thing. Bleed to love her stole the place of another song on SYW, DOR and I am waiting were on the Soundstage DVD. The difference might be that DOR is a great song as studiversion whereas BTLH was boring me. Nevertheless I had liked new ones instead.

That's an interesting point. I never really considered that BTLH bumped another song from the track listing of SYW...I was just happy to have a finely mastered studio version of the tune! [I have to admit, though, that I burned out on it. Now, I can't stand the dated snare sound that Lindsey used on this track, which nearly ruins the song for me, and it was one of my all-time favorites.]

I guess I don't mind this practice of a "live version then studio version" release---that is, as long as the song in question is one that I like! I guess I was the only one lamenting the fact that a complete studio version of "My Little Demon" didn't end up on SYW. [In spite of what I said earlier in this same message, I'm still hoping it'll end up on the next electric guitar album!] Now, if "Running Through the Garden" had been on THE DANCE and then appeared on SYW as well, I'd have been upset. *grin*

mattl

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by Matt Lucas

Just for once, I'd love to hear Lindsey's voice with a direct, in-your-face production (....)

I don't dislike any of the new songs, but "Shut Us Down" still doesn't do a lot for me because it's nothing new for Lindsey.

Whaddayasay here Matt?
SUD has the most untouched direct in-your-face production Lindsey has ever recorded. AT LEAST since 1979. There are very little effects if at all. Even the guitar sounds ten times warmer than on any studiorecording I recall since Tusk. I understand that at first listen SUD -guitarwise- sounds like something as Say Goodbye, but the sound is as in your face as it can get with this recordingtechnique. In combination with the husky breathy vulnerable vocal I'd say it's a brand new approach. I just hope some of the unknown songs are strummers recorded with the SUD-production-mindset.


By the way, please post more, normally you say interesting and very music-related things that cut wood. I love that.