Heidi Klum sparks controversy - Kathy Najimy fires back

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Yeah - it was awful. They were these beautiful little girls - not even the slightest bit chubby (though chub - NOT obsesity-but chub is good on a kid) - and both thought they were SO fat. Of course their mothers were ripped a new one by doctors, oprah and experts....

were the mothers telling them they were fat?

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by carrie721

were the mothers telling them they were fat?

Not in so many words...but the things they let the kids do - dieting and such - and well ...I was only half listening when the mothers hit - since I was at work (I love my job) but once in a while a "real-life" vignette would come on - showing a kid on a playground "exercising" to exhaustion because she thought she was fat.

Now - I remember being 7 and telling my mom how fat I was - she freaked out - then took me to my aunt (health-nut and ex-anorexic) who assured me I wasn't fat - but I never believed it....so comments like that - that a kid or hell even an adult will hear can be hurtful -and subconciously a lot of people would pick up on that and take it on...

Too bad we're not one of those cultures where fat=good because it means you're wealthy and healthy

[diamondsnake]

I think Kathy is blowing it out of proportion. The model was clearly not plus size, but the outfit made her look that way. What is the point of wearing an outfit with so much fabric that it makes you look 30 pounds heavier? It doesn't matter if you are 120 pounds or 220 pounds, no one really wants to wear something that makes them look heavier. If you watched the show, I think that was the point Heidi was trying to make. I just hope the model didn't take it personally.

And, Heidi was on Larry King Live tonight and she tried to clear things up. She said that people shouldnot be offended by the term plus-size, etc. because it is a real thing, not a derrogatory term.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

What size out there do you class as a 'plus size model'?

Excellent letter BTW

[PsychCat]

I love me some Kathy Najimy...
although she should have gone full "Peggy Hill" in that letter!!

[strandinthewind]

Interesting letter. I do think, however, most people want it both ways. I remember when Carnie Wilson had her stomach stapeled on the net. Prior to that, she was all about how plus size people are happy, she was not sick, etc. Then, she drops the weight and she is all about how unhappy she was and it is fabulous to be thin. Moreover, how many times have we looked at a magazine and drolled over the sexy model, all of which are so called under weight or at least no plus sized. What a sad commentary on society IMO.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interesting letter. I do think, however, most people want it both ways. I remember when Carnie Wilson had her stomach stapeled on the net. Prior to that, she was all about how plus size people are happy, she was not sick, etc. Then, she drops the weight and she is all about how unhappy she was and it is fabulous to be thin. Moreover, how many times have we looked at a magazine and drolled over the sexy model, all of which are so called under weight or at least no plus sized. What a sad commentary on society IMO.

& now carnie is on celebrity fit club this season isn't she?, cuz after child birth she gained weight again~


i used to watch a 5 yr old girl who was beginning to be bulemic~ she wasn't over-weight by any means, she looked like any average size child, she has an older sister who had a different father that is very tall & lanky, so her sister had the same traits, she was also very tall & lanky~ the older sister is 7~ so the 5 yr old began starving herself & when forced to eat would go throw it all up~ then you would see her binging & trying to go purge~ i mean my god she was 5 yr's old~ i asked her mother to no avail, but it always really bothered me as to where this 5 yr old would know how binge & purge already~ it was so very sad~

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

What size out there do you class as a 'plus size model'?

Excellent letter BTW

Plus size models are a size 10!!! It's regoddamdiculous.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Plus size models are a size 10!!! It's regoddamdiculous.

WHAT!?! That is ridiculous. I already hated the fashion industry - and now I do even more. 10..give me a break!

[Rickypt]

I don't watch the show, but all my colleagues were buzzing about this.

I just know that I love, love, love Kathy Najimy.

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Plus size models are a size 10!!! It's regoddamdiculous.

A US 10 is a UK 14. That's just crazy.

[strandinthewind]

But, the funny/ironic/sad thing is wouldn't most people give their eye teeth to be that size 10 or thereabouts? That is what I was getting at earlier when I said that we want it both ways.