Evangelical Call to Action

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

No doubt. If someone went around today proclaiming to be the son of God, people would call them a loony and treat them just the way the Jews treated Jesus. They weren't blind to his powers or any of that ****, they were just thinking on more rational, practical terms.

I love it when we agree

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by eclipse

Just what I love...a nice and friendly chat; non-controversial chat about religion.

It is an impossible feat.
People (regardless of who their "GOD" ..whatever it or he/she may be...Or on the other end of the spectrum.. Believing in nothing-(which by the way...is still a belief!) Each and every person has a thought-emotion-opinion-judgement about religion-
Always have`` since day 1 and always will`` It is human to question and human to blame--

just wanted to add a friendly aside

~~eclipse~~

Fortunately and for that very reason, our Founding Fathers knew that and therefore made an explicit attempt to keep government out or validating or establishing one religion. A fact which none on the religious right seem to give a shiitte about these days.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by eclipse

Just what I love...a nice and friendly chat; non-controversial chat about religion.

It is an impossible feat.
People (regardless of who their "GOD" ..whatever it or he/she may be...Or on the other end of the spectrum.. Believing in nothing-(which by the way...is still a belief!) Each and every person has a thought-emotion-opinion-judgement about religion-
Always have`` since day 1 and always will`` It is human to question and human to blame--

just wanted to add a friendly aside

~~eclipse~~

Yes but fundamentalist Christians believe their religion is right while everyone else is wrong. This is arrogant and dangerous thinking IMO.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Yes but fundamentalist Christians believe their religion is right while everyone else is wrong. This is arrogant and dangerous thinking IMO.

Again, that is why the Founding Fathers had the very fortunate mindset to bar the govt. from establish a religion. Yet, the religious right cannot stand that. Personally, I think the flock there is blinded by religious fever and cannot see that Jerry Falwell and his ilk are just in it for the money. I mean they are hardly the meek who shall inherit the Earth and the way that ilk treats the "least of us" that Christ talks about is sickening. I get that these organizations do significant charity work, but no matter what good those do, they support a regime and past regimes that have directly caused many deaths and much suffering through no health care so they can make a few million more a year and perhaps take a few more trips on their GulfStream V.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, that is why the Founding Fathers had the very fortunate mindset to bar the govt. from establish a religion. Yet, the religious right cannot stand that. Personally, I think the flock there is blinded by religious fever and cannot see that Jerry Falwell and his ilk are just in it for the money. I mean they are hardly the meek who shall inherit the Earth and the way that ilk treats the "least of us" that Christ talks about is sickening. I get that these organizations do significant charity work, but no matter what good those do, they support a regime and past regimes that have directly caused many deaths and much suffering through no health care so they can make a few million more a year and perhaps take a few more trips on their GulfStream V.

And their churches get tax exempt status while they preach politics at the pulpit...etc. We agree on this stuff, strand.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

And their churches get tax exempt status while they preach politics at the pulpit...etc. We agree on this stuff, strand.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

. . . If religion weren't introduced to us by society I don't know that it would have occured to me naturally.

That is an interesting concept. I think religion came about as a way for man to explain the reason he is here and as a reason to explain natural events that seem aimed at one person or a society as a whole. Plus, the whole concept of bad behavior seems inate in that kids know somehow when they have done something wrong. So, I do not know if it occured naturally to society as a whole for those reasons. It also was used and is still used as a governing measure.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

. . . I never asked anyone where babies come from either . . . .

But you do know now - right

But, I agree, the inate concept of a guiding power cannot be universal.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

Well daddy gets drunk and tells mummy to shut up and lay still and then they forget to have the abortion and baby is born.

You are so bad

[seeker007nmss]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

You are so bad

Atleast the words "Turkey Baster" weren't used.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Atleast the words "Turkey Baster" weren't used.

Did I ever tell you about when I was in Law School and we were discussing paternity and related residual rights automatically granted by the state.

Well, my professor, who rarely saw humor in ANYTHING, showed us this video doc. of these two lesbians who were a couple and their ohhhhhh so flamingly homosexual friend, the sperm donor. At one point, about six lesbians are in the room and the male donor is loping around with turkey baster in hand urging a sing along to "Turkey baster babies - turkey baster babies" (sung to the tune of "Everything you wanted but didn't get for Chistomas is on sale now at Sears" ) and the sensible gals while initially unamused - soon joined the racous fold and they soon were all hopping aroung singing that. My poor professor could not understand why the ENTIRE class was crying with laughter

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did I ever tell you about when I was in Law School and we were discussing paternity and related residual rights automatically granted by the state.

Well, my professor, who rarely saw humor in ANYTHING, showed us this video doc. of these two lesbians who were a couple and their ohhhhhh so flamingly homosexual friend, the sperm donor. At one point, about six lesbians are in the room and the male donor is loping around with turkey baster in hand urging a sing along to "Turkey baster babies - turkey baster babies" (sung to the tune of "Everything you wanted but didn't get for Chistomas is on sale now at Sears" ) and the sensible gals while initially unamused - soon joined the racous fold and they soon were all hopping aroung singing that. My poor professor could not understand why the ENTIRE class was crying with laughter

I worry about that professor for not finding that funny!