Live in Sydney 1977

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

I had never seen this before. Chris looks so good in red and her earings. Peak performances during this time. This video includes: Say You Love Me, Oh Well, Rhiannon, You Make Loving Fun, and Go Your Own Way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00qp...&start_radio=1

thanks for sharing!

Stevie is so buzzed... you can hear it in her voice.

But they were at their peak here.

I laugh my azz off at the thought that it was ever even CONSIDERED that Stevie could play the acoustic guitar part on GYOW...

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I laugh my azz off at the thought that it was ever even CONSIDERED that Stevie could play the acoustic guitar part on GYOW...

I'm sure she thinks that she could have played it.

Much like her arrhythmic tambourine playing, playing that part OUT OF TIME, would've ruined the song.

I guess they could just mute her guitar(like her taped down tambourine jingles), and have Ray standing in the dark, backstage, playing the part, so she'd get credit.

[Macfan4life]

Anyone remember the audio that was posted of Stevie trying to strum to GYOW. Even Stevie herself was laughing stating "I was cancelled before I got my first gig" or something like that. My memory is Lindsey really did think Stevie could play the acoustic part. But after several attempts Ray Lindsey got the nod.

[cbBen]

Lindsey either thought he was the star of the band or thought he should be regarded as the star of the band.

But "Rhiannon" cemented Stevie as the star.

At some point the song became neutered and a shadow of what it once was, but during this period Stevie breathed fire into it.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by cbBen

Lindsey either thought he was the star of the band or thought he should be regarded as the star of the band.

But "Rhiannon" cemented Stevie as the star.

At some point the song became neutered and a shadow of what it once was, but during this period Stevie breathed fire into it.

There is truth in what you are saying. I don't think Lindsey would ever admit he was jealous of Stevie but you know he was. Didn't Chris once admit shortly before her passing that she was a tad jealous of Stevie in the beginning. Did you see that Ann Wilson interview that was trending today how jealousy broke up the original Heart band. The Wilson sisters were the stars and no one would ever interview or care to talk to the other members. It made me think of Fleetwood Mac. I think it would be worse for Heart because they were not just 2 girls in a band, they were family. So I think it felt like a family band and it drove the other members nuts which is why they had changes in bass, guitar, and drums from the original members.
Maybe its just me but one of the best moments in the Mirage concert is the beginning of YMLF. Right before Chris starts to sing Stevie comes on stage and it looks like Chris is giving side eye to Stevie. I wish I could have read her mind.
The band tried not to let Stevie become the lead singer with the media and it clearly drove them nuts. Stevie never had a lead single off any of Mac albums. Besides one side of Tusk, Stevie never had the first song either side A or B of an album.

[cbBen]

I'll address the rest separately, but as for singles: With the possible exception of "Dreams" (because of "GYOW"), "Rhiannon" "Dreams" and "Gypsy" (especially "Gypsy") are the obvious lead singles from their respective albums. Even with Say You Will, my choice for lead single would have been "Everybody Finds Out."

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by cbBen

I'll address the rest separately, but as for singles: With the possible exception of "Dreams" (because of "GYOW"), "Rhiannon" "Dreams" and "Gypsy" (especially "Gypsy") are the obvious lead singles from their respective albums. Even with Say You Will, my choice for lead single would have been "Everybody Finds Out."

Gypsy wasn't the lead single from Mirage. I remember Hold Me on the radio before the album was released(and me screaming at my friends to STFU). I'll be 29 on my next birthday.

[cbBen]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Didn't Chris once admit shortly before her passing that she was a tad jealous of Stevie in the beginning.

Did you see that Ann Wilson interview that was trending today how jealousy broke up the original Heart band. The Wilson sisters were the stars and no one would ever interview or care to talk to the other members. It made me think of Fleetwood Mac. I think it would be worse for Heart because they were not just 2 girls in a band, they were family. So I think it felt like a family band and it drove the other members nuts which is why they had changes in bass, guitar, and drums from the original members.

I didn't see or hear that comment from Chris about being a tad jealous of Stevie at the beginning.

Nor did I see the Ann Wilson interview. But I know the Wilson sisters had majority ownership in the band, so as long as they stuck together they could fire anyone they wanted. My sense is that more than anything is the critical factor behind all the comings and goings.

Also original lead guitarist Robert Fischer cheated on Nancy, which proved to be the death knell for his tenure in the group. It's not analogous to Lindsey and Stevie because, unlike Ann and Nancy, at that point they were not the bosses. (In time Stevie would attain the power position, notwithstanding her assertion to the contrary.)

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by cbBen

I didn't see or hear that comment from Chris about being a tad jealous of Stevie at the beginning.

Yes, Chris said a couple of times that she'd had a few moments of jealousy early on. I think that would be natural because stevie did kind of attract tons of attention. but on the other hand i don't think chris really wanted the attention/to be in the spotlight in center stage anyway. maybe it was more wanting her contributions to also be appreciated? maybe she felt slightly invisible.

I've always felt chris really changed the way she dressed after stevie joined. All of a sudden she was wearing those tiny, short-shorts w the high boots, and sexy little tops, she put feathers in her hair and had those platform sandals... I suppose this might have happened anyway just due to the fashions changing, but i think trying to present a bit of a "sexier image" as a woman may have been part of it, too.

--Lis

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by cbBen

Lindsey either thought he was the star of the band or thought he should be regarded as the star of the band.

But "Rhiannon" cemented Stevie as the star.

At some point the song became neutered and a shadow of what it once was, but during this period Stevie breathed fire into it.

I got lost. What song, GYOW? Or Rhiannon? And when and how was it neutered?

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I got lost. What song, GYOW? Or Rhiannon? And when and how was it neutered?

Rhiannon.

Watch Mirage, with the guitar solo(that later got cut from their shows), and the demonic exorcism of her singing, before she started always playing it safe.

What does the book say?

[Macfan4life]

I love everything else about Mirage but the Rhiannon is terrible. Besides being neutered its also slowed down on the Mirage tour.
Shame because Waddy and her band did a noble job on her solo tour only to return to the Mac and flame out on Rhiannon.

Ironically during the Klonopin haze the 1991 Timespace Rhiannon kicks ass.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I'm sure she thinks that she could have played it.

Much like her arrhythmic tambourine playing, playing that part OUT OF TIME, would've ruined the song.

I guess they could just mute her guitar(like her taped down tambourine jingles), and have Ray standing in the dark, backstage, playing the part, so she'd get credit.

Christine even said in an interview (Keyboard mag I think) that while Stevie wasn't a "great" piano player, Chris felt she should play something onstage just for the credibility of it.

Of course this never happened.

Stevie has zero discipline or focus to play an instrument well more than once.

Rick Beato just posted an interview with Billy Joel and listening to him talk about piano playing, songwriting, etc. made me think of her ping-ping-ping demos. While I actually love them, still.... cringeworthy when in the company of actual musicians. That said, she's the multi-millionaire, not me so........

[Macfan4life]

[QUOTE=bombaysaffires;1306046]Christine even said in an interview (Keyboard mag I think) that while Stevie wasn't a "great" piano player, Chris felt she should play something onstage just for the credibility of it.

Of course this never happened.

Stevie has zero discipline or focus to play an instrument well more than once.

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