Stevie to attend Mill Valley Film Festival in Oct

APerfectLie · #1 10-15-2012, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sparky

Consider SYW. If you can. List price was what? 15.99? I think I paid 11.99. That puts whole sale at 9.99. Tops. More like 8.99. If they have that crazy 25% rate they make 2.25 record. It sold what 800,00 copies? Okay. Let's say that. That equals 1,798,000 dollars. Minus 10 months in the Bel Air house at 25k a month. That's about 1.5 left. Producer fee? 200 easy. 1.3 mil left. Mixing and mastering? 100k. Now we are at 1.2. Fees for musician time? Another 100. Misc catering and assistants? 200 easy. Now it is 900k. Packaging deduction? About 20%. We are at 720k. Publicity? 250 easy. Now it is 470k. Photography and makeup and photoshoot foolery? 100k. That leaves 370k. Split 4 ways? Maybe 90 a piece. Minus taxes? 60k a piece. And I left out lawyers. And promo copies which are about 10% of total sales. If they broke even on SYW I will eat my drawers.

Not that you are wrong, but the idea that Fleetwood Mac has to spend $1.4 million to make an album is insane. Now we know they love the fancier side of life, but they could dramatically cut costs if they wanted to make another album.

250k saved by not renting a house.
200k saved by producing their own album. (Stevie wouldn't want THAT to happen tho, but they could still hire a cheaper producer)
100k saved by not paying "musician time." I'm assuming that means paying other people to come in and play certain instruments, such as Sheryl Crow, but hell, who needs them? Fleetwood Mac is a band! Play your own damn instruments!

They could reduce the costs of all of those items immensely if they felt they were not going to sell a bunch of copies of the album. They could also ditch their record label. If WB isn't financing anything, then why the hell do they get 75% of the wholesale value?! Of course an album won't generate $25 million in sales, much less $40 million, so touring is always more lucrative. However, it does not mean that they cannot make a profit with a new album, and a new album always leads to a tour. I don't know how much money Stevie made or lost on IYD, but I guarantee you she sold some extra tickets and was able to book her own headlining tour because of that album. Without IYD, Stevie would have been relegated to only casino shows and Heart and Soul.

KindOfWoman90 · #2 10-15-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by APerfectLie

They could reduce the costs of all of those items immensely if they felt they were not going to sell a bunch of copies of the album. They could also ditch their record label. If WB isn't financing anything, then why the hell do they get 75% of the wholesale value?! Of course an album won't generate $25 million in sales, much less $40 million, so touring is always more lucrative. However, it does not mean that they cannot make a profit with a new album, and a new album always leads to a tour. I don't know how much money Stevie made or lost on IYD, but I guarantee you she sold some extra tickets and was able to book her own headlining tour because of that album. Without IYD, Stevie would have been relegated to only casino shows and Heart and Soul.

Ugh, I would be overjoyed if they dropped their label! Honestly, I would think Lindsey would love that! Big labels get in the way... Indie labels have proven themselves imo. Think about comedians like Louis CK and Jim Gaffigan who sell their shows on their own websites! More profit.

Also, everyone keeps talking about how recording with FM is so full of strife. Still? I mean yeah, will there be disagreements, even arguments? Probably, yes, because it's a band with eight different minds (4 members and their agents). However, wouldn't you think after almost 40 years they would be better than ever in terms of the personal difficulties in studio? I mean, they always talk about how they wouldn't take their personal problems into the studio during Rumours because they knew that their music was greater than each of them individually. Based on LB and SN's recent work, as many of you mentioned, I think FM could come out with something pretty amazing!

Finally, while I don't think SYW is their strongest album, I still think it's pretty darn good! I also think it's better than TITN *gasp*

It isn't like anything else they've recorded really. It sounds very early 2000s, so I wouldn't expect another album to sound like that. But, I don't hold it against them for sounding like the times, that's why they are still around!

michelej1 · #3 10-15-2012, 01:50 PM

[Click for 25 pictures of Stevie at the event]
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/mo...ictures?page=1

Monsters and Critics

Stevie Nicks arriving at the 35th Annual Mill Valley Film Festival "In Your Dreams" screening

vivfox · #4 10-15-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

[Click for 25 pictures of Stevie at the event]
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/mo...ictures?page=1

Thank you for posting the link. What's your opinion on that hideous skirt/shirt she's wearing?

michelej1 · #5 10-15-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

Thank you for posting the link. What's your opinion on that hideous skirt/shirt she's wearing?

What? I didn't notice a skirt. She seems to be wearing a tunic with a draped cowl neck and then tights underneath. I think that's really cute. You know, the way the tunic cups over the hips makes them seem smaller. So, with that wider part hidden, you have the tights coming up and I think it's really flattering to the shape.

Michele

WildHearted · #6 10-15-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90

Also, everyone keeps talking about how recording with FM is so full of strife. Still? I mean yeah, will there be disagreements, even arguments? Probably, yes, because it's a band with eight different minds (4 members and their agents). However, wouldn't you think after almost 40 years they would be better than ever in terms of the personal difficulties in studio? I mean, they always talk about how they wouldn't take their personal problems into the studio during Rumours because they knew that their music was greater than each of them individually. Based on LB and SN's recent work, as many of you mentioned, I think FM could come out with something pretty amazing!

That's what you'd think. And that's what I thought, at least until Stevie's recent Q&A's and what people have said about the documentary.

I'll be ecstatic if we get the 2 or 4 songs that Stevie mentioned on another Greatist Hits album. Even if that means I have to buy another Greatest Hits album.

KindOfWoman90 · #7 10-15-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

That's what you'd think. And that's what I thought, at least until Stevie's recent Q&A's and what people have said about the documentary.

I'll be ecstatic if we get the 2 or 4 songs that Stevie mentioned on another Greatist Hits album. Even if that means I have to buy another Greatest Hits album.

Haha yes, or if you have an iPod you can always just buy the few new songs! But I'd buy a whole new Greatest Hits album if I had to hehe. I hate to see untapped potential, maybe not go to waste but, redirected into other projects just because they want to avoid conflict

elle · #8 10-15-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90

Ugh, I would be overjoyed if they dropped their label! Honestly, I would think Lindsey would love that! Big labels get in the way... Indie labels have proven themselves imo. Think about comedians like Louis CK and Jim Gaffigan who sell their shows on their own websites! More profit.

Also, everyone keeps talking about how recording with FM is so full of strife. Still? I mean yeah, will there be disagreements, even arguments? Probably, yes, because it's a band with eight different minds (4 members and their agents). However, wouldn't you think after almost 40 years they would be better than ever in terms of the personal difficulties in studio? I mean, they always talk about how they wouldn't take their personal problems into the studio during Rumours because they knew that their music was greater than each of them individually. Based on LB and SN's recent work, as many of you mentioned, I think FM could come out with something pretty amazing!

you'd think these people would grow up by the time they are in their 60s, right?

MacMan · #9 10-15-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90

Ugh, I would be overjoyed if they dropped their label!

I'm pretty sure Fleetwood Mac isn't signed with any label at this point. Their catalogue is with WB.

Macfanforever · #10 10-15-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90

Ugh, I would be overjoyed if they dropped their label! Honestly, I would think Lindsey would love that! Big labels get in the way... Indie labels have proven themselves imo. Think about comedians like Louis CK and Jim Gaffigan who sell their shows on their own websites! More profit.

Also, everyone keeps talking about how recording with FM is so full of strife. Still? I mean yeah, will there be disagreements, even arguments? Probably, yes, because it's a band with eight different minds (4 members and their agents). However, wouldn't you think after almost 40 years they would be better than ever in terms of the personal difficulties in studio? I mean, they always talk about how they wouldn't take their personal problems into the studio during Rumours because they knew that their music was greater than each of them individually. Based on LB and SN's recent work, as many of you mentioned, I think FM could come out with something pretty amazing!

Finally, while I don't think SYW is their strongest album, I still think it's pretty darn good! I also think it's better than TITN *gasp*

It isn't like anything else they've recorded really. It sounds very early 2000s, so I wouldn't expect another album to sound like that. But, I don't hold it against them for sounding like the times, that's why they are still around!

Dump the big name labels.Go indie.try something different for a change then the same ole rock and roll.Again .The label took to much of the bands money that they worked their a$$es off for it.

Thanks Michele for the photo link.

elle · #11 10-15-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90

Ugh, I would be overjoyed if they dropped their label! Honestly, I would think Lindsey would love that! Big labels get in the way... Indie labels have proven themselves imo.

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Dump the big name labels.Go indie.try something different for a change then the same ole rock and roll.Again .The label took to much of the bands money that they worked their a$$es off for it.

uhm, i know one - Mind Kit.