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Old 05-27-2007, 02:27 AM
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If you go to RO's site - she is taking questions.
Perez has a link to a video she made tonight which is pretty good.
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Old 05-27-2007, 07:15 AM
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thank god, i am so glad that cow is leaving~ & to say she is the "bigger" person...WHATEVAH...then why is she still spewing about all this on everything?...i just saw her video blog...all i have to say is WONK WONK... charlie brown!!!~ for someone (rosie) who keeps saying she is over it & all, she sure won't shut up about it, the perpetual victim...BARF!!!~
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thank god, i am so glad that cow is leaving~
That's pretty harsh.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:34 AM
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...but the fact that it was almost orchestrated, and then how it was allowed to play out, with the split-screen and no break for commercials.
That was such a set up kind of thing. I maintain EH either knew what she was doing or is so stupid that she did not realize she was just the pawn.
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thank god, i am so glad that cow is leaving~ & to say she is the "bigger" person...WHATEVAH...then why is she still spewing about all this on everything?...i just saw her video blog...all i have to say is WONK WONK... charlie brown!!!~ for someone (rosie) who keeps saying she is over it & all, she sure won't shut up about it, the perpetual victim...BARF!!!~
She is one of the biggest philathropists in this country, giving away a huge percentage of her income each year. Callling another human being a "cow" is really cold. I also wonder why you are even watching or reading her blog if you hate her so much. She is not the perpetual victim, she just tries to defend herself from being misquoted, misunderstood, misrepresented and betrayed. I guess she should just sit back and allow news agencies to misrepresent her thoughts??

Personally, I cannot wait for the View ratings to drop back down. (20 percent increase since Rosie came onboard) Obviously The View is not really about sharing one's views....
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:40 AM
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That was such a set up kind of thing. I maintain EH either knew what she was doing or is so stupid that she did not realize she was just the pawn.
And as much as I hate to say it, I think that Joy probably had something to do with it too, originally. She was the one who brought up the reasons why GWB is terrible...and when I watched it, I thought that kind of came out of nowhere.

But then once things started to get out of hand, she seemed irked by how it was being handled.

I wonder if Rosie feels betrayed by Joy at all...
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thank god, i am so glad that cow is leaving~ & to say she is the "bigger" person...WHATEVAH...then why is she still spewing about all this on everything?...i just saw her video blog...all i have to say is WONK WONK... charlie brown!!!~ for someone (rosie) who keeps saying she is over it & all, she sure won't shut up about it, the perpetual victim...BARF!!!~
wow. you really don't like her. I'm curious though why you think it's appropriate to call her a "cow" - it always baffles me that people who don't agree with another person's point of view immediately turn to calling that person names that don't have anything to do with the person's point of view. like, if I was having an argument over global warming, calling me a redneck doesn't really suit the argument, does it? so, making a derogatory reference to her weight doesn't really fit anything except showing that you resorted to calling her the name you think would hurt the most. I mean, you didn't call her a flaming liberal democrat...you called her a cow. it's your business and I guess you have your reasons why you don't like her, but calling her a cow is exactly what she was saying people would say.

how is she a perpetual victim?
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:23 AM
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^^^^ i don't go to her site or read her blog, it is all over the internet since all of this blew up, you can't escape it, perez's site has tons on it~ maybe i shouldn't say cow, but she is 1 lady who drives me nuts, always has~ i have never liked her at all, & i have tried to just because stevie was on her show~ i say she is the victim, becuz when this all blew up on the show last week, she sat there saying "i don't wanna fight"...& in the media asking to drop it all, & now all you see is her posting oh whoa is me type stuff, & putting out videos still yapping & yapping about it, my god let it die already~ & for everyone who thought i might have picked sides in this i haven't, EH is a twit, if the view ever let's her go, i don't think we'll be seeing her much, just cuz you're on survivor, does not make you a great host, does that make anyone feel better?~ i still won't be watching the view anymore, ever since meredith left, it has lost it's luster for me, the only one i would watch would be joy~
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:31 AM
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^^^^ i don't go to her site or read her blog, it is all over the internet since all of this blew up, you can't escape it, perez's site has tons on it~ maybe i shouldn't say cow, but she is 1 lady who drives me nuts, always has~ i have never liked her at all, & i have tried to just because stevie was on her show~ i say she is the victim, becuz when this all blew up on the show last week, she sat there saying "i don't wanna fight"...& in the media asking to drop it all, & now all you see is her posting oh whoa is me type stuff, & putting out videos still yapping & yapping about it, my god let it die already~ & for everyone who thought i might have picked sides in this i haven't, EH is a twit, if the view ever let's her go, i don't think we'll be seeing her much, just cuz you're on survivor, does not make you a great host, does that make anyone feel better?~ i still won't be watching the view anymore, ever since meredith left, it has lost it's luster for me, the only one i would watch would be joy~

The only place she has even addressed this issue is her own blog. She is not doing interviews, she is not answering questions, she is not calling up Larry King (trump style) and she is not being interviewed by Extra like Elizatwit. She is hardly going on and on about this. The media is posting entries she made in her own blog...uh, everyone posts about their life in their blog, don't they???? She always makes little video clips so she made one about the View and it was really nothing about the fight. She is often the victim, as people who do not like her views resort to calling her names and degrading her as a human being. Trump, Bill O'Reilly, "cow comments". It is not hard to see why she is down about the whole thing.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:36 AM
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The only place she has even addressed this issue is her own blog. She is not doing interviews, she is not answering questions, she is not calling up Larry King (trump style) and she is not being interviewed by Extra like Elizatwit. She is hardly going on and on about this. The media is posting entries she made in her own blog...uh, everyone posts about their life in their blog, don't they???? She always makes little video clips so she made one about the View and it was really nothing about the fight. She is often the victim, as people who do not like her views resort to calling her names and degrading her as a human being. Trump, Bill O'Reilly, "cow comments". It is not hard to see why she is down about the whole thing.
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And as much as I hate to say it, I think that Joy probably had something to do with it too, originally. She was the one who brought up the reasons why GWB is terrible...and when I watched it, I thought that kind of came out of nowhere.
That hadn't crossed my mind, but you're probably right. She was part of some agenda.

I'm not about to call her a cow (I hate most, if not all of the insults I've seen on TV and elsewhere), but I think she was acting extremely childish. I watched the whole thing on YouTube just so I could see exactly how it started, etc. and I thought both of them needed to just drop it. I couldn't believe how it kept going, and it was clear that they needed to go to a commercial break or just agree to have it out later. I've never watched this show before, but Elizabeth struck me as somewhat stupid, yet I could see her point--Rosie did insinuate that she viewed the troops were terrorists. She didn't say it; she insinuated it, but that's really all it takes. And then for no apparent reason, she bitched incessantly at Elizabeth for not defending her. Not only should that have been a private discussion, I don't see how in the world Elizabeth should be expected to defend her. Call her out for implying that the enemy is in Iraq and that we needed to attack Iraq, but stop making it personal. I thought it was ludicrous and a waste of time to watch as well as a complete waste of time on news shows the following couple of days (however entertaining those were to watch).

I do think Rosie enjoys playing the victim, and that argument was a prime example. I don't think that makes her a horrible person, but I do think it's immature. Watching the argument made me almost dislike her where I was neutral before. However, if she has enlightened viewers about political matters on that show, then good for her.
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My opinion on Rosie is that she is brave. She stands up for what she believes in and isn't afraid of what people will think of her. I believe that this situation was a bit too much for her as no one wants to be misinterpreted in that way. I definitely don't always agree with her, and her delivery is sometimes harsh (though I'm from Long Island originally, so maybe that's why she doesn't bother me as much?), but I think all in all she's a good person.

My thought is that once the argument got started, it was hard to stop (for EH and Rosie, both). We all know how it is to be passionate about something and how difficult it can be to STOP arguing. I think the producers absolutely should have cut to commercial, rather than keep it going with a split screen. But hate her or love her, Rosie brought those producers a lot of money and that's what matters to them.

The comments from people (not necessarily only on this site, but elsewhere too) come from having nothing better to say. It's easy to call someone a fat cow/dyke/whatever. And honestly, I imagine she's heard worse.
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My opinion on Rosie is that she is brave. She stands up for what she believes in and isn't afraid of what people will think of her. I believe that this situation was a bit too much for her as no one wants to be misinterpreted in that way. I definitely don't always agree with her, and her delivery is sometimes harsh (though I'm from Long Island originally, so maybe that's why she doesn't bother me as much?), but I think all in all she's a good person.

My thought is that once the argument got started, it was hard to stop (for EH and Rosie, both). We all know how it is to be passionate about something and how difficult it can be to STOP arguing. I think the producers absolutely should have cut to commercial, rather than keep it going with a split screen. But hate her or love her, Rosie brought those producers a lot of money and that's what matters to them.

The comments from people (not necessarily only on this site, but elsewhere too) come from having nothing better to say. It's easy to call someone a fat cow/dyke/whatever. And honestly, I imagine she's heard worse.
You should read her Q and A's on her blog. She posts good and bad questions and alot of people are just downright brutal to her. She always has a good comeback. She just got called a "cow" yesterday as a matter of fact. I just read one from a guy who asked her if she was a "tranny" to which she replied "yes I am, are you looking for a date?".
It is unfair for people to watch the incident from Wed. on youtube and form an opinion about what happened. This whole thing started on Monday between EH and RO and continued into Tuesday. Rosie was saying on her blog that she was hearing that producers were talking to EH all weekend long...perhaps encouraging some big blow up for Sweeps. It finally came to a head on Wednesday. Rosie never insinuated our troops were terrorists and the whole argument was because EH did not say anything when Fox News misquoted Rosie. I do not see anything wrong with expecting a friend to speak up when you are being misrepresented.
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I can't believe I care this much about this inane show, but I found this (which I suppose someone posted already)--

O’DONNELL: I just want to say something. 655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?

HASSELBECK: Who are the terrorists?

O’DONNELL: 655,000 Iraqis -- I'm saying you have to look, we invaded --

HASSELBECK: Wait, who are you calling terrorists now? Americans?

O’DONNELL: I'm saying if you were in Iraq, and the other country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?

HASSELBECK: Are we killing their citizens or are their people also killing their citizens?

O’DONNELL: We're invading a sovereign nation, occupying a country against the U.N.

I understand exactly what she's saying, and I couldn't agree more. But I think it's still clear that one could interpret that she thinks of the troops as terrorists. That is certainly implied, and I don't see how anyone could argue that it's implied (given that excerpt, at least...but it seems like that excerpt's enough).

Perhaps (and this is really just an assumption) she's afraid to really say what she means because it would mean a professional suicide to admit that she does view the troops as terrorists in addition to thinking that the Iraqis probably feel that way.

I didn't see it, but I don't doubt that FAUX News misquoted her. But I don't think they even needed to, because someone could interpret her in the way they find so offensive anyway, and easily.

And no, I don't see anything wrong with expecting a friend to speak up when someone has accused you of something, but I do think it's unnecessary to broadcast your grievances on TV. The whole exchange started out as a discussion of politics (maybe) but quickly devolved into a cat fight I found reminiscent of my high school years.
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