on the outside looking in

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

we really could have done without that

Oh man I KNEW KNEW either you or Carrie would say something about that one

I should have placed bets

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Oh man I KNEW KNEW either you or Carrie would say something about that one

I should have placed bets

well..you would have had to bet on which one of us....hehee....

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

well..you would have had to bet on which one of us....hehee....

I was even going to make a comment after my initial post - something to the effect of (shut up Carrie and Michelle) I decided against it.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I was even going to make a comment after my initial post - something to the effect of (shut up Carrie and Michelle) I decided against it.

it wouldn't have helped...

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

it wouldn't have helped...

That's why I didn't include it

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

That's why I didn't include it

us bop girls know each other toooo too well...

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

us bop girls know each other toooo too well...

It's a curse

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

shall I take my bow now? sorry if that offended you, but I already gave my heartfelt 2 cents.

plz, don't apologize. i needed hip boots to wade through this thread ... at least your post made me laugh.

[michelle2677]

Originally Posted by carrie721

plz, don't apologize. i needed hip boots to wade through this thread ... at least your post made me laugh.

[foxyluva]

Ask anyone, Carrie can turn any thread to the topic of masturbation.

Its a skill really.

[carrie721]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

Ask anyone, Carrie can turn any thread to the topic of masturbation.

Its a skill really.

i.hate.you.

and yes, it is!

[becca]

I can imagine that when you are a minority all your life you are going to feel at times a pain for wanting to be in the majority, not having to fight against judgement from people who can't fully understand, or at least that you can't simply assume are sympatico with you.

Or something like that. I'm not wording this too well. Some people have no idea at all of what they take for granted, the circumstances that exist to their benefit without them having to be aware of it. Nevertheless ignorance is not innocence. For example I'm poorish but am appreciative of what I do have, to many people who have never had to think about money if they think about it at all they seem to think anyone could have done what they did. I still don't know one tenth of the system that they were born into and had countless guides to in the form of relatives and such. It's the same with sexuality I imagine, most people have never had to think much about it, the system of the majority is a custom fit for them to be fulfilled through with no questions aimed at them as to whys or any of what gay people endure. I forget when I became aware of this, but when I did I suddenly saw a same-sex relationship as beautiful in the sense that love survived hostility but also simple even willful incomprehension from the outside society. And they are still together, over thirty years now, and it was made legally what it actually is not so very long ago! I helped in my own small ways to bring that change about here so that more people can be included and can more fully be themselves.

Different people add so much to this world for all of our benefit, and if someone has to wear hip-waders that's their handicap. It took me a long time but I finally "got it".

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

well....


true..







shall I take my bow now? sorry if that offended you, but I already gave my heartfelt 2 cents.

you didnt offend me! I was teasing you--I guess I used the wrong smiley

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I have some experience with this...that's all. 2007 is the year of self-improvement and self-love

No self-improvement, just letting your real self emerge like a butterfly, right? I think my res is to stop beating up on myself.

I've struggled with this same thing, David. Ultimately you have to be who you are, there really is no other option. You can make adjustments that you want to make to be happier. But you can't make any to try to make someone else happy. That never works.

This is a good reminder for me! I keep wondering why T didn't like me but who cares! He's a loser. Or a tosser, depending on who you talk to.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by michelle2677

us bop girls know each other toooo too well...

Okay, who the hell is Bop? Please pardon my ignorance.