Destiny Rules: the unseen bit

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

I dont know if this is correct or not, but I seem to recall the running order issue relating to the last songs "Say Goodbye" and "Goodbye Baby". At first, I think the order had Lindsey's song last, but eventually Stevie prevailed and "Goodbye Baby" was last, to leave things (as Stevie wanted) on a more positive note.

Yep, a song about aborting a child is WAY more positive than telling a lover goodbye.

Girlfriend is crazy.

[danax6]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

Yep, a song about aborting a child is WAY more positive than telling a lover goodbye.

Girlfriend is crazy.

Ah, but you see, it had to the "I'll beeeee with youuuuuu again..." line. I can see how that's more positive than "Now I say goodbye to you..."

[tuigirl]

Originally Posted by Boots

Dang - I totally missed All Access. I'd love to have more scenes where there is more discussion on the song order and all. I wonder why the producers decided to snip that bit?

I don't believe I've ever seen All Access here as a programme, anyone able to upload anything on You Tube?

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

I dont know if this is correct or not, but I seem to recall the running order issue relating to the last songs "Say Goodbye" and "Goodbye Baby". At first, I think the order had Lindsey's song last, but eventually Stevie prevailed and "Goodbye Baby" was last, to leave things (as Stevie wanted) on a more positive note.

I can't remember which magazine the article was in, but shortly before the album was released, Lindsey said that they disagreed on the running order because it was (and I'm paraphrasing here), "Stevie's natural inclination to put the heavier songs towards the end of the album," but that he wanted them upfront and not "buried."

I don't know that it was wise to have "Murrow" and "Illume" as the second and third tracks though. They should have built towards those... taking the listener on a bit of a journey.

[David]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I can't remember which magazine the article was in, but shortly before the album was released, Lindsey said that they disagreed on the running order because it was (and I'm paraphrasing here), "Stevie's natural inclination to put the heavier songs towards the end of the album," but that he wanted them upfront and not "buried."

I don't know that it was wise to have "Murrow" and "Illume" as the second and third tracks though. They should have built towards those... taking the listener on a bit of a journey.

I think their decision should have been strictly aural/abstract rather than thematic/verbal.

[Boots]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

Yep, a song about aborting a child is WAY more positive than telling a lover goodbye.

Girlfriend is crazy.

Who ever said this song was about anybody aborting a child? That's pure speculation.

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by tuigirl

I don't believe I've ever seen All Access here as a programme, anyone able to upload anything on You Tube?

I've a funny feeling it's on www.throwndown-videos.net. I LIVE there these days.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by David

I think their decision should have been strictly aural/abstract rather than thematic/verbal.

A little of both would be the best way to go, I imagine. Tracking the songs so that they play off of each other both sonically and thematically.

I've always thought the running orders of FM's albums are somewhat scattershot anyway, often causing the three writers' material to pull away from each other, rather than being complimentary. But then I'm more of a harmony over discord kind of guy, so that's probably just me.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Boots

Who ever said this song was about anybody aborting a child?

I thought Stevie did, in an interview?

We found out that it was partially about Don Henley and the line "when you build your house, then call me home" was about him. Apparently he was building a house at the time. I thought it was in this same interview that she ponied up about the abortion of their child and how she named the fetus Sara or something like that. I'm vague on all of this.

[catinthedark]

Originally Posted by Boots

Who ever said this song was about anybody aborting a child? That's pure speculation.

THANK you very much.

ugh. i can't even get into this discussion.

[tuigirl]

Originally Posted by Sahara

I've a funny feeling it's on www.throwndown-videos.net. I LIVE there these days.

Oh sahara! many thanks, I just saw it...I didn't know there was so much on that site, will have to check it out some more

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

I thought Stevie did, in an interview?

We found out that it was partially about Don Henley and the line "when you build your house, then call me home" was about him. Apparently he was building a house at the time. I thought it was in this same interview that she ponied up about the abortion of their child and how she named the fetus Sara or something like that. I'm vague on all of this.

If memory serves me correctly, La Nicks has never commented on GB except to say that they close the show with it and it is an emotional song for her. Personally, I think she re wrote it for SYW to make it about LB and herself as opposed to the loss of a child, which could be her child and I also think Rhiannon's lost child.

[JeannieKartis]

there was alot of 'discussion' regarding Linsdey wanting SYW to be a double album...

[skcin]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

I thought Stevie did, in an interview?

We found out that it was partially about Don Henley and the line "when you build your house, then call me home" was about him. Apparently he was building a house at the time. I thought it was in this same interview that she ponied up about the abortion of their child and how she named the fetus Sara or something like that. I'm vague on all of this.

Wait - are you talking about Sara or Goodbye Baby? Boots is referring to GB, I believe.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by skcin

Wait - are you talking about Sara or Goodbye Baby? Boots is referring to GB, I believe.

I'm talking about Sara. Oops, confusitron

How did I mix those two up? Oh wait, I know, Goodbye Baby has the "don't take me to the tower and take my child away"....line and I must have conflated it with Sara somehow, but is that how I got confused?? I'll have to go back and re-read this thread .