Its Official: Lindsay Lohan Has Covered "Edge Of Seventeen" For New Album

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by David

Look who's talking. . . .

So David, what's the deal with the second pic on your signature? I don't get it...

[David]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Nope, as I said, I don't think Edge should be covered.

Is it okay if I sing it in the shower or play it on the piano? I don't want to disturb the cosmic balance or anything.

[David]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

So David, what's the deal with the second pic on your signature? I don't get it...

I put the wrong caption on.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by David

Is it okay if I sing it in the shower or play it on the piano? I don't want to disturb the cosmic balance or anything.

By all means. I've been known to send my cats racing under the bed by doing my own rendition. I just don't think recording and releasing a cover of it is a good idea. But if Stevie likes the idea, then my opinion means nothing. It's her song.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

What is intensely personal about it, though? Aisde from the fact that Stevie claims one of the verses is about that one experience in the hospital, the lyrics are almost totally inscrutable.

My understanding is that it is about her experience with death. I can't think of many things more personal than such an experience. If I wrote a song about my experience with my partner's death, I wouldn't be happy about someone else recording it.

It's just my opinion...some obviously find it ridiculous, but it's where I stand on a cover of Edge.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

My understanding is that it is about her experience with death. I can't think of many things more personal than such an experience. If I wrote a song about my experience with my partner's death, I wouldn't be happy about someone else recording it.

It's just my opinion...some obviously find it ridiculous, but it's where I stand on a cover of Edge.

I hear what you're saying, but I think that if such a song were done the right way, and not by some talentless hack, then it could be a great thing. I just don't think Lindsay Lohan is the best choice to cover this song. This song should be covered by a great vocalist to do it any justice. Otherwise, it's not an homage, nor is it a great experimental venture, it's just an embarrassment for everyone involved. Sorry Diss .

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

If the song is released and becomes a hit chances are those 15-16 year old girls will never realize the song is a cover and think that it's a Lindsay Lohan original song, that's the scary part.

Well, I know 40 year olds who still think 'Black Magic Woman' is a Santana original song.

[Nicksluvver]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Well, I know 40 year olds who still think 'Black Magic Woman' is a Santana original song.

LOL ME TOO !

[goldustsongbird]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Nope, as I said, I don't think Edge should be covered. Not because of goddess worship, or whatever you've written above, but because the song is so intensely personal. I don't know why Stevie would want someone else to sing it.

I like Lindsey Lohan, though, she was great in Mean Girls.

To be honest, the fact that it's Lohan covering it isn't really what bothers me. It could be anyone else, and I probably still wouldn't be enthusiastic about it. As much as a compliment as it may be to Stevie, I don't think her songs can really be covered --Not because of any sort of goddess worship -- but because many of her songs are about her own experiences, past and present. Someone other than Nicks singing, "...with the words of a poet and a voice of a choir, and a melody" would sound out of character to me, especially coming out of the mouth of a nineteen year old girl. I know she's trying to COVER it, not make it her own, but it would still sound "off" to me. When I heard Jonas's version, I have to admit, it wasn't terrible (coming from someone who generally prefers female singing voices to male ones!), but the feeling and personal connection there was missing.

It's like Eva Cassidy's version of Songbird. It's nice; the woman clearly has a gorgeous voice, but there's a difference between Eva's version and the original. Or... say, Nicky Holland covering Cyndi Lauper's "Hat Full of Stars". it just doesn't sound right, since the song, although I'm sure many people could find a way to relate on some level, was about her dealing with her memories of her 1988 split with David Wolff. Cyn went through the emotions, whereas the person who covered it, presumably, is just going the motions.

Y'know what I'm saying?

To said... I have to admit, I am curious as to whether or not Lohan will include the "Edge yell" in her version or not.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird

Cyn went through the emotions, whereas the person who covered it, presumably, is just going the motions.

If the person covering a song is presumably just going through the motions, they shouldn't really be covering the song in the first place. A person covering a song should presumably be bringing their own experience and their own talent and weight and perspective to that song.

One of the main purposes of art is that it's not totally solipsistic, and it doesn't mean just one thing. If it is, and it does, then it's just bad art. What's the point of a work of art if no one else can experience what's being expressed in it, or bring their own layers of meaning to it? If art can't achieve some level of universality in the way other people interact with it, then it's not being good art.

And there's nothing about the vast majority of Stevie's songs that's oh-so-intensely personal that nobody else could ever touch them. The fact that nobody really knows what most of them are actually about is testament enough to that.

You want to talk about an intensely personal song? Try "Hurt" by Nine Inch Nails. Now that's f***ing personal. And yet Johnny Cash covered it, and it was absolutely brilliant, and it brought scores of new meanings to the song. And that's the whole point: art isn't static, or it shouldn't be, anyway. And nor should it mean only one thing.

"Edge of Seventeen" might be partly based on Stevie's experiences with death in a hospital on the night of John Lennon's murder, but that's not what the song is about. What's it about is completely different for everyone who hears it, and everyone who potentially performs it. And that's the beauty of it. If anybody feels that one of Stevie's songs has moved them enough and has been meaningful for them enough that they want to perform it themselves and bring that new meaning out, then I'll gladly welcome a cover of anything in her catalogue.

[ragandbone]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

By all means. I've been known to send my cats racing under the bed by doing my own rendition. I just don't think recording and releasing a cover of it is a good idea. But if Stevie likes the idea, then my opinion means nothing. It's her song.

So much for the "Shower Sessions" Podcast idea...

[amber]

Originally Posted by ragandbone

So much for the "Shower Sessions" Podcast idea...

sorry, didn't mean to have a post with just laughing, but I had to.

"Amber - Shower Sessions..."


Oh, and I guess if I have to comment on the topic...

L-Ho can do whatever she wants, but in all probability I will think her Edge cover sucks. If it doesn't, I'll be pleasantly suprised!
But I don't think L-Ho shouldn't cover it. You know, in that way that she can do whatever she wants? I mean, I definitely have the preconception that it will suck, but I don't have to listen to it.

I will be mad, though, if everyone likes L-Ho's version of Edge, and it becomes a hit, while being vastly inferior to the original.

If this should happen, I want Stevie's Edge to be played every single time someone talks about L-Ho's Edge. Or nearly.

In other words, if this song becomes popular, there better be some mad props to Stevie as much as they can be fitted in. A "mad prop" extravaganza, if you will.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

L-Ho can do whatever she wants, but in all probability I will think her Edge cover sucks. If it doesn't, I'll be pleasantly suprised!

It can't be any worse than Jonas' cover of it. Good christ.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

It can't be any worse than Jonas' cover of it. Good christ.

Never heard, doll. I'm sure I'd agree, though. Especially with my severe "Only Stevie for Edge, or any other Stevie song" bias.
Don't get me wrong, there have been some nice covers. (most notably I've heard cool alternates of "The Chain"). But I listen to Stevie's songs primarily to hear Stevie's voice (thank goodness, cause if I was a lyrics person, I'd be PISSED! ).
And Edge is sooooo uber-Stevie.

[Dreammms]

Originally Posted by amber

Never heard, doll. I'm sure I'd agree, though.

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