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Let's do a mini deep dive into this song. I would say this is one of the better songs on RAL but that does not mean much because I think the album is terrible. None of the album is very "Stevie" with her crooning professional song written songs by other writers. But Stevie shows up here and there and this is one of the songs. Its very programmed and drowning in 80's synths. Her brother gets co-writes and I wonder what he contributed. I wonder if he added all of those cheezy Stevie-isms like the "moon and her sisters" "drowning in the sea" and "leaving you with something warm."
But here is the kicker for me. Her vocal is not that bad on the song. I much prefer every other version except the album version. Stevie sings the song as if she is sort of acting or pretending to be Stevie Nicks rather than Stevie just belting out a song like Edge of 17 or Nothing Ever Changes. The way she delivers the song is her sort of trying to be Stevie. Does that make sense? Anyone else hear that? She's not going for Prince like on Sister Honey but its sort of like she needed some Stevie shtick for the album and this was going to be her "dramatic" song. Nothing is more 80s than the extended version at the end where she is saying with a stern voice "how dare he.........how dare he" at the fade out. Maybe its so bad its good I guess. Someone on this board mentioned they thought the song was about her marriage to Kim. I would agree with that especially when she says "I stood with you against the storm". Anyway many on this board like RAL better than me. What do you think of this song? I think with real drums and it not being so programmed would have made the song better. But the song is drowning in Stevie cheese and there never used to be Stevie cheese. The funny part (IMHO) at the end: SHE WANTS YOU TO FIGHT **anytime** SHE WANTS YOU TO STAND UP **anywhere** SHE WANTS YOU TO WIN It sounds like cheerleaders at a game
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It has always been one of my favorites of hers, quite possibly of all time. But I doubt I could explain why. Unlike on the Other Side of the Mirror album, where she is obviously trying to sound reckless and windswept (and failing—because she can’t make us think of anything but Laurel Canyon), here she is sounding authentically reckless and believably windswept. In terms of the 19th century literary movement, there is nothing more Romantic in Stevie’s catalogue than her cocaine-fueled wail of erotic frustration in “The Nightmare.” The persona she creates in this track is kinetically animated and driven — you can almost see her running across the moors, or riding a black steed, or fleeing the lord of the manor to the edge of the rocky cliff. The turbulent North Sea is in this song.
No, I doubt her brother had anything to do with the lyrics. A songwriting credit often refers to a musical addition. I think Chris added some synthesizer effects like a phaser here or possibly a chord progression — and then took songwriting credit.
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I fully agree with David, I love the song. Big drama, and her vocal is lifted by the wall of production. Barely coherent lyrics delivered across a tapestry of sounds. Classic Stevie vibe. And I always say, no matter what you think of RAL it is not boring like BD.
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I have always loved The Nightmare (and really liked the extended version) I’m definitely from the camp of loving RAL. I liked that she went a different direction after BD and WH. The 80’s was a great decade and RAL as TOSOTM still get a lot of play in my rotations.
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Wow.....I've always considered The Nightmare just that.....a total nightmare.
It's a cheesy recycling of previous lyrics into a tossed word salad. Lazy, lazy, lazy. One of her worst.
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So The Nightmare is messy and delicious.
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It's unique for many reasons. It appears to have been added to the album late. It feels to me that during playback the album felt and sounded nothing like a Stevie album so this song was to add all of those words and phrases to almost give the album a Stevie vibe. Maybe its such a trainwreck its fun to listen to. At the end of the day I will take a song of Stevie trying to sound like Stevie over the songs that are so un-Stevie on RAL. Early demos of the song with the piano are nothing special. She's got some good lines but then the final product has all of those cliches throw in. She's trying too hard to be like Stevie on this one. Its part funny, part annoying, and very schticky. She's doing too much. But in the wild excesses of the mid 80s its a trip listening today. Her earlier efforts had lots of drama in her songs. But the drama seems forced on this one. The way she sings "but the nightmare was not over" is a way she does not usually sing with such forced drama. The bridge is so cheezy "and about the moon and her sisters, how dare he take them prisoner" Its like her or Chris were trying to layer in her witchiness into the song. Its fine but its clearly a mid 80s synth pop sensation especially the rambling expanded version. The music gets very hypnotic crazy at the end right before the How dare he's I wonder if it was Kim that was holding her prisoner. How dare he!
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I'm not a big fan of The Nightmare, but I am intrigued by the lyrics. I always thought it was about her marriage to Kim also.
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I agree the song is probably, like most of her songs, about something real in her life.
I just feel like this was a time in her life where her creativity had mostly run out, she was burned out, she was addicted, she was on the hamster wheel running non stop between two careers, and honestly her ego had grown out of proportion regarding her own greatness. As a result she just sort of "manufactured" songs so she had enough for an album. It's like "I need a song, and people expect these kinds of phrases from me, so I'll put them all in a blender and see what comes out". It's just a sad reflection from the smart songwriter she was in her early days. She wasn't getting time off to let her creativity regenerate itself. I guess in that way this song feels to me more like "product" than an organic song. No judgement if other people like it; it's just cringey to me. There are other songs I actually quite like that other people hate, so to each their own.
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At first I was going to post Yeah! I really like that song! But then I realize... Oh, The Nightmare, not Nightbird. That shows how "much" of a fan I am of Stevie's solo works.
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Just today I listened to the album version on youtube. The mid 80s keyboards makes this probably her biggest synth sound on the album IMHO. The extended version opens with guitar and is an eclectic mix of so many synth sounds, guitars, bongos that really gets hypnotic at the end. Its really wild. Like much of her RAL songs I think it could have been done better or at least hold up over time.
The part that gets me is how she lowers her voice for the part "that was when the dream took her prisoner and she knew The Nightmare was not over" Drama Stevie preach!
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I looked up the musician credits on Wikipedia:* Stevie: lead vocal, synths (the only song on the album on which she plays an instrument) Rick Nowels: synths, backing vocals Charles Judge: synths Michael Landau: guitars George Black: drums, synth bass, backing vocals Andy Newmark: drums Lori Perry-Nicks, Sharon Celani, Maria Vidal: backing vocals *Especially in the case of the synth players, of which there are three, I'm dubious as to whether each player credited with "synths" or "guitars" in fact plays multiple synthesizers or guitars. Last edited by cbBen; 05-30-2026 at 07:36 PM.. |
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[QUOTE=Macfan4life;1305617]Just today I listened to the album version on youtube. The mid 80s keyboards makes this probably her biggest synth sound on the album IMHO. The extended version opens with guitar and is an eclectic mix of so many synth sounds, guitars, bongos that really gets hypnotic at the end. Its really wild. Like much of her RAL songs I think it could have been done better or at least hold up over time.
The part that gets me is how she lowers her voice for the part "that was when the dream took her prisoner and she knew The Nightmare was not over" Drama Stevie preach![/QUOTEI I remember hearing this song for the first time after buying "Rock A Little" and really liking the drama of the beat and the music. However, she sounded so sad while she was singing the lyrics. I wonder who she was referring to when she was singing and I paraphrase here, how dare he take the moon (her), and her sisters, prisoner?
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The sisters (moon) reference is another clue about Robin and Kim. Hernan Rojas, who served as the audio engineer for Tusk, recalled that Nicks dubbed her friend group of Sara Recor, Sharon Celani, and Robin Anderson as "members of the sisterhood", all of whom were bestowed golden half-moon pendants. BTW There was a ledge deep dive into this song in 2010 From the ledge archives: https://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/archi...p/t-43627.html
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Stevie: lead vocal Bill Cuomo: keyboards Waddy Wachtel: guitars Mike Porcaro: bass Denny Carmassi: drums Lori Perry-Nicks, Sharon Celani, Marilyn Martin, Rick Nowels: backing vocals *Again, who knows whether Waddy in fact played multiple guitars. Also Sharon Celani sings on "The Nightmare" as well. I errantly omitted her above. Last edited by cbBen; 05-31-2026 at 12:01 AM.. |
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