Stevie really needs to rethink not participating in the new Fleetwood Mac album

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I like Behind the Mask so much more than Say You Will, but that's subjective.

The weakest charting single from Tango was not Seven Wonders, which peaked at #19, but Lindsey's Family Man, which hit #82, I think.

Talking about the Top 40 singles. I don't even count Family Man and Behind The Mask was a bad album. The only reason it sold anything was because of Tango.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Talking about the Top 40 singles. I don't even count Family Man and Behind The Mask was a bad album. The only reason it sold anything was because of Tango.

They did a big tour on it, too. BTM... I think it sold close to 1million. About same as SYW..

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

ah ah ah.. don't forget Everywhere..

I wasn't Which incidentally was an even bigger hit in the UK..number 4.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I wasn't Which incidentally was an even bigger hit in the UK..number 4.

Christine really did get a lot of airplay back in the day.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Christine really did get a lot of airplay back in the day.

Christine's single off Tango really stood the test of time.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

ah ah ah.. don't forget Everywhere..

Tango cemented Chris as Mac's #1 hit maker.

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

They did a big tour on it, too. BTM... I think it sold close to 1million. About same as SYW..

stop spitting on SYW! that album came out after napster, etc etc... sales at that time cannot compare to previous decades, same as sales now cannot compare to early 2000s.

while i agree that SYW was disjointed and 2 solo albums slapped together, most of Lindsey's songs on it are so fantastic that it overrides non-cohesiveness as an album.

that said, if original Gift of Screws came out instead of plucking those songs for FM, that album would be in a completely different stratosphere from SYW. it's too bad, but at least we have a 2001 bootleg version as a consolation.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Christine's single off Tango really stood the test of time.

Little Lies, or Everywhere... I think Everywhere holds up better.. but then I heard LIttle Lies live on the OWTS tour.. it was a great jam..

[Jondalar]

Another arguement for Stevie participating in the new Fleetwood Mac album is age.

Stevie keeps bragging that woman in her family live to be 90 years old. However how many women in her family were cocaine addicts for 15 years. That had to of hurt her heart muscles. She would be very lucky to live to be 75. And how many women in her family lived the rock 'n' roll lifestyle? The human papilloma virus causes cancer and I wonder how many versions of that are floating around in her body mutating. The older she gets the weaker her immune system will be and she won't be able to fight off stuff like that. Cancer is a huge threat to her.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Little Lies, or Everywhere... I think Everywhere holds up better.. but then I heard LIttle Lies live on the OWTS tour.. it was a great jam..

yes! i always loved Everywhere way more than LL, but OWTS tour was really Tango tour that never was, and LL was one of the highlights of that show, without question!

[elle]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Another arguement for Stevie participating in the new Fleetwood Mac album is age.

timing of her participation will barely change though, she's already too late:

if Stevie participates in that album that's almost finished, it will extend the timeline so it will be finished and released after their 2017/18 tour. which will be the same timeline for them to start another album with Stevie.

but they can put this one out in 2017 if Stevie doesn't rejoin in the last minute, extends their timelines, and deprives us of any opportunity to see these new songs live, ever.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

timing of her participation will barely change though, she's already too late:

if Stevie participates in that album that's almost finished, it will extend the timeline so it will be finished and released after their 2017/18 tour. which will be the same timeline for them to start another album with Stevie.

but they can put this one out in 2017 if Stevie doesn't rejoin in the last minute, extends their timelines, and deprives us of any opportunity to see these new songs live, ever.

We need to remain positive that she won't participate.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by jkmaletic

At 68 years old, her legacy will be fine. She needs to do what she wants at this point. Not worry about what some fickle fans would think of her. I mean, I don't think there were tons of fans hating on Lindsey and Christine when they left. Disappointed at best. Did it ruin their legacy? No.

Jamie

I agree.You got a point there Jamie.Its her life.I'm not going to dictate in what she should do at this stage of her life.Again I could care less if she records with FM or not.I'm not going to bash the crap out of her if she doesn't .At this point .This album topic is sounding like a broken record."Pun Intended". The same goes with the rest of the Mac.Let them do what they want.The one thing that I'm upset with the Mac including Stevie is give up the GREED factor and charge normal or below tix prices or for free .Thats the only thing that will make me stop seeing them.My friend went to see Foreigner play for free at the local fair last Saturday.

[Macfanforever]

Let her record the way she wants it and get Dave S in there ..Her share should get done fast.If it goes the old Mac way with the bickering .It will take forever or it will never get done..

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by michelej1

For the record, I don't think calling people fickle fans is a dagger or anything. I do think that calling people here "trifling bitches" as Sorcerer999 did is a problem and no more of that is going to be allowed.

But what I wanted to point out about your quote is the difference between what is said about a member of FM and what is said about other posters. So, what if someone calls Stevie a weak link? That's not being disrespectful to anyone here.

As far as we know, FM is not on this forum. You may get insulted if a member of Fleetwood Mac is criticized, but Fleetwood Mac is not you. The fact that someone attacked a member of Fleetwood Mac is not a reason to insult the person who did. You don't have to show respect for the people in FM. You have to show respect for the people who are posting here.

Now, when you have individual forums, for Stevie, Lindsey or Chris, I try to stop trolling in those forums. I think if you go into an individual band member's forum and intensely badmouth that individual member, you're probably trying to bait his/her fans rather than state an opinion. So, we police that kind of trolling more.

But in the Rumours forum, opinions about different band members are going to clash often. If you don't like having your favorite member trashed, don't come here. Lots of people have stopped coming and that's a great thing. Go to your favorite Facebook page where band members are loved and praised. When you're here, don't think that someone has to be nice to a band member out of respect to you. People should be nice to YOU out of respect to you. That's what required.

Michele

There are many boards with policies such as this, and I've never quite completely gotten it. While I understand the general intent and purpose, there's a slight sentiment of "You have to be nice to the people who post because they are regular joes; you don't have to be nice to celebrities because their lives are better than ours so they have to pay." Cheap shots at various band members are so tedious and boring ("Stevie sounds like a goat"....OMG I never heard that one before ); I get tired of wading through posts like that to find a thoughtful critique or insightful opinion (which every now and then will come from the very same poster). I'm not bothered in the least by conflicting opinions or honest criticisms. But it's pretty easy to discern between stuff like that vs. name-calling, rude remarks, and insults (which I think are baiting no matter what forum they are in). I always try to make sure my comments are adding value to the conversations and appreciate it when others do the same. Why can't we just be respectful of everyone? Because as you say, it's only as far as we know that FM is not on this forum. If they were, we would have to be respectful to them, but they wouldn't necessarily reveal themselves. I mean, after all these years, you never found out that I'm Billy Burnette.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by MikeInNV

There are many boards with policies such as this, and I've never quite completely gotten it. While I understand the general intent and purpose, there's a slight sentiment of "You have to be nice to the people who post because they are regular joes; you don't have to be nice to celebrities because their lives are better than ours so they have to pay."

It has nothing to do with their lives. It has to do with the fact that they ARE NOT HERE. No one says you have to be nice to regular joes either. If you want to start slagging the Barista at the local coffee shop that's fine. Just as long as he's not posting here.

Michele