Will the Country World fully accept Stevie?

PenguinHead · #1 05-19-2014, 06:32 PM

Crap! Can't fix redundant error in title!

This question came to mind while I was watching the Country Music Awards show. Sheryl Crow, who was nominated for her recent country album. There appeared to to complete acceptance of her as a cross-over country artist.

I see Stevie as slightly less commercially mainstream than Sheryl, but I believe she will be equally embraced by that community. I won't be surprised if this album becomes a big deal. A smart move for Stevie.

Given her much cited early country influences, and a dozen or so of songs in her canon that- if not pure country - are heavily influenced by it, her intentions for this album seem very authentic.

Props to Dave Stewart to motivating her and showing her there are ways to record albums in a short time and concise manner.

Christine's unexpected reappearance has certainly collided with this solo suprising solo project. I hope Stevie's involvement with Fleetwood Mac's new album doesn't turn into a "Tango" situation. I have faith Stevie will carry her weight. The stakes are really high now because now they have increasingly little time to waste time. I don't think Stevie will sabatage what may be their last album.

sorcerer999 · #2 05-19-2014, 06:38 PM

I'm confused. Are you implying that 24 K Gold: Songs from the Vault is going to be a country album?

BlueDenimLamp · #3 05-19-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Crap! Can't fix redundant error in title!

This question came to mind while I was watching the Country Music Awards show. Sheryl Crow, who was nominated for her recent country album. There appeared to to complete acceptance of her as a cross-over country artist.

I see Stevie as slightly less commercially mainstream than Sheryl, but I believe she will be equally embraced by that community. I won't be surprised if this album becomes a big deal. A smart move for Stevie.

Given her much cited early country influences, and a dozen or so of songs in her canon that- if not pure country - are heavily influenced by it, her intentions for this album seem very authentic.

Props to Dave Stewart to motivating her and showing her there are ways to record albums in a short time and concise manner.

Christine's unexpected reappearance has certainly collided with this solo suprising solo project. I hope Stevie's involvement with Fleetwood Mac's new album doesn't turn into a "Tango" situation. I have faith Stevie will carry her weight. The stakes are really high now because now they have increasingly little time to waste time. I don't think Stevie will sabatage what may be their last album.

Since she is not technically releasing a "new" record and probably isn't planning on having a hit single it's quite possible some of the songs will reflect her country leanings...If Bella Donna were re-mixed or re-recorded with a few slight changes it probably would be received quite well by the country community...

Look at how well "Landslide" was received...This is from Stevie's Wikipedia page...The Dixie Chicks covered her 1975 classic "Landslide", which became a Top 10 hit (#1 on the Adult Contemporary chart) and a No.1 Hit on the Country Chart. This cover also earned her a BMI Songwriters Award in 2003 when it won "Song of the Year" (the award is given to the songwriter of the track, regardless of the performer). According to BMI, "Landslide" also earned Nicks the 35th Robert J. Burton Award as "Most Performed Country Song of the Year". This distinction is given to the song tallying the most feature US broadcast performances during the eligibility period. Included on the Dixie Chicks' platinum Monument album Home, "Landslide" was a Country, Adult Top 40, Hot 100 and AC Billboard charts smash...

If "24 Karat Gold" does well it will provide a lot of momentum for FM to build upon with the fall tour and new album...

PenguinHead · #4 05-19-2014, 07:40 PM

My assumption was that this is going to be a heavily-leaning country inspired album
I absolutely depise the dreadful title; so cliched, presumptous and pedestrian. Was any thought and effort made at all to come up with a more imaginative/unique title?
The last thing I want her to do is to rehash her old material (other than re-release her back cataglog, cleaned up and with lots of bonus material).

BlueDenimLamp · #5 05-19-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

My assumption was that this is going to be a heavily-leaning country inspired album
I absolutely depise the dreadful title; so cliched, presumptous and pedestrian. Was any thought and effort made at all to come up with a more imaginative/unique title?
The last thing I want her to do is to rehash her old material (other than re-release her back cataglog, cleaned up and with lots of bonus material).

The title might change...I have no problem with her recording a countryish album so long as Stevie stays away from the current "Nashville corporate sellout sound" and sticks to her own brand of "little country songs"...Why? Because I like her 'little country songs" and I wish she would do more of them so I'll take whatever she want's to put out...

BombaySapphire3 · #6 05-19-2014, 08:59 PM

She recorded the album in Nashville because that is where her producer's studio happens to be .There is no reason to believe that this album will be any more or less country than any of her albums.

Macfanforever · #7 05-19-2014, 09:04 PM

It would be a dream come true.I must of said that a million times on this forum.LOL.

Stevie on the Grand Ole Opry.I'll be there.

Sorry guys.I hope this up coming LP is loaded with country tunes.

Yes I dont see why not.She would be a hit if "After The Glitter Fades" was released today If she was her age when the Belladonna album was released.

As we know she will be 100 percent better what we see now on the country charts.I'm not saying this because its Stevie behind the mike.She can sing without the bells and whistles like these manufactured country artists out there now.

ATGF did peak on the country charts around 71 in 1982 as I remember.The locals did play the tune.Leather and Lace was played on the local country station at the time too.

If she wants to get on the charts.Country is the route to go.I say the same for FM too.

Her tunes probably sound too country for todays country music standards.
Today's country sounds like rock and roll.

Plus her other country flavored tunes from her solo plus FM tunes.

Yes here I go about radio again.LOl.......

With the target radio audience demographics of age 18 to 49 where the advertising bucks are plus radio dont like playing new music from older artists which I think its age discrimination .I hate to say it .They probably round file her new CD like regular formatted stations did with her IYD CD.

I'm out of that range.They dont give a rats a$$ about us old geezers and old artists that we love as we know.

http://www.slideshare.net/countrymusic/cma-research

I agree what the results with Landslide with the Chicks.It was a killer on all of the charts and Stevie enjoyed it too.

Bandon · #8 05-19-2014, 09:20 PM

After the Glitter Fades would have done better on the charts in 1982 but Fm released Hold Me and ATGF fell.

BlueDenimLamp · #9 05-19-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever

It would be a dream come true.I must of said that a million times on this forum.LOL.

1.Stevie on the Grand Ole Opry.I'll be there.

Sorry guys.I hope this up coming LP is loaded with country tunes.

2. Yes I dont see why not.She would be a hit if "After The Glitter Fades" was released today If she was her age when the Belladonna album was released.

As we know she will be 100 percent better what we see now on the country charts.I'm not saying this because its Stevie behind the mike.She can sing without the bells and whistles like these manufactured country artists out there now.

ATGF did peak on the country charts around 71 in 1982 as I remember.The locals did play the tune.Leather and Lace was played on the local country station at the time too.

If she wants to get on the charts.Country is the route to go.I say the same for FM too.

Her tunes probably sound too country for todays country music standards.
Today's country sounds like rock and roll.

Plus her other country flavored tunes from her solo plus FM tunes.

Yes here I go about radio again.LOl.......

With the target radio audience demographics of age 18 to 49 where the advertising bucks are plus radio dont like playing new music from older artists which I think its age discrimination .I hate to say it .They probably round file her new CD like regular formatted stations did with her IYD CD.

I'm out of that range.They dont give a rats a$$ about us old geezers and old artists that we love as we know.

http://www.slideshare.net/countrymusic/cma-research

3. I agree what the results with Landslide with the Chicks.It was a killer on all of the charts and Stevie enjoyed it too.

1. Again Stevie needs to stay away from the current country schlock and that includes the "Opry"...But she should do a show at the Ryman like Neil Young did and put it put out on DVD...

2. Like I said if Bella Donna were to be re-mixed to give it a little more of a country sound than it already has I think it would do well if re-released...Or and I hate to even think of this happening with Bella Donna...There were to be one of those ghastly country tribute records where the trendy country stars cover a iconic record (Thank goodness the country "Rumours" tribute record never got finished)...Even though I dislike the concept of a Bella Donna country tribute I think it would sell well...

3. Yes and how many awards and millions of dollars did that bring Stevie...

WatchChain · #10 05-19-2014, 09:45 PM

Several of Stevie's compositions are essentially just country songs. I've ALWAYS thought of her as a country singer. Yes, she can "rock a little" at times, but at her root, she's just a "dance hall girl" singing in front of a steel guitar and mandolin. My favorite Stevie Nicks Country songs are:

After the Glitter Fades
Rose Garden
Landslide
Silver Springs
Angel
That's Alright
Garbo
Sleeping Angel
For What It's Worth
Too Far From Texas
Leather & Lace

WatchChain · #11 05-19-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

She recorded the album in Nashville because that is where her producer's studio happens to be .There is no reason to believe that this album will be any more or less country than any of her albums.

I agree. Dave Steward's Blackbird Studios just happens to be in Nashville. I have no reason to think that Stevie is necessarily recording a country album. I certainly don't think it will be marketed to mainstream pop/country radio.

BombaySapphire3 · #12 05-19-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain

I agree. Dave Steward's Blackbird Studios just happens to be in Nashville. I have no reason to think that Stevie is necessarily recording a country album. I certainly don't think it will be marketed to mainstream pop/country radio.

Right.. it is an album full of songs that she wrote for the most part decades ago which Dave has already referred to as "classic Stevie Nicks"Sure there will be some country elements ..that is part of her sound but I don't expect anything to sound as if it is geared toward current country radio..and that is a very good thing.

sorcerer999 · #13 05-19-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain

I agree. Dave Steward's Blackbird Studios just happens to be in Nashville. I have no reason to think that Stevie is necessarily recording a country album. I certainly don't think it will be marketed to mainstream pop/country radio.

Blackbird Studios is owned and was created by producer, John McBride, Martina's husband. He and Dave are really close and that's why Dave records all this stuff there.

I've lived in Nashville all my life ~ Even though country is still very much alive here, it has become more of an Indie/Americana/Prog Rock kind of town. Especially in the last 10 years.

Talented session players are EVERYWHERE ~ I'm sure that's why they were able to record quickly. I don't think, other than Waddy, that Stevie had her usual "Studio Posse" with her this time around. I think it was just the three of them (perhaps Christine?) and a slew of kick ass session players.

I also don't think this is going to be a country album. I can see her having the usual one or two country songs on the album, but I think it's gonna be your typical Stevie record.

BombaySapphire3 · #14 05-19-2014, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandon

After the Glitter Fades would have done better on the charts in 1982 but Fm released Hold Me and ATGF fell.

You aren't kidding,, I remember looking at Billboard the week Hold Me debuted on the Hot 100 singles chart at #33 ATGF was right above it at #32 that week,..then promptly dropped off the chart as Hold Me continued to rise.

Macfanforever · #15 05-20-2014, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

1. Again Stevie needs to stay away from the current country schlock and that includes the "Opry"...But she should do a show at the Ryman like Neil Young did and put it put out on DVD...

2. Like I said if Bella Donna were to be re-mixed to give it a little more of a country sound than it already has I think it would do well if re-released...Or and I hate to even think of this happening with Bella Donna...There were to be one of those ghastly country tribute records where the trendy country stars cover a iconic record (Thank goodness the country "Rumours" tribute record never got finished)...Even though I dislike the concept of a Bella Donna country tribute I think it would sell well...

3. Yes and how many awards and millions of dollars did that bring Stevie...

Yes I do agree about the current schlock of country artists.Stevie likes hanging with the young crowd of any music artists.I wish she can teach them to sing and write the right way. I'm not a fan of todays generation of so called country music.I rather hear the classics from the 1920's to 1980's with a dash of the 1990's.

Probably Lady A is one of the only current country bands that I follow.

Yes I love to see a country tribute of Belladonna But from older country artists.
That why I made the comment on todays manufactured country artists.I dont see any country in them.

I was wondering about the Rumours country tribute.That sucks that it did not get up and going.Maybe Dave could give it a jump start.

Get Paulette Carlson She would do great with Stevie song .She looks like Stevie and sounds like Stevie.Wynonna could do a kicka$$ cover of Stevie's tunes.

As I remembered .My friend complained that IYD did not rock for him and he said there is no meat on it and it could pass as a country or easy listening music.He hates country but love FM and Stevie's older tunes.