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Old 02-01-2013, 07:17 PM
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We of course don't have all the lyrics, but to me it seems like Stevie is saying she DID dance with the devil. "We don't talk much about it, it goes back so many years, all the times we almost didn't make it..." sounds to me like her godson's overdose really made her realize how close they all actually were. "We made a pact not to dance with the devil" seems like she is talking about how naive they were and that even tho they didn't do heroin they were still dancing with the devil. They thought cocaine was okay because it wasn't heroin and I'm sure Glen thought prescription drugs and alcohol were okay since they weren't cocaine. Glen didn't overdose on heroin and I just think this song is Stevie's blunt realization that if prescription drugs and alcohol could take him out, cocaine and Klonopin could have taken her out at any time. Of course we really need the whole song to jump to any conclusions, but that just my opinion.
I would agree, you could definitely interpret it that way based just on the song lyrics... but right before the song starts she says: "In our day, we made a pact not to dance with the devil. We did a lot of other things but we never danced with the devil. Unfortunately, this little boy danced with the devil."

Which implies (or rather, pretty plainly states) that though they did a lot of sh*t, they never ____ [whatever 'dancing with the devil' means] and sadly the boy did and that's what caused his downfall. At least, that's how I would read that statement.

I just have to wonder what the distinction is between the two parties.
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I would agree, you could definitely interpret it that way based just on the song lyrics... but right before the song starts she says: "In our day, we made a pact not to dance with the devil. We did a lot of other things but we never danced with the devil. Unfortunately, this little boy danced with the devil."

Which implies (or rather, pretty plainly states) that though they did a lot of sh*t, they never ____ [whatever 'dancing with the devil' means] and sadly the boy did and that's what caused his downfall. At least, that's how I would read that statement.
I agree. She is sorta stating that he did something worse then they did.
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Which implies (or rather, pretty plainly states) that though they did a lot of sh*t, they never ____ [whatever 'dancing with the devil' means] and sadly the boy did and that's what caused his downfall. At least, that's how I would read that statement.
If Parrish, Sr. was testing Stevie's prescriptions for her, to make sure they were "safe" before she took them, then I'd say he danced with the devil.

But I guess even if you're a drug addict, you have more maturity than a hazing frat boy and are less likely to combine physical dares and risks with the substance consumption.

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While I'm curious as to what this dancing with the devil is referring to and how they never invited the devil to the party, I feel so far to much focus is on the meaning and not how much the song kicks ass.
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I would agree, you could definitely interpret it that way based just on the song lyrics... but right before the song starts she says: "In our day, we made a pact not to dance with the devil. We did a lot of other things but we never danced with the devil. Unfortunately, this little boy danced with the devil."

Which implies (or rather, pretty plainly states) that though they did a lot of sh*t, they never ____ [whatever 'dancing with the devil' means] and sadly the boy did and that's what caused his downfall. At least, that's how I would read that statement.

I just have to wonder what the distinction is between the two parties.
Oh I had just seen the documentary, I didn't see the video from last night. Interesting!
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Having dealt with 2 heroin addicted siblings, my guess is that's what she means. The devil being death maybe.

Stevie Nicks Says Fleetwood Mac Never Became Heroin Junkies
10/18/07

Stevie Nicks says that although Fleetwood Mac was notorious for their drug use both on the road and in the studio, the band members all drew the line with heroin. Nicks told Britain's The Independent, "It was a party. Everyone was partying. It was dangerous, but it was fun. They were fantastic, tragic times... None of us ever did heroin. Right there, that's why we are alive. We were careful -- we didn't die. But we could have."

Nicks went on to say that new artists lack the support and structure of major record labels to become formidable live acts: "New artists can't do what we do -- they don't get the support from their record companies. We just stayed on the road. We've done it so long we could be half dead and still do a great show with one day of rehearsal."

Earlier this year, Nicks released a solo retrospective called Crystal Visions - The Very Best Of Stevie Nicks.

Last month Nicks was inducted into the Arizona Music and Entertainment Hall of Fame at the Dodge Theatre in Phoenix.

Stevie Nicks will perform tomorrow night (October 19th) in Rosemont, Illinois at the Rosemont Theatre.


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Old 02-01-2013, 09:54 PM
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If I recall, Glen Jr had been in rehab at some point in his life. Perhaps he'd had a problem with heroin? And while that isn't what ultimately killed him, Stevie may have still made the connection between his tragic death and "dancing with the devil" (using heroin).
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If I recall, Glen Jr had been in rehab at some point in his life. Perhaps he'd had a problem with heroin? And while that isn't what ultimately killed him, Stevie may have still made the connection between his tragic death and "dancing with the devil" (using heroin).
It's also possible that heroin caused his death and it just wasn't released to the public. The autopsy hadn't been performed yet when they were saying prescription drugs + booze, according to the article I found.

Don't want to speculate too much, of course. Just interested in the meaning behind the song. It's a very sad story all around.
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I'm really liking this song and the intensity she brought to it..I would be interested to see her do more work with Dave Grohl.
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Seems like a pretty straightforward song to me.
She's talking about heroin. "Dancing with the devil" is using heroin. Stevie's always said that heroin was the one drug that was always off-limits. . . That's sort of what Stevie is saying in her intro and in the song ("never allowed the devil to come to the party").

The brutality of the subject is very evident in the complete construction of the song, especially Stevie's vocal--I can appreciate the song for that reason. . . I just can't say I particularly like it. Not a fan of Stevie's lower register these days.
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Thanks for posting, Josh!! Wow, this is even more powerful than I expected. Stevie sounded fantastic -- although she was drowned out by the music in some places.
Cannot wait to hear the studio version!
The acoustics seem to me to be completely awful! The song is very powerful, but there were a lot of times I couldn't hear her over the music. Seems like it's not just a Stevie solo problem!
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Hmm.

I am assuming that Grohl wrote this music. If so, she needs to work with him more. I really like this snaky vibe. This is some of the best backing music she has had in ages. I like it better than much of IYD.

It starts out really strong, and I like the verses. The chorus is an odd kind of anti-chorus. From the music I was expecting some kind of crashing upswing then the melody goes flat. Not sure how I feel about that. It doesn't move. I like the ending, but ultimately my impression is that melody wise it doesn't deliver. And some of those words are clunky. The meter is all off. I keep expecting some clever or inventive "poetry" like wordplay and creativity and Stevie does not stretch much with that anymore. Not a lot of effort is expended with using unexpected words or allusion. Ah well.

I enjoyed it and am curious to hear the studio version.
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On the other hand....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UML3rlQ2r9s

Best GDW since 81 at The Roxy with Bob Welch.

Just ditch the FM tour. Take the Foo Fighters on the road as a backing band.
I wouldn't pay 50 bucks to see the Fleetwood Mac tour and I would pay 500 or more to see her tour with this backing band. I should have just driven the 15 minutes to see this last night and bought a scalper seat. Damn.

This is stunningly good. Epic. There just aren't enough words for it.

If this is what Dave Grohl does for her than screw Dave Stewart. Make the next solo record with this guy and this band.
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i hope none of the people LOVING this are the ones saying FM should tour with ONLY the 5 players. There's 3 guitarists, two bassists , and a string player.... how could FM capyure THAT sound???
though i am of the "more is more" school.. i LOVE it.
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Wow, this sounds like classic Fleetwood Mac. They did an amazing job with the arrangement.

I tried to make out the lyrics but there's part of the chorus that I just can't seem to grasp:

We don't talk much about it
It goes back so many years
All the times we almost didn't make it
We stayed clear

Dancing with the devil
Call it respect, call it fear
But we never allowed the devil
To come to the party

We were careful in our way
Walked through the darkness
We made a pact not to dance with the devil
Even when the devil seemed to have a heart

He said we'd never be sorry for what we'd done

But we never allowed the devil to come to the party

You can't fix this, you lost a friend
Hearts breaking right and left
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And the devil pours another glass

It's so easy

The devil pours a glass of champagne
ASks someone new to dance
It's so easy to ruin peoples lives
He twirls around and starts to laugh

Tear up the invitation
Hear the bells ring on the hour
He twirls around and he laughs

You said we'd never be sorry for what we'd done
But we never allowed the devil to come to the party

You can't fix this, you lost a friend
Hearts breaking right and left
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And the devil pours another glass

No we never allowed the devil to come party
We said that we would never be sorry
For what we'd done

Never come to the party
If you think you won't come home

Never dance with the devil
He will burn you down
Never dance with the devil
He will burn you down
Never dance with the devil
He will burn you down

You can't fix this
You can't fix this
I heard the studio version of this twice today and I'm pretty sure the part you can't make out goes, "friends just break like glass" but I'd have to listen to it again because in the live version it sounds like she says, "friends SHOULDN'T break like THAT/GLASS" so we shall see.
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