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Old 06-06-2012, 01:13 AM
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How can anyone say that Stevie Nicks' career is over? Apart from Adele and few other exeptions no one really gains much profits from selling music in today's times. Bruce Springsteen's latest album has yet to be certified Gold. What about Madonna's "MDNA"? It looks like it spent less weeks in Top 100 than "In You Dreams". Even Rihanna's latest effort sold considerably less than her "Loud" album even with 11-weeks or so-# lead single. If Stevie wants to be successful again then I guess she will have to record an album in Lionel Richie's "Tuskgee" vein.
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:24 AM
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How can anyone say that Stevie Nicks' career is over? Apart from Adele and few other exeptions no one really gains much profits from selling music in today's times. Bruce Springsteen's latest album has yet to be certified Gold. What about Madonna's "MDNA"? It looks like it spent less weeks in Top 100 than "In You Dreams". Even Rihanna's latest effort sold considerably less than her "Loud" album even with 11-weeks or so-# lead single. If Stevie wants to be successful again then I guess she will have to record an album in Lionel Richie's "Tuskgee" vein.
But it still sold a whopping 359,000 copies its opening week and debuted at #1!
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:48 AM
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:02 AM
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Madonna's MDNA was inflated its first week because of the push for you to preorder it to secure presale tickets to her concert tour this summer...which was a really smart idea. However, after its first week debut it had the biggest drop off in Billboard history...
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:12 AM
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With ‘IYD’ being a year old now, Stevie needs to bring something fresh and different to the table.

I saw the ‘IYD’ tour in Saratoga Springs, NY last year, and even though I am going to the Boston show in July, I’m less excited than I should be as it’ll just be déjà-vu.

2013 will be the 40th anniversary of ‘Buckingham Nicks’. The album should be remastered and rereleased, with some new tunes thrown it. Stevie and Linds should then tour together.

It’ll be a lost opportunity if they don’t. It's just ridiculous that the two of them have been talking about putting 'BN' on CD for over 20 years, but nothing happens.
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:38 AM
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I see age discrimination in the music biz.The industry focused to the teens to 25 to 30 bracket for artists and people who buy music.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:42 AM
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Madonna's MDNA was inflated its first week because of the push for you to preorder it to secure presale tickets to her concert tour this summer...which was a really smart idea. However, after its first week debut it had the biggest drop off in Billboard history...
Let's break down Madonna's MDNA era numbers:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1507571.html
-$240 million in PRE-SALE concert ticket sales (Madonna takes 95% after expenses per her Live Nation deal and the woman works well with budgets.)

-$70 million in merchandise sales (Madonna takes 70% per her Live Nation deal)

-$60 million in perfume sales from Truth or Dare scent (Madonna most likely takes about 5-6% of the gross)

-$10 sponsorship from Smirnoff (helps pay for tour costs)
-$5 million profit from Material Girl clothing line

My guess is that MDNA's sales are hardly keeping Madonna up at night.
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Let's break down Madonna's MDNA era numbers:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1507571.html
-$240 million in PRE-SALE concert ticket sales (Madonna takes 95% after expenses per her Live Nation deal and the woman works well with budgets.)

-$70 million in merchandise sales (Madonna takes 70% per her Live Nation deal)

-$60 million in perfume sales from Truth or Dare scent (Madonna most likely takes about 5-6% of the gross)

-$10 sponsorship from Smirnoff (helps pay for tour costs)
-$5 million profit from Material Girl clothing line

My guess is that MDNA's sales are hardly keeping Madonna up at night.

Not that Stevie is making Madonna money, but I also doubt Stevie's sales are keeping her up at night either. She obviously makes her big $$ touring.
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My point wasn't that Madonna doesn't know how to market herself, I'm a fan and know she's brilliant with that. My point was the album did not blow sales out of the water, and she probably doesn't care since anytime she tours she guarantees mega money regardless. It was just that without the album presales to buy concert tickets it highly disappointed analysts.
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I see Lionel Richie's new country CD Tuskegee is doing great according to Billboard.It was released on March 26 .Now is at number 6 on the album charts.RIAA Platinum as of May 3rd .

I wonder what happen with Stevie's.

Lionel is only 2 years younger then Stevie.

Maybe its times for a change for Stevie.
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I see Lionel Richie's new country CD Tuskegee is doing great according to Billboard...

I wonder what happen with Stevie's.

Lionel is only 2 years younger then Stevie.

I think if Stevie would have did the pairing up thing
with all those Country Music stars, she would have
had a great success too. That was Lionel's only hope,
and it paid off big time.
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i dunno, so many musicians speak of their "artistic integrity". maybe Stevie has chosen to keep hers and not sell out to move product. i agree that country wouldn't be much of a stretch for her, but the callow pairings on LR's record don't seem like it's in her. i mean, the bulk of her collaborations have been with kindred spirits. (kookie, raspy Macy Gray; rocker/worshipper Sheryl Crow; Tom Petty) i don;t think she's comfy arbitrarily pairong up with people (witness her discomfort with the Bon Jovi thing)
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I see Lionel Richie's new country CD Tuskegee is doing great according to Billboard.It was released on March 26 .Now is at number 6 on the album charts.RIAA Platinum as of May 3rd .

I wonder what happen with Stevie's.

Lionel is only 2 years younger then Stevie.

Maybe its times for a change for Stevie.
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I think if Stevie would have did the pairing up thing
with all those Country Music stars, she would have
had a great success too. That was Lionel's only hope,
and it paid off big time.
Not only did he team up with a bunch of country stars, but all the songs are reinterpretations of his previous songs. I'm sure Stevie could team up with a bunch of popular singers and rerecord Edge of Seventeen, Dreams, Gypsy, etc and sell a million copies, but I think that would be the last thing any of us fans would want. Lionel's last solo album of NEW material was released in 2009 and has sold a total of 95,000 copies and it featured Akon and Ne-Yo!
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So IYD has old, what, close to 200K now?
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:46 AM
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Lionel Richies Tuskegee has done so well because it's being marketed to a country audience which in generally an older buying public. Country albums continue to be the top selling genre. This is why so many former rock/pop stars are "going country", they get their songs played on radio and they get to sell some albums. The ironic thing is if your a classic country artist, you cant give your latest album away and radio won't touch it. Country radio today sounds more like the rock stations of the '80's.
By the way, Lionel's album is pretty damn good. As someone suggested, have Stevie team up with today's country stars, redo her on hits as duets and she will get a#1 album on the country charts and a long lingering top five hit on the pop charts. It's almost guaranteed.
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