Help w/ Herb Worthington Photos ?

[mercvaporphoto]

Hello folks.

My name is Mike. I'm a bookseller in Southern California and we recently acquired a portion of Herb Worthington's photographic effects from his Estate.

Among his things are some amazing photos, a couple of which we'd like some help with. We've posted them below. The photos are watermarked to preserve the commercial viability of the images as was suggested by Ledge admin.

1) The first photo is a 16 x 20 outtake print from the shoot for the 'White Album'. It shows Mick and John in the familiar setup except Mick is not drinking from a glass, he's smiling and looking forward. We haven't been able to find this image anywhere online. Has anyone seen it elsewhere ? We could find no other outtakes for the 'White Album' like we can for 'Rumours' and others.

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2) This second photo is an 11 x 14 print of the entire post Buckingham / Nicks FM but what makes this photo interesting amongst the 100's of other FM group shots is this one is stamped on the reverse 'Herbert W. Worthington Photographist Feb 11 1975'. Since Lindsey & Stevie joined the band only 43 days prior (New Years Eve 74'), could this possibly be the earliest photo of the band as we know them today ? I'm attempting to prove myself wrong, but haven't been able to find another photo documented or proved to pre-date this image for these 5 members. Is there anything else about the image (hair, clothes, that suggests this image is later than 2/1975 ? Please think hard about EARLY FM images you've seen in books, online or elsewhere.





Thanks for any help you guys can provide. We have several more interesting photos we may post, but these are the first that have us scratching our heads a bit.

Mike -

[sleepless child]

Wow! this is pretty amazing.

[Sanne2]

There are a few outtakes from the white album, they were actually printed in the booklet of the 2004 remastered re-issue of the 1975 album, you can see 4 of the scans on my blog here: http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/pos...-outtakes-1975

And I do believe the second photo is part of the first photoshoot of the then new line-up of the band, that's the only photoshoot where Stevie's hair is still curly. There are several similar shots published, like these: http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/post/72753689238#notes, http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/post/38802824710#notes and WB Records used one of the shots for a promotional poster: http://imgur.com/XwDAqUb
I would love to see some other pics from Herbie's estate!

[mercvaporphoto]

Wow Sanne2....Thanks!

I knew asking here would yield answers. You guys are truly 'encyclopedic' w/ respect to FM!

Thanks for the sources on those shots. We couldn't find them anywhere.

I'll post a few more nuggets we were fortunate to get. We're a bit unclear on dates for these, except for the large contact sheet which I think appeared on the 'Rumours' album.

1) A whispy, filtered 'glamour shot' type image of Lindsey and Stevie. (11x 14) Why this was made is beyond me. It has romantic overtones, and doesn't seem likely. Not sure what Herbie was going for here ???



2) Here's a candid shot of Mick and ??? holding a pencil.



3) A nice 16 x 20 of the group I've seen before, just not sure where. A very nice shot with all in good spirits.



4) A contact sheet from that shot that I've seen a billion times, but don't know where it was taken. It looks like backstage on tour somewhere. It's interesting to see the progression of people coming in and out of the shot. Herbie just stood there and kept shooting. (we're furiously looking for the negatives that made this contact sheet)



5) This is the large (16 x 20 ) contact sheet of the group in a candid situation that I believe ended up on the Rumors album.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by mercvaporphoto

1) A whispy, filtered 'glamour shot' type image of Lindsey and Stevie. (11x 14) Why this was made is beyond me. It has romantic overtones, and doesn't seem likely. Not sure what Herbie was going for here ???

That actually appears to be Carol Ann Harris- Lindsey's girlfriend after Stevie. She met Lindsey while the band was recording Rumours, and she appears in liner photos for both Rumours & Tusk. She wrote a book about her time spent around the band several years back. I can't remember if this particular picture is in her book or not.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by mercvaporphoto

2) Here's a candid shot of Mick and ??? holding a pencil.

This is Jenny Boyd Fleetwood, one of Mick's wives. She's Patty Boyd's sister- the British model whose affair with Eric Clapton while dating George Harrison is chronicled in the Derek & The Dominoes song Layla. Jenny Fleetwood also published her own book.

[Sanne2]

I'm so glad I can help! And I love to see these rare pics!
1) This is not Stevie! It's Lindsey's girlfriend at the time, Carol Ann Harris (they do look alike), so that explains the romantic overtones. Lindsey and Carol dated from 1976 untill 1983 but based on Lindsey's facial hair I would say this photo is from 1976 or 1977.

2) the girl with Mick is his wife at-the-time Jenny Boyd (model and sister of Patti Boyd, famous wife of George Harrison and later Eric Clapton). I think the photo is from 1976 or thereabouts. I have a screencap of this photo (http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/pos...nny-boyd#notes) so it was probably used in some documentary, I can't remember which one, maybe Fleetwood Mac: Behind The Music or The Mick Fleetwood Story?

3) this is from that same photoshoot from February 1975, it is used for the 2004 re-issue of the 1975 album and has since been published in several magazines.

4) indeed some variations of a shot that's been used a million times (2nd row, far left on the contact sheet). It's backstage during the 1976 tour and the tall blonde guy that can bee seen in a couple of the frames is John Courage, their tour manager.

5) yes, these shots ended up on the back of the Rumours album.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by mercvaporphoto

5) This is the large (16 x 20 ) contact sheet of the group in a candid situation that I believe ended up on the Rumors album.

If you watch The Making Of Rumours documentary from 1998, Herbert states these particular procession of pictures held the most meaning to him. He felt they captured a candid & unscripted moment of love between the band. These pictures are on the back of the Rumours album.

[Danigirl]

http://bigozine3.com/rarities/?m=200710
Same shoot?

[HelloMonster]

Originally Posted by mercvaporphoto

How does his hair smell, Carol Ann? Not that I blame her, but isn't that Lindsey's thing?

[bsavi4]

Originally Posted by Sanne2

There are a few outtakes from the white album, they were actually printed in the booklet of the 2004 remastered re-issue of the 1975 album, you can see 4 of the scans on my blog here: http://goldduststevie.tumblr.com/pos...-outtakes-1975

Sorry to comment on such an old thread but I couldn't find this anywhere else. Sanne2, do you happen to have higher quality scans of the white album cover outtakes? That's my favorite cover and I would love to get a better look at those outtakes. They don't seem to be anywhere else online. Thanks for all of your contributions!

--Brett

[mercvaporphoto]

Alright folks more photos to share before I list them on Ebay (bibliomonster) ....Several candids; some of which I could use some help with.


1) This looks like a cool and possibly candid post rehearsal shot of the group. If this appeared anywhere else, please do tell.



2) What seems to be a planned studio shot. However, I haven't seen it before. Not sure this iteration would have been used with a ciggy hanging from John's mouth.




3) A studio shot of blocks spelling out the group name and their faces....cool concept.




4) The group with what looks like Stevie's parents.




5) Mick taking a break.....That scenery is a backdrop.



6) Ok....one I need some help with....Who are these people with Christine ??
The Asian man looks sorta familiar, but the woman I can't place. Also NOTICE CHRISTINE HOLDING BOTH A CIGARETTE AND A JOINT....The joint the other woman took from the Asian man in a previous shot.







7) Mick with an unknown man and woman ??? Can anyone ID these folks ? Herbie printed this 16 x 20 so I'm thinking they're important if not friends.



8) Stevie, Christine and ????

[lovethemac1]

7) Mick with an unknown man and woman ??? Can anyone ID these folks ? Herbie printed this 16 x 20 so I'm thinking they're important if not friends.



I could be wrong, but this guy looks like the tech who helped in the recording studio during Rumours.................?????????? Can't think of his name offhand, would have to pull out Ken's book.

Was his name Chris?

[mercvaporphoto]

Yeah....that's Cris Morris who was the Plant's asst. engineer and along with Nina Urban ran things there with his wife Wendy (who appears in another photo we had with her). His photo appears on p. 26 of 'Making Rumours'.

A blogger ID'd him already, but thanks.

I believe the only unidentified people are the folks smokin with Christine.

Thanks anyway.

[becca]

Could it be Ben Fong-Torres of Rolling Stone magazine with Chris?