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Originally Posted by elle
but see, although i agree with you that tastes are different, and very much so in FM world with so many different songwriters (and i especially appreciate that you came over to LB board to discuss this!), i think some songs are objectively weak, while others are objectively strong, regardless of whether one likes them.
i can appreciate that Red Rover or Murrow are not everybody's cup of tea, that they may be too frantic, too rocking, too much guitar for someone's taste, or whatever problem you have with them. but objectively those are strong songs. so that's where i make a distinction. some songs may be weak, but you or i may love them regardless, for whatever reason (Silver Girls comes to mind  . others may be strong, but you or i may dislike them. |
I was thinking that very thing. I'm glad you pointed out the distinction. Red Rover and Murrow are hardly weak songs, just because someone doesn't like, get, or appreciate them.
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Originally Posted by secret love
I actually am a lyricist. And I simply cannot say that the lyrics to Red Rover are objectively strong because I would be lying to myself.
Lindsey does not seem to have the skill to write lyrics which are accessible to the average listener, whilst remaining opaque
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Objectively, I think they're great, and the links Elle pointed out, above, show that plenty of people not only like, but take different meaning from, those lyrics. Again, just because they're not for everyone, doesn't make them objectively bad.
I also think Lindsey's perfectly capable of writing accessible lyrics. I just think he prefers not to...that is, if he even thinks about it at all.
He writes what he wants to write. He usually writes the music first, so of course, he's not walking around with lyrics running through his brain day and night, but when he sets down to finally add lyrics to his music, I have no doubt he can go in any direction he feels, and I very much doubt that the first thing that he thinks is gee, how can I make this accessible? Or, gee, I sure hope this appeals to the masses
Besides, lyrics can be accessible to a smaller audience, right?