Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1137782)

At this latter stage in their careers, Stevie and Lindsey will be part of Fleetwood Mac until the end. They maintain a healthy creative tension between the two of them

Originally Posted by Bandon (Post 1137833)

I think there could be tensions if the Dave produced version of "Twisted" is great. Oh..and a hit single. :nod::nod::nod:

Originally Posted by Iamwilliame (Post 1137908)

I'll be shocked if a new album ever gets made with Stevie's involvement. I just don't think her heart is in it. The only reason I think she chose to tour is because of Christine and, of course, John's health and the possibility that time is running out for this full lineup. Some Lindsey and Christine tracks will probably turn up on another compilation to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Rumours lineup. Stevie might add some backing vocals and donate a song from the vault produced by Dave. It wouldn't surprise me if she officially left the band after next year.

Originally Posted by Danigirl (Post 1137943)

I'm hoping Dave has NOTHING to do with anything FM related. That album would sound like a few Solo Stevie songs sprinkled with Lindsey and Chris. Dave has a very simple way of arranging Stevie's demos, which are fine for a solo album showcasing Stevie in all her glory. A FM record, on the other hand, is the intermingling of every member, I would like to hear that.

The tension, I'm afraid, is gone. It's there, at a visceral level. No one is allowing others "under the skin" anymore. Saddens me to think those days have passed.

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1137867)

ha, i forgot about Twisted when talking about creativity together! i guess that may be the more recent example. i love Stevie/Lindsey version of Twisted, while Stevie solo one i found boring.

although, not sure i understand how the possible success of yet another Stevie's solo version of Twisted, without LB's involvement, would make any tensions between them in FM creative?

Originally Posted by LB Freakazoid (Post 1137953)

Wow... I'm kinda surprised at what's been said here...

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1137825)

so where is that supposed creative tension in the last 30+ years and is it really still healthy or helpful? Stevie has been pretty adamant that she doesn't need or like tension in order to create anymore, while describing how great making of IYD was since there was no tension between her and her collaborators.

meanwhile, FM album has been on hold since 2010. it was started and aborted in 2012, and then again worked on in 2014 with the addition of Christine, and is now again on back burner waiting. so how is the tension creative?? no new album for 10+ years doesn't seem very creative to me. :shrug:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1137825)

looking at pretty amazing charting (and trending on FB, she's almost unavoidable all of the sudden!) of SN's upcoming album preorders, i asked in one of the other threads whether if hugely successful she might be tempted to go exclusively solo.

this response in particular i found thought-provoking:


do we really think their tension is still creative at this point? or has any lingering "tension" become more arresting to any creative growth FM might still have?


right now, with numerous oldies tours and without an album in the last decade, FM seems to be just the means of capitalizing on their past glories and grabbing tons of money for its members... not the creative outlet. can it be that the last instance of creative tension in FM was actually in the early 80s, during Mirage era? Tango was mostly created by Christine and Lindsey with very little participation from Stevie, and Christine and Lindsey seem to complement each other ending in more of a creative synergy than tension, and their recent interviews seem to attest to that synergy being still strong and highly creative.

the last album rumours-era FM released was SYW, and various fans (and SN herself, i believe?) have argued not only that the tension was not healthy or creative but that it was instead counter-productive - that Lindsey's songs were better in their original GOS shape without adding Stevie on them, and that Stevie's songs were better as demos, without Lindsey's contributions to them. and then there was their most recent output - EP, on which there was no creative tension considering Stevie was mostly absent from it, and contributed one song from 1974 which has been also argued by fans that is worse on the EP than the original demo.

so where is that supposed creative tension in the last 30+ years and is it really still healthy or helpful? Stevie has been pretty adamant that she doesn't need or like tension in order to create anymore, while describing how great making of IYD was since there was no tension between her and her collaborators.

meanwhile, FM album has been on hold since 2010. it was started and aborted in 2012, and then again worked on in 2014 with the addition of Christine, and is now again on back burner waiting. so how is the tension creative?? no new album for 10+ years doesn't seem very creative to me. :shrug:

Originally Posted by He's So Unusual (Post 1137999)

But she sure loves talking about it. Personally, I'm bored rigid of hearing about the tension in Fleetwood Mac, new and old. They need to put up or shut up. Release a new album or shelve it and finally call it quits after the current tour, just don't drag the whole thing out to make yet another soap opera. It's been 11 years since Say You Will, the band have had enough time and opportunity to make another Fleetwood Mac album in the last 10 years, several in fact, they just couldn't get over their bullsh!t and do it, the band was simply left to stagnate for a good decade. Lindsey Buckingham released a few solo albums between 2006 and 2012 but there were still gaps when the group could have come back together to record new music. And it's not like Stevie was busy in the studio between 2001 and 2011, she spent most of the time touring the same set list year in and year out. The band needs to make the most of this current resurgence in their music by riding the wave instead of wasting it like they did The Dance by waiting so long to record another album.

The band focuses far too much on the past when they really need to concentrate on the present. Surely they're all old enough to put aside their differences in order to make another stellar album to cap off a long and great career? I'm not sure if I'm alone in thinking this, but I think a lot of the so-called tension is merely a show nowadays that's put on because of a select few in their fan base who strive for the drama on and off stage.