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BLY 11-07-2014 10:22 PM

2015 Fleetwood Mac Album
 
So, I think we should all assume the new album will drop in 2015. Do you think it will be a 15- 17 track single disc or a double disc with 18-24 tracks. I'm sure this will be their last studio album and if Stevie brings in 5 to 6 songs we are looking at a double disc. Mick, John and Lindsey have done a lot of recording over the last couple of years that I hope all see the day of light. If not it will end up on a Lindsey solo album. I'm hoping its a double disc that will give us a great swan song from these fabulous 5 musicians.

Thoughts?

SteveMacD 11-07-2014 10:59 PM

That may be optimistic. But I'd rather see two separate albums then one double album.

WatchChain 11-07-2014 11:01 PM

The album will most definitely NOT be a double disc. With the conflict that went into making "Say You Will" a double album, I'm quite sure it won't happen again. I expect the new Fleetwood Mac album to be about 14 songs, with 5 each from Christine and Lindsey. Stevie will bring in another 4 songs to round out the set.

jbrownsjr 11-07-2014 11:30 PM

The more Buckingham/McVie, the better.

Macfanforever 11-07-2014 11:42 PM

I wonder how many more albums FM owes WB Records.

I dont know where they or Stevie will find time in 2015 to finish up the new album but it would be great if it comes out while they are still touring.

It should not take Stevie long to slap 4 to 5 songs together and sing some backup oohs and aaahs on some of the other tune tracks .We see how fast she put 24K together.Lets hope the same thing happens with the new FM collection.

Maybe they will add some new tunes on the second leg of the tour.

PenguinHead 11-08-2014 12:28 AM

Assumptions galore! We can speculate all we want to suit our wants and needs. But we'll never know until there is official confirmation.

Stevie's requisite contribution to a Fleetwood Mac album is traditionally three songs. It would be nice if the new album had four of her own songs. Christine typically has as least four songs, and Lindsey fills out the rest. I hope they record enough material for a robust 13 to 15 songs. Bonus tracks are always welcome!

Iamwilliame 11-08-2014 05:44 PM

Still have doubts it will ever happen. I'm speculating these tracks will end up scattered between another best of compilation and a Lindsey Buckinham solo album.

jwd 11-08-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1152623)
So, I think we should all assume the new album will drop in 2015. Do you think it will be a 15- 17 track single disc or a double disc with 18-24 tracks. I'm sure this will be their last studio album and if Stevie brings in 5 to 6 songs we are looking at a double disc. Mick, John and Lindsey have done a lot of recording over the last couple of years that I hope all see the day of light. If not it will end up on a Lindsey solo album. I'm hoping its a double disc that will give us a great swan song from these fabulous 5 musicians.

Thoughts?

I think a single disc dropping about Christmas next year. I don't like the idea of swan song though, especially concerning FM. When it ends, it ends.

Jondalar 11-08-2014 10:25 PM

It's pretty clear that Stevie doesn't want to do the album and she is being pressured into doing it.

SteveMacD 11-08-2014 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1152738)
It's pretty clear that Stevie doesn't want to do the album and she is being pressured into doing it.

I don't see that at all. There's a political game going on right now, but that doesn't mean Stevie doesn't want to be a part of a Fleetwood Mac album. In any event, it's kind of a red herring, because they can't go into to the studio until late summer, 2015 at the earliest.

MikeInNV 11-08-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1152740)
I don't see that at all. There's a political game going on right now, but that doesn't mean Stevie doesn't want to be a part of a Fleetwood Mac album. In any event, it's kind of a red herring, because they can't go into to the studio until late summer, 2015 at the earliest.

Well, FM77 seems convinced the tour will end June 30, but Stevie says she has another year with Fleetwood Mac, so maybe recording will fill some of that time? :shrug:

MikeVielhaber 11-08-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1152631)
I wonder how many more albums FM owes WB Records.

They aren't signed to WB or anybody. They have no recording contract. Their EP was self released.

SteveMacD 11-08-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1152745)
They aren't signed to WB or anybody. They have no recording contract. Their EP was self released.

Stevie was the only one signed to a contract going into the tour, which is why I kind of suspect she did 24KG when she did.

Macfanforever 11-08-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1152745)
They aren't signed to WB or anybody. They have no recording contract. Their EP was self released.

Thanks for the info. I did not know that.

I forgot about the EP.

PenguinHead 11-09-2014 01:09 AM

They aren't getting any younger. Time is not on their side. I don't think any of them want to end their legacy with a whimper, leaving their album Say You Will as the coda of their long legacy. Christine's return shouldn't be squandered on a just a blatant cash-grab tour. A tour is a fleeting moment, an album is a lasting contribution to their recorded their history.

They just came off the road from their 2013 tour, then Christine returns. Their snap reaction is to book another tour! Ideally, they should have dedicated all their time and focus on creating what could possibly be their last album. It would have allowed some space for Stevie to promote her album; and she would probably be more amenable to working with the band.

Lindsey does a great job spinning this tour as such a profound chapter in the evolution of the band. But there's nothing profound or evolutionary just because Christine's songs are back in the set. It's just business as usual, as it was, and is again. Greed overruled art.

nodmod 11-09-2014 06:13 AM

At the Mick M&G in Washington DC, when asked about a new album, Mick was non-commital, his words were something like..... "however this music gets out - as a Fleetwood Mac release or a Lindsey Buckingham solo release, we have some great music coming", I paraphase a little as I cannot recall excatly, but I sense some back peddling going on.

Anyone else who attended the Mick M&G in Washington DC wish to comment?

shackin'up 11-09-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nodmod (Post 1152761)
At the Mick M&G in Washington DC, when asked about a new album, Mick was non-commital, his words were something like..... "however this music gets out - as a Fleetwood Mac release or a Lindsey Buckingham solo release, we have some great music coming", I paraphase a little as I cannot recall excatly, but I sense some back peddling going on.

Anyone else who attended the Mick M&G in Washington DC wish to comment?

Which means Stevie is not on board, and even is not planning to. She doesn't want to work with Lindsey. Even not with Christine there. She ruïns it for all of them. And all of us.

Jondalar 11-09-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1152767)
Which means Stevie is not on board, and even is not planning to. She doesn't want to work with Lindsey. Even not with Christine there. She ruïns it for all of them. And all of us.

I think you are right about Stevie, but they don't really need her. Lindsey and Christine are magic and Stevie doesn't need them either. 24k proves that. Maybe they should part ways. They are not going to sale a bunch records either way. People don't seem to want new music.

Dex 11-09-2014 07:08 AM

Yes. I think it's time for them to bite the bullet and release a Lindsey/Chris album. They can call it Fleetwood Mac or anything else they like, really, I should think they'd just want to get the work out after having worked on it and being so proud of it. Stevie seems happy doing her solo thing, and everyone is getting their cash from the tour. There's no reason everyone can't just work in a way that's gratifying to them without endlessly agonizing over having the "classic" lineup in the studio.

Jondalar 11-09-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dex (Post 1152769)
Yes. I think it's time for them to bite the bullet and release a Lindsey/Chris album. They can call it Fleetwood Mac or anything else they like, really, I should think they'd just want to get the work out after having worked on it and being so proud of it. Stevie seems happy doing her solo thing, and everyone is getting their cash from the tour. There's no reason everyone can't just work in a way that's gratifying to them without endlessly agonizing over having the "classic" lineup in the studio.

Totally agree. Another Tango In The Night and another 24k gold would be fine with me.

shackin'up 11-09-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1152768)
I think you are right about Stevie, but they don't really need her. Lindsey and Christine are magic and Stevie doesn't need them either. 24k proves that. Maybe they should part ways. They are not going to sale a bunch records either way. People don't seem to want new music.

If NOBODY wants new music, I hope they'll tour Europe and Australia and South America for a whole year.

shackin'up 11-09-2014 08:47 AM

24 KG is simply no Fleetwood Mac Magic. Not even one moment. And it doesn't contain ANY contemporary compositions from her. She's lost the art of songwriting on her own and should collaborate with Chris and then leave it to Chris and Lindsey to finish it.

mitzo 11-09-2014 09:04 AM

One thing is for sure, there is not going be any album of any sort unless they stop the cash cow jukebox tour long enough to make one.

Dex 11-09-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1152779)
24 KG is simply no Fleetwood Mac Magic. Not even one moment. And it doesn't contain ANY contemporary compositions from her. She's lost the art of songwriting on her own and should collaborate with Chris and then leave it to Chris and Lindsey to finish it.

*shrugs* It's the kind of work she enjoys doing, and she should be left to do it without fans imposing a bunch of "should"s on her. There are no "should"s for any of them at this stage in their careers.

And it's possible I'm misunderstanding your meaning, but I think "Fleetwood Mac Magic" is a concept that only applies to an era long gone. Stevie's work with Fleetwood Mac hasn't really been consistently better than her solo work since... well, she began her solo career. Trying to force collaborations that an artist really doesn't want to take part in is going to reflect in sucky product. The best work will come from the artists doing what they love, and not worrying about whether or not its "Fleetwood Mac".

aleuzzi 11-09-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1152749)
They aren't getting any younger. Time is not on their side. I don't think any of them want to end their legacy with a whimper, leaving their album Say You Will as the coda of their long legacy. Christine's return shouldn't be squandered on a just a blatant cash-grab tour. A tour is a fleeting moment, an album is a lasting contribution to their recorded their history.

They just came off the road from their 2013 tour, then Christine returns. Their snap reaction is to book another tour! Ideally, they should have dedicated all their time and focus on creating what could possibly be their last album. It would have allowed some space for Stevie to promote her album; and she would probably be more amenable to working with the band.

Lindsey does a great job spinning this tour as such a profound chapter in the evolution of the band. But there's nothing profound or evolutionary just because Christine's songs are back in the set. It's just business as usual, as it was, and is again. Greed overruled art.

Sadly, all of what you say is true.

aleuzzi 11-09-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1152778)
If NOBODY wants new music, I hope they'll tour Europe and Australia and South America for a whole year.

This may happen. And though I'm sure the people of Europe, Australia and South America would be thrilled to see them, I, as a fan who wants new music, would be crushed if the world tour stalls things even further.

FM77 11-09-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeInNV (Post 1152744)
Well, FM77 seems convinced the tour will end June 30, but Stevie says she has another year with Fleetwood Mac, so maybe recording will fill some of that time? :shrug:

The second US leg that goes thru 6/30 was negotiated and agreed upon only recently. Somebody in the band tweeted 6/30 as the end date as well. I can't remember who. I will be shocked if the tour extends beyond that but things can change. I still doubt it. I certainly don't think Stevie meant they were going into 2016. Rehearsals started in July, the tour ends 6/30. That is a year with FM.

welcomechris 11-09-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1152800)
The second US leg that goes thru 6/30 was negotiated and agreed upon only recently. Somebody in the band tweeted 6/30 as the end date as well. I can't remember who. I will be shocked if the tour extends beyond that but things can change. I still doubt it. I certainly don't think Stevie meant they were going into 2016. Rehearsals started in July, the tour ends 6/30. That is a year with FM.

So June 30th is the last day for america? And then they go to the UK and stuff?

FuzzyPlum 11-09-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1152801)
So June 30th is the last day for america? And then they go to the UK and stuff?

They are in Europe May and June. If 30th June is the very end then there will be no tour of Aus/NZ. I really can't see that happening. I don't think Stevie would do that to their fans down under.

Would like to see them break to finish the album. However, they can take as much time off as they want, but if Stevie doesn't want an album they can take all the time off they want- it still would never get finished. If they break on 30th June then it seems increasingly likely Stevie will go off and tour on her own (nice having you back Chris).

Macfanforever 11-09-2014 01:52 PM

I have to look at it this way.We are lucky that Chris back on the road with them on this tour.Which thought it never happen .The new album is a bonus.

Macfanforever 11-09-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1152805)
They are in Europe May and June. If 30th June is the very end then there will be no tour of Aus/NZ. I really can't see that happening. I don't think Stevie would do that to their fans down under.

Would like to see them break to finish the album. However, they can take as much time off as they want, but if Stevie doesn't want an album they can take all the time off they want- it still would never get finished. If they break on 30th June then it seems increasingly likely Stevie will go off and tour on her own (nice having you back Chris).

They should head to Aus and NZ at the first of the year and Europe after that and wrap it up here in the states in June or July with a summer tour.And they go their merry way or record after its over.

I dont see any sense of releasing a new album after the fact of touring is over.

Maybe it was logistics and scheduling conflicts that made it the way they plan this tour.

MikeVielhaber 11-09-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1152806)
I have to look at it this way.We are lucky that Chris back on the road with them on this tour.Which thought it never happen .The new album is a bonus.

Not for me. I won't be seeing them on tour due to limited availability and ticket prices I can't afford. A $10 cd however would be in my budget and would also last forever. It's nice that they're enjoying the road and people get to see that, but for me it doesn't change anything. If they don't put out a new album this reunion will have been a waste, as far as I'm concerned.

Jondalar 11-09-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1152779)
24 KG is simply no Fleetwood Mac Magic. Not even one moment. And it doesn't contain ANY contemporary compositions from her. She's lost the art of songwriting on her own and should collaborate with Chris and then leave it to Chris and Lindsey to finish it.

24k gold is Stevie Nicks magic and it doesn't matter if the demos were old. She has such a large catalog, she doesn't need new songs. She is not going write songs with Lindsey or Chris. She needs to just leave and do 24k part 2. At least we know that will be a great album. Lindsey and Chris can handle Fleetwood Mac.

FuzzyPlum 11-09-2014 05:00 PM

Just a thought...
The US leg is currently scheduled to finish at the end of March. They will be in Europe in May. If Stevie somehow agreed to get on board for an album could that one month April window not be used to knock out three Stevie Nicks songs + backing vocals for the already completed Buckingham/McVie material?

Why have they set aside a one month break anyway? If the tour is genuinely going to finish at the end of June, why would they need a one month recuperation break before a two month European leg?

michelej1 11-09-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex (Post 1152769)
Yes. I think it's time for them to bite the bullet and release a Lindsey/Chris album. They can call it Fleetwood Mac or anything else they like, really, I should think they'd just want to get the work out after having worked on it and being so proud of it. Stevie seems happy doing her solo thing, and everyone is getting their cash from the tour. There's no reason everyone can't just work in a way that's gratifying to them without endlessly agonizing over having the "classic" lineup in the studio.

I don't know why they don't feel this way. They want money. They've GOT money. With or without Stevie the album is not going to sell. Just put it out. Obviously, they don't want to just "get the work out" as much as we would want them to. I don't care what Stevie does any more. Since she doesn't want to record with them, I don't think any collaboration with them would be momentous anyway. Why force a reluctant member? I'm just disappointed in Lindsey, Christine and Mick.

Michele

michelej1 11-09-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nodmod (Post 1152761)
At the Mick M&G in Washington DC, when asked about a new album, Mick was non-commital, his words were something like..... "however this music gets out - as a Fleetwood Mac release or a Lindsey Buckingham solo release, we have some great music coming", I paraphase a little as I cannot recall excatly, but I sense some back peddling going on.

As someone who is going to buy the next Lindsey solo album no matter what, this is not what I want to hear. Christine's unheard songs need to be released and showcased as well.

Michele

FM77 11-09-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1152801)
So June 30th is the last day for america? And then they go to the UK and stuff?

No, the last US date is Wichita in March. The Europe dates end 6/30 I believe.

saradorna 11-10-2014 07:49 AM

I hope this how is going to be
 
They'll be in the studio sometime around July 2015 or maybe a little later. I love Stevie and want more solo albums but I would like one more with FM. I decide that I'm just going to be happy with whatever happens. I'm not going to get involved in the blame game that some fans here are getting to. It's just silly and very immature, I have learned my lesson no to get upset by the insulting comments of some "fans" here. Its really sad and silly. JMHO.

SteveMacD
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I don't see that at all. There's a political game going on right now, but that doesn't mean Stevie doesn't want to be a part of a Fleetwood Mac album. In any event, it's kind of a red herring, because they can't go into to the studio until late summer, 2015 at the earliest.
FM77
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No, the last US date is Wichita in March. The Europe dates end 6/30 I believe.

elle 11-10-2014 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by saradorna (Post 1152900)
I decide that I'm just going to be happy with whatever happens. I'm not going to get involved in the blame game that some fans here are getting to. It's just silly and very immature,

or you can chose to look at it on the positive side, and read fans opinions almost as a little focus group of opinions [very biased and skewed, depending on the members participating].

saradorna 11-10-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1152903)
or you can chose to look at it on the positive side, and read fans opinions almost as a little focus group of opinions [very biased and skewed, depending on the members participating].

I read them Elle but some are insulting to some of the members of FM (Stevie, Lindsey and Mick to be specific) and there's no need for that! I thought "we are all fans of FM here". You can disagree and be upset at them for not doing what we want to. But why the name calling?

So for many people Stevie is to blame for FM not making an album. Now Stevie is an old goat, the wicked witch, a has been.:rolleyes: So Lindsey is to blame because he didn't do a great job on Stevie's song on SYW. Now Lindsey is a bad bad boy or whatever else has been said :rolleyes: Oh and Mick is just a money grabber or whatever the new insult you can find for him. :shrug:

Again its just the name calling that bothers me! Focus Group as you said are to help find answers and I'm all for that! Its fun to try to guess what's going on in FM. :nod:

Just saying...


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