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vivfox 11-01-2009 01:14 PM

Cheerleader Gets A Flu Shot & Now She Can Only Walk Backwards or Run!
 
Oh my God. This is so sad and tragic.


chelluversu 11-01-2009 01:17 PM

i saw this on the news..its one of the reasons im not getting the shot.

Musicman408 11-01-2009 02:43 PM

Oh my God- that is soooo sad.....:distress:

jannieC 11-01-2009 09:47 PM

I have never seen anything like this. How devastating. I wonder if there will ever be anything to be done for her.

daniellaaarisen 11-01-2009 11:08 PM

This is unbelievable... oh my God.

Tango 11-02-2009 09:19 AM

There is some helpful information on the Center of Disease Control's website about H1N1/"Swine Flu"/vaccinations:

http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1FLU/

There's been a lot of news about Canada being hit with the flu--any Canadians here have comments?

David 11-02-2009 12:28 PM

I'm going to get a swine flu shot -- if they're ever available in enough quantity!

Stupid government can't even manage to distribute a flu vaccine in adequate numbers. :mad:

Ghost_Tracker 11-02-2009 03:57 PM

This is why it really pisses me off when the doctors and other health professionals are saying there's "no" risk. There's always a risk when it comes to vaccines, or at least there has been in the past, every single time. It seems to me that the risk tends to be very very low, but the doctors and governments have no right to try to obfuscate the fact that there is a risk. Seems to me they THINK they're doing the right thing - "More people will get the vaccine and so more people will be saved" - but i.m.o. they're just plain wrong - individuals have the right to have all the information before they make a choice that can affect their health.

goldustsongbird 11-02-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango (Post 851376)
There is some helpful information on the Center of Disease Control's website about H1N1/"Swine Flu"/vaccinations:

http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1FLU/

There's been a lot of news about Canada being hit with the flu--any Canadians here have comments?

:shrug: Elementary schools are getting hit hardest from what I can tell from news reports. It's making its way through universities, too, particularly in the dorms. There have been 2 deaths in the last week, both kids (13 & 15 :distress: ) with underlying medical problems.

I haven't gotten it. I haven't had a regular flu shot in about 15 years, and I'm not getting it this time around.

chiliD 11-02-2009 07:00 PM

Yes, what she's going through is definitely "sad & tragic", but there's no proof that the flu shot caused this. It's sensationalist media bull****.

daniellaaarisen 11-02-2009 07:04 PM

Just got back from the doctor's office. He thought I had swine flu and bronchitis... luckily, I just have bronchitis. Yay?

But it made me think of this thread.

jannieC 11-02-2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 851541)
Yes, what she's going through is definitely "sad & tragic", but there's no proof that the flu shot caused this. It's sensationalist media bull****.

My initial reaction as well (after I got over my shock for this poor girl).

gypsy4life 11-02-2009 07:57 PM

I've been feeling leary of these shots for a while. Now, I most certainly am. Poor girl.

jannieC 11-02-2009 08:31 PM

Before anyone decides NOT to get a flu vaccination, please review this:

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1152

Zombie 11-02-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 851541)
Yes, what she's going through is definitely "sad & tragic", but there's no proof that the flu shot caused this. It's sensationalist media bull****.

Bingo. Corellation does not imply causation. But I do feel really, really bad for that girl.

My kids & I all came down with the pig flu over the weekend. It's more fun than a barrel of mutant monkeys.

Which is to say...y'know...not.

vivfox 11-02-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zombie (Post 851588)
Bingo. Corellation does not imply causation. But I do feel really, really bad for that girl.

My kids & I all came down with the pig flu over the weekend. It's more fun than a barrel of mutant monkeys.

Which is to say...y'know...not.

You just made me scared ****less to get that CD from you.

jannieC 11-02-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 851608)
You just made me scared ****less to get that CD from you.

Clorox Anywhere spray is the best.

Zombie 11-02-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 851608)
You just made me scared ****less to get that CD from you.


LOL!

It's not mailed out yet - and I am going to make my boyfriend take it in, just in case. Fear not.

SuzeQuze 11-02-2009 11:02 PM

Is the vaccine being recommended for everyone?

jannieC 11-02-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze (Post 851618)
Is the vaccine being recommended for everyone?

The H1N1 or seasonal flu vaccine? It's my understanding that the H1N1 is not being considered right now for healthy people between the ages of 25 and 64.

LukeA 11-03-2009 12:57 AM

Geez, its been a year now- can we stop referring to it as the "swine flu"? I mean, the virus (said "swine flu") isn't even the same as when the moniker for it was first given. Its H1N1. And unless you're pregnant or 65+, you're insane/think way too highly of yourself if you think you need a vaccination for it. Its called Purell & Vitamin C.

Travis 11-03-2009 08:36 AM

All I know is that in past years when I would get a flu shot, it made me sick every time. It’s such a yucky and gross feeling that I finally stopped getting one. It does scare me that I may catch a flu but, something told me to stop getting the shot. I read somewhere that 41% of Americans are not getting the shot for similar reasons – that number can’t be ignored. I have my Lysol, my disenfective wipes, and I’m taking my vitamins every day – hopefully that will work. I haven’t been sick in a few years so …

GODDESS6 11-03-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 851680)
All I know is that in past years when I would get a flu shot, it made me sick every time. It’s such a yucky and gross feeling that I finally stopped getting one. It does scare me that I may catch a flu but, something told me to stop getting the shot. I read somewhere that 41% of Americans are not getting the shot for similar reasons – that number can’t be ignored. I have my Lysol, my disenfective wipes, and I’m taking my vitamins every day – hopefully that will work. I haven’t been sick in a few years so …

i haven't gotten the hini either, for the reasons you say~ several places that i have wrked have offered the regular flu shot free throughout the years & i would always take advantage of it~ i ALWAYS regretted it, i would get sicker than if i didn't get the shot~ once it was so bad i was out of wrk for 5 days, & i never miss time~ i literally couldn't get up or sit up, the shot screwed me up so badly~

when i asked the DR about it, he said it had something to do w/ the shots being egg based & i have sadly over the years acquired an alergy to eggs~ i can eat them if they are baked in something, deviled or hard boiled~ but not scrambled, fried, omelet, & even now i heartbreakingly found out french toast~ the dipping of the bread in the egg is just too much for me~ i get so horribly sick if i even taste a tiny bit of the scrambled eggs i make my son~ i am in severe abdominal pain for 24 hours, & i'm talking the tiniest of bites, not even close to being a forkful~

so this gives to my fear of the h1ni, my DR told me it is also egg based~ & i am scared to death of getting a shot~ i have just been super diligent in washing our hands lysoling & the clorox anywhere that jannie mentioned, seeing as i have a kid & run a daycare~

Ghost_Tracker 11-03-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 851541)
Yes, what she's going through is definitely "sad & tragic", but there's no proof that the flu shot caused this. It's sensationalist media bull****.

I understand what you're saying, but there are serious side effects in some people when they take vaccines, including fatal ones. I'll be honest that I don't know for a fact that it's in all vaccines, but it's definitely high enough that in my honest opinion the health professionals are acting very, very unethically when they say that there's "no" risk. They're just plain lying.
It's an established scientific fact that there's serious side effects in some people from vaccines, including, like I said, occasional fatalities. The age or current health of the person doesn't seem to be important; the side effects are "equal-opportunity employers."
People have a right to have all the information before they make a decision that could permanently affect their health; and I feel that the health professionals have a responsibility to make sure they get that information.

jannieC 11-04-2009 07:03 PM

Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions. All I ask is that you please stay the eff home if you are sick. :)

daniellaaarisen 11-04-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jannieC (Post 852034)
Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions. All I ask is that you please stay the eff home if you are sick. :)

Even if it ruins your academic life right before the midterm grades are sent home. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!

jannieC 11-04-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by daniellaaarisen (Post 852037)
Even if it ruins your academic life right before the midterm grades are sent home. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!

You're not RUINED Dani- lol. You will survive this!

Mad4stevie 11-04-2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jannieC (Post 851574)
Before anyone decides NOT to get a flu vaccination, please review this:

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1152

Thanks for posting that. Very interesting.

Mad4stevie 11-04-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 851632)
And unless you're pregnant or 65+, you're insane/think way too highly of yourself if you think you need a vaccination for it. Its called Purell & Vitamin C.

Nice. You are aware that there are other groups that are considered at priority, right? Maybe you should check out the correct info on this before making such condescending statements.

I got the H1N1. Why? Because I am the primary caretaker for my two month old daughter, who has limited immunity to any illness at this age. I DID IT FOR HER. Not because I am insane or think "way too highly of myself".

GypsyBlueEyes 11-04-2009 11:36 PM

WOW! I've never heard of anything like that. Its awful. I hope they will find something that can help her.

LukeA 11-04-2009 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie (Post 852069)
I got the H1N1. Why? Because I am the primary caretaker for my two month old daughter, who has limited immunity to any illness at this age. I DID IT FOR HER. Not because I am insane or think "way too highly of myself".

I was being slightly overly general. I understand why you got the vaccine, and most likely would have done the same thing under similar circumstances. When I said "pregnant", it was in the spirit of protecting not just the unborn but also the 18 month old & under infant.

There's a large segment of the vaccine-receiving population that are panicky, self-important idiots, though. This should not get lost in the conversation (especially when there is a shortage where those who should absolutely get the vaccination can't)

chiliD 11-05-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 851632)
And unless you're pregnant or 65+, you're insane/think way too highly of yourself if you think you need a vaccination for it. Its called Purell & Vitamin C.

So, the diabetics between 21-65 (who are in the demographic recommended to get the vaccine) fit your "insane/egocentric" broadbrush, too? F-U!

LukeA 11-05-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 852177)
So, the diabetics between 21-65 (who are in the demographic recommended to get the vaccine) fit your "insane/egocentric" broadbrush, too? F-U!

Again, I was being overly general. My derision was intended to be aimed squarely on those who have no medical/otherwise logical reason to take the extraordinary step of receiving this vaccine.

Mad4stevie 11-05-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 852091)
I was being slightly overly general. I understand why you got the vaccine, and most likely would have done the same thing under similar circumstances. When I said "pregnant", it was in the spirit of protecting not just the unborn but also the 18 month old & under infant.

There's a large segment of the vaccine-receiving population that are panicky, self-important idiots, though. This should not get lost in the conversation (especially when there is a shortage where those who should absolutely get the vaccination can't)

Well, any child over the age of 6 months can be vaccinated. It is those under that age who have no protection whatsoever (not even through breastfeeding). Infants that young have very serious, often life-threatening, complications from any kind of respiratory illness.

Most places will not vaccinate someone just because they want to get the H1N1 vaccine. They have to be in one of the priority groups. I stood outside in a line for three hours at a clinic to get mine. They only vaccinated pregnant women, health care workers, children over the age of 5 (for liability reasons), caretakers of children under the age of 6 months and some individuals who had compromised immune systems.

If I didn't have an infant under 6 months, I would not be in any kind of hurry to get it. For those in my age range, this is no different than the regular seasonal flu, IMO.

jannieC 11-05-2009 07:40 PM

I find myself feeling a little panic-ish, which is unlike me. My daughter is 14 month old and I have not been able to get her vaccinated (she is on a waiting list at her pediatrician's office). I don't know why I am feeling skittish about it now, but I am. Dammit. :(


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