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gldstwmn 08-23-2005 10:32 AM

Robertson: U.S. should 'take out' Venezuela's Chavez
 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/rob...vez/index.html

Christian broadcaster says 'cheaper than starting a war'http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/erm.gif

CNN) -- Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson has called for the United States to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him "a terrific danger" bent on exporting Communism and Islamic extremism across the Americas.

"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson told viewers on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."

Robertson, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, called Chavez "a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us badly."

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said. "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

Click the link for the full article.

chiliD 08-23-2005 11:28 AM

Somebody oughta take out Robertson, too, while they're at it.

SuzeQuze 08-23-2005 12:02 PM

This is shocking, even though I know he's a loon, still. I'm surprised anything shocks me anymore.

Bush's approval rating is down to 36%, this is lower than Nixon's rating was at the height of Watergate (39%). :shocked: Going down?

markolas 08-23-2005 12:06 PM

I thought he was dying of cancer. Take him now, lord!!

He is aware that assasinating a head of state is illegal, right?

estranged4life 08-23-2005 12:34 PM

I thought...
 
ol' bobble-head Robertson was off his rocker before...Now I think he needs to go on a permanent psychiatric vacation

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
This is shocking, even though I know he's a loon, still. I'm surprised anything shocks me anymore.

Bush's approval rating is down to 36%, this is lower than Nixon's rating was at the height of Watergate (39%). :shocked: Going down?

I'm appreshensive about what their next move might be. But then, I'm generally apprehensive. :laugh: :shrug:

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
I thought he was dying of cancer. Take him now, lord!!

He is aware that assasinating a head of state is illegal, right?

Not if it's in the name of Jesus. :p

SuzeQuze 08-23-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I'm appreshensive about what their next move might be. But then, I'm generally apprehensive. :laugh: :shrug:

I know, a feeling of doom comes over me when I think about that. I just pray and try to believe things will get better. But I do not stick my head in the sand.

Nixxxed 08-23-2005 02:46 PM

Since Robertson asked people to pray for openings on the Supreme Court, I say we all start praying for a few openings on the 700 Club leadership board.

Nixxxed 08-23-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze
This is shocking, even though I know he's a loon, still. I'm surprised anything shocks me anymore.

Bush's approval rating is down to 36%, this is lower than Nixon's rating was at the height of Watergate (39%). :shocked: Going down?

Hooray! I say it's time to call for a national Recall Election!

ontheEdgeof17 08-23-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed
Hooray! I say it's time to call for a national Recall Election!

Preach it!


Now he's saying he wants the troops to stay in Iraq for 4 more years. :distress: Just in time for another election....

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 04:22 PM

Check out this picture of Chavez and Castro in Cuba today. Does the man ever age? I think he's about 125 now. :laugh:


Johnny Stew 08-23-2005 08:16 PM

It occured to me a few years ago, that Robertson had gone beyond extreme conservatism into complete insanity. This man is no longer interested in teaching the Word of God, or helping people strengthen their faith (if that ever really was his "mission" in the first place)... he has his own political agenda and personal vendettas, and he has become completely and utterly corrupt.

I think people should flood every TV station that airs the 700 Club with letters of disgust that a REVEREND would call for the assassination of someone, and demand that his little political forum be taken off the air.

"Thou Shall Not Kill" indeed.

Johnny Stew 08-23-2005 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
I thought he was dying of cancer.

I think you might be thinking of Fred Phelps. I've never heard anything about Robertson having cancer.

I'd bet that he has undiagnosed dementia though. ;)

markolas 08-23-2005 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I think you might be thinking of Fred Phelps. I've never heard anything about Robertson having cancer.

No, I was definitely thinking of Robertson. I heard he had prostate cancer, but that was a few years ago. I didn't know Phelps had cancer. I hope he dies an excruciating death. :D

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
It occured to me a few years ago, that Robertson had gone beyond extreme conservatism into complete insanity. This man is no longer interested in teaching the Word of God, or helping people strengthen their faith (if that ever really was his "mission" in the first place)... he has his own political agenda and personal vendettas, and he has become completely and utterly corrupt.

I think people should flood every TV station that airs the 700 Club with letters of disgust that a REVEREND would call for the assassination of someone, and demand that his little political forum be taken off the air.

"Thou Shall Not Kill" indeed.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=52001
Media Matters Calls on ABC Family to Discontinue Robertson Broadcasts


With regards to the insanity, CNN said this evening that he is 75. I wonder if he's starting to slip. But when I think about it, he has a long history of saying wildly offensive things so... :shrug:

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
No, I was definitely thinking of Robertson. I heard he had prostate cancer, but that was a few years ago. I didn't know Phelps had cancer. I hope he dies an excruciating death. :D

Prostate is one of the most slow spreading, highly treatable forms of cancer. I hadn't heard about Fred Phelps either.

dissention 08-23-2005 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
No, I was definitely thinking of Robertson. I heard he had prostate cancer, but that was a few years ago.

I'm still awaiting Falwell's expiration. That wet fart of a human turd should suffer as much as the people he's made a career out of persecuting. He came close to biting it this past year, but he f*cked us all over again and hung in there. ****, even Tammy Faye will crack a smile the day he kicks the bucket.

ontheEdgeof17 08-23-2005 10:03 PM

From the article

Quote:

In addition to urging the assassination of a foreign leader, Robertson has blamed gays for divorce, abortion, and September 11, said that a gay-oriented event would bring about "terrorist bombs ... earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."
Aww...That's so nice of him to say. http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoti...ers/fing28.gif

macfanken 08-23-2005 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
From the article



Aww...That's so nice of him to say. http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoti...ers/fing28.gif


Yes, what a great example for Christians.

Fred Phelps and his group of wackos are blaming the Iraq war on gays... they're actually protesting at the funerals of soldiers who have died in the war. What kind of twisted logic is that?!


Veterans Protest Military Funeral Protestors

POSTED: 5:51 pm CDT August 8, 2005
UPDATED: 8:56 am CDT August 9, 2005

CHICAGO -- Some local military veterans took a stand on Monday against the tactics of an out-of-town group that travels the country picketing military funerals.

The members of Westboro Baptist Church demonstrated at the funeral of 22-year-old Spc. Adam Harding last week in Portage, Ind. The group claims God is killing American soldiers because of America's tolerance of homosexuality.

"Not only am I happy about it, the Bible says you are supposed to wash your feet in the blood of the wicked," said Jonathan Phelps, a spokesman for the group.

Veterans in Chicago said a military funeral is no place to deliver that message, NBC5's Phil Rogers reported.

"This, I believe, is as low as one can go," said Alderman Brian Balcer, who is also a veteran of the Vietnam War.

Balcer, as well as others, denounced the Westboro Baptist Church, which they said had made fraudulent use of the Bill of Rights by crashing the funerals of dead soldiers in the name of free speech.

"Make sure that our families -- our American families -- have the rights to honor their loved ones," said Jim Frazier, who lost his son in Afghanistan.

The group in question is based in Topeka, Kan., and they showed up with approximately 10 people at Harding's funeral. The group continually taunted police and prosecutors, who were watching from the sidelines. There were no arrests.

Phelps said he wasn't interfering in the families' grieving process.

"I'm here on a public sidewalk," he said.

The Pentagon has warned military officials across the country to temper their responses, cautioning them that the demonstrators want to be arrested so they can sue to fund future activities.

The message from the group of military veterans was free speech was one thing, but human decency is a different matter altogether.

"The least that people can do is to respect that final moment that family has to say goodbye," said Kirk Morrison, who lost his son in Iraq.

ontheEdgeof17 08-23-2005 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by macfanken
The members of Westboro Baptist Church demonstrated at the funeral of 22-year-old Spc. Adam Harding last week in Portage, Ind. The group claims God is killing American soldiers because of America's tolerance of homosexuality.

"Not only am I happy about it, the Bible says you are supposed to wash your feet in the blood of the wicked," said Jonathan Phelps, a spokesman for the group.


Disgusting. Makes me wanna cry, I'm so angry about this. :mad:

dissention 08-23-2005 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by macfanken
"Not only am I happy about it, the Bible says you are supposed to wash your feet in the blood of the wicked," said Jonathan Phelps, a spokesman for the group.

What a lovely opportunity to use this.

[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/rnareau/****tard.jpg[/IMG]

Johnny Stew 08-23-2005 10:52 PM

The very idea that Phelps and his cronies (mostly made up of his own brainwashed and indentured children & grandchildren) picket FUNERALS is something that has always sickened me.

Being the person I am, I've always tried to find at least some understanding of where the "other side" is coming from, or a respect for the fact that they're standing up for their principles... but what Phelps does is absolutely immoral. And now this. :distress:
I cannot believe more people aren't up in arms about his actions. But maybe now that he's gone past picketing the funerals of homosexuals to picketing the funerals of our soldiers, it will finally open more eyes.

Robertson, Falwell and Phelps are impotent old men who've lost all touch with society, and are desperately grasping at the last vestiges of their past relevance by saying and doing whatever it takes to get themselves even a fleeting taste of that attention they so crave.
And all in the name of God.

As I've often said, if there is indeed a Heaven, then some people are in for an extremely rude awakening.

Johnny Stew 08-23-2005 10:55 PM

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"Not only am I happy about it, the Bible says you are supposed to wash your feet in the blood of the wicked," said Jonathan Phelps, a spokesman for the group.
I think I've mentioned before that my friend, Wyatt, who lives in Topeka, KS., where Phelps is based, fully intends to picket Phelps' inevitable funeral, with a sign that reads, "Hot Enough For You Down There?"

Johnny Stew 08-23-2005 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas
No, I was definitely thinking of Robertson. I heard he had prostate cancer, but that was a few years ago.

You're right... I had forgotten all about that, but I remember it now.

I don't know if Phelps' cancer is public knowledge, but Wyatt has told me that it's pretty much all over Topeka that Phelps is dying.

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
I'm still awaiting Falwell's expiration. That wet fart of a human turd should suffer as much as the people he's made a career out of persecuting. He came close to biting it this past year, but he f*cked us all over again and hung in there. ****, even Tammy Faye will crack a smile the day he kicks the bucket.

Since he stole PTL from Jim and Tammy, I would think. I'm worried about her though. I hope she makes it.

gldstwmn 08-23-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
From the article



Aww...That's so nice of him to say. http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoti...ers/fing28.gif

Bananas.http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...xyxnervous.gif

dissention 08-23-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Since he stole PTL from Jim and Tammy, I would think. I'm worried about her though. I hope she makes it.

What that rat bastard did to them was downright evil. Jim was no prince, but the way that Falwell went after him in that one particular press conference by calling him a fag that came on to him was shocking, even by Falwell's standards. I try not to wish ill will on anyone, but when it comes to that piece of ****, I can't help it. I hope he suffers immense pain before finally treating us to his final exit.

As for Tammy, I'm always pulling for her. Love love love that woman to death; she's an angel.

irishgrl 08-24-2005 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/rob...vez/index.html

Christian broadcaster says 'cheaper than starting a war'http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/erm.gif

CNN) -- Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson has called for the United States to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him "a terrific danger" bent on exporting Communism and Islamic extremism across the Americas.

"If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson told viewers on his "The 700 Club" show Monday. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war."

Robertson, a contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988, called Chavez "a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us badly."

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said. "We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

Click the link for the full article.


in a nutshell, this was the saga related in "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" whereby two other South American Leaders (deemed dangerous to US economic interests) were removed. Apparently now we are impervious to public opinion such that eejits like Roberts can publicly state such heavy handed tactics????? What's The World Coming To indeed......

ShangriLaTroubl 08-24-2005 09:54 AM

I say we call for the assassinations of the real terrorists themselves - Falwell and Robertson


Chris

gldstwmn 08-24-2005 10:02 AM

I'm pretty sure that Robertson has broken the law but I doubt he will be charged with anything. I think asking to have someone assasinated falls outside the boundries of free speech. :distress:

SuzeQuze 08-24-2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I'm pretty sure that Robertson has broken the law but I doubt he will be charged with anything. I think asking to have someone assasinated falls outside the boundries of free speech. :distress:

Some idiot on Fox said what Robertson said was "silly" and no one would take it seriously. :shocked: If Bill Clinton said that, can you imagine the fallout?

greatdarkwing 08-24-2005 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Check out this picture of Chavez and Castro in Cuba today. Does the man ever age? I think he's about 125 now. :laugh:



2 bullets....thats all I'd need.... :cool:

DavidMn 08-24-2005 12:08 PM

Memo to Pat Robertson: THOU SHALT NOT KILL!!! or do you only use that when it's convienent?!?! I cant believe these hypocrites!!! :confused:

DavidMn 08-24-2005 12:09 PM

I mean, I dont know if the guy should be taken out or not, maybe he should, but for a well known religious figure to utter something like that just amazes me

lbelle1214 08-24-2005 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Not if it's in the name of Jesus. :p

THAT was good!

gldstwmn 08-24-2005 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMn
I mean, I dont know if the guy should be taken out or not,

We get about 10% of our oil from Venezuela.

Nixxxed 08-24-2005 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gldstwmn
We get about 10% of our oil from Venezuela.

I thought it was hilarious that Chavez suggested selling discount oil to underprivileged Americans the other day. Plus, his assessment of Robertson's comment: "Who is Pat Robertson?"

:lol:

greatdarkwing 08-25-2005 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed
I thought it was hilarious that Chavez suggested selling discount oil to underprivileged Americans the other day.

:lol:

Yep, Castro is his hero alright..... now where's that gun...

tommer 08-25-2005 08:28 AM

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