I bought Street Angel!
 

And I don't think it's totally dreadful or anything. :shrug:

She's doing more of a rock & roll thing here than on anything since Bella Donna.

The main issue I have with it is that most of the songs sound like they should've been released in 1990, not 1994. Blue Denim, Listen to the Rain, Love Is Like a River, and Kick It don't sound like anything I was listening to in 1994, at any rate. So, I can see why this album didn't do very well.

I have to say that I prefer the mixes of Destiny, Street Angel, and Rose Garden that appeared on Enchanted. Stripped down is definitely better.

There are some great songs on here, though. I love Greta and Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind. I've always loved Street Angel (the song). Docklands and Jane aren't nearly as bad as everyone here says they are. :laugh: They're actually pretty good songs. I also really like Just Like a Woman. She should do more Dylan covers! :nod:

So, yeah...not a horrible album, but not her best. I still like it better than The Wild Heart. :lol:

You.Poor.Creature.

:laugh:

Why didn't you tell me you didn't have it? I would have sent you my copy for free. :cool:

Glad you got it. I don't think it's bad either. Well, some songs i don't like, but - it's a nice rockin, pretty little album. My fave is Kick It, and Greta.
Congrats!

Good for you! :thumbsup: I proudly own Street Angel.

Not to hijack this thread, but along the lines of stripped down enchanted versions vs. album versions: does anyone know the story? I remember reading somewhere that stevie-on-klonopin heard the album with the final mixes, then managed to get off klonopin and hated the final mixes, she had them remixed and taken into further production (hence why she gets production credit on the album). Is there truth to this? Are the enchanted versions the original mixes?

Michael

and, of course, congrats on a fine purchase

that story has been widely reported on this board, so imagine that's the case. I don't know all the little details, but someone does. I think you got it about right...

Do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash.

:angel:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

so HARSH you guys :distress:

I like SA. I LOVE Destiny and I really like Jane, SA (the song), and MLWCYM

But, not everyone likes the same thing :cool:

Moonelah! No! If he throws it in the trash, then how can he "Kick It"? :distress: you know, some prefer to kick it! :laugh: :p
Love,
H.
and don't try to use the Angel emoticon to justify... :lol:

Ok Ok I admit, Kick It is not bad. And actually, I kind of like Greta & Jane :shocked:

Other than that...UGH.

And I'll use :angel: whenever I please..cause I am one. :p

:xoxo:

"Jane" has that chimpaneze thing, though. :shrug: I can't recover from that. :sorry:

lmao

I employ my selective hearing during that song. :woohoo:

ok! *Blasphemer* :laugh:
Aha! you admitted Kick It is not bad! :laugh:
It's ok, when you never visit, i'll never put that on.... :lol: :wavey:

OK, here's the whole Street Angel saga. I think it's been reported here several times before, but it bears repeating because it's so interesting. Most of this info comes from a 1994 radio interview Stevie did six months or so after Street Angel was released. In the interview she basically disowned the album.

The original producer on Street Angel was Glyn Johns; he began working on the project in 1992. He had a specific vision for the album. He wanted it to have an acoustic/country sound and told Stevie that her old friend Waddy Wachtel would NOT be coming in to play on the sessions. Struck speechless and still in her Klonopin haze, Stevie went along with his plan but hated the results she heard. There was little percussion and not much electric guitar. (I've always assumed "Inspiration" and "God's Garden," country-ish songs that didn't end up on the final album, give a real window into Johns' approach.)

He finished the album and returned to his native England. Two months later, Stevie went back into the studio for eight weeks (presumably with Thom Panunzio), this time with Waddy, Mike Campbell and Peter Michael (percussion) in tow. They added more guitars and remixed everything.

She was unhappy with her vocals, too, but left them mostly untouched. The time had come simply to give up and let the album go.

I'm pretty sure this was all before she kicked Klonopin. Her opinion of the album seems to have plummeted even further after rehab, though.

As for where the "Enchanted" mixes come from, I don't know. Maybe those songs were remixed specifically for the boxed set. Anyone?

What's everyone prob wth Stevie singing about a freaking Chimpanzee. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I really like Jane, but LOVE Kick It, Docklands, Blue Denim, Street Angel, Love Is LIke a River and Just Like a Woman. The only song I hate is Unconditional Love.

Amen. :thumbsup:

It's depressing to listen to, IMO. She just didn't give a damn and it showed.

I think it was Glyn Johns.

From what Stevie has said, she didn't redo any of the vocals. She gave an interview where she said that she messed with everything else, but completely ignored the awful vocals.

I disagree. I really don't think it's too terrible. I think there's salvageable material there. But then, I don't love Bella Donna, so what do I know? :rolleyes: :laugh: (there are exceptions. EO17 is fav. as is SDMHA. plus the one line where she goes "belladonna" in that low voice...)
This is me, fighting the powers of....NEGATOR! :lol: :wavey:

Hey everyone, I found a transcript of the '94 radio interview where she talks about the album and edited my last post with the correct info. :)

I don't think she necessarily "didn't give a damn"... I think she cared as much as she COULD care about anything during that period of time. It just didn't match her level of commitment prior to that or in the years since.

And it's funny, because I don't find that album or any of her material from that era to be depressing, because I think it's a great example of the human spirit pushing forth through adversity. You know what I mean?
I can almost hear in her voice that she's TRYING to get back to what she used to be. She's struggling in places, but there's still that glimmer of "The Stevie Of Old," who's scratching and clawing her way back.

Anyway... that's not a "defense of Stevie," it's just what I come away from the songs with. :)

The lack of passion or conviction that she puts into that train-wreck of an album is what ruins it for me. The material itself is awful at best (most of it was either written by someone else or pilfered from the RAL sessions), but if there was any emotion or power put into some of it, it would be tolerable. But as is? Bloody awful, IMO. She just sounds like she doesn't give a fiddler's fig. If Stevie Nicks can't sell the lines she's singing, she's not Stevie Nicks to me. And that is why I don't listen to it: it's not Stevie.

Just my opinion. :woohoo:

Honestly, no, I don't know what you mean. That album epitomizes depression and a lack of interest for me. It is uncreative, boring, stiff, and a mess of bad production, writing, and singing. Her life sucked at that point and her music showed it. I've no use for it and take comfort in the fact that I'm not the only who dislikes it, Stevie herself does, too. :nod:

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but that's how I've felt since I was 14. As much of a fan of hers that I am, Street Angel is, without a doubt, one of the worst records I've ever heard in my life.

I don't think the songs turned out that bad. :shrug: I didn't know the whole backstory before i listened. I know you hate it though, i just don't think it turned out that bad. :shrug: and TBH, I can't believe you can't find anything redeamable (sp) on that album. But perhaps that's why you're the superhero that you are... :laugh: I find a lot of conviction in Kick It, and a few other songs.
But so be it. At least you bought it... :laugh: :xoxo: :wavey:

Stevie hates that album because she hates that period of her life. That's understandable.
But I still think she's wrong to distance herself so far from it... it's not the horrible train wreck of an album you and so many other people make it out to be. It's an album of rather subdued, "no frills" songs, which are ultimately beautiful. And, at times I find it to be quite inspired.
To me, at least.

But, as with anything "Stevie," I'd never expect everyone to love it or appreciate it, because it's all a matter of taste.

I'm listening to it now, as a matter of fact, and enjoying it immensely... as usual. :D

I like Greta, Just Like A Woman, and some of Street Angel. ;)

But that's it.

I think SA (the song) is beautifully written and paints a vivid picture :cool:

Good point. You don't like The Wild Heart, if I remember correctly? And I think that's insane..lol. But, I'll respect your opinion.

But,..I'm with Dissention on this one. Almost everything about Steet Angel blows. There are a few songs I enjoy...but overall... horrible singing + production + writing = one horrible album.

well, I'm glad you like those. I'm suprised you like just like a woman, but happy. That was my second fav. Of course, I like Bob, too, so...
ha, and i like Greta a lot.
that's why I don't buy many CD's, cause i usually only like 3-4-5 songs anyway. I hardly expect more (but i like it!).
So, I guess, you're about average when it comes to SA. :) Not too bad! I only like that many songs on most of Stevie's solo works :shrug:
"unlistenable songs, all the time...I wonder what Dissy would say..." :laugh:

Actually you don't remember correctly on that one, Danny... *lol*
I LOVE 'The Wild Heart,' and it's my favorite Stevie album. :nod: :D

'The Other Side Of The Mirror' is the one I have to be in the mood to listen to. Though, I have to say that when I AM in the mood to listen to it, I always enjoy it.

Damn! The old age is already affecting me!

I think I need to start taking Ginsing (sp?)...Ginseg..? f*ck what the hell is it called...

um, basically, you'll be like me...,. :lol:
I'm sure you'll have a strong command of utterly useless info... :laugh:

probably losing your car keys, cell phone, wallet, etc everyday like I do.

A few weeks ago I could not find my phone at all. I searched EVERYWHERE and called it about 27 times to see if I could hear it ringing. No luck. So I'm like screaming at my sisters & bro saying "ONE OF YOU TOOK IT I KNOW IT WHERE'SMYDAMNPHONE ETC.." so finally...I call it one more time. And my sister goes..wait..I can hear it...

Turns out it was in the hall closet. In my jacket. That I had worn that day. :rolleyes:

So yeah hopefully you don't get like me :lol: :laugh: :lol:

I completely agree and I think the same thing when i listen to it. When i first heard the song "blue denim" on the radio i was excited cause it sounded more rock and roll and straightforward to me. And most of the album follows suit.

How can anyone say she sounds like she didn't give a damn? Some of those vocals are so feisty (sp?) and energetic. Listen to the endings of "blue denim" and "love is like a river". But yet she can still convict her melancholy
in "rose garden" and "destiny" (although i don't listen much to the latter).

yeah, "jane" doesn't do much for me either. i've tried to like it. i really think it's the actual music for me. it sounds cheezy. i'm sorry ms. goodall.

i actually do too. i don't listen to TWH that much. It's not a bad album but just not one of my favorites. Maybe it's cause i heard it so much when it came out.


i could do without "jane", "just like a woman", and "listen to the rain". sorry, i love dylan but i just don't care for this version. I DO think they should have included, or replaced the songs above with "inspiration" and "god's garden."

still puzzled over why b-sides become such.

No, I'm the one who doesn't like The Wild Heart. :D I think most of it is cheesy.

I always said I wouldn't buy it unless it was a dollar. Well, about a year and a half ago I was at a little record shop called Tunes. It was in the dollar bin sooo I bought it :laugh: There are a few songs that I enjoy but it certainly is not my favorite album. Not much really catches my ear. It's lackluster, IMO.

Gingko. ;) :laugh: