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MikeBangle 07-17-2004 02:27 PM

Demos and Final Product
 
Question for ledgies..

With all the demos and such here and there out and about...

Which ones, if you compare them to the final recorded versions, are actually BETTER than the final difinitive recorded versions? The demo of Save Me comes to mind for me... What say you?


Thoughts?

MikeBangle

gldstwmn 07-17-2004 02:57 PM

Smile At You.

spiritchaser 07-17-2004 03:31 PM

planets of the universe

GardenStateGirlie 07-17-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Smile At You.

Am I the only person who likes both?? :shrug:

darklinensuit 07-17-2004 03:38 PM

I agree with Smile At You. I think the RTTG demo is slightly better, if only for the layered voices, though Stevie's vocal on the album is great. I'll add The Tower, though I do like Goodbye Baby. SOTM is one of the best piano demos, though again I like the album version almost as much. I like the angry Gypsy that's done with the Heartbreakers even more than the Mirage version. And if we're including solo, I'll add Greta, Jane, Love Is, and one I just forgot. :confused:

- Jake

stefan 07-17-2004 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Smile At You.

To me this demo is pure boredom. But I like the album version.

Johnny Stew 07-17-2004 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
Am I the only person who likes both?? :shrug:

No... I also like both versions of it. They each offer something different, but, in my opinion, equally cool. :)

Wild_Heart03 07-17-2004 04:17 PM

I actually prefer the demo version of Think About It (from the Rumours remaster) to the Bella Donna version, since it's a little more upbeat and more rock than the version on BD.

Hawkeye 07-17-2004 04:56 PM

the Think About It and Planets of the Universe demos from the Rumours reissue are far superior to their final products. Especiall Planets, that demo just really kicks the ass of the final product.

But Smile At You, yes like many of you I fell in love with that angry demo and that's what my hopes were for when I heard it would be on SYW, and for like a moment i was really diaspointed but have grown to like what Lindsey did even better then the demo, but I still often listen to that demo. But the new Smile At You is great.

Cristian 07-17-2004 05:10 PM

Ah, the 'angry' demo of "Smile At You" has a lot of more power in the performance (yes, even the vocal performance) than the released Say You Will version. I would think that's the only case... since in most of the demos, the final product is actually better.

Bryan 07-17-2004 06:34 PM

Not Make Believe..although I adore both versions

Lala 07-17-2004 07:28 PM

This probably isn't a popular opinion, but the GDW demo on the Rumours re-issue is just so gorgeous. The one thing that I kinda dislike about GDW is how dark it is. Don't get me wrong, sometimes I'm in that mood. But the bit of IYEDB at the end is just gorgeous and it turns it back into a Dreams, SS styled thing.

gldstwmn 07-17-2004 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild_Heart03
I actually prefer the demo version of Think About It (from the Rumours remaster) to the Bella Donna version, since it's a little more upbeat and more rock than the version on BD.

There are so many gorgeous versions of TAI. :)

sands of time 07-18-2004 12:41 AM

where do you get these demos?!?!?!? i feel so left out :(

jadegypsy 07-18-2004 01:00 AM

Demos
 
Nomad!

Stevie will never have that voice again, when I first heard the BN demo i was like "is that really Stevie?!

Oh and some of the demos can be found at buckinghamnicks.net

Wild_Heart03 07-18-2004 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
There are so many gorgeous versions of TAI. :)

The only demo I've heard of it is from the Rumours reissue... I didn't know there were other ones! :shrug: :laugh:

darklinensuit 07-18-2004 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jadegypsy
Nomad!

Stevie will never have that voice again, when I first heard the BN demo i was like "is that really Stevie?!

Oh and some of the demos can be found at buckinghamnicks.net

Great pick!

- Jake

dissention 07-18-2004 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie
Am I the only person who likes both?? :shrug:

Nope. I like them both, but the album version of Smile At You blows the demo version out of the water. Stevie really doesn't sing on the demo, she just screams a lot. I think the final version ahs some of her best vocals and the ending is just haunting. :wavey:

dissention 07-18-2004 08:58 AM

The piano demo of Sisters of the Moon is GOREGEOUS. One of the best things she ever recorded and MUCH better than the album verision.

I like the demo to Love Is more than the final version. The final version is just so maudlin and cheesy.

I prefer the demo to RTTG better because the dueling vocals are awesome. I was disappointed the SYW version didn't have them, they would've taken the song into another stratosphere.

Goodbye Baby on SYW is much better than the old piano demos. I love that whisper of a vocal, it's beautiful.

dissention 07-18-2004 08:59 AM

Also, the old Wild Heart version of Destiny is miles ahead of the awful Street Angel version. No cheesy sax. :thumbsup:

David 07-18-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Also, the old Wild Heart version of Destiny is miles ahead of the awful Street Angel version. No cheesy sax. :thumbsup:

The "demo" of All the Beautiful Worlds is prettier than the final-release version!

Oh, wait . . .

GardenStateGirlie 07-18-2004 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
No... I also like both versions of it. They each offer something different, but, in my opinion, equally cool. :)

I always look at it this way...at the time in her life when she recorded the angry version demo, she was just that... angry. You're not going to be able to match the intensity of the demo because IMO, it was totally an "in the moment" kind of thing. At any rate, I love them both. Same goes for POTU. I think in the demo version she seems kind of sad but on the TISL finished product, she sounds strong and incredibly powerful and at times, ticked off. I just think it's hard to compare a demo from years ago to the finished product. Living in the moment is a lot different than living in the past and I suppose it's all based on cirumstances surrounding her life as she's recording. I don't know...just something to think about :wavey:

darklinensuit 07-18-2004 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David
The "demo" of All the Beautiful Worlds is prettier than the final-release version!

Oh, wait . . .

You freaked me out for a second.

- Jake

darklinensuit 07-18-2004 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Also, the old Wild Heart version of Destiny is miles ahead of the awful Street Angel version. No cheesy sax. :thumbsup:

That's one of the few sax performances I like, along with Nothing Ever Changes and Talk To Me. Plus the harmonies at the end of the SA version are better than any of the demos.

- Jake

gldstwmn 07-18-2004 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild_Heart03
The only demo I've heard of it is from the Rumours reissue... I didn't know there were other ones! :shrug: :laugh:

Oh child! I have a piano rehearsal with Roy Bittan on piano and Stevie and the girls singing live with it. It's glorious. If you have AIM, I can do a transfer to you.

gldstwmn 07-18-2004 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David
The "demo" of All the Beautiful Worlds is prettier than the final-release version!

Oh, wait . . .

Heeeheee. :lol:

Lala 07-18-2004 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sands of time
where do you get these demos?!?!?!? i feel so left out :(

Keep your eye on http://www.throwndown.net/

It's the best way to keep track of all the bootlegs available. And there's lots of demos

wondergirl9847 07-18-2004 03:00 PM

Diss...
 
I agree, the RTTG demo (albeit, a crappy sounding version) is miles better than the SYW version!! I like those dueling vocals too. Wish there was a better sounding copy of it somewhere.

I love any version of Smile at You, that song just kicks a$$!!! I prefer The Tower to Goodbye Baby because I've always thought the timing was off on that version...it's off beat, and not in a good way. :distress:

shackin'up 07-18-2004 03:39 PM

weird.....
 
We are only talking Stevie's songs....

I like the demo/alternate take of That's Enough For Me more than the original.
Same with: A certain take on You'll Never Make Me Cry (not from the reissue, another one.)
I'm still wrestling with all the takes on IKINW, they all add something extra, but they're also lacking things that make the original brilliant.

And the alternate take on Eyes of the World is quite impressive, as is Brushes.

shackin'up 07-18-2004 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
[SIZE=2][FONT=Microsoft Sans Serif]I agree, the RTTG demo (albeit, a crappy sounding version) is miles better than the SYW version!! I like those dueling vocals too. Wish there was a better sounding copy of it somewhere.

Well, I'm not with ya here Christy:
Lindsey's guitarparts in the second half of the song still save the song for me. I never liked that demo. But those licks...whooooooooooo, they make me go

:blob1: :blob1:

Cristian 07-18-2004 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Same with: A certain take on You'll Never Make Me Cry (not from the reissue, another one.)

I forgot about that one! Someone posted a link to it here, some days before the Tusk reissue, and it was a really magnificent performance. I loved it... much more than the Tusk album version which I really love. :)

shackin'up 07-18-2004 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristian
I forgot about that one! Someone posted a link to it here, some days before the Tusk reissue, and it was a really magnificent performance. I loved it... much more than the Tusk album version which I really love. :)

So true! I meant that one!!! It's beautifully raw and dark....

wondergirl9847 07-18-2004 04:27 PM

Oooh....
 
The demo for NGBA (Brushes) is BRILLANT!! I love that one!!

Gerald, I like the SYW RTTG, but the demo is greatness, I just prefer it. :)

Just thought of another one...the EOTW demo I love!! :nod: I love the woah-oh-ohs.

shackin'up 07-18-2004 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wondergirl9847
Just thought of another one...the EOTW demo I love!! :nod: I love the woah-oh-ohs.

:nod: :nod: yeah, that's the one that I was talking about... :nod: :nod:

darklinensuit 07-18-2004 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Well, I'm not with ya here Christy:
Lindsey's guitarparts in the second half of the song still save the song for me. I never liked that demo. But those licks...whooooooooooo, they make me go

:blob1: :blob1:

I like the guitar part too. But the demo is still better. Plus she got rid of the "To CUT DOWN!" vocals that are so great on the demo.

- Jake

tynan88 07-18-2004 09:07 PM

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The "demo" of All the Beautiful Worlds is prettier than the final-release version!

Oh, wait . . .
Am I Missing Something??? :shrug:

Tynan

golddustwoman77 07-19-2004 08:42 PM

There is a version of "Sisters of the Moon," that I think is better than the album version (which I love). It is an awesome, demo version that has extra layers of Stevie vocals and Chris harmonies. It is just fabulous! :thumbsup:

David 07-19-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
Am I Missing Something??? :shrug:

Only a clue!

Wild_Heart03 07-19-2004 11:55 PM

Another one I thought of last night: the demo version of "That's Alright" from the Mirage sessions. I mean don't get me wrong, I still love the album version, but the demo version is completely awesome. :D

Johnny Stew 07-20-2004 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
Am I Missing Something??? :shrug:

Nah, David was just being facetious.
He has an impish sense of humour which he uses to spice up our conversations around here... but that sometimes throws people off when they're not familiar with his style. :nod: :)


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