View Full Version : NEW version of Thrown Down (spoiler thread!)
ERigby818
03-09-2003, 04:11 PM
WOW! This new version of Thrown Down ("shaking the faith") is totally different! It gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes. So much better than the one we've been hearing. I hope this is the final version. The guitar and tempo is reminiscent of Gypsy....but not too reminiscent.
The clip is on SaraRhiannon.com (http://www.sararhiannon.com/sayyouwill.html).
Sara, I am forever in your debt. You ROCK.
These harmonies convince me again that Lindsey and Stevie's voices still have that magic "timbre" Keith Olsen talked about in BTM...that these two voices are meant to sing together...after hearing the new Peacekeeper I needed just a little reassurance. This is it.
-Sonia
greatdarkwing
03-09-2003, 04:33 PM
Sonia, check your mail...;)
~Alex
silversprings8
03-09-2003, 05:02 PM
I LOVE THIS VERSION! So much better than the other one! The new lyrics are fabulous! Thanks for the info :) :) :)
BTW...
"Steal Your Heart Away"
and
"What's The World Coming To"
are also up on the site!!!!
secondhandchain
03-09-2003, 05:10 PM
I clicked on the link and can't find it....what am I doing wrong?
Or can someoneplease e-mail me?
Thanks alot!
[email protected]
stefan
03-09-2003, 05:12 PM
I like the sound and instrumentation and the verses better than from the version I knew (the other 2 versions better said, not counting the Stevie solo demo) The chorus... there I liked the other one better. But what will be the album version is hard to tell. Let`s wait and see.
silversprings8
03-09-2003, 05:13 PM
Go down to the Album section and it should have the track listing. Next to the tracks will be options to view the lyrics and for some of them, the option to download.
Hope this helps.
secondhandchain
03-09-2003, 05:19 PM
Wierd but I only have the "download" option next to "peacekeeper." Maybe it has been taken down allready? Oh well...but if someone could possibly E-mail me I'd be really grateful. Thanks
EMAIL
[email protected]
Hawkeye
03-09-2003, 05:21 PM
UH the only one up for download for ME is Peacekeeper.
strandinthewind
03-09-2003, 05:22 PM
Well, I certainly think this is an incredible version!!!!!!! What a diffrence. I, too, got a tear in the "shaking the faith" part. Whew!
Alison
03-09-2003, 05:25 PM
WoW, I almost cryed when I head the new throw down. I love the new verse about faith. Blew me away.
I love Stevies harmonies on Steal your heart away. I like these better than say you will clip.
I just can't wait for the album.
Alisonmusic
SeventhWonder
03-09-2003, 05:48 PM
Maybe I'm the only one, but I really prefer the older version of Thrown Down that was floating around. To me, although Stevie is singing in a lower key, her vocal has much more feeling in the older version. And, I don't really like the new phrasing. To tell the truth, i'm very dissapointed ....Also what happened to this verse:
You say you're sorry
Now you should walk a way
But it's so overwhelming
You have nothing left to say
You can sit outside your door and wait
Well you can dedicate your pain to him
???
If they cut that from the song, I will be even more dissapointed. That was my favorite part of it!:distress:
Dan:distress: :distress:
Maybe it will grow on me....
BlueGrass
03-09-2003, 06:05 PM
How does "What's The World Coming To" sound?
ERigby818
03-09-2003, 06:07 PM
I doubt they got rid of the gorgeous "You say you're sorry" verse, and here's why: On fleetwoodmac.com they show a little black and white clip of them (I don't know if it's still there but it was a couple days ago, and not for FC members only either) and Stevie is singing THAT verse. So I doubt they would have that little sample of that particular part of the song on the official website if it's not gonna be part of the album. Remember, this is just a clip.
Thrown Down had the first impact on me when I heard it in raw TISL demo form. It blew my mind. That version is so passionate, but very unpolished.
-Sonia
Wldhrt315
03-09-2003, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by BlueGrass
How does "What's The World Coming To" sound?
Really good!!!!!!
Wldhrt315
03-09-2003, 06:31 PM
OMG!!!! What is up with that whole new verse???? I think we lost the "you say your sorry" verse. I am going to be heartbroken. That just means that I will have to add both versions onto a CD. Its ok now that I think about it. That "you say your sorry" verse will just be even more special.
BlueGrass
03-09-2003, 06:46 PM
Can someone please post the other version of "Thrown Down" in MP3 that leaked just before the new year?
Thanks
wow...this song has really evolved into something wonderful...it reminds me of "gypsy" and "sara" (maybe more of the live versions)....it's got a very similar rhythm...i'm thinking the "you say you're sorry" verse may be at the end? anyway, i didn't like the demo very much...then, when we got the first version it still wasn't that special...i thought stevie's voice was harder and there was nothing really special instrumentally speaking...plus, i didn't think the lyrics were saying that much...BUT BUT BUT!!!!! with this new verse it gives the whole song a new dimension. it's fabulous and i'm pleasantly surprised...i hope this IS the version on the record. Right now, i'm listening to "Destiny Rules" and i have renewed faith in FM!
Oh yea, definitely.....this version is MUCH better. I guess it was the layering or "wall of sound" mentioned in another thread that kind of turned me off to the song. I think it has a "Gypsy-like" sound to it now..... very cool. And Stevie's vocals are a lot more focal in the song...she sounds awesome, better than she did on TISL.
Joe
strandinthewind
03-09-2003, 07:14 PM
You know I was thinking (an alarm should go off now saying run away for your life!!!!;) ), do you think that one of these version of Thrown Down is from the Dallas Austin (big R&B producer) TISL recording sessions here in Atlanta in 1999-2000? The two musical versions I have heard are so musically different, I was thinking that. However, it is just a hunch as my invitation(s) to the recording sessions and parties failed to arrive when she was here!!!:laugh: :wavey:
Canuck Fan
03-09-2003, 07:19 PM
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Canuck Fan
03-09-2003, 07:20 PM
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deribish
03-09-2003, 07:22 PM
I've been trying to avoid listening to any of the new tracks until 4/15- but since I now know that the Jan 03 Thrown Down is NOT the album version, (I'd love to hear it. If anyone has a copy of the older FM thrown Down (not the TISL version) would you mind sending it to me?
thanks so very much in advance.
-Derek
[email protected]
Steve
03-09-2003, 08:20 PM
Now that's the way it should be done!!:nod:
dmartnyc
03-09-2003, 08:25 PM
I am torn. While I love the new verse, I am not as happy with Stevie's vocals. In general, she is singing in a much lower register and without as much passion. I hear this particularly in the first verse and the chorus. Of course, I may have just gotten too used to the version we have all had since Christmas...
Christopher
03-09-2003, 08:29 PM
-Derek, check your e-mail- I sent you the Thrown Down Outtake, its a zip file..I hope that works...if not this version is all over WinMX or Kaaza.
Back to the topic of the new Thrown Down..//..This new arrangement is beautiful....the softer approach, matches the message and delivery of Stevie's lyrical yearning much much better!!!!!....and I love that Stevie is singing it in a higher pitch than the wall of sound, musically more aggressive outtake.,...I am beyond pleased with this version and song now, the new lyrics DO give it more depth.... and puts the song more on par with some of Lindsey and Stevies' better collaborations...But I'm still happy that we all have the outtake to cherish as well....
AND I gotta mention.....I am sooooo in Love with the additional harmony Stevie provides on all these new song clips....just Friggin' Delicious!!! Christine WHO?? is right!
Im so ready for the new CD now!!.....Can you all EVEN imagine HOW Smile at you & Running thru the garden are going to sound:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
sparky
03-09-2003, 09:09 PM
Wow. I like this sound much more. The spare production really allows the song to breathe, and I think the higher key vocal makes a huge difference. There is definity a "Mirage" vibe to this version, and the guitar reminds me of "Fireflies" and the live "Sara."
DownOnRodeo
03-10-2003, 03:05 AM
Oh man!
I didn't cry (because "I'm a MAN!" lol) but.... very close!!! I think I'm in shock and will report back later! lol
This guitar work at the beginning - Stevies amazing vocals - the outstanding lyrical and vocal duet between Lindsey and Stevie - this is too much!
strandinthewind
03-10-2003, 07:49 AM
Down on Rodeo, you took the words out of my mouth!
This new sound (esp. the great opening chords) is so "out of the blue" when compared to the "wall of ound" one. Moreover, their harmonies in the "Shaking the Faith" part are incredible and even more so is the almost pleading nature of Stevie's voice in the "You're not like other people" part. I am still in shock the morning after!!!!:D :D
DownOnRodeo
03-10-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Christopher
Can you all EVEN imagine HOW Smile at you & Running thru the garden are going to sound
I'm doing my best not to! Or I would have even less hope concentrating on uni!
I love how the tracklist bunches combos together: 'WTWCT' and 'Murrow', then later you have 'Smile At You' and 'RTTG'.
Gonna make for some fiiiine BN FM listnin'!
CarneVaca
03-10-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by strandinthewind
You know I was thinking (an alarm should go off now saying run away for your life!!!!;) ), do you think that one of these version of Thrown Down is from the Dallas Austin (big R&B producer) TISL recording sessions here in Atlanta in 1999-2000? The two musical versions I have heard are so musically different, I was thinking that. However, it is just a hunch as my invitation(s) to the recording sessions and parties failed to arrive when she was here!!!:laugh: :wavey:
I'll have to listen to the other version of Thrown Down that leaked out three months ago, but I am inclined to believe this newer version and the older one have the same instrumentation. I haven't checked the keys, which if they are different would mean the song was rerecorded. But what happens on the newer version is this: The layers of sound were panned differently and mixed at different volumes from the earlier version. For instance, the muted guitar effect on this version is way up front, whereas in the other version it was further in the back. Also, I noted the arpeggio is lower in the mix in the new version, bu it's still there adding a nice texture.
What's undeniably new is the new verse, which I believe gives more cohesion to the song. I think the new words are an improvement. And I also like the layered mix, as opposed to the denser production of the older version.
seteca
03-10-2003, 09:17 PM
I really like this new version, sounds very nice indeed, but I prefer the other version: I just wish the arpeggiated guitar was left at the same level as in the version we heard 3 months ago...I really liked that sound. It's practically absent from this version to the extent where it's changed the melody of the verse(s), slightly for the worse. It's lost its slight "darkness" factor which I really enjoyed in the other one. This version sounds much more bright and happy.
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:
Cristian
03-10-2003, 09:34 PM
I remember how astonished I was when I heard the "leaked" version of "Thrown Down" three months ago, and how much I liked the fact that "the new Fleetwood Mac" sound would be like that... Given the fact that I actually like very much the available snippets of the Say You Will tracks (especially the opener and the title track, dare I say), I think I liked the previous version of "Thrown Down" a little more, perhaps because of that more 'ellaborated' song that was built around it. It had those beautiful guitar parts and some keyboards that, apparently, are lost in this faster (I think it's faster) version. It's still a great song, anyway.
Song of the moment - Say You Will
Sugar
03-10-2003, 10:14 PM
Aside from Stevie's delivery of "You do what you want to..." in this newer one, which I adore, I must say I prefer the "leaked one". There's an urgency conveyed by Lindsey's guitar and the vocals in the chorus that I'm just not getting in the newer one.
DownOnRodeo
03-11-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by seteca
This version sounds much more bright and happy.
That's funny because I thought the sparse arrangement and emphasis on that haunting guitar part, made it much darker - or at least 'real', like 'Dreams' was real ... whereas the glossy Spector-fest from 3 months ago was just - ugh, the fact is it was so washy and confused it gave me zero emotional impact.
Street Angel
03-11-2003, 04:12 AM
I agree, the new version sounds a little darker than the previously known version. I definitely prefer this new recording. To me, this version has got some of the atmosphere that "Gypsy" has.
strandinthewind
03-11-2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
That's funny because I thought the sparse emphasis and emphasis on that haunting guitar part, made it much darker - or at least 'real', like 'Dreams' was real ... whereas the glossy Spector-fest from 3 months ago was just - ugh, the fact is it was so washy and confused it gave me zero emotional impact.
I agree. I esp. like that killer opening guitar which I did not hear in the "old" one. I also think her voice also sounds way less "electronic" in the new one.
ADAM_EVE
03-11-2003, 11:33 AM
Could someone please send me an mp3 version of any of the new songs. I can't seem to get any of them to work.
Matt
[email protected]
SeventhWonder
03-11-2003, 01:25 PM
Hey Adam Eve--
I tried sending you the songs but it would only let me send you a few of them. Once your mailbox is empty and you have room, let me know and I'll send you the ones you didn't get. (let me know which ones they were)
Dan:wavey:
sodascouts
03-11-2003, 01:32 PM
I like this version so much better! I used to think Thrown Down dragged, but this change in the verse spices things up and keeps your interest going. The lyrics, because there's more of them in that verse, lol, go faster and the pace isn't as drawn out.
I am SOOOO glad this is the version for the album! It's simply a more enjoyable song now, IMO.
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