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Macfan4life
02-11-2024, 04:24 PM
She changed up the set for this leg. She does a cover of Stop Children What's That Sound. Leather and Lace is back in the set with her vocal coach.
This is an excellent quality video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUOOfi2HYb8
UnwindedDreams
02-11-2024, 05:07 PM
The Stop Children What's That Sound song is called For What It's Worth. She's been performing it in her setlist since September 2022. I didn't watch the video. How is her energy?
Interesting she put a hit back in but doesn't do her second biggest hit!
Macfan4life
02-11-2024, 05:49 PM
The Stop Children What's That Sound song is called For What It's Worth. She's been performing it in her setlist since September 2022. I didn't watch the video. How is her energy?
Interesting she put a hit back in but doesn't do her second biggest hit!
I'm confused. I got What Its Worth confused with Show Them The Way (the titles, not the song). I don't listen to new Stevie music and I suppose it shows :eek:
UnwindedDreams
02-11-2024, 06:09 PM
I'm confused. I got What Its Worth confused with Show Them The Way (the titles, not the song). I don't listen to new Stevie music and I suppose it shows :eek:
That's fine! She never performed Show Them The Way on stage nevertheless there isn't any footage of her singing it. The music video only has her walking down a hall and sitting at a piano - not singing.
Here's For What It's Worth. And it's not For What It's Worth from her album In Your Dreams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_39eAx3z8
BrownEyedGirl26
02-11-2024, 09:13 PM
She changed up the set for this leg. She does a cover of Stop Children What's That Sound. Leather and Lace is back in the set with her vocal coach.
This is an excellent quality video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUOOfi2HYb8
This was fabulous! She looks so happy and in the groove. The only thing I would change, would be to shorten 'Gold Dust Woman' and to recreate the haunting American Indian sound, without the, out of control, dance towards the end. 'That's alright', would of, also, have been a positive addition to this set.:nod: Just my opinion, of course!:laugh:
UnwindedDreams
02-11-2024, 09:36 PM
Free Fallin’ will never leave her setlist. It’ll be in there when she’s singing at 90. She said she never really met Stephen Stills. There’s a great photo of Stephen, Young, and perhaps Jagger online from the Ertegun celebration of life.
For What it’s Worth has also become a must play for her.
Edit: I found the photo! https://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/neil-young-stevie-nicks-mick-jagger-and-stephen-stills-news-photo/109674847
stevierocks87
02-12-2024, 02:38 PM
I was sure there was a "snooze" emoticon but nope.
This has to be the most stale she has ever been. Same awful outfit, boring ass set. I'm so glad I saw her solo for the last time in 2016 when she was actually taking some chances and doing some new things.
How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something differnent.
That being said, she is honestly the most popular I have ever seen her in my lifetime so I guess it's working for the average fan. People rave over these shows. I don't get it.
HomerMcvie
02-12-2024, 03:01 PM
I was sure there was a "snooze" emoticon but nope.
This has to be the most stale she has ever been. Same awful outfit, boring ass set. I'm so glad I saw her solo for the last time in 2016 when she was actually taking some chances and doing some new things.
How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something differnent.
That being said, she is honestly the most popular I have ever seen her in my lifetime so I guess it's working for the average fan. People rave over these shows. I don't get it.
I think the popularity is because of her age. When ~legends~ are approaching death, all of the sudden their popularity peaks. Johnny Cash was dropped by Columbia Records in his 60's, after DECADES with them. But then in his 70's, he was back, more popular than ever.
And I also think that people who have never seen them, think, "wow, we've never seen her...this might be our last chance!"
UnwindedDreams
02-12-2024, 06:41 PM
I think the popularity is because of her age. When ~legends~ are approaching death, all of the sudden their popularity peaks. Johnny Cash was dropped by Columbia Records in his 60's, after DECADES with them. But then in his 70's, he was back, more popular than ever.
And I also think that people who have never seen them, think, "wow, we've never seen her...this might be our last chance!"
I agree and I also think her public friendship with Harry Styles helps. But back to the reasoning you gave, I was watching a Madonna podcast and a fan on there said they bought tickets to see Stevie after Christine passed away because they regretted not seeing Fleetwood Mac. They said I’ve got to see Stevie before it’s too late.
UnwindedDreams
02-12-2024, 06:50 PM
I was sure there was a "snooze" emoticon but nope.
This has to be the most stale she has ever been. Same awful outfit, boring ass set. I'm so glad I saw her solo for the last time in 2016 when she was actually taking some chances and doing some new things.
How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something differnent.
That being said, she is honestly the most popular I have ever seen her in my lifetime so I guess it's working for the average fan. People rave over these shows. I don't get it.
2 years ago she told The New Yorker she had written the best song of her career. 3 and a half years ago she said Show Them The Way was up there with Edge of Seventeen and Stand Back. Yet these songs haven’t been performed. This is the same Stevie Nicks we’ve seen a million times. The shows aren’t for her die hard fans, they’re for rich people who have no clue that Bella Donna is an album of hers.
soul_drifter333
02-12-2024, 08:48 PM
Things and people are really strange right now. Fans and consumers should be banding together to boycott the outrageous ticket prices, but it is just the opposite. As long as there is a demand the price will continue to rise. It's particularly ridiculous to pay that much for veteran artists who have seen better days, years, and decades. The bands and promoters realize what's happening now so they all want to go on the road to rake in the profits. I can't help but think that many of the people paying these prices can't even afford to pay their own bills, but they will help to make these millionaires even richer. And don't even get me started on Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing scheme. :shocked:
I was sure there was a "snooze" emoticon but nope.
This has to be the most stale she has ever been. Same awful outfit, boring ass set. I'm so glad I saw her solo for the last time in 2016 when she was actually taking some chances and doing some new things.
How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something differnent.
That being said, she is honestly the most popular I have ever seen her in my lifetime so I guess it's working for the average fan. People rave over these shows. I don't get it.
UnwindedDreams
02-13-2024, 09:32 AM
Things and people are really strange right now. Fans and consumers should be banding together to boycott the outrageous ticket prices, but it is just the opposite. As long as there is a demand the price will continue to rise. It's particularly ridiculous to pay that much for veteran artists who have seen better days, years, and decades. The bands and promoters realize what's happening now so they all want to go on the road to rake in the profits. I can't help but think that many of the people paying these prices can't even afford to pay their own bills, but they will help to make these millionaires even richer. And don't even get me started on Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing scheme. :shocked:
And Stevie has been on the same tour for two years now. Charging people thousands for one seat somewhat close to the stage. But the people are buying it! She's not singing high notes either for that high amount of money people pay. At least Bruce does!
Villavic
02-13-2024, 11:34 AM
And Stevie has been on the same tour for two years now. Charging people thousands for one seat somewhat close to the stage. But the people are buying it! She's not singing high notes either for that high amount of money people pay. At least Bruce does!
I think they are satisfied with the show they watched. Or are there negative reviews? I remember reading about the last Whitney Houston tour, the problems with her voice, strain and coughs. And disappointed people leaving before it was over.
UnwindedDreams
02-13-2024, 12:56 PM
I think they are satisfied with the show they watched. Or are there negative reviews? I remember reading about the last Whitney Houston tour, the problems with her voice, strain and coughs. And disappointed people leaving before it was over.
Were people satisfied at the Newark, NJ reunion tour show you saw where Lindsey's voice sounded terrible? Were there negative reviews?
Villavic
02-13-2024, 04:28 PM
Were people satisfied at the Newark, NJ reunion tour show you saw where Lindsey's voice sounded terrible? Were there negative reviews?
Good point, it's a good example. Though I must admit Lindsey's voice hit rock bottom that night. It sounded much worse than Stevie's voice I've heard in last year tour clips I saw in Instagram. And yes I didn't read any negative review, though I didn't look for. But I remember I've read about his exhausted voice in the past.
Anyway, I wouldn't go see any of them currently.
UnwindedDreams
02-14-2024, 01:36 PM
Good point, it's a good example. Though I must admit Lindsey's voice hit rock bottom that night. It sounded much worse than Stevie's voice I've heard in last year tour clips I saw in Instagram. And yes I didn't read any negative review, though I didn't look for. But I remember I've read about his exhausted voice in the past.
Anyway, I wouldn't go see any of them currently.
I haven't seen any press about the Stevie concert. My point was that if Stevie, Lindsey, Bruce, or even Bono for that matter are charging thousands to sit up close... I think they should be trying for the high notes. As a Stevie fan, I know she doesn't hit the Go Home in Gold Dust Woman anymore, the Take Me Home in Stand Back and a number of other songs. Sure, it's a great time but it's my feeling that they should be pushing their voices and not being complacent; Bruce Springsteen pushes and goes for the notes.
UnwindedDreams
02-15-2024, 10:18 AM
Stevie played in Queens New York last night and the setlist was the same as last year except no Sara and I Sing For The Things. Leather and Lace is the only thing that’s “new.” This tour reminds me of the post TISL days so much. Covers in her setlist and casino crowd setlists. So disappointing being a Stevie fan.
Steviegirl
02-15-2024, 10:36 AM
So disappointing and agree with just about everything here. This Stevie has become unrecognizable in so many ways, and after being a fan for such a long time, it is inexplicable that people are praising these tired, BORING, unimaginative, rambling, EMBARRASSING sets. I have boycotted since Lindsey's firing, but I'm not sure I'd be going anyway. The prices are ridiculous, and the show is a bummer. I'm going to Avett Brothers at Red Rocks and will see the Dirty Heads and maybe even the Stones in Philly this year, but the thought of an overpriced Stevie concert is out of the question. It's too depressing...AND expensive. Ugh.
BigAl84
02-15-2024, 10:53 AM
What really sucks is this new touring model of perpetual blocks of dates, year after year - it only encourages the show and setlist to be set in stone. All the spontaneity is removed from the set so it doesn't matter if it's been 3 weeks or 3 months since the last show, everyone can fly in and do the show with barely a soundcheck. She's even using the majority of the same stage/production elements from the 24k Gold Tour from '16-'17. They might add a new horse to the carousel from time to time like they've done with L&L/ISFTT - but other than that, it's the same carousel and the same ride every time. She could easily add in 3 additional songs to the set just by cutting the amount of story time by half.
HomerMcvie
02-15-2024, 11:51 AM
What really sucks is this new touring model of perpetual blocks of dates, year after year - it only encourages the show and setlist to be set in stone. All the spontaneity is removed from the set so it doesn't matter if it's been 3 weeks or 3 months since the last show, everyone can fly in and do the show with barely a soundcheck. She's even using the majority of the same stage/production elements from the 24k Gold Tour from '16-'17. They might add a new horse to the carousel from time to time like they've done with L&L/ISFTT - but other than that, it's the same carousel and the same ride every time. She could easily add in 3 additional songs to the set just by cutting the amount of story time by half.
But there are people who love to hear her stories...HER!
You would think her band get stale and fed up with the same old, same old.
I’m not a musician and I realise they have to earn a living..
But as artists, it must be boring..
BigAl84
02-15-2024, 01:38 PM
You would think her band get stale and fed up with the same old, same old.
I’m not a musician and I realise they have to earn a living..
But as artists, it must be boring..
The show certainly isn't helped by the fact that the majority of the band stands on a platform behind Stevie & Waddy. There's minimal interaction or movement between band members as they're playing. Waddy is really the only person moving on stage besides Stevie.
My guess is, the money is good and it's a relatively easy gig because it's the same thing every night, for the most part. The whole band is probably on a retainer for the whole year so they're getting paid even if there is a 3 month break in the tour.
UnwindedDreams
02-15-2024, 10:20 PM
So disappointing and agree with just about everything here. This Stevie has become unrecognizable in so many ways, and after being a fan for such a long time, it is inexplicable that people are praising these tired, BORING, unimaginative, rambling, EMBARRASSING sets. I have boycotted since Lindsey's firing, but I'm not sure I'd be going anyway. The prices are ridiculous, and the show is a bummer. I'm going to Avett Brothers at Red Rocks and will see the Dirty Heads and maybe even the Stones in Philly this year, but the thought of an overpriced Stevie concert is out of the question. It's too depressing...AND expensive. Ugh.
I agree. I thought after she released and toured In Your Dreams that we got Stevie the artist anymore. She was singing 7 new songs in her set.
BrownEyedGirl26
02-17-2024, 05:43 AM
I was sure there was a "snooze" emoticon but nope.
This has to be the most stale she has ever been. Same awful outfit, boring ass set. I'm so glad I saw her solo for the last time in 2016 when she was actually taking some chances and doing some new things.
How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something different.
That being said, she is honestly the most popular I have ever seen her in my lifetime so I guess it's working for the average fan. People rave over these shows. I don't get it.
"How hard would it be to throw on a different shawl or cool vintage outfit to throw us a tiny bone of something different".
I agree here. We don't ask for much. Just a healthy, happy Stevie with a few different outfits and shawls, like she used to wear. A few different songs and us fans are happy again.:]
UnwindedDreams
02-18-2024, 08:23 AM
Stevie performed in Baltimore last night and it was the same casino setlist. And the energy level is low. Nowhere near Mick Jagger, Cher, Bruce Springsteen, Patti Smith, Debbie Harry, Nancy Wilson, or Madonna. Two years later and still no new songs in the setlist!
sleepless child
02-18-2024, 08:32 AM
I'm so tired of Free Falling. Yes we lost Tom Petty and it is very sad, but still 7 years later you are still honoring him. It's been a year since Chris passed. I feel like it's a shtick for her. A way to get sympathy or it's just laziness on her part. Keep the wheel turning. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Villavic
02-18-2024, 08:58 AM
. Nowhere near Mick Jagger, Cher, Bruce Springsteen, Patti Smith, Debbie Harry, Nancy Wilson, or Madonna.
Cher? Is she on the road again? I saw her in 2010 (Vegas) and I was quite disappointed. She acted very reluctant. Stevie performed far better in 2014 (On with the Show). Though to me OWTS was the end to me. Thhe concert was great, but their voices were barely decent.
Macfan4life
02-18-2024, 01:32 PM
I'm so tired of Free Falling. Yes we lost Tom Petty and it is very sad, but still 7 years later you are still honoring him. It's been a year since Chris passed. I feel like it's a shtick for her. A way to get sympathy or it's just laziness on her part. Keep the wheel turning. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I hate to say it but it always was shtick for her. During Free Falling she is still putting up the Tom Petty tribute? Is she still doing a Prince tribute with all those photoshopped photos of them together like him playing guitar behind her. Prince was the one that begged his assistant to keep her away from him.
(this next comment is not for you but for everyone)
At her age and being an oldies act this set is what they want. She's not playing these songs for the fans of The Ledge. She's playing for the casual fans that go to concerts. They want Gold Dust Woman, Stand Back, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gypsy.
BTW, has anyone heard the latest Gypsy story. OMG now she's talking about how she was so poor she was before joining Fleetwood Mac. Now that she came into money her mother told her to hire an accountant. She told her mom when she joined Fleetwood Mac that poor people don't pay taxes when her mom suggested hiring an accountant to file her taxes. Earth to Stevie: Poor people may not pay taxes but they FILE taxes. Its the law Stevie. Your mom was telling you the truth. But she did solve a riddle we all questioned. Stevie and Lindsey got $400 EACH per week, not combined. $1600 per month was lots of money in 1975 considering they never had a hit record yet.
UnwindedDreams
02-18-2024, 01:51 PM
Cher? Is she on the road again? I saw her in 2010 (Vegas) and I was quite disappointed. She acted very reluctant. Stevie performed far better in 2014 (On with the Show). Though to me OWTS was the end to me. Thhe concert was great, but their voices were barely decent.
Cher hasn’t toured since early March 2020. She might be the most COVID-19 cautious artist.
Anyway, I’ve seen Cher live multiple times and I’ve felt she’s been more energetic on stage than Stevie. Here’s a video of her at age 72.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-Rh_AY0yU&pp=ygUcU3Ryb25nIGVub3VnaCBjaGVyIHRvdXIgMjAxOA%3D%3D
Stevie twirls maybe three times in a show now.
For hardcore fans that want to see Stevie, these setlists are an abomination.
I hate to say it but it always was shtick for her. During Free Falling she is still putting up the Tom Petty tribute? Is she still doing a Prince tribute with all those photoshopped photos of them together like him playing guitar behind her. Prince was the one that begged his assistant to keep her away from him.
(this next comment is not for you but for everyone)
At her age and being an oldies act this set is what they want. She's not playing these songs for the fans of The Ledge. She's playing for the casual fans that go to concerts. They want Gold Dust Woman, Stand Back, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gypsy.
BTW, has anyone heard the latest Gypsy story. OMG now she's talking about how she was so poor she was before joining Fleetwood Mac. Now that she came into money her mother told her to hire an accountant. She told her mom when she joined Fleetwood Mac that poor people don't pay taxes when her mom suggested hiring an accountant to file her taxes. Earth to Stevie: Poor people may not pay taxes but they FILE taxes. Its the law Stevie. Your mom was telling you the truth. But she did solve a riddle we all questioned. Stevie and Lindsey got $400 EACH per week, not combined. $1600 per month was lots of money in 1975 considering they never had a hit record yet.
Stevie was never poor in her life. She’s exhausting
Villavic
02-18-2024, 04:15 PM
She's not playing these songs for the fans of The Ledge. She's playing for the casual fans that go to concerts. They want Gold Dust Woman, Stand Back, Rhiannon, Dreams, Gypsy.
I agree with this. As a ledgie I was happy FM played Storms in 2009, and it would have been more than exciting if they included more non usual hits on their latest tours.
But as a casual fan, if I had gone to see Tina Turner, Eagles or Rolling Stones, I would expect and be happy with the typical hits. Or dissapointed if they didn't include the greatest. That's the argument Glenn Frey used to convince Randy to not stop singing Take It to the Limit.
And of course there's the money factor, too. Bands look to please casual fans because they are the majority.
HomerMcvie
02-18-2024, 04:17 PM
Stevie was never poor in her life. She’s exhausting
She's always the victim.
Macfan4life
02-18-2024, 06:53 PM
This is the latest Gypsy story. It started in 2014 about buying cool outfits and the people of the velvet underground. Now its transformed into it was her decision to join Fleetwood Mac, she was so poor that she never filed taxes, and slept on a mattress on the floor when she was rich and successful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxFv893yeD4&list=FL6I68YU_gCCnh-QoFo9eUVw&index=11&t=311s
HomerMcvie
02-18-2024, 08:56 PM
She's LITERALLY THE MOST RIDICULOUS PERSON EVER.
Completely delusional.
UnwindedDreams
02-19-2024, 09:08 PM
I think the Gypsy bed on the floor started on the Mac's 2009 Tour.
She's also saying she visited Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval starting in 2002. She first went in the summer of 2005.
She said she sang Fall From Grace for one tour and never did it since then. Fall From Grace was performed on every tour from 2001-2011.
I don't know why Karen doesn't hand her a fact sheet before each show.
BrownEyedGirl26
02-19-2024, 10:04 PM
I think the Gypsy bed on the floor started on the Mac's 2009 Tour.
She's also saying she visited Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval starting in 2002. She first went in the summer of 2005.
She said she sang Fall From Grace for one tour and never did it since then. Fall From Grace was performed on every tour from 2001-2011.
I don't know why Karen doesn't hand her a fact sheet before each show.
I saw her sing this at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas on 5/14/2005. It is even on YouTube.
These incorrect, concert history date, facts are just a distraction for fans, when we just want her to care about her career enough, to make us want to spend our hard earned money to go to see her!:wavey:
UnwindedDreams
02-20-2024, 06:15 AM
I saw her sing this at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas on 5/14/2005. It is even on YouTube.
These incorrect, concert history date, facts are just a distraction for fans, when we just want her to care about her career enough, to make us want to spend our hard earned money to go to see her!:wavey:
I've seen her do Fall From Grace on tours other than TISL as well.
I want her to care about her career enough to make a new album!
BigAl84
02-20-2024, 10:03 AM
I hate to say it but it always was shtick for her. During Free Falling she is still putting up the Tom Petty tribute? Is she still doing a Prince tribute with all those photoshopped photos of them together like him playing guitar behind her. Prince was the one that begged his assistant to keep her away from him.
The recent exaggeration of her brief interactions with Prince are really eye opening. For literally decades, there was very little mention of those two being "friends" on any level nor did she speak much about him. Yes she attended Purple Rain premier and she has told the story about hanging out with him for an afternoon in Minnesota. That was pretty much it. Was it even public knowledge that he played on Stand Back until she spilled the beans on VH1 Storytellers in 1998?
Peggy's (Prince's studio engineer) recollection of Stevie is sad and hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG3e7GuC80
Macfan4life
02-20-2024, 01:23 PM
The recent exaggeration of her brief interactions with Prince are really eye opening. For literally decades, there was very little mention of those two being "friends" on any level nor did she speak much about him. Yes she attended Purple Rain premier and she has told the story about hanging out with him for an afternoon in Minnesota. That was pretty much it. Was it even public knowledge that he played on Stand Back until she spilled the beans on VH1 Storytellers in 1998?
Peggy's (Prince's studio engineer) recollection of Stevie is sad and hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KG3e7GuC80
Prince on Stand Back was known in 1983. She was asked on MTV by Mark why he was not given credit. Supposedly he requested not to be credited but accepted 50% of the royalties. That's a typical douche Prince move. Don't give me credit but pay me.
During that Storytellers segment she says that Prince came in, did his little keyboard part and then walked out of her life. She was invited to the Purple Rain premiere but left in the middle and ran to the bathroom. Prince confronted her about it which means it upset him.
Its clear that Prince wanted nothing to do with her. When she met him in the 80s she was a major drug addict. Prince was not into that stuff (then). I am speculating that is why she went to the bathroom during Purple Rain. Didn't Stevie say he brought her cough medicine in bed once and made a comment like she did not want to get addicted to another substance. That's pretty blunt.
This is what she said about Prince in 1998. They had a non-relationship:
In 1998, Stevie revealed that the song was about her relationship with Prince. “‘Thousand Days’ was written about my non-relationship with Prince,” Nicks said, who had earlier composed “Stand Back” with him — although she notes he’s never called her back “to set up his payment on 50%” of the latter. “Days” recounts an abortive, all-night ’80s recording session with him at his Minneapolis home during a Fleetwood Mac tour, climaxing with Nicks “smoking my pot — he didn’t agree with my lifestyle — and going to sleep on Prince’s floor in his kitchen. I like him, but we were just so different there was no possible meeting ground.” (Modern Records, 1998)
Can you imagine her passed out on Prince's kitchen floor. In her song she say he dragged her up the stairs.
OMG she coulnn't walk :lol:
greendaze5
02-20-2024, 03:24 PM
About Stevie and Prince, dancer Brad Jeffries who appeared in Stevie's videos mentioned this at his 'Quora' page (https://www.quora.com/Who-was-a-better-dancer-Michael-Jackson-or-Prince):
"I met both men (meaning Michael Jackson and Prince) during my career and was more honored to have spent a couple of occasions in the Purple One’s presence.
Upon watching a music video I had danced in with Stevie Nicks, (Prince had contributed a synth track that really “made” the song), he turned to me and smiled and said quite sincerely, "I wish I could turn like you”, with his signature quiet tone.
I was sitting on a couch between Stevie and Prince at the time, as Stevie was showing it to us on the eve of its M.T.V. debut the following day, and I was so shocked by his compliment I believe I mumbled something inane like, “Well I wish I could do EVERYTHING else like YOU”. Hey, I was 22 at the time and still young enough to get tongue tied in the presence of greatness. Fun times".
DownOnRodeo
02-20-2024, 07:48 PM
"I was sitting on a couch between Stevie and Prince at the time"
Yep, we've all been there.
UnwindedDreams
02-20-2024, 08:33 PM
About Stevie and Prince, dancer Brad Jeffries who appeared in Stevie's videos mentioned this at his 'Quora' page (https://www.quora.com/Who-was-a-better-dancer-Michael-Jackson-or-Prince)
Brad was at Stevie's show in Raleigh last year. If you read his Quora, he hates Lindsey.
HomerMcvie
02-21-2024, 03:04 AM
Brad was at Stevie's show in Raleigh last year. If you read his Quora, he hates Lindsey.
Because he was groomed by $tevie?
Macfan4life
02-21-2024, 08:36 AM
Reading the Prince story again is so sad. He helped her craft one of her biggest solo hits. She gets invited to his house for a recording session. He is the hottest hit maker at the time. Imagine what could have happened. Instead it was an aborted recording session with Stevie passed out on the kitchen floor. She needed him more than ever since her solo career was fizzling. Yet it was not about making music anymore and she embarrassed herself in front of him. 30 + years later she's paying tribute to him with photoshopped photos as if they were great friends.
BrownEyedGirl26
02-21-2024, 09:16 PM
Reading the Prince story again is so sad. He helped her craft one of her biggest solo hits. She gets invited to his house for a recording session. He is the hottest hit maker at the time. Imagine what could have happened. Instead it was an aborted recording session with Stevie passed out on the kitchen floor. She needed him more than ever since her solo career was fizzling. Yet it was not about making music anymore and she embarrassed herself in front of him. 30 + years later she's paying tribute to him with photoshopped photos as if they were great friends.
A very kind summary of this time, Macfan4life!:xoxo:
Yet another, very bad decision and lost opportunity for them to have created great music together for their careers and for their fans! Just saying!:shrug:
Macfan4life
02-22-2024, 05:35 AM
A very kind summary of this time, Macfan4life!:xoxo:
Yet another, very bad decision and lost opportunity for them to have created great music together for their careers and for their fans! Just saying!:shrug:
The line that gets me every time is the "Such words to her over the phone, just how many people are there with you now."
It sort of implies that maybe he called her afterwards to chew her out with all her partying. But this is what happens when worlds collide. Stevie created her own fantasy world where people flocked to her and her ways. No one ever told her no or criticized her. She visited someone and was no longer in that fantasy world. She was a fish out of water.
I give Stevie props for being so honest with the song. Many would want to forget about such an experience. It always said that it was during a Mac tour that this aborted recording session happened. But its speculated this was during the Wild Heart tour? She was high every day and every night during that time period. I always hated Prince for his arrogance. She said that was the last time she spoke to Prince was when she walked out during the Purple Rain premiere.
Villavic
02-22-2024, 08:30 AM
She said that was the last time she spoke to Prince was when she walked out during the Purple Rain premiere.
I guess all contradictory stories Stevie has told, fit perfect for a Twilight Zone episode screenplay. In the Timespace CD book she wrote:
By the way, Prince did come into the studio the night I called him and told him about the song, and he played incredible synthesizer on it... and then he just walked out if my life, and I didn't see him for a long time.
:shrug:
Macfan4life
02-22-2024, 10:49 AM
I guess all contradictory stories Stevie has told, fit perfect for a Twilight Zone episode screenplay. In the Timespace CD book she wrote:
By the way, Prince did come into the studio the night I called him and told him about the song, and he played incredible synthesizer on it... and then he just walked out if my life, and I didn't see him for a long time.
:shrug:
Sort of fits. She definitely saw him about a year after that at the Purple Rain premiere. I am curious when the failed recording session took place. Its always reported it was during a Mac tour. Both the Mac and Prince were on tour in 1982. I know Stevie met Prince during the Texas Mirage shows because they were touring in the same state at the same time. I think I read here once that it was actually on the Wild Heart tour that she visited his house. Thousand Days was a RAL demo so it had to be pre 1984.
UnwindedDreams
02-22-2024, 12:43 PM
Stevie’s next show is New Orleans. Does anyone think she’ll sing anything special that night?: “I want to get a room in New Orleans”, “Moonlight”, “Ghosts Are Gone”, “Show Them The Way”?
DashingDan
02-22-2024, 01:59 PM
"This song is dedicated to all the beautiful wrought iron gates that I drove past on the way to the venue, it's called 'Gate and Garden.'"
Stevie’s next show is New Orleans. Does anyone think she’ll sing anything special that night?: “I want to get a room in New Orleans”, “Moonlight”, “Ghosts Are Gone”, “Show Them The Way”?
Villavic
02-22-2024, 02:10 PM
Yes, I read she will sing It Never Rains in Southern California.
BigAl84
02-22-2024, 03:31 PM
Hoping for a Stevie Nicks setlist change up: wish in one hand and crap in the other.
soul_drifter333
02-22-2024, 04:58 PM
Since she still struggles to remember the lyrics to songs she has sung hundreds of times (even with a teleprompter) every setlist seems new and special to her. :lol:
Stevie’s next show is New Orleans. Does anyone think she’ll sing anything special that night?: “I want to get a room in New Orleans”, “Moonlight”, “Ghosts Are Gone”, “Show Them The Way”?
UnwindedDreams
02-22-2024, 07:10 PM
Yes, I read she will sing It Never Rains in Southern California.
I think there are horrific weather events in California going on this week.
Perhaps Rock And Roll, Face The Promise, and You Wreck Me will return to her setlist.
David
02-23-2024, 01:28 PM
I think there are horrific weather events in California going on this week.
Perhaps Rock And Roll, Face The Promise, and You Wreck Me will return to her setlist.
Or “Twisted” — we had a couple of EF-1 tornadoes during the storms.
UnwindedDreams
02-23-2024, 01:33 PM
Or “Twisted” — we had a couple of EF-1 tornadoes during the storms.
She played that song live in 96 and 98. She re-recorded it in 2014 but never played it on stage since 98- 25 years ago!!!!
She doesn’t have the confidence in her solo catalogue so she fills her set with Mac songs, covers, and solo tunes that have been played live for years and tells us fans that she hasn’t played “this next song” in a decade or a few LOL
sleepless child
02-23-2024, 02:51 PM
Regarding Prince, I'm pretty sure I read that he came to on of her Bella Donna shows in LA. I think the one that was recorded for HBO
bombaysaffires
02-29-2024, 01:40 AM
Prince on Stand Back was known in 1983. She was asked on MTV by Mark why he was not given credit. Supposedly he requested not to be credited but accepted 50% of the royalties. That's a typical douche Prince move. Don't give me credit but pay me.
During that Storytellers segment she says that Prince came in, did his little keyboard part and then walked out of her life. She was invited to the Purple Rain premiere but left in the middle and ran to the bathroom. Prince confronted her about it which means it upset him.
Its clear that Prince wanted nothing to do with her. When she met him in the 80s she was a major drug addict. Prince was not into that stuff (then). I am speculating that is why she went to the bathroom during Purple Rain. Didn't Stevie say he brought her cough medicine in bed once and made a comment like she did not want to get addicted to another substance. That's pretty blunt.
This is what she said about Prince in 1998. They had a non-relationship:
In 1998, Stevie revealed that the song was about her relationship with Prince. “‘Thousand Days’ was written about my non-relationship with Prince,” Nicks said, who had earlier composed “Stand Back” with him — although she notes he’s never called her back “to set up his payment on 50%” of the latter. “Days” recounts an abortive, all-night ’80s recording session with him at his Minneapolis home during a Fleetwood Mac tour, climaxing with Nicks “smoking my pot — he didn’t agree with my lifestyle — and going to sleep on Prince’s floor in his kitchen. I like him, but we were just so different there was no possible meeting ground.” (Modern Records, 1998)
Can you imagine her passed out on Prince's kitchen floor. In her song she say he dragged her up the stairs.
OMG she coulnn't walk :lol:
yep this is the s story I always heard and remembered about her relationship with Prince. I always wondered if his song 17 Days was about the same thing....
Stevie couldn't walk a LOT during this time.... there are so many pics of her out at some event or other and there's always two people, one on either side of her... her singers, or a manager, a few with Waddy and his wife on either side of her.... this was the era Paul Fishkin talked about in her BTM.. "near-overdoses on the road" "we had to scrap her off the floor" etc .....
bombaysaffires
02-29-2024, 01:44 AM
Sort of fits. She definitely saw him about a year after that at the Purple Rain premiere. I am curious when the failed recording session took place. Its always reported it was during a Mac tour. Both the Mac and Prince were on tour in 1982. I know Stevie met Prince during the Texas Mirage shows because they were touring in the same state at the same time. I think I read here once that it was actually on the Wild Heart tour that she visited his house. Thousand Days was a RAL demo so it had to be pre 1984.
Her timelines are always twisted to fit her narrative.
I recall her telling a reporter about doing Planets of the Universe with John Shanks. She said something to the effect that she contacted him and he worked on it and it was done in a "matter of days". Thing was, Shanks was there with her and he was like "Wellllllll.....not really a few days" and said like weeks/maybe even a few months. But she likes to have these dramatic, romanticize narratives......... so yeah, I don't trust her timelines on a lot
UnwindedDreams
02-29-2024, 02:45 AM
How surprising! Stevie performed “New Orleans” at her show tonight in New Orleans, Louisiana. Yet she refuses to touch the 24 Karat Gold Songs From The Vault album with a ten foot pole.
She also performed the Stevie Nicks hits “Free Fallin” “For What It’s Worth” “Fall From Grace” and an abbreviated “Soldier’s Angel”.
One day she’ll sing Show Them The Way…maybe in 2025.
UnwindedDreams
03-01-2024, 01:30 PM
This sorta review from the Times-Picayune of the other night's concert in New Orleans is fair. It praises her but also gives an honest take of the concert as a whole.
https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/music/stevie-nicks-defied-tpassing-of-ime-at-new-orleans-concert/article_cbd45524-d787-11ee-96bb-27c43ffaaee9.html
HomerMcvie
03-01-2024, 03:03 PM
Chatty Stevie Nicks...:lol::lol::lol:
UnwindedDreams
03-01-2024, 03:22 PM
Chatty Stevie Nicks...:lol::lol::lol:
IIRC the writer said the talking before each song did not help the momentum of the concert. She talks A LOT but she doesn't introduce the band and the people adding vocal effects and elongating her notes like the last note of Fall From Grace.
Noit sure if anyone knows here, but she doesn't wear boots any more.
HomerMcvie
03-01-2024, 03:32 PM
IIRC the writer said the talking before each song did not help the momentum of the concert. She talks A LOT but she doesn't introduce the band and the people adding vocal effects and elongating her notes like the last note of Fall From Grace.
Noit sure if anyone knows here, but she doesn't wear boots any more.
The poor old dear's arches have fallen(from grace).
Villavic
03-01-2024, 03:32 PM
A set that spanned two hours and 15 minutes managed only 18 songs. Nicks prefaced most with a story as long as the song itself. That verbosity didn’t allow momentum to build across multiple songs strung together.
That was the same I felt when I saw Cher in Vegas 2010. But in that case she spent lot of time dissapearing to change costumes between songs (while they showed photos and clips). And she repeated that a lot during the show. Actually her live songs were no more than 60% of the show time.
Now that I read this, yes she can be so annoying and smug that she likes to spend time telling her stories, but it can also be a way to rest her voice and not strain it so much for 2 hours straight. Obviously, when she speaks, she continues to make an effort, but not as much as singing.
Anyway is disappointing that one pays to see something that they do not fulfill (in my case Cher, I've never gone to a SN concert).
soul_drifter333
03-01-2024, 03:55 PM
Oh dear, who is she going to have fired now for criticizing her long speeches? :D
A set that spanned two hours and 15 minutes managed only 18 songs. Nicks prefaced most with a story as long as the song itself. That verbosity didn’t allow momentum to build across multiple songs strung together.
That was the same I felt when I saw Cher in Vegas 2010. But in that case she spent lot of time dissapearing to change costumes between songs (while they showed photos and clips). And she repeated that a lot during the show. Actually her live songs were no more than 60% of the show time.
Now that I read this, yes she can be so annoying and smug that she likes to spend time telling her stories, but it can also be a way to rest her voice and not strain it so much for 2 hours straight. Obviously, when she speaks, she continues to make an effort, but not as much as singing.
Anyway is disappointing that one pays to see something that they do not fulfill (in my case Cher, I've never gone to a SN concert).
WatchChain
03-02-2024, 11:26 PM
For her February 28th show in New Orleans, Stevie once again added the song "New Orleans" to her set list.
Has anyone attended the last few Stevie Nicks shows? After the last song "Landslide", does Christine McVie's "Got A Hold on Me" play over the soundboard as the lights come up?
Hawkeye
03-03-2024, 01:04 AM
For her February 28th show in New Orleans, Stevie once again added the song "New Orleans" to her set list.
Has anyone attended the last few Stevie Nicks shows? After the last song "Landslide", does Christine McVie's "Got A Hold on Me" play over the soundboard as the lights come up?
Crazy, she bookends her show by 2 songs by the only 2 celebrities I’ve ever truly been deeply emotionally effected by their death, not “quite” to the level of someone else’s knew personally but very very close.
Literally any other of the 50-100 celebrities (some have rip threads here in chit chat) are obviously sad as is all human death. But unless I know them the news of death doesnÂ’t have that rotting gut feeling of hearing someone died (I hope IÂ’m describing that right and thatÂ’s a universal feeling and I donÂ’t sound like a crazy person)
But the news of Tom Petty and Christine made me feel dizzy with grief. Those 2 songs on each side of her set is the best “set list” choice she’s made in years.
I kind of like how long the TP tribute has dragged out. And honestly I hate that she keeps doing these big stadium/festival type shows, but If sheÂ’s doing them, free falling is great for these shows. I think 7 years is the cut off tho. The song and the montage must go in the very near future!
Straightback
03-03-2024, 01:05 AM
Noit sure if anyone knows here, but she doesn't wear boots any more.
Not even all summer long?:)
HomerMcvie
03-03-2024, 01:50 AM
I kind of like how long the TP tribute has dragged out. And honestly I hate that she keeps doing these big stadium/festival type shows, but If sheÂ’s doing them, free falling is great for these shows. I think 7 years is the cut off tho. The song and the montage must go in the very near future!
Is this your first day here? Mama be milking til she drop like a fly.
UnwindedDreams
03-03-2024, 06:34 AM
Not even all summer long?:)
There is no reason for that song NOT to be in the setlist! It could be that the chorus is too high for her to handle.
But now she wears leg warmers over sneakers.
UnwindedDreams
03-03-2024, 06:36 AM
For her February 28th show in New Orleans, Stevie once again added the song "New Orleans" to her set list.
Has anyone attended the last few Stevie Nicks shows? After the last song "Landslide", does Christine McVie's "Got A Hold on Me" play over the soundboard as the lights come up?
Yes, Got A Hold On Me does play after the band leaves the stage. It's not Learning To Fly anymore.
Stevie said she might keep New Orleans in her setlist now.
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