CHRISTINE MCVIE Legacy Celebrated ... FLEETWOOD MAC PAYS TRIBUTE

[bwboy]

Mad is when you only have a few more slurps left of your Dairy Queen blizzard.

They sold out their souls for money not to mention unlike other decisions to tour, this was planned, contract signed to include Lindsey. One member should not have that power of extortion over a band and recreate that band to their liking.

See, I just can’t say that firing someone is comparable to “selling their souls.” And one member only had the power because three other people totally backed her up, so there’s that.

But your point about the Dairy Queen Blizzard is noted :nod:

[bwboy]

FM actually performed DDIO, IGY, and FF towards the end of the tour as well when the setlist was 20 songs.

Blue Letter was first released by Fleetwood Mac. It's like Talk To Me - that's a Stevie song. Blue Letter is a FM song. Farmer's Daughter is not an FM song.

I think those three covers should've been rare Stevie songs or even Billy or Rick songs.

Bottom line, there should have been at least one newly recorded song in the 2018 setlist. They were able to do it in 2013. No reason why they couldn't in 2018.

Are you sure about I Got You? I know that was played in the early shows, but by the time I saw them in early November, that song, Hypnotized, and Storms had been dropped, all to my dismay.

I wish before the tour they had released an album with newly recorded versions of I Got You, Don’t Dream It’s Over, Hypnotized, Storms, Black Magic Woman, Isn’t It Midnight, Oh Well, All Over Again, Tell Me All the Things You So, Man of the World, Sentimental Lady, and a new song or two, but it didn’t happen. Maybe that would have helped keep the audience be more accepting of the songs they dropped early on, who knows?

I totally agree with you that it would have been awesome if they had performed some songs from Rick and Billy’s time with the band. I would have passed out right there on the floor. How I wish they had consulted me about their setlist beforehand LOL!

[SteveMacD]

We definitely disagree on that one. IMHO Mick could barely say that with a straight face. He was saying that trying to prop up the big lie. He was trying to give credibility for his actions. DID NOT BELIEVE A WORD OF IT

I would have bet my life in 2018 there would never be a studio recording or another tour with these "new" members. You are smarter than that Steve to really believe such crap.

Your bitterness has trumped your objectivity. You don’t add people with their backgrounds if recording wasn’t on the table. Mike is Stevie’s primary collaborator, Mick had just recorded an album with Neil, and Christine and Neil collaborated on new material on the road.

[SteveMacD]

Are you sure about I Got You? I know that was played in the early shows
They brought it back for the Oceana leg.

[SteveMacD]

Blue Letter was first released by Fleetwood Mac. It's like Talk To Me - that's a Stevie song.

“Talk To Me” was written by Chas Sandford who’s a professional songwriter and publisher. He specifically writes songs for others to sing. He also wrote John Waite's "Missing You.”

“Blue Letter” was another band’s song.

[UnwindedDreams]

“Blue Letter” was another band’s song.
What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

[WalkAThinLine.]

What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

It was written by Richard and Michael Curtis, who happened to be recording in the same studio as Fleetwood Mac. The band heard the song and decided to include on the White Album.

[UnwindedDreams]

The same reason they played “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and (briefly) “Frozen Love.”

Also, “Tear It Up,” “The Bigger the Love,” “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” “Feelin’ Alright,” and “Dear Mr. Fantasy.”

ETA: And “Stand Back,” “Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You,” “Go Insane” (OOTC tour acoustic version), and “Go Insane” (full band version).

Not to mention they rerecorded a Buckingham Nicks song on a studio album.
One difference is that the previous lineups that played solo or other band songs in a FM set before 2018 had actually made music with Fleetwood Mac.

I wouldn't have wanted to hear these songs but those three covers could've been Lay It All Down, The Green Manalishi, and Jewel-Eyed Judy. I would've wanted Crystal, Angel (Stevie), and Straight Back, but that wouldn't have been fair.

[UnwindedDreams]

It was written by Richard and Michael Curtis, who happened to be recording in the same studio as Fleetwood Mac. The band heard the song and decided to include on the White Album.
When did Curtis release its recording?

[WalkAThinLine.]

When did Curtis release its recording?

They apparently released it in 1976. Here's a link to the audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVI4ReZMIeo

[SteveMacD]

One difference is that the previous lineups that played solo or other band songs in a FM set before 2018 had actually made music with Fleetwood Mac.

That’s pretzel logic spin. Those songs were from works that were initially recorded external from Fleetwood Mac. There is no differentiation.

[UnwindedDreams]

They apparently released it in 1976. Here's a link to the audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVI4ReZMIeo
Thank you. Fleetwood Mac released it in 1975.

[SteveMacD]

What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

Doesn’t matter. They were recording their album at Sound City. Lindsey and Stevie heard it and Lindsey reworked it for Buckingham Nicks/Fleetwood Mac. It wasn’t being shopped around.

[UnwindedDreams]

That’s pretzel logic spin. Those songs were from works that were initially recorded external from Fleetwood Mac. There is no differentiation.
It's not spin. It's an opinion. Please be respectful and not combative.

Also, as you've said, the 2018 Tour was a 50th Anniversary Tour. Crowded House, Split Enz, and Tom Petty songs had no relevance in a setlist presenting the 50 Years of Fleetwood Mac's recordings.

[UnwindedDreams]

Doesn’t matter. They were recording their album at Sound City. Lindsey and Stevie heard it and Lindsey reworked it for Buckingham Nicks/Fleetwood Mac. It wasn’t being shopped around.
Blue Letter is not a Fleetwood Mac song?

[SteveMacD]

It's not spin. It's an opinion. Please be respectful and not combative.

Also, as you've said, the 2018 Tour was a 50th Anniversary Tour. Crowded House, Split Enz, and Tom Petty songs had no relevance in a setlist presenting the 50 Years of Fleetwood Mac's recordings.

It’s absolutely spin. You’re trying to differentiate Fleetwood Mac playing works that a member recorded outside of Fleetwood Mac when it’s the exact same thing.

Fleetwood Mac has been doing that since Christine joined the band.

When Mick did that interview in 2017, he said he’s always felt Lindsey and Stevie should be doing a Buckingham Nicks som and Christine a blues song, so even with it being Fleetwood Mac’s 50th Anniversary, it was never etched in stone that that’s all they were going to be playing. Fleetwood Mac has never been that rigid.

[SteveMacD]

Blue Letter is not a Fleetwood Mac song?

It’s a song in their body of work, but it’s a Curtis Bros. song.

[UnwindedDreams]

It’s a song in their body of work, but it’s a Curtis Bros. song.
Is Stop Draggin' My Heart Around a song in Stevie's body of work, but it's a Tom Petty song?

[jbrownsjr]

Anything that would’ve given us another album of Mick, John, and Christine together would’ve been fine with me.

It’s just humorous to me that fans of the TENTH incarnation of Fleetwood Mac are calling the 18-19 band Fakewood Mac. At least the Peter Green fans had a credible reason for saying that anything that came after Peter quit wasn’t really Fleetwood Mac.

They were pissed when Albatross charted!

[jmn3]

The same reason they played “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and (briefly) “Frozen Love.”

Also, “Tear It Up,” “The Bigger the Love,” “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” “Feelin’ Alright,” and “Dear Mr. Fantasy.”

ETA: And “Stand Back,” “Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You,” “Go Insane” (OOTC tour acoustic version), and “Go Insane” (full band version).

Not to mention they rerecorded a Buckingham Nicks song on a studio album.

The idea that you keep doing this, comparing crap from 1970, 1975, or 1990 to anything in 2018 is ridiculous. It was completely different. These were active bands! This wasn’t a new band. This band did nothing but play live shows. Nobody will ever remember the 2018-19 iteration of this band as nothing but a complete footnote on the Fleetwood Mac story. There was no reason for this abrupt change other than placating ONE PERSON and their ego.

And at the end of the day, Christine is friggin dead and the band is done! That is how it ended. With a cobbled together set of players who have no connection to the band’s DNA doing covers of a guy who was in the band EARLIER THAT YEAR and bringing in their own songs to fill out a set. And for many, me included, this is why I hated this from day 1. I had a bad feeling, at their ages, that something would happen that would ever prevent that true final reconvening. Admittedly my money was on the other McVie initially. And then Lindsey. I didn’t think it would be Chris but here we are.

So I’m glad people enjoyed hearing Stevie sing BMW, I Got You, Neil Finn singing GYOW, and of course, the two poignant moments of the show - Don’t Dream It’s Over and Free Fallin’. For me, it forever tarnished the band and their legacy and prevented any sort of proper ending. This band and the music is the soundtrack to so many of our lives. This isn’t about Lindsey either - I’m a FM fan first and foremost and long have said that the five of them needed each other and have always been 10x better together than their best solo work.

[UnwindedDreams]

It’s absolutely spin. You’re trying to differentiate Fleetwood Mac playing works that a member recorded outside of Fleetwood Mac when it’s the exact same thing.

Fleetwood Mac has been doing that since Christine joined the band.

How is it spin when it is true that when members of FM performed external works in an FM setlist, those members had performed or made new music with Fleetwood Mac?

You're denying a fact.

[UnwindedDreams]

When Mick did that interview in 2017, he said he’s always felt Lindsey and Stevie should be doing a Buckingham Nicks som and Christine a blues song, so even with it being Fleetwood Mac’s 50th Anniversary, it was never etched in stone that that’s all they were going to be playing. Fleetwood Mac has never been that rigid.
Was it planned as a 50 Year Anniversary Tour when Lindsey was still attached to the tour?

But the difference with Mick wanting a BN song and Christine doing one of her recordings is that Chris, Stevie, and Lindsey made albums in FM. So it's part of the story of the band. Mike and Neil joined a band with no new music to play. It's not Mike and Neil's fault.

[SteveMacD]

The idea that you keep doing this, comparing crap from 1970, 1975, or 1990 to anything in 2018 is ridiculous. It was completely different.
Sorry, but “Crazy ‘Bout You Baby,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Stand Back,” “Go Insane,” and “Don’t Let Me Down Again” are as much Fleetwood Mac songs as “Don’t Dream It’s Over” or “Free Falling.”

Hypothetically, if the band had brought back Dave Mason and played “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” and “Feelin’ Alright,” would that been okay? He was a member of Fleetwood Mac and released an album with them.

What if they brought Billy back, but he only did “Don’t Say No,” “Tangled Up In Texas,” and “Ain’t Got The Heart” in addition to the Lindsey songs, would people have been okay?

See, this is why I call BS. Fleetwood Mac did what it always did whenever they brought in someone new. The problem wasn’t the songs, the problem was the situation and the reaction would have been the same regardless.

[UnwindedDreams]

Hypothetically, if the band had brought back Dave Mason and played “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” and “Feelin’ Alright,” would that been okay? He was a member of Fleetwood Mac and released an album with them.

What if they brought Billy back, but he only did “Don’t Say No,” “Tangled Up In Texas,” and “Ain’t Got The Heart” in addition to the Lindsey songs, would people have been okay.Yes!:blob2::blob1: Just no to the Lindsey songs.

And Dave did those songs, maybe not all when they did Time songs in concert.

Billy did Tear It Up when they were performing Tango songs.

[BigAl84]

Your bitterness has trumped your objectivity. You don’t add people with their backgrounds if recording wasn’t on the table. Mike is Stevie’s primary collaborator, Mick had just recorded an album with Neil, and Christine and Neil collaborated on new material on the road.

LOL are you on the same planet!? Are we talking about the same band!? They added them to make a big touring payday happen. Recording anything was nothing but a “bonus” if they could get Stevie involved.

One minute you’re claiming poor Mick had to scramble to get Mike and Neil and now you’re claiming they were hired because they wanted to record?

Mike Campbell has already stated that he “assumed” there was an inclination to record new music because that’s how the Heartbreakers operated, but quickly found out that the tour was their only priority.

[BigAl84]

Eh, I’m not sure Mick wasn’t being serious about it being a “new band” (new chapter would have been more appropriate, but I’m not nitpicking something a 70-something says). I legitimately think he thought adding Mike and Neil would lead to a new album and maybe another run of live shows beyond the 18-19 tour. I mean, if I was trying to lure Stevie into the studio, I’d start with Mike Campbell, too. And Neil seems like he’d be easygoing enough to make it an enjoyable process.

LOL….that’s a rookie miscalculation. On Mick’s part and yours.

[UnwindedDreams]

Fleetwood Mac did what it always did whenever they brought in someone new. It's true, but actually whenever they brought in someone new, the band was performing new music in their setlist. With Mike and Neil, they weren't.

[SteveMacD]

Was it planned as a 50 Year Anniversary Tour when Lindsey was still attached to the tour?
Yes. They had the comp coming out.

But the difference with Mick wanting a BN song and Christine doing one of her recordings is that Chris, Stevie, and Lindsey made albums in FM.
What about when Dave Mason was in the band? Time was released after they’d completed their tour dates?

[SteveMacD]

It's true, but actually whenever they brought in someone new, the band was performing new music in their setlist. With Mike and Neil, they weren't.

But that has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac playing non-Fleetwood Mac songs. That’s a different discussion.

[UnwindedDreams]

What about when Dave Mason was in the band? Time was released after they’d completed their tour dates? It was released after the tour but they played Time songs in the setlist with Dave.

Extended Play wasn't released until 2 weeks plus after the first 2013 show, but FM did the new songs Sad Angel and Without You before the release any way.

[SteveMacD]

Yes!:blob2::blob1: Just no to the Lindsey songs.
What about “Blue Letter?”

Billy did Tear It Up when they were performing Tango songs.
Well, he recorded a version with The Zoo that had Christine on keyboards, so it had a connection to Fleetwood Mac.

[UnwindedDreams]

But that has nothing to do with Fleetwood Mac playing non-Fleetwood Mac songs. That’s a different discussion.
But it's a fact that Mike and Neil were the first newcomers to Fleetwood Mac to not play new music in the setlist. And actually, was Tear It Up played on the Tango Tour? Or was it only The BTM Tour?

If it was only the BTM Tour, then it's not true that newcomers always played their external music on every tour.

[BigAl84]

I don’t know about ya’ll, but for the past fifteen years every Fleetwood Mac show I’ve attended, I was really expecting them to play “Power of Love” by Huey Lewis and the news. I was shocked that it didn’t happen. What gives, if they do Stand Back they should be doing Huey Lewis too. Right!?

[SteveMacD]

I don’t know about ya’ll, but for the past fifteen years every Fleetwood Mac show I’ve attended, I was really expecting them to play “Power of Love” by Huey Lewis and the news. I was shocked that it didn’t happen. What gives, if they do Stand Back they should be doing Huey Lewis too. Right!?

They would have played it if he was in the band.

[UnwindedDreams]

What about “Blue Letter?” Since Lindsey, Stevie, or Christine didn't write it, I'll say fine. But I think Rick or Billy songs should've been performed instead of Lindsey's.


Well, he recorded a version with The Zoo that had Christine on keyboards, so it had a connection to Fleetwood Mac. I support Billy doing Tear It Up because new music was being performed in the same setlist.

[BigAl84]

They would have played it if he was in the band.

let’s take a minute to think about that train wreck….LOL

[SteveMacD]

But it's a fact that Mike and Neil were the first newcomers to Fleetwood Mac to not play new music in the setlist. And actually, was Tear It Up played on the Tango Tour? Or was it only The BTM Tour?

If it was only the BTM Tour, then it's not true that newcomers always played their external music on every tour.

BTM tour.

I’m still upset that they didn’t do “It Ain’t Over” on the TITN tour. Mick and Christine played on it and it would have been a great message for that tour. Billy singing a Buckingham Nicks song was weird, although it fit his style perfectly.

[UnwindedDreams]

I don’t know about ya’ll, but for the past fifteen years every Fleetwood Mac show I’ve attended, I was really expecting them to play “Power of Love” by Huey Lewis and the news. I was shocked that it didn’t happen. What gives, if they do Stand Back they should be doing Huey Lewis too. Right!?
I was upset they didn't play Shaggy's "It Wasn't Me" at The Garden in 2019!

[SteveMacD]

let’s take a minute to think about that train wreck….LOL

Let’s not and say we did.

[BigAl84]

Let’s not and say we did.

Oh c’mon they’re a new band, it’s going to be great! Father Mick said so!

[BigAl84]

Picture it…Fleetwood Mac 2024…the band plays the opening bars of “What’s love got to do with it” as Stevie makes her grand entrance in her signature Reebok platforms and a pencil skirt.

[SteveMacD]

Oh c’mon they’re a new band, it’s going to be great! Father Mick said so!

You obviously weren’t around for the ‘94-‘95 tours.

[BigAl84]

You obviously weren’t around for the ‘94-‘95 tours.

There’s more than enough on youtube.

[BigAl84]

You obviously weren’t around for the ‘94-‘95 tours.

I did witness the “we still have a sliver of dignity” tour in ‘97.

[UnwindedDreams]

I’m still upset that they didn’t do “It Ain’t Over” on the TITN tour. Mick and Christine played on it and it would have been a great message for that tour. Billy singing a Buckingham Nicks song was weird, although it fit his style perfectly.
Do you think Behind The Mask songs weren't played in 2018 because people just would not have known them?

All Over Again was played because Stevie heard it on The Sirius Fleetwood Mac Channel. I gather she liked it because she had no regret about firing Lindsey and that she would do it over again.

[SteveMacD]

Do you think Behind The Mask songs weren't played in 2018 because people just would not have known them?

I think that’s a time in Stevie’s life she’d rather not revisit. As you know, I thought “Freedom” should have been played. Mike co-wrote it and it’s subject matter was relevant.

[BigAl84]

Do you think Behind The Mask songs weren't played in 2018 because people just would not have known them?

All Over Again was played because Stevie heard it on The Sirius Fleetwood Mac Channel. I gather she liked it because she had no regret about firing Lindsey and that she would do it over again.

BTM and Time are completely irrelevant to the masses and younger folks who were buying tickets between 2003-2018. Probably farther off the radar than the pre ‘75 catalog which already had a strong following amongst music fans and guitar players.

I’d challenge anyone to walk up to anyone under 45 at a show and ask them about Time or BTM without getting a blank stare.

[SteveMacD]

I did witness the “we still have a sliver of dignity” tour in ‘97.

You mean the “our careers are in the crapper so we’re pretending to like each other” tour.

[BigAl84]

You mean the “our careers are in the crapper so we’re pretending to like each other” tour.

Yeah that would be the one. It was still better than Mick’s All Star Band!

[bwboy]

This band and the music is the soundtrack to so many of our lives. This isn’t about Lindsey either - I’m a FM fan first and foremost and long have said that the five of them needed each other and have always been 10x better together than their best solo work.

Definitely.

[UnwindedDreams]

I think that’s a time in Stevie’s life she’d rather not revisit. As you know, I thought “Freedom” should have been played. Mike co-wrote it and it’s subject matter was relevant. Yes to Freedom.
The fact that Stevie only did one of her songs from the album for only a handful of BTM Tour shows tells me she wasn't happy with her work.

[SteveMacD]

Yes to Freedom.
The fact that Stevie only did one of her songs from the album for only a handful of BTM Tour shows tells me she wasn't happy with her work.

Or that it wasn’t connecting with audiences, which might be her aversion to recording new music.

[UnwindedDreams]

Or that it wasn’t connecting with audiences, which might be her aversion to recording new music.
If the audiences aren't cheering, then the album probably didn't make money.

Credit to her for always doing at least two songs on the Say You Will Tour, even though that album didn't sell.

[SteveMacD]

If the audiences aren't cheering, then the album probably didn't make money.

Credit to her for always doing at least two songs on the Say You Will Tour, even though that album didn't sell.

Well, she’s even said that was Lindsey’s tour.

[UnwindedDreams]

Well, she’s even said that was Lindsey’s tour.
Lindsey made her sing the songs in the setlist, including Beautiful Child?

[SteveMacD]

Lindsey made her sing the songs in the setlist, including Beautiful Child?

You were talking about songs from the new album.

[HomerMcvie]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I’m going to print this and frame it and hang it on my wall, right next to the chiffon shawl and tambourine! Finally!!

Girl, don't forget your fake hair extensions. And gloves to cover your wrinkly hands.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes to Freedom.
The fact that Stevie only did one of her songs from the album for only a handful of BTM Tour shows tells me she wasn't happy with her work.

Look at me with daggers
It won't do you any good
All the looks that you've used on me
Don't work now that you've fallen, fallen, fallen

[bwboy]

Girl, don't forget your fake hair extensions. And gloves to cover your wrinkly hands.

Wait- Stevie has hair extensions!?! :shocked:

[UnwindedDreams]

You were talking about songs from the new album.
I don't think Lindsey forced Stevie to sing her SYW songs

I guess it was Mirage when Stevie started only singing one new song on an album's tour. 7W on Tango. Love Is Dangerous for a few shows on BTM. Sweet Girl was her only new song in 97.
That changed with the SYW Tour. She did Destiny Rules, Say You Will, and Goodbye Baby at one of my shows.

[bwboy]

I don't think Lindsey forced Stevie to sing her SYW songs

I guess it was Mirage when Stevie started only singing one new song on an album's tour. 7W on Tango. Love Is Dangerous for a few shows on BTM. Sweet Girl was her only new song in 97.
That changed with the SYW Tour. She did Destiny Rules, Say You Will, and Goodbye Baby at one of my shows.

When I saw Fakewood Mac on opening night for that tour, I’m certain she also sang Running Through the Garden.

[jbrownsjr]

When I saw Fakewood Mac on opening night for that tour, I’m certain she also sang Running Through the Garden.

Did she run with her hi heeeeeeled Rebocks!

[UnwindedDreams]

When I saw Fakewood Mac on opening night for that tour, I’m certain she also sang Running Through the Garden.
I think it was hard for Stevie to sing it on tour. There are a lot of high notes in that song.

I'm glad Fakewood Mac had new music to play on that tour. I'm not a deep cuts gal.

[SteveMacD]

When I saw Fakewood Mac on opening night for that tour, I’m certain she also sang Running Through the Garden.

They did and it didn’t translate all that well live, IMO.

[jbrownsjr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRC_ajBfqK8

[UnwindedDreams]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRC_ajBfqK8
Stevie's voice is so powerful in this video! I think this performance rocks.

[jmn3]

Stevie's voice is so powerful in this video! I think this performance rocks.

Yep, I’ve long lamented that they did this one time and then dropped it forever. I think it had a lot of potential and was a good uptempo number in the set.

[UnwindedDreams]

Yep, I’ve long lamented that they did this one time and then dropped it forever. I think it had a lot of potential and was a good uptempo number in the set.
Stevie looked happy singing it doing her happy dance in place and swinging her ribbons.

[sleepless child]

I really liked Running through the Garden and Destiny Rules live. I hated that they dropped them so soon into the tour.

She did Destiny Rules again for the 2004 tour, but I can't remember if she dropped that one again or not.

[aleuzzi]

Stevie's voice is so powerful in this video! I think this performance rocks.

I’d agree. The whole band does a great job.

[jbrownsjr]

I’d agree. The whole band does a great job.

Love the guitar solo.

[SteveMacD]

Picture it…Fleetwood Mac 2024…the band plays the opening bars of “What’s love got to do with it” as Stevie makes her grand entrance in her signature Reebok platforms and a pencil skirt.

Followed by Lindsey strumming “Love Minus Zero/No Limit”

Oh, wait…

[jbrownsjr]

Followed by Lindsey strumming “Love Minus Zero/No Limit”

Oh, wait…

With Bob Dylan on the screen.

[SteveMacD]

With Bob Dylan on the screen.

And bands who had big hits with Bob Dylan songs.

[elle]

Followed by Lindsey strumming “Love Minus Zero/No Limit”

adore Lindsey's version. those guitar parts are fantastic, very different than Clapton's.

did not like his live versions (was it at AHI?) of it though, he seem to have been just shouting the words. the album version is just perfect.

[jbrownsjr]

adore Lindsey's version. those guitar parts are fantastic, very different than Clapton's.

did not like his live versions (was it at AHI?) of it though, he seem to have been just shouting the words. the album version is just perfect.

I'll have to go back and listen to the album version. Find the live version you speak of so I can listen.

[David]

I really liked Running through the Garden and Destiny Rules live. I hated that they dropped them so soon into the tour.

She did Destiny Rules again for the 2004 tour, but I can't remember if she dropped that one again or not. Why did Los Angeles not get to see these good ones? That’s not how we do it in LA.

[jbrownsjr]

Why did Los Angeles not get to see these good ones? That’s not how we do it in LA.

They used to take bold risks! That's certainly not how we do it in LA.