Brett Tuggle Dishes the details to Rolling Stone

[UnwindedDreams]

Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet Why aren't Culture Club and Cyndi Lauper in?

I think it was right for Madonna to be inducted in her first year of eligibility.

[jbrownsjr]

Lindsey brought Christine back to us. Not Stevie. And yet, who bragged about bringing Christine back with a spirit catcher, told her to get in shape, and then lectured her how hard it was to be on tour?

[David]

I want to see him play MSG.Bah, you. The incommensurate spectacle of a One Man Show performance in a sports arena is like something out of a Christopher Guest movie. Imagine the noise of a mob of fifteen-thousand, the stench of beer on the plastic retractable seats, the foul obnoxiousness, and the dirt while Lindsey performs “She Smiled Sweetly” on solo guitar.

Furthermore, as mortified as I was when he opened for Tina Turner, I think I'd have to kill myself if he opened for Rod Stewart.I only saw that on YouTube. Ghastly. It should have sparked a second- or third-wave punk revolution against dinosaur rock and corporatism.

I don't spend a lot of time wishing he had Stevie's record or ticket sales. Well, my point. Actually, my point is that Lindsey’s particular gifts as an artist — like those of some his heroes, from Laurie Anderson to Brian Wilson — don’t fit right in the mob milieu of Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks. They aren’t seen or heard in their best light at Madison Square Garden. So who needs that kind of head count? It would mute his brilliance.

I do wish he had the power, but not the immorality, to get Stevie fired, however. I envy her that.Fleetwood Mac was definitely better when the five of them could all yell and scream at each other without risking being fired.

[David]

Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing YetI didn’t even know that Randy Bachman was ever in the Guess Who. By the way, “These Eyes” famously features the Hohner Pianet N (Christine’s electric piano of choice in those years).

[jbrownsjr]

I didn’t even know that Randy Bachman was ever in the Guess Who. By the way, “These Eyes” famously features the Hohner Pianet N (Christine’s electric piano of choice in those years).

I recognize it in the beginning. I really love that sound.

[jbrownsjr]

Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet

Recently heard Roll On Down The Highway, wow I love that song. Great pick me up.

[elle]

That's not what I said. YES, they both sang together but it was on Rod's stage. When they did the interview breaking the news about the tour, they both said they would be singing on each other's stage (like Stevie did with Don). That NEVER happened. Rod never came out on Stevie's stage. She came out on his stage but that dwindled as the tour went on. Clearly Rod is a bigger egomaniac than Stevie. If it really was a shared tour as they stated in the beginning (no opening acts) then you dont introduce someone. Rod should have sang Stevie's Leather and Lace in Stevie's set. He could not even sing it without reading the lyrics from the monitor word by word. It was pathetic. Seriously. They practiced for months and the lyrics to Leather and Lace are not that tough. IMHO being that they isolated from performing together in the later dates says a lot. Stevie was probably tired of his B.S. She was tricked into becoming an opening act for his ego.

funny to read this. i remember their interview promoting the tour, and it was so obvious he's teasing her and trying to have fun talking about their younger years, and she just did not get it, would have none of it, and was dead serious espousing how great she was instead. no sense of humor. :nod:

there were also interviews how she was pi**ed at him because he was always winging it and wouldn't rehearse while she wanted them to rehearse those duets to death. :laugh: and how can you bang at him not knowing lyrics of someone else's song when that somone else doesn't know lyrics of her own songs and always has them on the prompter on stage. tbh, i actually loved their version of L&L - he sang it so gently, it just worked for me.

between the 2 of them i would never characterize Rod as the one with the overblown ego. :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

funny to read this. i remember their interview promoting the tour, and it was so obvious he's teasing her and trying to have fun talking about their younger years, and she just did not get it, would have none of it, and was dead serious espousing how great she was instead. no sense of humor. :nod:

there were also interviews how she was pi**ed at him because he was always winging it and wouldn't rehearse while she wanted them to rehearse those duets to death. :laugh: and how can you bang at him not knowing lyrics of someone else's song when that somone else doesn't know lyrics of her own songs and always has them on the prompter on stage. tbh, i actually loved their version of L&L - he sang it so gently, it just worked for me.

between the 2 of them i would never characterize Rod as the one with the overblown ego. :lol:

He's less nasal than her, too. :shocked:

[michelej1]

Fleetwood Mac was definitely better when the five of them could all yell and scream at each other without risking being fired.

Loss of leverage. Nothing hurts as much. I want the whip hand.

[jbrownsjr]

Loss of leverage. Nothing hurts as much. I want the whip hand.

It's so true. The best music came out when they were, as Christine said, "Tearing each other limb from limb."

[greendaze5]

funny to read this. i remember their interview promoting the tour, and it was so obvious he's teasing her and trying to have fun talking about their younger years, and she just did not get it, would have none of it, and was dead serious espousing how great she was instead. no sense of humor. :nod:

there were also interviews how she was pi**ed at him because he was always winging it and wouldn't rehearse while she wanted them to rehearse those duets to death. :laugh: and how can you bang at him not knowing lyrics of someone else's song when that somone else doesn't know lyrics of her own songs and always has them on the prompter on stage. tbh, i actually loved their version of L&L - he sang it so gently, it just worked for me.

between the 2 of them i would never characterize Rod as the one with the overblown ego. :lol:

I saw this tour on one of their Canadian stops.

Despite the 50/50 billing, it really was Stevie as a 'guest', if not an opening act.

I blame her and her management for not setting up a better deal for her to begin with. She had this dinky little stage set that was removed right afterwards for Rod's big and glitzy one. And she put herself in a deferential position, saying in the press, how grateful she was to Rod for giving her a platform to promote her upcoming album.

After Rod's much longer set was over, people forget she was ever even there. :distress:

[Jondalar]

It's so true. The best music came out when they were, as Christine said, "Tearing each other limb from limb."

This is totally true.

[soul_drifter333]

It's so true. The best music came out when they were, as Christine said, "Tearing each other limb from limb."

Are you saying they're dysfunctional? :eek:

[jbrownsjr]

Are you saying they're dysfunctional? :eek:

If you go back to Christine's film, "Fleetwood Mac's Songbird". They asked her what's changed in 15 years. She chuckles and says something about Stevie and Lindsey are still tearing each other apart limb for limb. She also said it in her Ken Bruce interview before she officially came back. She talked of Races are Run and how tight Stevie and Lindsey are musically. Then she laughed and said, "Not in any other way, these days." (2013)

I know that during the Dance she was tired of them constantly fighting. Touring with Stevie throwing her power around must have been exhausting. And Lindsey was the director who was trying to put the show together. I think he brought out the best of the 5 of them on The Dance tour. After Christine left, I think Lindsey didn't have any support because Stevie threw her weight around and Mick sides with her. John doesn't care.

He's always helped her career, and she's always used her fame to pummel him. That's my opinion. I mean Silver Springs with Neil would be way better than The Dance version! Don't you think?

[button-lip]

Lindsey brought Christine back to us. Not Stevie. And yet, who bragged about bringing Christine back with a spirit catcher, told her to get in shape, and then lectured her how hard it was to be on tour?

Don't forget she also mimicked her English accent. The nerve!!! :D

[soul_drifter333]

If you go back to Christine's film, "Fleetwood Mac's Songbird". They asked her what's changed in 15 years. She chuckles and says something about Stevie and Lindsey are still tearing each other apart limb for limb. She also said it in her Ken Bruce interview before she officially came back. She talked of Races are Run and how tight Stevie and Lindsey are musically. Then she laughed and said, "Not in any other way, these days." (2013)

I know that during the Dance she was tired of them constantly fighting. Touring with Stevie throwing her power around must have been exhausting. And Lindsey was the director who was trying to put the show together. I think he brought out the best of the 5 of them on The Dance tour. After Christine left, I think Lindsey didn't have any support because Stevie threw her weight around and Mick sides with her. John doesn't care.

He's always helped her career, and she's always used her fame to pummel him. That's my opinion. I mean Silver Springs with Neil would be way better than The Dance version! Don't you think?

When you think about it they had a nice run. You have 4 (minus John) alphas with completely different personalities, vying for power and control, and achieving unimageable fame, wealth, and adulation. Add excessive drug and alcohol abuse and broken personal relationships and it's amazing they stayed together and achieved what they did. If they could only go back to pre 1976 and remember what they were really like and try to be a little more humble about where they are currently. All of them, especially Mick and Stevie, act like they deserve the wealth and adulation that they have instead of really appreciating it. To say it has gone to all of their heads would be an understatement.

[SteveMacD]

All of them, especially Mick and Stevie, act like they deserve the wealth and adulation that they have instead of really appreciating it. To say it has gone to all of their heads would be an understatement.

That’s hardly new, though. Bob Welch said how they (Mick, John, and Christine) were on some type of mystical quest, as if by appointment to Her Majesty in a 1994 BBC special.

https://youtu.be/XXcKxJBBDYU

Stevie and Lindsey had that, too.

[jeets2000]

This seems relevant, given our never-ending discussions here about what went wrong and why: someone put together a brief video for Stevie that aired last night during the Tom Petty 70th birthday celebration (which was great, btw).

https://twitter.com/Nickslive/status/1319830251455721472

At about the 0:53 mark in this video, she admits Petty was her "moral compass." A surprising moment of self-awareness from someone who has struggled mightily with that in recent years. May help explain (though never justify) some of her behavior of late.

She also uses this video to, by using others' words, claim she was Tom Petty's best friend and a "premiere" songwriter. I'm not saying she wasn't/isn't either of those things. Just feels like poor taste to shoehorn in things like that in a remembrance video. But... that's our gal. :eek:

[soul_drifter333]

This seems relevant, given our never-ending discussions here about what went wrong and why: someone put together a brief video for Stevie that aired last night during the Tom Petty 70th birthday celebration (which was great, btw).

https://twitter.com/Nickslive/status/1319830251455721472

At about the 0:53 mark in this video, she admits Petty was her "moral compass." A surprising moment of self-awareness from someone who has struggled mightily with that in recent years. May help explain (though never justify) some of her behavior of late.

She also uses this video to, by using others' words, claim she was Tom Petty's best friend and a "premiere" songwriter. I'm not saying she wasn't/isn't either of those things. Just feels like poor taste to shoehorn in things like that in a remembrance video. But... that's our gal. :eek:

I wonder what Tom's advice would have been to her when she contemplated firing Lindsey? I also wonder how Mike could have so easily jumped in Lindsey's place and how he would have felt if he had been fired from the Heartbreakers and replaced so easily. No shame for these people.

[jmn3]

In the case of Petty, I truly do believe that her words are sincere (albeit with a touch of self-congratulatory tone that she always does...at least she didn’t mention the Hall of Fame). I have no idea if Tom would’ve considered Stevie his best friend but it wouldn’t surprise me that she’d consider him one of her closest male friends. Didn’t he comment that she always insisted on being in his life. Almost like he liked her but not nearly as much as her clinger self liked him.

I will say that I’ve long felt that if Barbara Nicks and Tom Petty were still alive, the whole Lindsey firing fiasco wouldn’t have happened. She truly does have nobody around her who will tell her the truth and not be yes-men. When all of your friends and family are on your payroll, they aren’t going to risk the gravy train. Mike Campbells availability aside, I think Tom would’ve had some remarks for Stevie and how foolish firing Lindsey would be.

[HomerMcvie]

I will say that I’ve long felt that if Barbara Nicks and Tom Petty were still alive, the whole Lindsey firing fiasco wouldn’t have happened. She truly does have nobody around her who will tell her the truth and not be yes-men. When all of your friends and family are on your payroll, they aren’t going to risk the gravy train. Mike Campbells availability aside, I think Tom would’ve had some remarks for Stevie and how foolish firing Lindsey would be.
THIS.

Spot on.

$he has NO ONE to set her straight now. Just ego gone wild.

[Storms123]

THIS.

Spot on.

$he has NO ONE to set her straight now. Just ego gone wild.


Well, there was Lindsey, but she had him removed from her life, so now she only surrounds herself with people that are on her payroll

[SteveMacD]

I also wonder how Mike could have so easily jumped in Lindsey's place and how he would have felt if he had been fired from the Heartbreakers and replaced so easily. No shame for these people.

They didn’t tell Mike that they fired Lindsey. Still, let’s say they had and he turned them down, Fleetwood Mac would still have gotten someone else, probably Rick Vito.

[jbrownsjr]

They didn’t tell Mike that they fired Lindsey. Still, let’s say they had and he turned them down, Fleetwood Mac would still have gotten someone else, probably Rick Vito.

I'd bet everything that Mick and Nicks told MC that Lindsey left.

[HomerMcvie]

I'd bet everything that Mick and Nicks told MC that Lindsey left.

So you're saying that not only is $tevie a liar, but Mick is too?

Shirley you jest! :p

[michelej1]

When you think about it they had a nice run. You have 4 (minus John) alphas with completely different personalities, vying for power and control, and achieving unimageable fame, wealth, and adulation. Add excessive drug and alcohol abuse and broken personal relationships and it's amazing they stayed together and achieved what they did. If they could only go back to pre 1976 and remember what they were really like and try to be a little more humble about where they are currently. All of them, especially Mick and Stevie, act like they deserve the wealth and adulation that they have instead of really appreciating it. To say it has gone to all of their heads would be an understatement.

I wouldn’t call Christine an Alpha.

[elle]

All of them, especially Mick and Stevie, act like they deserve the wealth and adulation that they have instead of really appreciating it. To say it has gone to all of their heads would be an understatement.

that's what i also love about Lindsey - he doesn't. in almost every recent interview he says how lucky he and they all were, to have made it. he has been very humble. he may recognize his own talent, but many other people are hugely talented too, yet they never make it. it's refreshing to hear him being down to earth.

he's aware, unlike at least Mick and Stevie who both always act like it's somehow their right to be rich and successful.

[elle]

I will say that I’ve long felt that if Barbara Nicks and Tom Petty were still alive, the whole Lindsey firing fiasco wouldn’t have happened. She truly does have nobody around her who will tell her the truth and not be yes-men. When all of your friends and family are on your payroll, they aren’t going to risk the gravy train. Mike Campbells availability aside, I think Tom would’ve had some remarks for Stevie and how foolish firing Lindsey would be.

definitely. those were people who were not yes people and not afraid to say what they mean. the only other one was somewhat Lindsey, but with all the 50-year baggage between them, that was the part that she also wanted to get rid off. just yes-people from then on. which is so visible in her recent interviews. i even cringe for her how self-aggrandizing and completely narcissistic she sounds. she dumps on many others too, not even just Lindsey anymore - dumps on Gaga, Madonna, Miley (incidentally mostly women who were more successful than her in the same line of business) while elevates herself into being a best friend of men who are more successful then her in the business. it's bizarre.

[elle]

They didn’t tell Mike that they fired Lindsey. Still, let’s say they had and he turned them down, Fleetwood Mac would still have gotten someone else, probably Rick Vito.

is that what Mike said in that one interview when he praised Lindsey?

[bombaysaffires]

I love her saying how Tom's first wife Jane said that, aside from her (as his wife), Stevie was Tom's best friend.

Now, I wonder how people like say, oh, Mike Campbell feel about that? Or his assistant, Bugs, who in Tom's bio is unanimously cited as being the one person who went through EVERYTHING with Tom and knew all his secrets and never, ever betrayed them.

And it's interesting that it was his FIRST wife who said that... wonder what his current wife would think about that. I"m betting she feels like SHE herself was closer to Tom than either his first wife OR Stevie. Just sayin'.

Despit her self-aggrandizing delusions about feminism, she absolutely has lived most of her life according to the traditional gender roles that were in place when she was born in the 1940s and growing up in the 1950s. She still feels like men are the ones with power and therefore are the ones she wants to align herself with, emulate, and charm into letting her into their club. And she can flirt and get them to help her do the hard stuff, because she doesn't ever want to do the heavy lifting.

I love her comment about how those at the top of the success ladder are a very small, exclusive tribe, and how really she can only turn to and be understood by someone else who is at the top, breathing the rarified air she breathes.

Oy. The ego is so very strong with this one.

[SteveMacD]

is that what Mike said in that one interview when he praised Lindsey?

He said it in an interview after the tour, IIRC.

Honestly, though, I don’t think anything would have changed either way. Fleetwood Mac wouldn’t have brought back Lindsey if Mike passed on them, they would have just found someone else. Fleetwood Mac needed a guitarist, there was no chance they were asking Lindsey back, and Mike didn’t have anything significant on the horizon. Why wouldn’t he take the gig?

[elle]

He said it in an interview after the tour, IIRC.

Honestly, though, I don’t think anything would have changed either way. Fleetwood Mac wouldn’t have brought back Lindsey if Mike passed on them, they would have just found someone else. Fleetwood Mac needed a guitarist, there was no chance they were asking Lindsey back, and Mike didn’t have anything significant on the horizon. Why wouldn’t he take the gig?

hard to tell. there were some theories at the time that they knew / made sure Mike was on board before they ousted Lindsey.

also, there were many theories at the time that they hoped Mike would be able to actually replace Lindsey. then they figured out he cannot and they have to find a guy who can sing Lindsey's FM songs too.

which is weird in itself, if they were going for a full-on coup, they should have just not cover Lindsey's songs, like they only covered Don't Stop of Christine's which was easy since Lindsey was sharing lead with Christine there anyway. i guess it was azoff-style coup.

[jmn3]

I love her comment about how those at the top of the success ladder are a very small, exclusive tribe, and how really she can only turn to and be understood by someone else who is at the top, breathing the rarified air she breathes.


I found this part of her recording to be sad. She's in her damn 70's and still feels "lonely at the top." One, let's face it, in 2020, despite her continued popularity, she ain't at the damn top anymore. She hasn't been at the top in decades. Two, I think it sounds awfully pathetic that at 72 years old, she lacks the relationships with other humans who don't know what it's like to breathe that rarified air. She doesn't have anyone to turn to because they can't understand. This is right in that vein of why Mr. Stevie Nicks could never happen because no 'regular' man could ever 'accept' her world. This is where Lindsey wins at the game of life, despite record or concert ticket sales or the ability to control Fleetwood Mac. It's not just about having a spouse or children either. You can have real, meaningful relationships with people you aren't married to or their parent. Just because she's famous, she can only really open up to people also in that world? My God, she's like an old white lady Kardashian.

[HomerMcvie]

I found this part of her recording to be sad. She's in her damn 70's and still feels "lonely at the top." One, let's face it, in 2020, despite her continued popularity, she ain't at the damn top anymore. She hasn't been at the top in decades. Two, I think it sounds awfully pathetic that at 72 years old, she lacks the relationships with other humans who don't know what it's like to breathe that rarified air. She doesn't have anyone to turn to because they can't understand. This is right in that vein of why Mr. Stevie Nicks could never happen because no 'regular' man could ever 'accept' her world. This is where Lindsey wins at the game of life, despite record or concert ticket sales or the ability to control Fleetwood Mac. It's not just about having a spouse or children either. You can have real, meaningful relationships with people you aren't married to or their parent. Just because she's famous, she can only really open up to people also in that world? My God, she's like an old white lady Kardashian.
She's a miserable POS. I sometimes wonder if she knows that, deep inside.

[jmn3]

She's a miserable POS. I sometimes wonder if she knows that, deep inside.

A true narcissist typically does not know that.

[jbrownsjr]

A true narcissist typically does not know that.

Especially, when she lies so much to herself and the media.

[David]

Despit her self-aggrandizing delusions about feminism, she absolutely has lived most of her life according to the traditional gender roles that were in place when she was born in the 1940s and growing up in the 1950s. She still feels like men are the ones with power and therefore are the ones she wants to align herself with, emulate, and charm into letting her into their club. And she can flirt and get them to help her do the hard stuff, because she doesn't ever want to do the heavy lifting.I concur. Stevie’s feminism seems to be a function (or even result) of her worldwide success rather than a driver of it. I was thinking about a very different rocker, Chrissie Hynde, whose feminism drove her success — it spurred it. Hynde’s attitude was always self-assertion in order to get some result; Stevie’s was to bend in some way to men (other sings, producers, the men in her family) to stroke them and generate some response that she desired. Far be it from me to say that one approach is better or worse than another, but Stevie is definitely different from someone very different, like Hynde.

https://youtu.be/LWaZGmgjDjg?t=171

[jbrownsjr]

I concur. Stevie’s feminism seems to be a function (or even result) of her worldwide success rather than a driver of it. I was thinking about a very different rocker, Chrissie Hynde, whose feminism drove her success — it spurred it. Hynde’s attitude was always self-assertion in order to get some result; Stevie’s was to bend in some way to men (other sings, producers, the men in her family) to stroke them and generate some response that she desired. Far be it from me to say that one approach is better or worse than another, but Stevie is definitely different from someone very different, like Hynde.

https://youtu.be/LWaZGmgjDjg?t=171

Absolutely. I do indeed remember all the MTV interviews with Hynde. CH came off as someone with an agenda. Stevie was busy being rock royalty. I don't fault her for that. I was fascinated by her and Christine. But to say Stevie was a pioneer for women? Maybe by default.

[Justin Reach]

Absolutely. I do indeed remember all the MTV interviews with Hynde. CH came off as someone with an agenda. Stevie was busy being rock royalty. I don't fault her for that. I was fascinated by her and Christine. But to say Stevie was a pioneer for women? Maybe by default.

I'd say there's a bigger argument for saying that Christine was a pioneer for women, especially when she was one of the few women involved in the blues scene in the late 60's/early 70's.

[sue]

I'd say there's a bigger argument for saying that Christine was a pioneer for women, especially when she was one of the few women involved in the blues scene in the late 60's/early 70's.

I think your right, the British blues scene in the 6O’s was very much a male world, with very few women, Christine did more than just hold her own.
I think she calls a spade a spade and is very down to earth, straight talking.

It may be different in The USA,( you would see more of her)...but I’ve never thought of Stevie as a feminist, using your feminine charms to get your way, is not feminism...

[HomerMcvie]

I think your right, the British blues scene in the 6O’s was very much a male world, with very few women, Christine did more than just hold her own.
I think she calls a spade a spade and is very down to earth, straight talking.

It may be different in The USA,( you would see more of her)...but I’ve never thought of Stevie as a feminist, using your feminine charms to get your way, is not feminism...
I agree. Chrissie Hynde had far more in common with our Christine than $tevie.

Using your honey pot to get your way isn't feminism. It's the opposite!

$he's such a trailblazer. :laugh:

[Macfan4life]

I agree. Chrissie Hynde had far more in common with our Christine than $tevie.

Using your honey pot to get your way isn't feminism. It's the opposite!

$he's such a trailblazer. :laugh:
Doesn't shaking a taped tambourine out of time count for anything?

[HomerMcvie]

Doesn't shaking a taped tambourine out of time count for anything?

Digital arrhythmia.

[aleuzzi]

Christine is definitely the trailblazer for women in rock. Like many trailblazers, she is woefully undersung. The very thing that made her such a pioneer—ie: her love of the music and her desire to help shape it as a player—kept her from drawing more recognition. And that’s the way she has always preferred it.

But even if some important critic were to acknowledge Christine’s pioneering work, the general public wouldn’t much care. She lacks what Stevie has: mass appeal. For me, Christine will always be the heart of FM from 1970 onward. But to most people she isn’t charismatic or outrageous enough to be a focal point, the center of stardom.

[jbrownsjr]

Christine is definitely the trailblazer for women in rock. Like many trailblazers, she is woefully undersung. The very thing that made her such a pioneer—ie: her love of the music and her desire to help shape it as a player—kept her from drawing more recognition. And that’s the way she has always preferred it.

But even if some important critic were to acknowledge Christine’s pioneering work, the general public wouldn’t much care. She lacks what Stevie has: mass appeal. For me, Christine will always be the heart of FM from 1970 onward. But to most people she isn’t charismatic or outrageous enough to be a focal point, the center of stardom.

So beautifully stated. I feel the same way. One is bloated with fame and ego. The other is elegant, funny, and humble.

[aleuzzi]

So beautifully stated. I feel the same way. One is bloated with fame and ego. The other is elegant, funny, and humble.

It figures that two western-NYS born guys with the same birthdate would be of the same mind :)

[HomerMcvie]

But even if some important critic were to acknowledge Christine’s pioneering work, the general public wouldn’t much care. She lacks what Stevie has: mass appeal. For me, Christine will always be the heart of FM from 1970 onward. But to most people she isn’t charismatic or outrageous enough to be a focal point, the center of stardom.

Lindsey lacks the mass appeal, too. I'm often amazed that $tevie's fans focus on what $he's wearing. Now that's some deep sh*t.:p

Christine has been the heart of FM for my entire fandom.

Oh yeah, did you notice what she's wearing today? It simply doesn't matter. Some of us focus on the music, and not someone wearing the same ridiculous outfit for decades, or how many spins they can still huff out without falling down.

[michelej1]

I just think Christine has the edge because she’s a musician, in addition to being a singer and true songwriter.

[Macfan4life]

Christine definitely takes a different conservative view of women in rock and rock stars in general. I love her 1980 interview where sort of states there is no difference for men and women in rock n roll. She admits women can be harassed but says if you are not being harassed you should worry. Her sense of humor comes out especially when she answers the question if she is introverted and she responds "depends on how drunk I am."
I also love the counter point of so many rock stars who complain how "hard" it is life on the road. She exclaims how pampered they all are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ8oLODVE3U

[michelej1]

But Christine remembered that when they were poor and on the road, she could not even get any alone time with her husband.

[HomerMcvie]

Christine definitely takes a different conservative view of women in rock and rock stars in general. I love her 1980 interview where sort of states there is no difference for men and women in rock n roll. She admits women can be harassed but says if you are not being harassed you should worry. Her sense of humor comes out especially when she answers the question if she is introverted and she responds "depends on how drunk I am."
I also love the counter point of so many rock stars who complain how "hard" it is life on the road. She exclaims how pampered they all are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ8oLODVE3U
I think she chose to never be a victim to anyone.

Even though she was always my favorite, she's also the only one I'd be afraid of. :lol:

[David]

which is weird in itself, if they were going for a full-on coup, they should have just not cover Lindsey's songsProbably would have been best for the momentum of the show. When the set would venture into Buckingham territory with Neal (is that how you spell his name?) on lead vocal, it felt peremptory (is that the word?) — “we’re doing this song because it conveys the impression to at least some of you that we’re really still the same Fleetwood Mac whose fourteen remastered greatest hits albums you probably own.”

But then I think back over all the covers of LB’s stuff, and there isn’t very much of it that interests me. Even the Camper van Beethoven redo is only intermittently interesting to me. (The idea is great, but the execution is not.) Maybe Matthew Sweet’s “Second Hand News” is good without making me in any way forget the original.

[SteveMacD]

Maybe Matthew Sweet’s “Second Hand News” is good without making me in any way forget the original.
Especially since Lindsey plays guitar on it.