Lindsey hospitalized for emergency heart surgery

[HomerMcvie]

https://www.facebook.com/fleetwoodmacuk/photos/pcb.2004420359611808/2004420309611813/?type=3&theater

[Macfan4life]

OMG this is so scary and was Lindsey's biggest fear. He lost his dad and brother to sudden heart attacks at young ages.
I pray for a speedy recovery.

[HomerMcvie]

His neck looks awful. Not sure if that's normal after heart surgery...

[sue]

Oh this is very sad news, hoping he will be okay..
He has much love and support from his family.
Here’s to a speedy recovery....

Health and happiness really is the most important thing we can have..

[BlanketMan]

Terrible news... hoping for a speedy recovery. Just saw him at the end of November and he looked and sounded so great. You just never know, especially with heart problems. Hopefully he's made it through the most treacherous part and will be OK.

[jbrownsjr]

Man, this last year has been rough for LB and family. I hope he recovers quickly. Hope the vocal chords are ok.

[mitzo]

Quite a shock and tragic. Hope the heart heals well but the vocal cord story is scary.

[Jondalar]

Thanks Stevie! I’m sure you are you happy!!!!!

[michelej1]

I have admonished you many times before Jondalar, but not this time.

[msLinds]

I was was very sad and worryed to hear Lindsey had open heart surgery.I'm glad they caught it and repaired it.I hope he makes a speedy and fast recovery.
No matter what happens with Lindsey;s voice.He is still is a great Guitar player.I'm sending my prayers,love and support for him and his family.
We Love you Lindsey.:wavey:

[dreamsunwind]

Ah this is so upsetting :(
I really hope he recovers as best as possible, but that’s quite scary for nearly 70 years old. His family has been through a lot the past year.

[justdreamin]

When I saw the post, one of the first things I thought about after the initial shock was that I wonder if him not being with FM this year had actually saved his life. His own tour, while stressful, was on his terms and probably not as stressful as touring with FM. Would he have been pressured to perform while feeling ill? It's all speculation obviously.
I hope his vocal chords recover, but mostly I'm grateful he's alive and recovering and is there for his family. What a year they've had. Brightest blessings to all.

[annabellee]

First of all, I wish Lindsey great health and a speedy recovery. My dad and my dad-in-law both had open heart surgery. It's a long road to recovery. I hope the damage to his vocal cords are temporary and his sweet voice can be heard again, live and on record!

I'm not surprised the following was posted, but I'm actually surprised it took 8 posts in to make Stevie responsible. I think this is the post that should serve as an awakening. Be nice to each other people, and to the members of Fleetwood Mac. That's why we're all here. Long live all of the MAC!

Thanks Stevie! I’m sure you are you happy!!!!!

[AncientQueen]

Thanks Stevie! I’m sure you are you happy!!!!!
That's utter bull****. She is not responsible for a cardiovascular disease that has a genetic component. She is also not responsible for his anger issues and she has not been around him for a year now.
But if World War 3 breaks out, you'll sure find a way to make Stevie responsible for that, too.

I really hope that he can make a full recovery, that pic is so sad and horrifying, you can see that he went to hell and back. My dad had a heart attack at the same age, he had open heart surgery, too, he needed nearly a year to recover, but then, he was really fine again.

[Macfan4life]

When I saw the post, one of the first things I thought about after the initial shock was that I wonder if him not being with FM this year had actually saved his life. His own tour, while stressful, was on his terms and probably not as stressful as touring with FM. Would he have been pressured to perform while feeling ill? It's all speculation obviously.
I hope his vocal chords recover, but mostly I'm grateful he's alive and recovering and is there for his family. What a year they've had. Brightest blessings to all.
OMG I did not think of that. He was not on tour and more relaxed when this happened. If he was with the Mac, he would have been on tour in some city and stressed. Its possible he could have been critical or even worse.
Everything happens for a reason. Thank goodness Lindsey was not on tour with the Mac

[Jondalar]

That's utter bull****. She is not responsible for a cardiovascular disease that has a genetic component. She is also not responsible for his anger issues and she has not been around him for a year now.
But if World War 3 breaks out, you'll sure find a way to make Stevie responsible for that, too.

I really hope that he can make a full recovery, that pic is so sad and horrifying, you can see that he went to hell and back. My dad had a heart attack at the same age, he had open heart surgery, too, he needed nearly a year to recover, but then, he was really fine again.

Bull! Everyone knows she got him kicked out of the band that he made famous for “smirking” at her. One of the most juvenile, self-centered reasons ever. She gave the band an ultimatum about a man who was almost 70 years and who had been a band mate for decades. She put him and his family through hell and a lawsuit. Totally selfish. She is a taker. He is a giver. He gave the band his best work and got kicked out by the petty princess. If he would of died, she would somehow make his death all about her pain. She would be the victim, someway, somehow.

[lisarod]

Sending lots of love and prayers to our Lindsey. When I first read about this I was so angry at the band. But after reading other posts stating it was perhaps a good thing he was home and not a stressful FM tour I tend to agree. He sure didn't need the stress of being on tour with Stevie...

[AncientQueen]

Bull! Everyone knows she got him kicked out of the band that he made famous for “smirking” at her. One of the most juvenile, self-centered reasons ever. She gave the band an ultimatum about a man who was almost 70 years and who had been a band mate for decades. She put him and his family through hell and a lawsuit. Totally selfish. She is a taker. He is a giver. He gave the band his best work and got kicked out by the petty princess. If he would of died, she would somehow make his death all about her pain. She would be the victim, someway, somehow.
What part in: "He has a a genetic disposal for cardiovascular diseases" did you not process?

[tothegypsy]

Bull! Everyone knows she got him kicked out of the band that he made famous for “smirking” at her. One of the most juvenile, self-centered reasons ever. She gave the band an ultimatum about a man who was almost 70 years and who had been a band mate for decades. She put him and his family through hell and a lawsuit. Totally selfish. She is a taker. He is a giver. He gave the band his best work and got kicked out by the petty princess. If he would of died, she would somehow make his death all about her pain. She would be the victim, someway, somehow.

This is a sad situation, but the idea that anyone needs to remain in a personal or professional relationship they don't want to be in, because ending the relationship might somehow indirectly trigger a latent health problem, is a deeply misguided and disturbing suggestion.

[dreamsunwind]

Sending lots of love and prayers to our Lindsey. When I first read about this I was so angry at the band. But after reading other posts stating it was perhaps a good thing he was home and not a stressful FM tour I tend to agree. He sure didn't need the stress of being on tour with Stevie...

Based off everything he ever said about it, I think that getting pushed out of the band was probably 10x more stressful than any spats with Stevie. I wouldn’t be surprised if the strain from it over the past year partially contributed to making him sick. That being said, to blame his health conditions on anyone else is ridiculous.

[lisarod]

Based off everything he ever said about it, I think that getting pushed out of the band was probably 10x more stressful than any spats with Stevie. I wouldn’t be surprised if the strain from it over the past year partially contributed to making him sick. That being said, to blame his health conditions on anyone else is ridiculous.

I agree what they did must have caused him massive amounts of stress but I was looking at it in a more fatalistic way. What if this heart attack had happened (on tour w FM) anyway because of his genetic predisposition for heart disease. The stressors of being on the road may have made it much worse!

[michelej1]

I believe there is good stress and bad stress and that the physical requirements of touring with the Big Machine is distinct from the emotions involved in being kicked out of the band and feeling anger, hurt, betrayal and depression. I don’t think the ouster was a boon to his health.

I know about his history. After all, Stevie is the one who boasted she handed the phone to him when he got the news that his father died. I think his brother’s death softened estranged relations with the band and caused him to appear at the end of the BTM tour. Yes, this fear has long been lurking. This is a family health problem, but like any other physical element it can be triggered and it was.

[button-lip]

This is a sad situation, but the idea that anyone needs to remain in a personal or professional relationship they don't want to be in, because ending the relationship might somehow indirectly trigger a latent health problem, is a deeply misguided and disturbing suggestion.

What they did, firing him with a phone call and without a reason, is equally disturbing. Trying to find out what you did wrong for over a year can cause a lot of stress.

[Morgana]

That's utter bull****. She is not responsible for a cardiovascular disease that has a genetic component. She is also not responsible for his anger issues and she has not been around him for a year now.
But if World War 3 breaks out, you'll sure find a way to make Stevie responsible for that, too.

I really hope that he can make a full recovery, that pic is so sad and horrifying, you can see that he went to hell and back. My dad had a heart attack at the same age, he had open heart surgery, too, he needed nearly a year to recover, but then, he was really fine again.


AncientQueen you are so blessed to have your father with you still. As a heart attack survivor and warrior along with breast cancer let me say this,.......we all all pre-disposed to something that will hit us later in life, sometimes earlier. Your comments about the stress that led to Lindsey's heart condition are calloused and cold. I can tell you this, I was passionate about my career until it ended with a heart attack, Lindsey was as well, ever hear of this?
Takotsubo cardiomyopathy (broken-heart syndrome)

Yeah, its a real thing and my heart attack was from stress and a pre disposed heart condition, familial. STRESS my dear, STRESS! And in case you don't know, Stevie's father had heart problems, so she needs to be aware of this more than ever now. We don't know how much time we have left and Fleetwood Mac pulled the trigger to the stress which resulted in that open heart surgery. Have you ever been passionate about anything in life and cared,loved something or someone with your entire being? When we are and suddenly something happens to hurt us or ends our passionate careers it leads to heart problems, if we are predisposed it may happen sooner than later. We just don't know when tragedy will hit us, do I blame Stevie? Yes, and not just her, but the rest of Fleetwood Mac, but when its time to, "Go Your Own way" sometimes its hard and hurtful and a SHOCK! We need to be thankful for each day we have. I am thankful for the music and their determination to make a positive difference in the world through their music.

[jwd]

Get well Lindsey, our prayers are with you. Thank God you are still with us.

[bombaysaffires]

I believe there is good stress and bad stress and that the physical requirements of touring with the Big Machine is distinct from the emotions involved in being kicked out of the band and feeling anger, hurt, betrayal and depression. I don’t think the ouster was a boon to his health.

I know about his history. After all, Stevie is the one who boasted she handed the phone to him when he got the news that his father died. I think his brother’s death softened estranged relations with the band and caused him to appear at the end of the BTM tour. Yes, this fear has long been lurking. This is a family health problem, but like any other physical element it can be triggered and it was.

I'm also remembering this exchange on CBS about his ouster from the band:

Anthony Mason (interviewer): do you feel like you've been kicked out of the family?

LB: I do, but I don't feel that... it was something that was my doing.

Interviewer: But that's gotta hurt

LB: It hurt for a while. I did walk around for a few months with a very visceral reaction to that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wvfj0zqBDo&t=402s

[bombaysaffires]

The band's reaction via social media is a joke, and Stevie's people just retweeting the antiseptic band statement is pathetic. Really? God forbid he hadn't survived this or if he were to have a bad outcome down the road -- any attempts to say how bad she feels will ring hollow.

No class at all. Would it have killed them (no pun intended) to say something a little more human? It was essentially written by lawyers or lame PR people. F U Azoff.

[dreamsunwind]

The band's reaction via social media is a joke, and Stevie's people just retweeting the antiseptic band statement is pathetic. Really? God forbid he hadn't survived this or if he were to have a bad outcome down the road -- any attempts to say how bad she feels will ring hollow.

No class at all. Would it have killed them (no pun intended) to say something a little more human? It was essentially written by lawyers or lame PR people. F U Azoff.

I agree. I realize none of them run their social media pages but whoever does should be fired. The copy and paste just looks stupid.

[Storms123]

The band's reaction via social media is a joke, and Stevie's people just retweeting the antiseptic band statement is pathetic. Really? God forbid he hadn't survived this or if he were to have a bad outcome down the road -- any attempts to say how bad she feels will ring hollow.

No class at all. Would it have killed them (no pun intended) to say something a little more human? It was essentially written by lawyers or lame PR people. F U Azoff.

Don't forget how dismissive and ridiculous the statement the band made when they announced he wasn't touring with them. Total disrespect. Am curious to see if he winds up getting a "Landslide" dedication at some point over the next few shows. Would be par for the course for this crew.

[dreamsunwind]

This is a sad situation, but the idea that anyone needs to remain in a personal or professional relationship they don't want to be in, because ending the relationship might somehow indirectly trigger a latent health problem, is a deeply misguided and disturbing suggestion.

I highly doubt that whenever that decision was made anyone really had it in their mind at all that it could impact someone’s health so certainly shouldn’t villanize them for it but Lindsey himself and pretty much everyone else who knows him has said that the situation was very, very, very stressful on him and honestly the impact that severe stress has on someone’s health (especially an older person with a family history of heart trouble) can’t ever be underestimated. And considering that he’s said (minus Christine) that no one in the band has contacted him for a year and has actually rebuffed his attempts to speak, they do look like jerks coming out with a “statement” about this. I realize they would probably also look like jerks if they hadn’t said anything at all but all that really tells you is that they are, indeed, jerks.

[bombaysaffires]

Don't forget how dismissive and ridiculous the statement the band made when they announced he wasn't touring with them. Total disrespect. Am curious to see if he winds up getting a "Landslide" dedication at some point over the next few shows. Would be par for the course for this crew.

this is a woman who can't do a single interview without saying his name fifteen times. Recall the interview with Jimmy Iovine when they were mentoring on Idol or some such where she gushed about LB so much Jimmy finally said something like "We get it Lindsey was gorgeous" or whatever.....and then she threw him some lame bone about his "fantastic little body" or something.

[SteveMacD]

Wow. Suddenly The Ledge has become the new WebMD.

[cbBen]

The copy and paste just looks stupid.

Copied from where?

[iamnotafraid]

Wow, I just saw this story on the Drudge Report.
It was linked to the Rolling Stone article.

I'm very thankful he's recovering.

[dreamsunwind]

Copied from where?

Mick and Christine’s FB pages have the FM statement copied. And Stevie just retweeted it. Like I realize they’re not running these pages themselves but it’s like the intern can’t even try a little harder.

[aleuzzi]

This is so very sad. I saw Lindsey in Buffalo a few months back and was awed by his vigor and surprising vocal strength. His dismissal from FM was brutal and unnecessary, but many of us were so happy to see him carry on and excel at his own music. I hope this episode doesn’t further rob him of opportunities.

[BombaySapphire3]

Yeah, its a real thing and my heart attack was from stress and a pre disposed heart condition, familial. STRESS my dear, STRESS! And in case you don't know, Stevie's father had heart problems, so she needs to be aware of this more than ever now.

Don't worry about her. That old battle axe will be the last one standing of the Rumours 5.

[Morgana]

[QUOTE=SteveMacD;1248464]Wow. Suddenly The Ledge has become the new WebMD.[/QUOTE

If you have not BEEN there with medical issues you have NO CLUE SteveMacD. You don't understand until you've BEEN there and experienced it or a loved one.

[SteveMacD]

If you have not BEEN there with medical issues you have NO CLUE SteveMacD. You don't understand until you've BEEN there and experienced it or a loved one.

Get off your high horse. I’m a live-in caregiver for my 76 year old mom who has survived four strokes in the last decade. My late stepfather (who I lived with for over twenty years) survived two heart attacks, a massive stroke, open heart surgery, two hip replacements, four knee replacements, lung cancer, Paget’s disease, and dementia.

I’ve been dealing with a heritary autoimmune disease and have had to have multiple infusions of drugs used to treat cancer as well as pills used to treat cancer. Oh, I know all about stress and illness.

[bombaysaffires]

must we really compete over who has the most family illnesses?

The topic is Lindsey and Fleetwood Mac.

[Dragon]

First, I would like to wish Lindsey good health and a full recovery. Emergency heart surgery is quick and scary.

Second, Mick, John, Christine, and Stevie are aware of Lindsey's health situation. If they are all in contact with Lindsey for well wishes and such, that is great and could be kept to them.

[secondhandchain]

OMG I did not think of that. He was not on tour and more relaxed when this happened. If he was with the Mac, he would have been on tour in some city and stressed. Its possible he could have been critical or even worse.
Everything happens for a reason. Thank goodness Lindsey was not on tour with the Mac

WTF? He has been SO HEARTBROKEN over this. And yes I hope she's happy now.

[bombaysaffires]

First, I would like to wish Lindsey good health and a full recovery. Emergency heart surgery is quick and scary.

Second, Mick, John, Christine, and Stevie are aware of Lindsey's health situation. If they are all in contact with Lindsey for well wishes and such, that is great and could be kept to them.

if they were that would be great. Sadly, based on their recent behaviors and the sterility of the official band statement, it would seem quite likely they are not.

[SteveMacD]

must we really compete over who has the most family illnesses?

Sorry, but that wasn’t a comment I could let slide after the year I’ve had. Especially on Methotrexate Friday.

[Dragon]

if they were that would be great. Sadly, based on their recent behaviors and the sterility of the official band statement, it would seem quite likely they are not.

Fleetwood Mac members may disagree with you.

[Lola]

Wow, I just saw this story on the Drudge Report.
It was linked to the Rolling Stone article.

I'm very thankful he's recovering.

Same here with Drudge. Thank God he's recovering and has supportive people with him.

I haven't posted here in many months--haven't read every single thing like I'd normally do. Feeling ground down by life lately and even though I know these low points are temporary this news about Lindsey is a gut punch. I'm grateful he's recovering but this is scary. My brother in law died of a heart attack. He collapsed in the bathroom in the middle of the night. Him and my sig other have a family history of heart disease (their dad died of a heart attack).

I'm praying my ass off LB makes a full recovery---vocals and all.

[bombaysaffires]

I hope for his sake they are in touch.

[Street_Dreamer]

if they were that would be great. Sadly, based on their recent behaviors and the sterility of the official band statement, it would seem quite likely they are not.

Billy, Rick or Bekka are more likely to send Lindsey well wishes than any of the current incarnation.

[Dragon]

Billy, Rick or Bekka are more likely to send Lindsey well wishes than any of the current incarnation.

I am sorry to hear you have a frail grasp of the world.

[button-lip]

First, I would like to wish Lindsey good health and a full recovery. Emergency heart surgery is quick and scary.

Second, Mick, John, Christine, and Stevie are aware of Lindsey's health situation. If they are all in contact with Lindsey for well wishes and such, that is great and could be kept to them.

If they're in contact with him, then why was he fired with a phone call by Azoff? :shrug:

[BombaySapphire3]

I am sorry to hear you have a frail grasp of the world.

These people are some cold pieces of work..it is you that seems a bit out of touch.

[button-lip]

Fleetwood Mac members may disagree with you.

Fleetwood Mac members that fired him may disagree with you.

[secondhandchain]

Should be interesting to see Goat Breath dancing around on stage tomorrow night like nothing has happened. Hope she's happy now. Did she cause this? No Does stress and heartbreak have a HUGE impact on your heart health? YES

[Dragon]

If they're in contact with him, then why was he fired with a phone call by Azoff? :shrug:

Some matters do not require intervention or involvement from Irving Azoff.

[Dragon]

Fleetwood Mac members that fired him may disagree with you.

The silver spoon that digs graves disagrees with you.

[sodascouts]

I desperately hope Stevie especially realizes life is too short not to reach out to Lindsey at this time. Even if she doesn't want to work with him again, she should care enough about him to do that. Hopefully dancing around your apartment rejoicing in your own happiness doesn't preclude caring when someone who was once "like a husband" to you almost dies.

The others should reach out to him, too... but she bears a greater responsibility because of the interweaving of their lives for the past 50+ years.

Prayers for Lindsey's recovery.

[AliceLover]

I desperately hope Stevie especially realizes life is too short not to reach out to Lindsey at this time. Even if she doesn't want to work with him again, she should care enough about him to do that. Hopefully dancing around your apartment rejoicing in your own happiness doesn't preclude caring when someone who was once "like a husband" to you almost dies.

The others should reach out to him, too... but she bears a greater responsibility because of the interweaving of their lives for the past 50+ years.

Prayers for Lindsey's recovery.

I was thinking the same thing. When is the next show? I wouldn’t be surprised if she mentioned it or did a dedication.

[bombaysaffires]

Seems like our old friend is back under a new name.

[Dragon]

I was thinking the same thing. When is the next show? I wouldn’t be surprised if she mentioned it or did a dedication.

Fleetwood Mac is performing in Austin, Texas, Saturday, 9 February.

As Stevie likes to dedicate "Landslide", she can dedicate it to Lindsey.

[secret love]

When I saw the post, one of the first things I thought about after the initial shock was that I wonder if him not being with FM this year had actually saved his life. His own tour, while stressful, was on his terms and probably not as stressful as touring with FM. Would he have been pressured to perform while feeling ill? It's all speculation obviously.
I hope his vocal chords recover, but mostly I'm grateful he's alive and recovering and is there for his family. What a year they've had. Brightest blessings to all.

Now this is much more helpful than the thinking that being fired caused stress and heart trouble. Too many people- Joondalar for one- are using this for political point scoring, which is disgusting and low.

[button-lip]

Seems like our old friend is back under a new name.

:laugh::laugh:

And it's crazier than ever!!!! We should just ignore him, if it's Mick, or ignore her, if it's Karen.

[secret love]

Should be interesting to see Goat Breath dancing around on stage tomorrow night like nothing has happened. Hope she's happy now. Did she cause this? No Does stress and heartbreak have a HUGE impact on your heart health? YES

Hm. I have bipolar disorder (yeah, go ahead and save that one up to use against me) and go through times of intense stress and metaphorical heartache. I've never had physical heart troubles. I've been hospitalised at least five times with intense stress and not so much as a murmur.

[button-lip]

Should be interesting to see Goat Breath dancing around on stage tomorrow night like nothing has happened. Hope she's happy now. Did she cause this? No Does stress and heartbreak have a HUGE impact on your heart health? YES

I honestly don't care if she dances tomorrow, if she's happy or if she dedicates Landslide to him. It won't change what happened a year ago, and how they unprofesionally they treated him.

They didn't cause this but they certainly helped. :nod:

[button-lip]

Hm. I have bipolar disorder (yeah, go ahead and save that one up to use against me) and go through times of intense stress and metaphorical heartache. I've never had physical heart troubles. I've been hospitalised at least five times with intense stress and not so much as a murmur.

You're 25 years old. He's 70.

[secondhandchain]

Hm. I have bipolar disorder (yeah, go ahead and save that one up to use against me) and go through times of intense stress and metaphorical heartache. I've never had physical heart troubles. I've been hospitalised at least five times with intense stress and not so much as a murmur.

Ya might want to look up stress and heart attacks or heart trouble...it's a thing. Sorry for your problems.

[secondhandchain]

I was thinking the same thing. When is the next show? I wouldn’t be surprised if she mentioned it or did a dedication.

No she won't, she'll ignore it.

[SteveMacD]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the firing added some stress on Lindsey’s heart, arguably more than a Fleetwood Mac tour would have. I have no medical background and don’t know Lindsey personally, so I can’t say one way or the other with any degree of certainty.

However, I do remember that he wasn’t planning on just a Fleetwood Mac tour, he was planning on a concurrent tour. How could a nearly 70 year old man with a genetic heart condition doing about 65 shows in under three months possibly go wrong?

In any event, it was certainly a punch to the gut when I saw it on Facebook. I hope he’ll be back to good health and have full use of his voice soon and will be able to continue recording and touring. We need his vital music!

[Jondalar]

I know some of you are trying to say that touring with Fleetwood Mac would of caused him more stress than getting fired from a band over nothing and going through a lawsuit, but that just because you are trying to take away blame from Fleetwood Mac.

[SteveMacD]

I know some of you are trying to say that touring with Fleetwood Mac would of caused him more stress than getting fired from a band over nothing and going through a lawsuit, but that just because you are trying to take away blame from Fleetwood Mac.

Sorry, but I can’t take the opinion of someone who consistently uses the phrase “would of” seriously when discussing things like heart disease.

[justdreamin]

I know some of you are trying to say that touring with Fleetwood Mac would of caused him more stress than getting fired from a band over nothing and going through a lawsuit, but that just because you are trying to take away blame from Fleetwood Mac.

Hey there, I think I said something to the effect that maybe it's was a good thing he wasn't on tour with FM because IMO that tour MIGHT have been more stressful than his solo tour, and I said that it was just speculation on my part.
Here's something that is not speculation. A person who has a father who has an early cardiac event (before age 55) is twice as likely to have an early cardiac event themself. Unfortunately, it was Lindsey's brother that bore the consequence of those genetics. As a nurse with 25 years in burns and ICU, I can say that best practice states stress, in and of itself, is less of a problem than how one deals with stress. If you have familial cardiac disease there is a list that goes like this in order of harm: smoking, diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, poor diet, little to no exercise, poor sleep and unmanageable stress.
I believe he would have had this happen to him regardless of who he was touring with or what he had going on in his life because of the science, not because I'm trying to let FM off the hook or whatever theory you've conjured up.
I feel awful for him and his family, as I have seen people get their chest cracked open in an emergency, and an ET tube hurriedly inserted, which absolutely inflames the vocal chords - sometimes scarring them permanently. It's a violent surgery on the body and not something I'd wish on anyone, ever. I'm guessing most people with any degree of compassion or empathy would feel the same.
Blaming serves no purpose, unless it's how you deal with your stress. Even then, there are healthier options.

[HomerMcvie]

Blaming serves no purpose, unless it's how you deal with your stress. Even then, there are healthier options.

Well, except for that we've been saying for the past year or so, that Old Goat Breath RUINED the end of FM, by firing their creative genius.

Age is taking it's toll, and someone was eventually going to have a significant issue, and it unfortunately was the youngest member.

So it's certainly looking like the final chapter in FM history is the f*cking COVER BAND version of FM. What a way to go out. Thanks a lot, Old Goat Breath. You *&^ %$#@.

[michelej1]

Don't worry about her. That old battle axe will be the last one standing of the Rumours 5.

Yes, she has often talked about how long the women in her family live. However if I were her I wouldn’t compare myself to Aunt Hildegard. I don’t think Aunt Hildegard did so much coke that she had a dime sized hole in her nose. The next 25 years aren’t promised to Stevie, but.she’ll probably get them and write a self-glorifying book when all the others are dead.

[HomerMcvie]

Yes, she has often talked about how long the women in her family live. However if I were her I wouldn’t compare myself to Aunt Hildegard. I don’t think Aunt Hildegard did so much coke that she had a dime sized hole in her nose. The next 25 years aren’t promised to Stevie, but.she’ll probably get them and write a self-glorifying book when all the others are dead.

You know what they say - only the good die young.

That old bitch gonna live to be 200.

[michelej1]

I think both Stevie and Mick will say something at the next concert, the hypocrisy of which will make me even madder.

[Jondalar]

Well, except for that we've been saying for the past year or so, that Old Goat Breath RUINED the end of FM, by firing their creative genius.

Age is taking it's toll, and someone was eventually going to have a significant issue, and it unfortunately was the youngest member.

So it's certainly looking like the final chapter in FM history is the f*cking COVER BAND version of FM. What a way to go out. Thanks a lot, Old Goat Breath. You *&^ %$#@.

If Lindsey died, how could she live with herself? Look at what she put him through.

[HomerMcvie]

I think both Stevie and Mick will say something at the next concert, the hypocrisy of which will make me even madder.

They're both horrible people. Narcissistic a$$holes. I actually think Dick is worse than Old Goat Breath(not by much, though). He's a f*cking sleazebag. ZERO class.

[HomerMcvie]

If Lindsey died, how could she live with herself? Look at what she put him through.

$he'll look into the mirror, and see her (plastic) beauty, and NOT FEEL A THING. $he doesn't care.

[bombaysaffires]

well, we've got a group of 5 in which two have had major health scares in recent years -- John and cancer, Lindsey and his heart. We don't know if speculation about Chris's hands is really true, but something seems to be causing some level of reduced capability or stamina in her hands. So let's say 2.5 of the 5 people have had health issues. All 3 singers have noticeable loss of vocal ability. The oldest band member is what, 75? The youngest is turning 70. As so many of us have been saying, time is not on their side and the sand will inevitably run out of the hourglass for one of them sooner rather than later. Just makes this whole debacle (firing LB, touring with hired hands) that much more ridiculous. I'd love to think that hearing about Lindsey's open heart surgery was a scary shock to Stevie...and not that many years ago I think there was no question it would have been....but honestly, nowadays, I just don't know. That whole "one day when one of us dies the other will be sitting on a bed alone".....I'm feeling like that's not the case anymore. Unless it garners her more attention for herself-- you know, she could go out and do a song with pics of her and LB up on the screen behind her, like she does with pics of Tom.

[bombaysaffires]

I think both Stevie and Mick will say something at the next concert, the hypocrisy of which will make me even madder.

Gosh I'm just not sure. They've gone so far off the deep end this time. And the polarizing effect of the lawsuit. And the evil influence of Azoff. And LB stopped pulling his punches after awhile with all that. Oh, and somebody in the band wanted to keep going with a replacement for John...I'd hate to think it was Mick but it was likely him or Stevie. So....their true, cold-hearted natures have been revealed in recent years.... :shrug:

[michelej1]

Gosh I'm just not sure. They've gone so far off the deep end this time. And the polarizing effect of the lawsuit. And the evil influence of Azoff. And LB stopped pulling his punches after awhile with all that. Oh, and somebody in the band wanted to keep going with a replacement for John...I'd hate to think it was Mick but it was likely him or Stevie. So....their true, cold-hearted natures have been revealed in recent years.... :shrug:

All of those years I thought they were a family deep down and that the arguments were secondary to their true emotions. Now it looks like that was all a fantasy I told myself. I am turning out to be a bad judge of character. I used to read Charles and Anne Lindbergh’s work, starting when I was in high school, and I thought they had this enduring marriage.It’s been revealed that he had a secret family, with seven children by three different women, while Anne was having an affair with their family doctor. I may be very gullible.

CAH wrote about how uncaring they were after Libdsey’s epileptic incident, but I thought they were just suppressing their true concern or ....

I am not just a person who waited to see SnL embrace at the end of Sara, I was touched whenever Mick and Christine kissed him too. I’ve never seen John kiss Lindsey, but when they clasped hands at the end of the BTM show (after it looked like they wouldn’t), I teared up. I have been such a sucker.

[missundercover]

I desperately hope Stevie especially realizes life is too short not to reach out to Lindsey at this time. Even if she doesn't want to work with him again, she should care enough about him to do that. Hopefully dancing around your apartment rejoicing in your own happiness doesn't preclude caring when someone who was once "like a husband" to you almost dies.

The others should reach out to him, too... but she bears a greater responsibility because of the interweaving of their lives for the past 50+ years.

Prayers for Lindsey's recovery.

Totally agree with you on this. I don't think that anybody is responsible for a disease, BUT they ARE responsible for how they have treated each other. Although we can't look behind the scenes I feel for Lindsey and I really hope that the Rumours 5 get together (not necessarily as a band) over this again.
Why? They are magic together. Sure: they do have a lot of bad habits in dealing with each other but underneath it all I always felt that they are still bound together by fate.

But apart from that I only hope that Lindsey gets well soon, is surrounded by love and gets to enjoy his life as he pleases again.

[button-lip]

If Lindsey died, how could she live with herself? Look at what she put him through.

Oh, she will. I think she isn’t herself anymore, if you know what I mean. Her yes people is running her life. So, let’s see if she cares this time.

[button-lip]

I think both Stevie and Mick will say something at the next concert, the hypocrisy of which will make me even madder.

I really hope they leave that duty to Christine. They don’t need to antagonize what’s left of their fans anymore.

[sue]

I know this maybe should be in Present Band forum...but it’s approp here..
as it involves the five.

“Landslide”.dedication tonight ....wonder if she’ll mention Lindsey.
Maybe Mick will include Lindsey in his bit at the end.

Bad form if they don’t, but hypocritical if they do.

[SteveMacD]

I know this maybe should be in Present Band forum...but it’s approp here..
as it involves the five.

“Landslide”.dedication tonight ....wonder if she’ll mention Lindsey.
Maybe Mick will include Lindsey in his bit at the end.

Bad form if they don’t, but hypocritical if they do.

It’ll be Christine on “All Over Again.”

[lennonfan]

so a window drops in my house and needs repaired, then a gust of wind comes up and blows siding off the second story, now I'm getting upset and the spouse says 'what's gonna be number 3?' ...and here we are.

Deepest respect to Lindsey for all his hard work and hoping he can mend.
I can't imagine that he won't have to slow down from here on out after that but we all have to sometime. If he had been with the Mac this could have happened during a performance and time to get him to hospital could have been hampered. ...so maybe things do work out for a reason...

...mind you that's still no excuse for how they treated him, I'm still having trouble listening to them because this is all still too fresh in my mind.

I'm not going to blame them but ditching him was WORST. MOVE. EVER.

[ViscountViktor]

What a ****ty year for Lindsey. Feel sorry for him.

They better mention him at the gig.

[Macfan4life]

I think both Stevie and Mick will say something at the next concert, the hypocrisy of which will make me even madder.
Oh please no. Do you think they would have enough sense not to go there?
What next...Landslide dedication with Lindsey's photo in the background.

You are on dangerous grounds Mr Spicoli

[singertobe]

Bull! Everyone knows she got him kicked out of the band that he made famous for “smirking” at her. One of the most juvenile, self-centered reasons ever. She gave the band an ultimatum about a man who was almost 70 years and who had been a band mate for decades. She put him and his family through hell and a lawsuit. Totally selfish. She is a taker. He is a giver. He gave the band his best work and got kicked out by the petty princess. If he would of died, she would somehow make his death all about her pain. She would be the victim, someway, somehow.

I remember in an interview, Stevie said that if either of them ever ended up in a life threatening situation and was in the hospital the other would be on their way to see them. Time to find out if that's true...

[button-lip]

I remember in an interview, Stevie said that if either of them ever ended up in a life threatening situation and was in the hospital the other would be on their way to see them. Time to find out if that's true...

She said so many things about Lindsey in the past and half of them were a lie, so why would be different this time? Because he almost died? She knew it could happen given his family history when she fired him, and that didn’t stop her.

[cbBen]

I remember in an interview, Stevie said that if either of them ever ended up in a life threatening situation and was in the hospital the other would be on their way to see them. Time to find out if that's true...

The situation wasn't life threatening by the time she found out about it. That said, if Lindsey and Kristen are agreeable, it would be nice for her to go see him after this leg of the tour.

[bombaysaffires]

then again, if they're really so far gone, they may choose to tell themselves he brought it all on himself -- making them fire him, having the heart issue etc. Denial and ego are a powerful combination.

[bombaysaffires]

did they acknowledge Bob W in any way onstage (or otherwise) when he DIED?
I'm not holding my breath they'll say anything.... open that whole can of worms as to why the hell he's not onstage with them....

As for Stevie getting to see LB, she's gonna have to go through Kristen first, and right about now I don't see that happening anytime soon.....

If any of them have any class they'd have sent flowers. Very showbiz and a very easy way to let someone know you are thinking about them. A feud doesn't mean you have to be a cold-hearted a$$hole..... I remember Joan Rivers talking about how she and Johnny Carson never spoke after she got her own show (even though he had no intention of her ever taking over his show) but then his son died, she sent him flowers because a stupid business disagreement pales in comparison to life and death. He never acknowledged it, and never sent flowers or any acknowledgement when her husband died. Some people are just flaming d*cks. Just because FM was in a nasty lawsuit doesn't mean they couldn't have a shred of human decency left in them.....but then again, it's Fleetwood Mac.

[elle]

I believe there is good stress and bad stress and that the physical requirements of touring with the Big Machine is distinct from the emotions involved in being kicked out of the band and feeling anger, hurt, betrayal and depression. I don’t think the ouster was a boon to his health.

I know about his history. After all, Stevie is the one who boasted she handed the phone to him when he got the news that his father died. I think his brother’s death softened estranged relations with the band and caused him to appear at the end of the BTM tour. Yes, this fear has long been lurking. This is a family health problem, but like any other physical element it can be triggered and it was.

i hope this wakes the band up. we have all been incredibly lucky he made it through. they got the second chance. i hope they take it and don't blow it.

[Macfan4life]

i hope this wakes the band up. we have all been incredibly lucky he made it through. they got the second chance. i hope they take it and don't blow it.
Are you hoping Lindsey rejoins Fleetwood Mac?" :eek:

"I hope THEY take it and don't blow it" (second chances)???

[elle]

Are you hoping Lindsey rejoins Fleetwood Mac?" :eek:
no. we don't even know whether he'll tour in any capacity ever again, even if he fully recuperates.

"I hope THEY take it and don't blow it" (second chances)???
i'm talking on a personal level. reversing their public PR trashing of him and stop minimizing what he did for the band would be a good first step.

i hope each of the 4 says something at their next show. before they launch into SHN would be an opportunity for Mick to set the tone. this is their first chance. and make it real, and make it about him, not about themselves.

then again, these people had so many wake up calls in the last few years, and they blew past all of them and did exactly the opposite from what one would expect. i still hope they make an honest try, because they obviously hurt him deeply.

[Storms123]

no. we don't even know whether he'll tour in any capacity ever again, even if he fully recuperates.


i'm talking on a personal level. reversing their public PR trashing of him and stop minimizing what he did for the band would be a good first step.

i hope each of the 4 says something at their next show. before they launch into SHN would be an opportunity for Mick to set the tone. this is their first chance. and make it real, and make it about him, not about themselves.

then again, these people had so many wake up calls in the last few years, and they blew past all of them and did exactly the opposite from what one would expect. i still hope they make an honest try, because they obviously hurt him deeply.


Is it shocking for me to think Neil could actually do it before any of the remaining 4 do it? It would be so disingenuous for them to say something yet sort of appalling if they don’t

[elle]

any of the remaining 4 do it? It would be so disingenuous for them to say something yet sort of appalling if they don’t

i don't think it would be disingenuous. it could go either way - depends what they feel and what they say.

the social media message their PR put out which was copy / paste signed as "the band" was disingenuous. they can do better, and i hope they do.

[sue]

I think Lindsey being taken so ill, will be an end to any thought of Rumours 5
ever being together again.
What this wake up call will do is make him realise life is so so short.

Even when he recovers fully, surely he won’t want to spend time touring with a bunch of t*****s that turned their backs on him.

But time is a great healer, so who knows.

[Storms123]

i don't think it would be disingenuous. it could go either way - depends what they feel and what they say.

the social media message their PR put out which was copy / paste signed as "the band" was disingenuous. they can do better, and i hope they do.

Fair point and and yes, very dependent on what they say. Anything along the lines of “good friend”....utterly disingenuous. The statement when they announced he was out of the band was despicable. Nothing shocks me with them any longer

[secondhandchain]

The discussions they must be having right now..... WE KNOW Stevie doesn't want to say anything, but feels they may have to or they will look bad. It's not about actually feeling anything for LB, because the woman is a bitter old shell of herself. Her only pleasure in life now is the applause for her fans. Like an aging Hollywood actress walking around the malls to be recognized, that's what she has become.

[Macfan4life]

Its a very difficult situation. If Stevie says something a few hard core Mac fans could boo her. If they don't say something it makes them look cold and uncaring (really how they are).
But lets not forget. Lindsey was thrown out of the band because one member did not like the way he stood behind her at an awards show. Stupid YES but the worst part is the rest of the band gave the green light to let her get her way.

I may be in the minority but I actually think its worse if they say something than to not say something. Their. Words. Mean. Nothing. I mean really, you are going to feel better if Stevie dedicates Landslide to him when she stated she would never be on the same stage as him again.

I am sure (or at least hope) each band member called him personally. But I would be surprised either way for them to say something. IMHO its worse if they do say something pretending to care when they treated him like discarded and replaceable trash. Its appalling they are doing his songs live now. So why would they stop now?

[secondhandchain]

Totally DISGUSTING that they are going to playing some of his songs tonight while he lay sick in bed. They all make me sick now. I'm sure Stevie is in her glory, that's how little I think of her now.

[SteveMacD]

Is it shocking for me to think Neil could actually do it before any of the remaining 4 do it? It would be so disingenuous for them to say something yet sort of appalling if they don’t

I understand what you’re saying, although it really wouldn’t surprise me. Neil seems to be a class act. That said, my money is on Christine making the first public comment.

[secret love]

did they acknowledge Bob W in any way onstage (or otherwise) when he DIED?
I'm not holding my breath they'll say anything.... open that whole can of worms as to why the hell he's not onstage with them....

As for Stevie getting to see LB, she's gonna have to go through Kristen first, and right about now I don't see that happening anytime soon.....

If any of them have any class they'd have sent flowers. Very showbiz and a very easy way to let someone know you are thinking about them. A feud doesn't mean you have to be a cold-hearted a$$hole..... I remember Joan Rivers talking about how she and Johnny Carson never spoke after she got her own show (even though he had no intention of her ever taking over his show) but then his son died, she sent him flowers because a stupid business disagreement pales in comparison to life and death. He never acknowledged it, and never sent flowers or any acknowledgement when her husband died. Some people are just flaming d*cks. Just because FM was in a nasty lawsuit doesn't mean they couldn't have a shred of human decency left in them.....but then again, it's Fleetwood Mac.

I think their relationship with Bob Welch when he died in 2012 was pretty much non-existent. He had not been in the band for 35 years and they had a public disagreement over Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Lindsey, while not currently involved in the band, was involved as recently as 2018. LAST YEAR. His songs feature heavily on the band's most recent release, an anthology of greatest hits, many of which are his. And he was inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and performed at the induction.

There is, believe it or not, less love lost with Lindsey than there was with Bob.

They will say something.

If they don't, I'm going to smoke a cigarette...or a cigar. And enjoy it.

[SteveMacD]

because the woman is a bitter old shell of herself.

LOL. You calling someone else “bitter.” Pot. Kettle. Black.

They all make me sick now.

As opposed to any other time in the past year? Now put on your MAGA and read Drudge.

[secondhandchain]

LOL. You calling someone else “bitter.” Pot. Kettle. Black.



As opposed to any other time in the past year? Now put on your MAGA and read Drudge.

First of all I loathe the orange one, second of all I have every right to be disgusted with this band the way they have behaved the past year, and SN the past few years. Get used to it.

[secret love]

First of all I loathe the orange one, second of all I have every right to be disgusted with this band the way they have behaved the past year, and SN the past few years. Get used to it.
Just like any other human, you have a right to feel how you are feeling at any particular time.

But why would you want to feel disgusted? Why would you want to hate?

[Storms123]

I understand what you’re saying, although it really wouldn’t surprise me. Neil seems to be a class act. That said, my money is on Christine making the first public comment.

Christine definitely makes the most sense. I agree with you, Neil does seem like a standup guy. I said Neil before, because he’s actually singing LBs songs. If it’s not Christine, I’d actually rather have it be Stevie over Mick. We shall see soon enough I guess!

[SteveMacD]

First of all I loathe the orange one
I call BS. I think you’re part of the Alex Jones fan club.

[button-lip]

The discussions they must be having right now..... WE KNOW Stevie doesn't want to say anything, but feels they may have to or they will look bad. It's not about actually feeling anything for LB, because the woman is a bitter old shell of herself. Her only pleasure in life now is the applause for her fans. Like an aging Hollywood actress walking around the malls to be recognized, that's what she has become.

Well, she seemed really pleased with herself and in all her glory at the Dallas show dancing with NF and strumming MF’s guitar. It’s impossible they found out yesterday like the rest of us. They already knew at the Dallas show but couldn’t say anything. Stevie looks nothing but distressed during Landslide, Gypsy, or even GDW.

I very much prefer if they say nothing at all tonight. And it’s not the newbies’ place to say anything either. Please! They don’t even know the guy that well!

[elle]

I'm also remembering this exchange on CBS about his ouster from the band:

Anthony Mason (interviewer): do you feel like you've been kicked out of the family?

LB: I do, but I don't feel that... it was something that was my doing.

Interviewer: But that's gotta hurt

LB: It hurt for a while. I did walk around for a few months with a very visceral reaction to that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wvfj0zqBDo&t=402s

yeah. they broke him. they broke his heart. while i definitely didn't expect this, now when it happened, it seems completely logical, added on top of his family history.

i have to believe that this is a wake up call to reach out and that they already did privately. and that they'll try to fix the damage they did publicly too and acknowledge his huge contributions to where they are today.


Neil Finn addressing this would be nice, if he was on his own tour. him being the one addressing it in Fleetwood Mac would be insulting.

[secondhandchain]

I call BS. I think you’re part of the Alex Jones fan club.

I do love the AJ impersonator that calls into the Howard Stern show.

[SteveMacD]

And it’s not the newbies’ place to say anything either. Please! They don’t even know the guy that well!
Mike knew him well enough that it wouldn’t be out of line.

[Storms123]

Well, she seemed really pleased with herself and in all her glory at the Dallas show dancing with NF and strumming MF’s guitar. It’s impossible they found out yesterday like the rest of us. They already knew at the Dallas show but couldn’t say anything. Stevie looks nothing but distressed during Landslide, Gypsy, or even GDW.

I very much prefer if they say nothing at all tonight. And it’s not the newbies’ place to say anything either. Please! They don’t even know the guy that well!

I am really so curious as to when they all found out. I hardly think Kristen gave them a call. Perhaps Steve, the drum tech who is married to Cory Buckingham?

[SteveMacD]

I am really so curious as to when they all found out. I hardly think Kristen gave them a call. Perhaps Steve, the drum tech who is married to Cory Buckingham?

Maybe. Lots of possibilities. Brett, Jimmy, Federico, management.

[elle]

I am really so curious as to when they all found out. I hardly think Kristen gave them a call. Perhaps Steve, the drum tech who is married to Cory Buckingham?

Maybe. Lots of possibilities. Brett, Jimmy, Federico, management.

yup and many others. lots of possibilities. the knew. it's a family.

[elle]

Mike knew him well enough that it wouldn’t be out of line.

it wouldn't at his own show.

but def out of line at FM show where there are people who have been his family, for better or worse, for the last 50 years. they need to address it first, and again - i really hope they do, and the right way.

at least they kept it quiet for a week. so that's promising.

[wilsonmac]

Mike knew him well enough that it wouldn’t be out of line.

Mike knows him pretty well. So does Benmont, and he commented on Lindseys Instagram page yesterday. I always find that part of this arrangement to be interesting, but i guess money talks. Petty, Campbell, and Lindsey were friends and recorded many times together( She’s the One Soundtrack, Johnny Cash album, the Last DJ). I think its interesting that Tom mentions that the only person he ever asked to join the Heartbreakers was Lindsey (GQ article).

[SteveMacD]

I think its interesting that Tom mentions that the only person he ever asked to join the Heartbreakers was Lindsey (GQ article).

I bet that went over like a lead balloon with a certain singer…

[wilsonmac]

I bet that went over like a lead balloon with a certain singer…

Makes me laugh every time I think about it.

[Jondalar]

If Lindsey would have died, would Kristen let them come to funeral or would she smack Stevie in the face?

[bombaysaffires]

Is it shocking for me to think Neil could actually do it before any of the remaining 4 do it? It would be so disingenuous for them to say something yet sort of appalling if they don’t

"Excuse me while I step over LB's body to sing one of his biggest songs for you"

[bombaysaffires]

I am really so curious as to when they all found out. I hardly think Kristen gave them a call. Perhaps Steve, the drum tech who is married to Cory Buckingham?

Maybe. Lots of possibilities. Brett, Jimmy, Federico, management.

yup and many others. lots of possibilities. the knew. it's a family.

someone (elle?) posted a screenshot of Jimmy Paxson's social media in the LB forum in which he says he's known for several days but couldn't say anything until LB's camp/family made a formal statement.

So if he knew, likely Brett knew, and Neale, etc. So no way that the FM band members and crew wouldn't have known.

[wilsonmac]

https://twitter.com/theryanadams/status/1094406222294409217?s=21
(https://twitter.com/theryanadams/status/1094406222294409217?s=21)
Ryan Adams just posted on twitter a shout out to Lindsey. Prob the greatest songwriter of my generation. These are the people who quietly respect him.

Get well Lindsey.

[secondhandchain]

You just know they knew when they did their show on thursday night. Supposedly witch was over the top dancing around happy that night.

[secret love]

You just know they knew when they did their show on thursday night. Supposedly witch was over the top dancing around happy that night.
She's buying a new pair of tap shoes to dance on his grave.
And if against all odds she dies first, he's going to sing Landslide at a solo show and dedicate it to her.

[BombaySapphire3]

If Lindsey would have died, would Kristen let them come to funeral or would she smack Stevie in the face?

Wait a minute don't you mean 'would of died"?:shrug:

[Jondalar]

You just know they knew when they did their show on thursday night. Supposedly witch was over the top dancing around happy that night.

I bet she was super happy!

[secret love]

I bet she was super happy!
Hm, so a singer/performer was "dancing" and appeared "super happy" in front of a crowd at a concert.
I would have demanded a refund. I prefer my performers morose, miserable and standing still the entire performance.

[BombaySapphire3]

What times we live in when good people suffer and the wicked prosper.

[secondhandchain]

Hm, so a singer/performer was "dancing" and appeared "super happy" in front of a crowd at a concert.
I would have demanded a refund. I prefer my performers morose, miserable and standing still the entire performance.

NO I'm talking even MORE the usual. Like GIDDY.

[secret love]

NO I'm talking even MORE the usual. Like GIDDY.

I can't help but think you are more happy to have something to use against Stevie Nicks than you are concerned to have heard about Lindsey Buckingham's open heart surgery.

[secret love]

What times we live in when good people suffer and the wicked prosper.

We all eventually suffer heart failure or brain death. Her time will come. His hasn't yet. He's still alive, remember. And looks very happy in the photo Kristen shared. I think he feels enormous gratitude for his continued life, not rage towards his former bandmates.

[secondhandchain]

We all eventually suffer heart failure or brain death. Her time will come. His hasn't yet. He's still alive, remember. And looks very happy in the photo Kristen shared. I think he feels enormous gratitude for his continued life, not rage towards his former bandmates.

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.

[button-lip]

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.

Definitely. Please, make it all about Stevie.

[secret love]

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.
I don't even name Stevie in the quote you took from me. She is not my concern. I don't relate to Lindsey Buckingham in the same way I do to a family member. It is hard to feel anything sincere apart from hope that his musical talents will continue as this is the only thing I know or enjoy about him. He's a celebrity to me. I don't know Lindsey the man. Ditto all this for Stevie if something were to happen to her.

[SteveMacD]

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.

Seems like you’re disappointed LB pulled through because it robbed you the opportunity to raise the bitterness past eleven.

[button-lip]

Christine definitely makes the most sense. I agree with you, Neil does seem like a standup guy. I said Neil before, because he’s actually singing LBs songs. If it’s not Christine, I’d actually rather have it be Stevie over Mick. We shall see soon enough I guess!

Mick “wished him well on his recovery” at the end of the show when half of the people had already left. :rolleyes:

[Jondalar]

Mick “wished him well on his recovery” at the end of the show when half of the people had already left. :rolleyes:

How big of him?

[secondhandchain]

How big of him?

Of course he waited and probably only the clean up crew heard it. Do we have any more reports on the show tonight? Was Goat gloating?

[elle]

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/08/ex-fleetwood-mac-singer-guitarist-lindsey-buckingham-undergoes-heart-surgery-suffers-damage-to-vocal-cord/

Ex-Fleetwood Mac star Lindsey Buckingham’s vocal cords damaged during heart surgery
His wife shares his progress with post to his Instagram account

Lindsey Buckingham performs at the Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco, Calif., on Tuesday, Oct. 9, 2018. (Nhat V. Meyer/Bay Area News Group)
By CICERO ESTRELLA | [email protected] | Bay Area News Group
PUBLISHED: February 8, 2019 at 4:44 pm | UPDATED: February 9, 2019 at 4:58 am
Lindsey Buckingham is back home recuperating from open heart surgery, but the emergency procedure from last week left the former Fleetwood Mac singer and guitarist with a damaged vocal cord.

Buckingham’s wife, Kristen, on Friday shared the news of her husband’s recovery from his Instagram account. She let his fans know that the 69-year-old was doing well, but the extent of the damage to his vocal cord was still unknown.


“I am sad to say that late last week Lindsey underwent emergency open heart surgery. He is now recuperating at home and each day he is stronger than the last,” Kristen Buckingham wrote. “While he and his heart are doing well, the surgery resulted in vocal cord damage. While it is unclear if this damage is permanent, we are hopeful it is not.”


Buckingham, Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie made up the trio of lead vocalists from the most popular and commercially successful iteration of Fleetwood Mac. He sang lead on such hits as “Go Your Own Way” and “Big Love.”

He was an integral part of the band starting in 1975, but the other four members fired him last year, reportedly at the insistence of Nicks.


“Our relationship has always been volatile,” Nicks, who dated Buckingham in the ’70s, told Rolling Stone. “We were never married, but we might as well have been. Some couples get divorced after 40 years. They break their kids’ hearts and destroy everyone around them because it’s just hard. This is sad for me, but I want the next 10 years of my life to be really fun and happy. I want to get up every day and dance around my apartment and smile and say, ‘Thank God for this amazing life.'”

Buckingham sued his former bandmates over his dismissal, but he revealed in December that the two sides had settled out of court.

“This past year has been a very stressful and difficult year for our family to say the least,” Kristen Buckingham continued in her IG post. “But despite all this, our gratitude for life trumps all obstacles we have faced at this moment. We feel so fortunate he’s alive. As does he.”

She added that Buckingham’s family has had a history of heart issues, and that he had lost both his father and brother to heart-related illnesses.

He looks forward to recovery and putting this behind him,” wrote Kristen Buckingham. “Needless to say, all touring and shows currently scheduled have been put on pause for the moment as he gathers the strength to heal completely.

Following their split, Fleetwood Mac added former Crowded House singer/guitarist Neil Finn and ex-Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell to their roster and went on tour. Our reviewer found the Buckingham-less band lacking, to say the least. Buckingham also hit the road as a solo artist.

[HomerMcvie]

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.

THANK YOU.

IMO, definitely a Goat Head.

[HomerMcvie]

Mick “wished him well on his recovery” at the end of the show when half of the people had already left. :rolleyes:

Dick Fleetwood is WORSE than $tevie. He's a f*cking scumbag!

The only thought he ever has, IMO, is "where's my next scheme dough coming from?". What a LOSER he is.

[HomerMcvie]

Of course he waited and probably only the clean up crew heard it. Do we have any more reports on the show tonight? Was Goat gloating?
The only thing I've seen, from a former? Ledgie, was this, posted a couple hours ago, on Facebook. I'm not including their name. Even though we're fb friends, it's been quite a while since they posted here, so I don't even remember their Ledge name.
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"At the beginning of GYOW Neil said, “Let’s sing this for Lindsey, get well!” I didn’t get this on video tho. Then at the end Mick said a bit and I got it so I’ll post it later. Stevie was pretty quiet most of the night.
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And HOW F*CKING RUDE for them to have Neil say it. Like the a$$holes that have known him for 43 years couldn't say it. #SCUMBAGS

[iamnotafraid]

Hate can be pretty destructive, so I'm wondering how
much longer you guys and gals plan on carrying it around?

Thankfully our guy is recovering.

[Netter75]

Was Goat gloating?

I can't tell if you're kidding or not. If you're not, I sincerely hope you're less bitter in reality than on this site.

Hope Lindsey recovers well and this puts things into perspective for Stevie and Mick. Between him and John it's sad getting reminders that all five of these guys are potentially not gonna be with us that much longer :/

[sue]

Mick “wished him well on his recovery” at the end of the show when half of the people had already left. :rolleyes:


I know it’s a case of..damned if they didn’t, damned if they did...but they should have said something, some kind word of thought for their friend if 40 odd years.

I think shame has a lot to do with it, I think they are starting to be ashamed of their ****e actions.
Pity it has taken such a drastic thing to make them feel ashamed, publicly.

[He's So Unusual]

I guess Lindsey's old rock star lifestyle has finally caught up with him. His temper tantrums and fondness for violence must have also put a big strain on his heart.

[button-lip]

I know it’s a case of..damned if they didn’t, damned if they did...but they should have said something, some kind word of thought for their friend if 40 odd years.

I think shame has a lot to do with it, I think they are starting to be ashamed of their ****e actions.
Pity it has taken such a drastic thing to make them feel ashamed, publicly.

Oh, I agree it was better to say something that to pretend nothing happened, but Stevie should have been the first to say something. They all should have said something, even John, but Stevie, the lead voice on the band, just says nothing?

Even NF that probably doesn't even know Lindsey had the decency to say something and pay tribute to his songs.

Stevie's silence only reinforces the idea that it was her idea to fire him. She has to know something like this might happen.

I'm sorry but I care about him and I don't know if wanting to mend things with her is such a good idea when she seems to want the opposite. :distress::distress::distress:

[button-lip]

I guess Lindsey's old rock star lifestyle has finally caught up with him. His temper tantrums and fondness for violence must have also put a big strain on his heart.

Yeah, I'm sure that things that happened 30 years ago are coming NOW to put a strain on his heart.

Of course the fact that Stevie fired him last year has nothing to do with it.

[Steviegirl]

Mick “wished him well on his recovery” at the end of the show when half of the people had already left. :rolleyes:

Lord have mercy. :distress:

[luminol]

Good of Neil to say something. I'm sure he felt compelled since he's singing Lindsey's songs this tour; it's the only decent thing to do. Good on him. (I've felt that Mike and Neil both are innocent bystanders of this drama and not to blame for this crap, and now I have added respect for Neil. Glad he spoke up.)

Mick saying something at the end after half the crowd was gone?.... not surprising. It's absolutely on brand for him... wishy washy, half-hearted attempt to save some face, gets to check off a box for "mentioning Lindsey at the show" without having to face the full crowd's reaction... all right on brand.

[MikeInNV]

Seems like you are more worried about defending goats honor then feeling glad LB is ok.

And you're too busy trashing Stevie in this and every thread to be glad Lindsey is okay. If anyone is making things all about Stevie....

:rolleyes:

[jmn3]

Good of Neil to say something. I'm sure he felt compelled since he's singing Lindsey's songs this tour; it's the only decent thing to do. Good on him. (I've felt that Mike and Neil both are innocent bystanders of this drama and not to blame for this crap, and now I have added respect for Neil. Glad he spoke up.)

Mick saying something at the end after half the crowd was gone?.... not surprising. It's absolutely on brand for him... wishy washy, half-hearted attempt to save some face, gets to check off a box for "mentioning Lindsey at the show" without having to face the full crowd's reaction... all right on brand.

These people are more and more appalling as time goes on. Mick doing just about exactly what one would expect of him, the bare minimum (but like you said, he can check the box off) - POS. And the other two not saying anything is equally appalling and gross.

As for Neil saying something, I'm with you - good on him. These guys took an opportunity to make some solid coin as hired hands. I don't blame them. I don't like the current band and find the fact that Neil is singing a bunch of Lindsey's songs to just be dumb, but he's doing what he is being paid to do. He clearly felt compelled to say something out of respect for Lindsey's contributions and I respect him for doing that.

[Storms123]

These people are more and more appalling as time goes on. Mick doing just about exactly what one would expect of him, the bare minimum (but like you said, he can check the box off) - POS. And the other two not saying anything is equally appalling and gross.

As for Neil saying something, I'm with you - good on him. These guys took an opportunity to make some solid coin as hired hands. I don't blame them. I don't like the current band and find the fact that Neil is singing a bunch of Lindsey's songs to just be dumb, but he's doing what he is being paid to do. He clearly felt compelled to say something out of respect for Lindsey's contributions and I respect him for doing that.

I agree with this. Neil seems like a classy guy. I don't like what went down with the band, but Neil and Mike have nothing to do with it.
As for Mick saying something, he did the bare minimum, in between telling everyone to be kind to one another and "The Mac is Back" Poetic or what? He is a charlatan

[vivfox]

Hate can be pretty destructive, so I'm wondering how
much longer you guys and gals plan on carrying it around?

Thankfully our guy is recovering.


At this point Stevie could have fired the tech guy and it would give them one more excuse to vent their anger and frustrations. Heck, maybe their fave tv show is in hiatus too long and they'll take it out on Stevie and Mick too.:lol:

[cbBen]

At this point Stevie could have fired the tech guy and it would give them one more excuse to vent their anger and frustrations.

SHE SHOULD NOT BE FIRING TECH PERSONNEL ON HER OWN ACCORD. SHE IS NOT THE BOSS OF THIS BAND AND EVEN SAID SO HERSELF!

[sodascouts]

As for Neil saying something, I'm with you - good on him. These guys took an opportunity to make some solid coin as hired hands. I don't blame them. I don't like the current band and find the fact that Neil is singing a bunch of Lindsey's songs to just be dumb, but he's doing what he is being paid to do. He clearly felt compelled to say something out of respect for Lindsey's contributions and I respect him for doing that.

I appreciate Neil saying something, and I'm disgusted that Stevie and Chris said nothing by contrast. I almost wonder if Mick's post-show comment was a result of Neil's, because he realized how bad it made the rest of them look. Easy enough to throw a "wish Lindsey well" in there at the last minute to save face.

I don't think Neil and Mike are blameless, though - especially Mike, who in all probability knew about it before Lindsey. Indeed, I believe his willingness to replace Lindsey was part of the reason Stevie wanted Lindsey out so badly. She wanted a Heartbreaker in her band. Who knows, perhaps if Mike had said he wasn't interested, she would not have been so quick to get rid of a key member of the band right before a tour. If that's true, we can thank Mike for enabling the end of the Rumours 5.

As for Neil... he could've said "no." He could've said "Well, I just can't."

I don't think he's a bad guy. I respect him for what he said last night. I just don't think he's blameless when it comes to the embarrassment that is the current incarnation of Fleetwood Mac.

ETA: I wonder if Christine gave the same speech before "All Over Again" last night where she says the song is about the band "surviving change" ie firing Lindsey? Let's hope they had enough heart to leave that off or modify the wording for one night at least.

[elle]

respect to Neil for saying the right thing at the right time and obviously being a decent guy. i'm happy he did that and good for him. and it just makes the stark contrast and puts in perspective the other 4.

i think what Mick said was sincere and ok. he should have said much more, and he should have said it at the point in the show when most of the people weren't already on their way out. but what he did say was ok.

Christine and Stevie - no comment.

John never says anything.

[michelej1]

Christine and Stevie - no comment.



If this had happened to one of their dogs, though ... lo the pain.

[michelej1]

Hate can be pretty destructive, so I'm wondering how
much longer you guys and gals plan on carrying it around?

Thankfully our guy is recovering.

Yep, hate can be destructive. Good thing there’s a fan forum where people can engage in harmless chat, vent and discuss these things and that no one’s out in “the real world” going postal.

[button-lip]

At this point Stevie could have fired the tech guy and it would give them one more excuse to vent their anger and frustrations. Heck, maybe their fave tv show is in hiatus too long and they'll take it out on Stevie and Mick too.:lol:

I’m sure she fired a lot of tech guys in her diva life. But tech guys weren’t part of the Rumours 5. :rolleyes:

[Street_Dreamer]

https://i.ibb.co/0mXSH2n/Untitled.png

[button-lip]

I appreciate Neil saying something, and I'm disgusted that Stevie and Chris said nothing by contrast. I almost wonder if Mick's post-show comment was a result of Neil's, because he realized how bad it made the rest of them look. Easy enough to throw a "wish Lindsey well" in there at the last minute to save face.

I don't think Neil and Mike are blameless, though - especially Mike, who in all probability knew about it before Lindsey. Indeed, I believe his willingness to replace Lindsey was part of the reason Stevie wanted Lindsey out so badly. She wanted a Heartbreaker in her band. Who knows, perhaps if Mike had said he wasn't interested, she would not have been so quick to get rid of a key member of the band right before a tour. If that's true, we can thank Mike for enabling the end of the Rumours 5.

As for Neil... he could've said "no." He could've said "Well, I just can't."

I don't think he's a bad guy. I respect him for what he said last night. I just don't think he's blameless when it comes to the embarrassment that is the current incarnation of Fleetwood Mac.

ETA: I wonder if Christine gave the same speech before "All Over Again" last night where she says the song is about the band "surviving change" ie firing Lindsey? Let's hope they had enough heart to leave that off or modify the wording for one night at least.


Your post summarizes everything I feel right now. I never thought about Mick talking at the end only because Mick did it first. Could be.

I always blame Mike together with the rest of the band. He probably knew even before Lindsey that he was being fired and he said ok. Same with NF. He could just walk away after he found out the truth but chose to stay.

Christine’s speech before “All Over Again” was exactly the same. Shameful.

[BombaySapphire3]

Your post summarizes everything I feel right now. I never thought about Mick talking at the end only because Mick did it first. Could be.

I always blame Mike together with the rest of the band. He probably knew even before Lindsey that he was being fired and he said ok. Same with NF. He could just walk away after he found out the truth but chose to stay.

Christine’s speech before “All Over Again” was exactly the same. Shameful.

It is shameful and tacky beyond words for two women that were once considered the classiest in rock. I concur about sodascouts post too. I don't always agree with her but she nailed it this time.

[elle]

Yep, hate can be destructive. Good thing there’s a fan forum where people can engage in harmless chat, vent and discuss these things and that no one’s out in “the real world” going postal.

:thumbsup:

see whether you guys can play this - it's a video by someone who went yesterday and was nice to share in our FB group - it's Mick's speech at the end of the show. in case anyone's interested.

https://www.facebook.com/APerfectLie226/videos/10212532214650451/

[bombaysaffires]

:thumbsup:

see whether you guys can play this - it's a video by someone who went yesterday and was nice to share in our FB group - it's Mick's speech at the end of the show. in case anyone's interested.

https://www.facebook.com/APerfectLie226/videos/10212532214650451/

it played fine.

what he said was fine, if a bit perfunctory.

Shame the rest of the band didn't stick around onstage whilst he said it. Cold. (to me anyway).

Good on Neil for at least having the class to say something *during* the show.

I'm sure Stevie and her people don't want her anywhere near any mention of him because they want to protect her from any negative questions or boos or whatever. Can't upset the Queen. Remember, from the earliest days of the band, the band members can never be blamed for ANYTHING even when they deserve it.

[FuzzyPlum]

https://i.ibb.co/0mXSH2n/Untitled.png

They've now got more in common other than just being ex-Fleetwood Mac members.

[button-lip]

It is shameful and tacky beyond words for two women that were once considered the classiest in rock. I concur about sodascouts post too. I don't always agree with her but she nailed it this time.

And Stevie dedicated the show to someone in the audience ….. Christopher Cross. Because, you know, they have known each other for more than 50 years….

[HomerMcvie]

And Stevie dedicated the show to someone in the audience ….. Christopher Cross. Because, you know, they have known each other for more than 50 years….

You know I hate her, but did you know that Christopher Cross was the opening act on the Tusk Tour?

[sodascouts]

:thumbsup:

see whether you guys can play this - it's a video by someone who went yesterday and was nice to share in our FB group - it's Mick's speech at the end of the show. in case anyone's interested.

https://www.facebook.com/APerfectLie226/videos/10212532214650451/

Thanks for posting that.

It did sound heartfelt...

....but I thought it was telling that he waited until Stevie, Christine, etc. had left the stage before he made the statement.

[Macfan4life]

Really?
If Stevie dedicated Landslide to Lindsey, it would have been the most superficial dedication ever. She blackmailed the band that she would NEVER appear on the same stage with Lindsey again. As bad as she is, she does have shame. If she said something, she would have no shame.

Stevie: Its fine that you say something Mick, but make sure I am off the stage and in my dressing room so I cant hear it.
Mick: You got it Stevie.

Mick on stage: Starts saying goodnight and mentally counting (Mississippi 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,7,8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20). Stevie is safely backstage and Mick mentions a speedy recovery to Lindsey Buckingham. Good night all!

[BombaySapphire3]

You know I hate her, but did you know that Christopher Cross was the opening act on the Tusk Tour?

For part of the tour and before that he was their limo driver ..the things he mus have seen.:laugh:

[michelej1]

And Stevie dedicated the show to someone in the audience ….. Christopher Cross. Because, you know, they have known each other for more than 50 years….

But it’s the song’s message that is important to the dedication and Christopher Cross has much more to do with Landslide than Lindsey.

[HomerMcvie]

For part of the tour and before that he was their limo driver ..the things he mus have seen.:laugh:

Probably MOUNDS AND MOUNDS of blow. Lucky guy...:p

[sodascouts]

I hope Stevie cares. I hope her biggest concern about the prospect of Lindsey dying isn't whether or not it would necessitate a photo montage that would threaten her Petty tribute's prominence in the encore.

[Sugar Mouse]

it played fine.

what he said was fine, if a bit perfunctory.

Shame the rest of the band didn't stick around onstage whilst he said it. Cold. (to me anyway).

Good on Neil for at least having the class to say something *during* the show.

I'm sure Stevie and her people don't want her anywhere near any mention of him because they want to protect her from any negative questions or boos or whatever. Can't upset the Queen. Remember, from the earliest days of the band, the band members can never be blamed for ANYTHING even when they deserve it.

What did Neil say during the show? Is there a video of it? I can't find a mention of this anywhere.

[sue]

You know I hate her, but did you know that Christopher Cross was the opening act on the Tusk Tour?

BBC radio still plays “Arthur’s theme” and “Sailing” both big hits for Christopher Cross...

[SteveMacD]

You know I hate her, but did you know that Christopher Cross was the opening act on the Tusk Tour?

Christine also recorded with him, and he did some type of crew work, maybe for a venue, when Peter Green was in the band.

[button-lip]

But it’s the song’s message that is important to the dedication and Christopher Cross has much more to do with Landslide than Lindsey.

Yes, of course. Lindsey? Who’s Lindsey? :D

[iamnotafraid]

At this point Stevie could have fired the tech guy and it would give them one more excuse to vent their anger and frustrations. Heck, maybe their fave tv show is in hiatus too long and they'll take it out on Stevie and Mick too.:lol:

Your point has been proven by the posts that
quoted yours.

"Could" is the key word people.

[cbBen]

Your point has been proven by the posts that
quoted yours.

"Could" is the key word people.

Mine (in all caps) was in jest, in case that wasn't clear.

[button-lip]

Mine (in all caps) was in jest, in case that wasn't clear.

The message here is we should “move on” and stop blaming the dynamic duo for Lindsey’s firing and current condition because they had nothing to do with it. Poor souls.

And go back to our fave tv show. :thumbsup:

[iamnotafraid]

Yep, hate can be destructive. Good thing there’s a fan forum where people can engage in harmless chat, vent and discuss these things and that no one’s out in “the real world” going postal.

I wouldn't call it harmless. Some of it crosses the line to
bullying. And there's no telling how many Ledge members
have been run off by it.

I'm not a fan of Stevie's anymore, so it's not coming from
that point of view. I'm just wondering how a handful of people
can keep the hate going on for months? Doesn't it get tiring?

[iamnotafraid]

Mine (in all caps) was in jest, in case that wasn't clear.

Got you. All clear.

[Aisling]

This whole situation is beyond depressing. I just hope Lindsey is taking the time he needs to look after number one and isn't wasting any of his precious energy on the doings of his former bandmates. They don't deserve consideration when he should be solely focused on recovery.

I had zero illusions that anything heartfelt or meaningful would be said by the other four last night. It's nice that Neil at least tried, but it's not his responsibility. Mick probably only tacked on his well-wishes because he feared that radio silence would interfere with ticket sales. We know his mind is always on the money.

As for Christine, I continue to be thoroughly disgusting with her behavior. Despite knowing that she is probably the most conflicted, I still cannot get over how weak-willed she's become. Woman, you are 75 years old!!! Say what you want to say and be done with it. Instead, the best she'll probably offer up is another clandestine email to Lindsey, replete with a "wink wink, nudge nudge, feel free to share this publicly" post-script to alleviate her guilt.

Stevie. . .don't get me started. There's literally nothing left to say about that one. Probably best for my own mental state if I continue to pretend she doesn't even exist.

[annabellee]

Why do the current members of Fleetwood Mac need to make an audience statement about Lindsey? There's a sense of entitlement among fans that is completely unrealistic. You paid to hear the music. Listen. Or don't go. And if you choose not to go, maybe you should be silent as well. Yes, even on a discussion board.

[button-lip]

Why do the current members of Fleetwood Mac need to make an audience statement about Lindsey? There's a sense of entitlement among fans that is completely unrealistic. You paid to hear the music. Listen. Or don't go. And if you choose not to go, maybe you should be silent as well. Yes, even on a discussion board.

That’s why we don’t go to their concerts. Carry on.

[jeets2000]

Why do the current members of Fleetwood Mac need to make an audience statement about Lindsey? There's a sense of entitlement among fans that is completely unrealistic. You paid to hear the music. Listen. Or don't go. And if you choose not to go, maybe you should be silent as well. Yes, even on a discussion board.

lol, ok...

[annabellee]

That’s why we don’t go to their concerts. Carry on.

Then why comment on the concerts?

[lovethemac1]

Why do the current members of Fleetwood Mac need to make an audience statement about Lindsey? There's a sense of entitlement among fans that is completely unrealistic. You paid to hear the music. Listen. Or don't go. And if you choose not to go, maybe you should be silent as well. Yes, even on a discussion board.

Maybe what you point out, as being the correct way to behave, is a statement about the self centered nature of people in this day, that doing the right thing, and commenting on someone who was part of your working/daily family, should be ignored?? :distress: I hope I never develop that type of cruel, coldness......and that I always appreciate and treat my fellow man with more than what this band has treated it's LIVING members (past and present).

Remember, FM is the band doing a retrospective dedication to a dead personality (TP). The LEAST they could do is have some common decency, but clearly they don't, and that seems lost on you.

[lovethemac1]

Then why comment on the concerts?

Because it's a discussion board.

[annabellee]

It's a cruel world and everyone has their own truths. As fans, we aren't privy to those truths and make more assumptions as such. The attacks here are relentless - on each other and bandmembers.

[button-lip]

It's a cruel world and everyone has their own truths. As fans, we aren't privy to those truths and make more assumptions as such. The attacks here are relentless - on each other and bandmembers.

Oh, we know it’s a cruel world! :shrug:

[secondhandchain]

Stevie looks like she doesn't have a care in the world at the end of that show. I'm positive she's thrilled about he whole thing. She got him FIRED from the band he helped make iconic, the same band she wouldn't be a part of if it wasn't for him. Now he might not be able to sing anymore. She LOVES it. That's how little I think of her anymore.

[David]

BBC radio still plays “Arthur’s theme” and “Sailing” both big hits for Christopher Cross...
He was the opening act at the Hollywood Bowl in 1980. He was a snooze. Ride Like the Wind was about as interesting as he ever got, and that song detracted nothing from Sisters of the Moon that night. But Nicolette Larson also was there to sing one of the most excellent songs of the Seventies, Lotta Love. She wore a long hippie dress and played the tambourine while singing backup vocal. It was the only time I've ever seen Nicolette in concert, sadly enough.

[SteveMacD]

How do we know they haven’t had private, direct contact with Lindsey?

Furthermore, why is any public commentary on their part either required or verboten? Ultimately, it won’t change anything that’s happened, it won’t help Lindsey on his road to recovery, and it won’t change anyone’s opinion. It’s nice that Neil and Mick did, and I really wouldn’t expect anything less from either of them, but nothing changed because of it. If you were utterly disgusted by Mick before the Austin show, were you any less disgusted by Mick after the show?

[SteveMacD]

She got him FIRED from the band

How dare they FIRE a talented, popular, longstanding member of the band just so SOMEONE could bring a friend into the band???






Total dick move, 1967 Peter Green!
-Aynsley Dunbar fan

[BombaySapphire3]

How dare they FIRE a talented, popular, longstanding member of the band just so SOMEONE could bring a friend into the band???






Total dick move, 1967 Peter Green!
-Aynsley Dunbar fan

That comparison is really apples and oranges . As you know in Lindsey's case he was fired in the twilight years of a band of which he had been the sonic architect of their greatest success and one of the few if not the only monster band of their era in which all of the classic lineup members were still alive and in the band! Lindsey was to Fleetwood Mac as Brian Wilson was to the Beach Boys.

[elle]

Jana Anderson has been posting various different very nice posts about Lindsey on her social media - here's one that's been made public:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Jana Anderson 💛 <a href="https://t.co/mOcUAW9hw7">pic.twitter.com/mOcUAW9hw7</a></p>&mdash; ☽ Damn Skippy ☾ (@Jasmine_Leslie9) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jasmine_Leslie9/status/1094700336126799872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[michelej1]

I wouldn't call it harmless. Some of it crosses the line to
bullying. And there's no telling how many Ledge members
have been run off by it.

I'm not a fan of Stevie's anymore, so it's not coming from
that point of view. I'm just wondering how a handful of people
can keep the hate going on for months? Doesn't it get tiring?

The term bullying is being abused and misused lately. If the band’s fans are “harmed” by criticism of them they need to go someplace where the band is not going to be criticized. A personal attack on bandmembers is not a personal attack on a fan and those that take it as such really probably should not be online.

[cbBen]

Jana Anderson has been posting various different very nice posts about Lindsey on her social media - here's one that's been made public:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Jana Anderson 💛 <a href="https://t.co/mOcUAW9hw7">pic.twitter.com/mOcUAW9hw7</a></p>&mdash; ☽ Damn Skippy ☾ (@Jasmine_Leslie9) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jasmine_Leslie9/status/1094700336126799872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is the kind of statement it would be nice for the band to release, whether collectively or individually.

[louielouie2000]

The one thing I can’t get out of my mind is how glad I am now that Lindsey was not on this Mac tour; it could have taken his life for all we know. The whole thing almost seems like a relief now, oddly enough. As to what the rest of the band says or doesn’t say; what does it matter at this point? They clearly had no spine or moral fiber to stand up to Stevie’s temper tantrum. So why would they do the right thing now?

Above all else, I just wish for Lindsey’s full return to health, full stop.

[button-lip]

This is the kind of statement it would be nice for the band to release, whether collectively or individually.

I love how so many former members of the FM family have stepped up to support Lindsey. Richard, Billy and now Jana. :nod::nod::nod:

Not everything is lost, I guess. :D

[Hawkeye]

Jana Anderson has been posting various different very nice posts about Lindsey on her social media - here's one that's been made public:

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Wowwwww!!!! Jana Anderson basically Gave the most poignant tribute to Lindsey or maybe anyone ever! That was awesome.

Fleetwood Mac should be ashamed of their version of a tribute to Lindsey after that.

[elle]

The one thing I can’t get out of my mind is how glad I am now that Lindsey was not on this Mac tour; it could have taken his life for all we know. The whole thing almost seems like a relief now, oddly enough.

i've seen people say this a lot, and i understand it brings some relief to think how maybe it was all destiny and it all worked out for the best.

(then again i've seen it being brought up even more by huge LB haters, which is interesting.)

the thing is that, for all we know, with his family history, this could have happened 5 years ago, or 5 years from now. he's been so careful and so zen and healthy living in the last decades. without all the stress of the last year, he probably would have been happily relaxed on the FM tour, just as he was in 2013, 2014 and 2015 and there would be nothing to trigger or precipitate it. so maybe it would happen like 2 years from now, or not. but with last year's stress it all piled up to a perfect storm now. it happened almost exactly to the day, a year after that fateful phone call he got, with Azoff screaming at him that he was ousted. :distress:

that said, i feel we are all incredibly lucky he's alive and here with us, apparently managed to avoid a massive heart attack by recognizing the signs in time. and hopefully will be in better health than he was in some ways, even if not being capable to do everything he could before.

it still doesn't feel real. :distress:

[elle]

Wowwwww!!!! Jana Anderson basically Gave the most poignant tribute to Lindsey or maybe anyone ever! That was awesome.

Fleetwood Mac should be ashamed of their version of a tribute to Lindsey after that.

she had a different one, even nicer in some ways on her fb i just don't feel it's ok to share non public posts. maybe she'll make it public.

[cbBen]

she had a different one, even nicer in some ways on her fb i just don't feel it's ok to share non public posts. maybe she'll make it public.

If the Facebook post is not to a private group (as opposed to her followers), and particularly if the "Share" function is active, then it is a pubic post.

[michelej1]

i've seen people say this a lot, and i understand it brings some relief to think how maybe it was all destiny and it all worked out for the best.

(then again i've seen it being brought up even more by huge LB haters, which is interesting.)

the thing is that, for all we know, with his family history, this could have happened 5 years ago, or 5 years from now. he's been so careful and so zen and healthy living in the last decades. without all the stress of the last year, he probably would have been happily relaxed on the FM tour, just as he was in 2013, 2014 and 2015 and there would be nothing to trigger or precipitate it. so maybe it would happen like 2 years from now, or not. but with last year's stress it all piled up to a perfect storm now. it happened almost exactly to the day, a year after that fateful phone call he got, with Azoff screaming at him that he was ousted. :distress:



Obviously, I don’t know anything about Jeff Buckingham’s health. But because he’s older I used him as a barometer. He’d attend a concert and I would see a picture and I would say “oh he looks good!” And to me that meant that Lindsey would continue to be just as hearty, barring unforeseen circumstances.

[SteveMacD]

without all the stress of the last year, he probably would have been happily relaxed on the FM tour, just as he was in 2013, 2014 and 2015 and there would be nothing to trigger or precipitate it.

Except, that wasn’t his plan. He wanted to do a concurrent tour. That would have been about 65 shows in under three months, while pushing 70 and with a genetic heart condition.

[elle]

Except, that wasn’t his plan. He wanted to do a concurrent tour. That would have been about 65 shows in under three months, while pushing 70 and with a genetic heart condition.

which he's been doing all the time on his solo tours without a problem. and he was doing on his solo tour last fall.

and Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson are doing the same in their 80s.

a "genetic heart condition"? all we know he has family history of heart disease.

[Jondalar]

The band is at fault.

[sodascouts]

How do we know they haven’t had private, direct contact with Lindsey?


I certainly hope that is the case.

This is one occasion where I would be very glad if I jumped to the wrong conclusions based on outward appearances.

[secondhandchain]

NONE of us know if this heart surgery was genetic. We don't know if was due to stress, bad eating habits, or anything else, including the fact that he was fired by that witch. But I bet it didn't help.

[HomerMcvie]

Why do the current members of Fleetwood Mac need to make an audience statement about Lindsey? There's a sense of entitlement among fans that is completely unrealistic. You paid to hear the music. Listen. Or don't go. And if you choose not to go, maybe you should be silent as well. Yes, even on a discussion board.

Just a suggestion. If you only care what $tevie's fart$ smell like, you should probably $tick to the $tevie board. It's gonna be brutal, otherwise. Have a good day.

[HomerMcvie]

then it is a pubic post.

I used to make those. :D:wavey:

[AncientQueen]

which he's been doing all the time on his solo tours without a problem. and he was doing on his solo tour last fall.
And see what happend to him, then.

[button-lip]

which he's been doing all the time on his solo tours without a problem. and he was doing on his solo tour last fall.

and Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson are doing the same in their 80s.

a "genetic heart condition"? all we know he has family history of heart disease.

Next we know we have to thank Stevie and Mick for firing him and saving his life.

Thank you, Mick and Stevie!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

For all we know, he could have been HAPPILY touring with his band and NONE of this would have happened.

[Macfan4life]

Next we know we have to thank Stevie and Mick for firing him and saving his life.

Thank you, Mick and Stevie!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

For all we know, he could have been HAPPILY touring with his band and NONE of this would have happened.
Happily?
That is a S T R E T C H if I ever heard one.

All this speculation is if some of you are Lindsey's private doctor. Please stop. Its foolish and very disrespectful to Lindsey IMHO.

[cbBen]

All this speculation is if some of you are Lindsey's private doctor. Please stop. Its foolish and very disrespectful to Lindsey IMHO.

I like this guy's take:

Since we can only speculate about what would have happened in either scenario, let's be thankful Lindsey found himself in the one where we know he survived.

[button-lip]

Happily?
That is a S T R E T C H if I ever heard one.

All this speculation is if some of you are Lindsey's private doctor. Please stop. Its foolish and very disrespectful to Lindsey IMHO.

He wanted to tour with them, that's not a stretch.

And that was not the point of the post anyway.... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[jbrownsjr]

I desperately hope Stevie especially realizes life is too short not to reach out to Lindsey at this time. Even if she doesn't want to work with him again, she should care enough about him to do that. Hopefully dancing around your apartment rejoicing in your own happiness doesn't preclude caring when someone who was once "like a husband" to you almost dies.

The others should reach out to him, too... but she bears a greater responsibility because of the interweaving of their lives for the past 50+ years.

Prayers for Lindsey's recovery.

^^^^^^ This!!

[mitzo]

The band is at fault.

Yes but if he had died he probably would have risen back to life after a few days and saved pop music for all who believe in him.

[bombaysaffires]

Yes but if he had died he probably would have risen back to life after a few days and saved pop music for all who believe in him.

no that's Saint Stevie, in her flowing robes.

And the Stevie stans would have Lindsey rotting in hell for daring to point out grammatical mistakes. :shrug:

[sasja]

I am so glad he is surrounded by love and good care. I am so thankful he is still on the planet. When all our great idols start falling away like they have been of late, life gets empty and our own cliff edge so close...

But most of all I really really am SO happy for Kristen and those three young people. May they now still have 15 more years all together, at least! And Lindsey can write and produce and play and collaborate if he cannot contribute his own voice any longer. Much is still possible, now that he's still here.

Just keep him away from the toxic waste though. That, for sure!!

[lisarod]

I am so glad he is surrounded by love and good care. I am so thankful he is still on the planet. When all our great idols start falling away like they have been of late, life gets empty and our own cliff edge so close...

But most of all I really really am SO happy for Kristen and those three young people. May they now still have 15 more years all together, at least! And Lindsey can write and produce and play and collaborate if he cannot contribute his own voice any longer. Much is still possible, now that he's still here.

Just keep him away from the toxic waste though. That, for sure!!

Well said! :nod:

[elle]

I am so glad he is surrounded by love and good care. I am so thankful he is still on the planet. When all our great idols start falling away like they have been of late, life gets empty and our own cliff edge so close...

But most of all I really really am SO happy for Kristen and those three young people. May they now still have 15 more years all together, at least! And Lindsey can write and produce and play and collaborate if he cannot contribute his own voice any longer. Much is still possible, now that he's still here.

Just keep him away from the toxic waste though. That, for sure!!

beautifully stated.

#HealingVibes

[elle]

:thumbsup:

see whether you guys can play this - it's a video by someone who went yesterday and was nice to share in our FB group - it's Mick's speech at the end of the show. in case anyone's interested.

https://www.facebook.com/APerfectLie226/videos/10212532214650451/

here's the Austin show review that talks about Neil's and Mick's mentions at the end -


https://www.austin360.com/entertainmentlife/20190210/fleetwood-mac-makes-way-without-buckingham-at-erwin-center
Entertainment & Life
Fleetwood Mac makes way without Buckingham at Erwin Center

By Peter Blackstock

Posted Feb 10, 2019 at 11:02 AM
Updated Feb 10, 2019 at 11:07 AM

Last year’s trademark Fleetwood Mac drama that led up to the group’s current tour had already been plenty: the dismissal a year ago of guitarist Lindsey Buckingham, who then took legal action that was settled out of court. But the day before the tour pulled into Austin for Saturday’s Erwin Center show, word circulated that Buckingham had undergone emergency open heart surgery a week ago.

Buckingham’s reportedly recovering, though there’s concern about possibly permanent vocal cord damage. At 69, he’s the youngest of the five musicians who recorded the mid-1970s classic “Rumours” and “Fleetwood Mac,” which together sold more than 25 million copies and eventually put the band in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Recasting Fleetwood Mac without him was a challenge, though he’d been absent from the group for an extended stretch before, and Fleetwood Mac’s 52-year history is interwoven with significant lineup changes. Drummer Mick Fleetwood, bassist John McVie, keyboardist Christine McVie and singer Stevie Nicks welcomed Crowded House leader Neil Finn and Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell into the fold for this tour, which began last fall and continues through September of this year.

How’d it work? Well, mixed results. There are moments when they clearly miss Buckingham. Finn’s a fine singer and did his best on indelible Buckingham imprints such as “Second Hand News” and “Monday Morning,” though it was hard not to think of them as a Buckingham cover band in those moments. Finn couldn’t hit Lindsey’s high notes on “World Turning” (a Buckingham/Christine McVie co-write), though he seemed fully up to speed on “The Chain” and “Go Your Own Way,” definitive Fleetwood Mac numbers that bookended the main set.

Campbell, doing the heavy lifting on guitar at stage left, was solid as a rock in his role, exactly what you’d expect for a musician who’s earned universal respect from his peers and from fans. He got a well-deserved spotlight mid-set when he took the lead vocal on co-founder Peter Green’s “Oh Well,” one of several pre-Buckingham/Nicks-era nuggets from the Fleetwood Mac catalog that were wisely included in the show.

Finn got his own special moment right after, singing his Crowded House classic “Don’t Dream It’s Over” to the delight of a completely packed Erwin Center crowd. Many sang along and waved their lit-up cell phones in the air, a nice vote of confidence for the young guy. (At 60, Finn’s a decade behind youngest Mac mainstay Nicks.)

Christine, 75, is the oldest of the bunch, but she remains vital in making this band work, especially with Buckingham absent. She wrote or co-wrote nine of the show’s 22 songs, three more than the higher-profile Nicks. “Say You Love Me,” “You Make Loving Fun” and “Don’t Stop” were expected Christine high points, but a surprise addition was “All Over Again,” a mostly forgotten but lovely song from 1995′s “Time” that Christine and Stevie sang as a duet to end the night.

Nicks got huge ovations for crowd favorites such as “Dreams,” “Rhiannon” and “Gold Dust Woman.” Smartly making a local reference, she dedicated “Landslide” to Austinite Christopher Cross, who was in attendance, calling him “one of my favorite singers of all time.” She also did a fine job with another Green gem, “Black Magic Woman” (sung by Austinite Gregg Rolie on Santana’s 1970 hit version). And it was lovely to hear her take the lead vocal on an encore-opening rendition of “Free Fallin’” by her good friend Tom Petty, after Campbell had chimed in with the song’s signature guitar intro.

Fleetwood remains the band’s spiritual center, hamming up an extended drum solo in “World Turning” before graciously introducing the full band (which included five additional musicians on keyboards, guitar, percussion and backing vocals). And it came to him to acknowledge, at the very end of the night, the absence that was felt throughout. Finn gave a brief shoutout to Buckingham in kicking off the main-set closer “Go Your Own Way,” but Fleetwood offered a heartfelt tribute and “get well soon” as he said his goodbyes.


RELATED: Our review of Buckingham’s November 2018 show in Austin https://www.austin360.com/entertainmentlife/20181106/lindsey-buckingham-goes-his-own-way-with-paramount-performance

[SteveMacD]

Willie Nelson and Kris Kristofferson are doing the same in their 80s.
They apparently don’t have the same type of health issues Lindsey is predisposed to.

a "genetic heart condition"? all we know he has family history of heart disease.
:shocked:

Okay, then, a genetic predisposition to heart disease. Still, that’s a pretty heavy piss over semantics, even by your standards.

[SteveMacD]

The term bullying is being abused and misused lately. If the band’s fans are “harmed” by criticism of them they need to go someplace where the band is not going to be criticized. A personal attack on bandmembers is not a personal attack on a fan and those that take it as such really probably should not be online.

I’m more worried about some loony getting fueled up on the excessive hate and bitterness on forums like this and causing actual harm or worse. I’ve already heard rumors of death threats against band members. But we don’t have any responsibility for that, do we?

[BombaySapphire3]

I’m more worried about some loony getting fueled up on the excessive hate and bitterness on forums like this and causing actual harm or worse. I’ve already heard rumors of death threats against band members. But we don’t have any responsibility for that, do we?

I don't agree with a lot of your opinions on here but I would not have taken you for a drama queen...I stand corrected.

[secondhandchain]

I’m more worried about some loony getting fueled up on the excessive hate and bitterness on forums like this and causing actual harm or worse. I’ve already heard rumors of death threats against band members. But we don’t have any responsibility for that, do we?

Oh please, no one has come near anything like that here. She deserves all the goat calling she is getting.

[HomerMcvie]

Oh please, no one has come near anything like that here. She deserves all the goat calling she is getting.

Amen. 20 ish years ago, $he had some psycho named B*ll Gamels*n(I'm always discreet enough to not get sued, lol), that was a major stalker for her old goatness. I only remember because I saved a pic of him skydiving with a license plate with her name on it. I believe they had to get a restraining order against him.

$he ain't Bob Dylan, and $he ain't John Lennon, either.

[michelej1]

I’m more worried about some loony getting fueled up on the excessive hate and bitterness on forums like this and causing actual harm or worse. I’ve already heard rumors of death threats against band members. But we don’t have any responsibility for that, do we?

No, we don’t have any responsibility for that. It would make more sense to worry about irrational, obsessed Ledgies coming after other Ledgies than to worry about the band members.

[Jondalar]

Amen. 20 ish years ago, $he had some psycho named B*ll Gamels*n(I'm always discreet enough to not get sued, lol), that was a major stalker for her old goatness. I only remember because I saved a pic of him skydiving with a license plate with her name on it. I believe they had to get a restraining order against him.

$he ain't Bob Dylan, and $he ain't John Lennon, either.

She ain’t Ringo either!!!!

[button-lip]

Oh please, no one has come near anything like that here. She deserves all the goat calling she is getting.

She probably thought no one would notice the absence of Lindsey in the band because she’s the absolute Queen. She wanted to punish him AND his family, for whatever horrible thing he must have done in her twisted mind.

She probably never imagined the hate that was gonna come her way, and much less what happened with Lindsey last week.

And all this because of some stupid whim. Yes, she deserves what she’s getting right now. I’m sure she and her fans can take it. Same with the rest of the band.

[elle]

I’m more worried about some loony getting fueled up on the excessive hate and bitterness on forums like this and causing actual harm or worse. I’ve already heard rumors of death threats ?

no, you did not hear anything. if you were really worried, then you wouldn't try to spread bs made up by gldstwmn.

she made it up on twitter after reading Finn talking Bon Jovi lyrics - and Finn fans laughed her off for her ignorance so she took it back. i think he quoted "I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride I'm wanted dead or alive."

[HomerMcvie]

she made it up on twitter after reading Finn talking Bon Jovi lyrics - and Finn fans laughed her off for her ignorance so she took it back. i think he quoted "I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride I'm wanted dead or alive."

Good lort, $he really is dumber than a bag of hammers.

[button-lip]

Good lort, $he really is dumber than a bag of hammers.

But some people choose to believe it because it's easier than, let's say, face the fact that what Stevie did last year brought some nasty consequences. For everybody, except her.

[HomerMcvie]

But some people choose to believe it because it's easier than, let's say, face the fact that what Stevie did last year brought some nasty consequences. For everybody, except her.

Although her four children might disagree, I'd say it's the nastiest thing $he's ever done.

[jeets2000]

:shocked:

Okay, then, a genetic predisposition to heart disease. Still, that’s a pretty heavy piss over semantics, even by your standards.

Sorry, I can't let this go... a genetic heart condition is absolutely not the same thing as a predisposition to heart disease. They're not even in the same ballpark, so to call it a quibble over "semantics" is wrong and dishonest. I know, I have it in my family.

Alright, back to your regularly scheduled programming...

[elle]

see whether you guys can play this - it's a video by someone who went yesterday and was nice to share in our FB group - it's Mick's speech at the end of the show. in case anyone's interested.

https://www.facebook.com/APerfectLie226/videos/10212532214650451/it played fine.

what he said was fine, if a bit perfunctory.

Shame the rest of the band didn't stick around onstage whilst he said it. Cold. (to me anyway).

Good on Neil for at least having the class to say something *during* the show.

I'm sure Stevie and her people don't want her anywhere near any mention of him because they want to protect her from any negative questions or boos or whatever. Can't upset the Queen. Remember, from the earliest days of the band, the band members can never be blamed for ANYTHING even when they deserve it.

Good of Neil to say something. I'm sure he felt compelled since he's singing Lindsey's songs this tour; it's the only decent thing to do. Good on him. (I've felt that Mike and Neil both are innocent bystanders of this drama and not to blame for this crap, and now I have added respect for Neil. Glad he spoke up.)

Mick saying something at the end after half the crowd was gone?.... not surprising. It's absolutely on brand for him... wishy washy, half-hearted attempt to save some face, gets to check off a box for "mentioning Lindsey at the show" without having to face the full crowd's reaction... all right on brand.

respect to Neil for saying the right thing at the right time and obviously being a decent guy. i'm happy he did that and good for him. and it just makes the stark contrast and puts in perspective the other 4.

i think what Mick said was sincere and ok. he should have said much more, and he should have said it at the point in the show when most of the people weren't already on their way out. but what he did say was ok.

Christine and Stevie - no comment.

John never says anything.

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[Sugar Mouse]

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The ironic thing is that Neil and Lindsey would likely be friends and musical collaborators if circumstances had been different. Both are musical geniuses who value creativity and family.

[elle]

The ironic thing is that Neil and Lindsey would likely be friends and musical collaborators if circumstances had been different. Both are musical geniuses who value creativity and family.

agree. you never know, maybe they will be.

as his dedication shows too, i have to believe Neil couldn't have dreamed of the clusterf*ck he was stepping into.

[Jondalar]

Who will Stevie target next?

[annabellee]

My takeaway is don't look a gift goat in the mouth. He mocked the best thing that ever happened to him and she cast spells upon him. Am I getting this right?

[HomerMcvie]

My takeaway is don't look a gift goat in the mouth. He mocked the best thing that ever happened to him and she cast spells upon him. Am I getting this right?

I believe that you are spot on. Congrats.

[SortaSavageLike]

I warned you guys about this years ago and you never listened.

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[Macfan4life]

This board is getting crazy lately. Thank goodness I feel the same as Lindsey's wife and she is on the record. Maybe I will be flamed less.
WTF
So many comments demanding Fleetwood mac change their set list since Lindsey's health issue. So many demanding public statements from band members while on stage. So many diagnosing Lindsey from afar. Maybe some people are bored and just want to stir up drama over and over on the board or with each other. Why would this band do any of these things?
Rock groups can have some silly firings. When Van Halen fired Sammy Hagar it was because Sammy sided with Michael Anthony. How dare he side with someone against the brothers Van Halen. Fleetwood mac did not fire Lindsey over a family dispute. It was because one member did not like his look or the way he danced behind her at an awards show. To make it worse she blackmailed the band.....its him or me. Seeing their 10 million dollars disappear in front of them, they threw their vocalist and guitarist to the curb not caring about their legacy or what's wrong or what's right. Even worse, no band member including Christine would even return an email or phone call to Lindsey. The character and soul of this band is corrupt. We saw them not even want to give Bob Welch a moment with them at the Rock N Roll hall of fame.

So why are some of you acting so crazy in thinking they need to say something from the stage or change their setlist? OMG, they fired Lindsey but perform his songs on stage? No band would ever dare to do something so vulgar. I was repulsed at Mick's statement. There were some that mentioned..."it seemed from the heart." Are you f*cking kidding me? What's wrong with some of you? Thank you Kristen for saying what I have been thinking and saying the entire time. Mixed feelings? Bullsh*t! She was trying to be nice with saying that. Its beyond words they would dare say anything about him. They cut him off for 10 million greedy dollars. Any one of them could have stopped it. They pushed him off the ship with no life preserver and ignored him for money. Its so wrong to send messages from the band to Lindsey's wife for approval or disapproval. Fleetwood Mac members are horrible people. Stop it. I get exactly what Kristen feels.

Lets get beyond this. Lindsey got paid for a tour he did not participate on. Good for him. Lindsey completed a very successful and long solo tour. Good for him. Lindsey is recording new music. Good for him. Lindsey will recover and we all love him so much. Good for him.

And finally. Lindsey is no longer a member of Fleetwood mac. Good for him!
After a forest fire there is not much life, but after the fire new life begins and it starts to flourish. The Mac is Lindsey's past. I don't recognize the cover band the Mac is today. Its time to move on.