24K - Tracklist

[nicole21290]

Well, being in Australia does have some advantages. Thought I'd check iTunes before I went to work... ;)

NORMAL EDITION

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DELUXE EDITION

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[welcomechris]

omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ImpossibleHoney]

Thank goodness that "Blue Water" made it!!! :]

[HoursAndHours]

Thank goodness that "Blue Water" made it!!! :]

And All The Beautiful Worlds!

Plus that artwork is awesome.

[louielouie2000]

Looks like The Dealer really is the first single! :shocked:

What an unexpected track list... I never, ever thought I'd see Mabel Normand on an album.

Blue Water, All The Beautiful Worlds, and If You Were My Love... all favs. Glad to see they made it. Lots of unknown tracks, though!

[loverly13]

!!!!!!! Freaking out! I'm happy. I've never heard of Mabel Normans until today, and I would have lovedddddd for Julia and Space Needle to be on it, but I'm pleased. Beggars can't be choosers, right?

[ImpossibleHoney]

And All The Beautiful Worlds!

Plus that artwork is awesome.

That artwork IS gorgeous! I was just so excited that the song that I really wanted made the cut. Cannot wait to have this in my hands!!!

[olive]

Cathouse Blues!

[HoursAndHours]

That artwork IS gorgeous! I was just so excited that the song that I really wanted made the cut. Cannot wait to have this in my hands!!!

So I guess Twisted is the other bonus track (and the one that was played live). I hope it's got the spoken part from Thousand Days like she did during the Enchanted Tour.

[wheart]

She Loves Him Still...Thank you

[louielouie2000]

Well, being in Australia does have some advantages. Thought I'd check iTunes before I went to work... ;)

Looks like from your picture that The Dealer is available for purchase... so did you buy it?! :]

[welcomechris]

How Is It? Post it on Youtube or something I NEED TO HEAR

[Phil]

Wow, I just purchased "The Dealer" and have played it a few times - it sounds so faithful to the Tusk version.

[sorcerer999]

HOLY F**K!!!!! This might be more exciting than the Instagram updates we're waiting for!!!

Four of my favorites/wishlist made the cut!!! THANK GOD "Blue Water" is on this list!!! I'm on cloud nine!:blob2::blob2::blob2:

I wonder if "Lady" is "Knocking On Doors"? And any speculation as to what "Hard Advice" might be?

Another version of "Twisted"? :shrug:

Yeah. This is great! This listing makes so much sense and makes me sooooooooo very happy! I guess since the three Rhiannon songs aren't on here, then maybe she IS planning on doing something with that project soon.

I will shed one lonely tear for the exclusion of "Night Gallery" and move on...:laugh:

[welcomechris]

Twisted????

[MoonSister75]

So SO happy with this!! Look at that beautiful cover! and my two favourites - The Dealer and Blue Water. It bought a tear to my eye :]

[Phil]

I now remember reading about the track "Hard Advice" in some late 90's interview, but had completely forgotten about it.
I am so pleased with the inclusion of "All The Beautiful Worlds", "Blue Water" and "She Loves Him Still". I wondered if "Cathouse Blues" would be included, but had dismissed the notion. Dave would love this track. That must be the 1969 song.

[louielouie2000]

!!!!!!! Freaking out! I'm happy. I've never heard of Mabel Normans until today, and I would have lovedddddd for Julia and Space Needle to be on it, but I'm pleased. Beggars can't be choosers, right?

It'll be very interesting to hear how she'll pull off Mabel Normand with her current voice. Part of what made that demo so great was it's coke fueled zaniness.

I'm not surprised Space Needle isn't present. It was just too dark for Stevie to release.

[sorcerer999]

What is "Carousel"? Fritz? Buck/Nicks?

[HoursAndHours]

Wow, I just purchased "The Dealer" and have played it a few times - it sounds so faithful to the Tusk version.

This album looks so amazing.

So I've heard of, but never heard, Carousel, and
I know Hard Advice has been mentioned, but I don't know if anyone's ever heard it? I guess it's not a precursor to That Made Me Stronger.

Finally, I love how we now have the tracklist, but Stevie's Instagram hasn't been updated. I wonder what we'll get to hear...

[HoursAndHours]

And what the heck song is Lady?

Depending on what turns out to be what, it looks like I got just about half of my wishlist. Yaaaayyyyy! But also notice that there is no Julia. :shocked:

[sorcerer999]

And what the heck song is Lady?

Depending on what turns out to be what, it looks like I got just about half of my wishlist. Yaaaayyyyy! But also notice that there is no Julia. :shocked:

I'm actually kind of glad there's no "Julia". The Bella Donna version is finished and is perfection already. I'm willing to bet it will be released someday on a BD anniversary edition or some kind of Stevie retrospective collection.

I think "Lady" MIGHT BE what we've known as "Knocking On Doors". :shrug:

[StevieNicksfann]

someone posted this snippet of the Dealer -

credit to Liam McConville:

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/weaz71f8urkx84s/New+Recording+4.m4a

[WatchChain]

!!!!!!! Freaking out! I'm happy. I've never heard of Mabel Normans until today, and I would have lovedddddd for Julia and Space Needle to be on it, but I'm pleased. Beggars can't be choosers, right?

I can only speculate that "Julia" and "Space Needle" are going straight to the new Fleetwood Mac album. She needs to save some strong cuts for that record. WATCH CHAIN made it!!! I have been waiting at least 10 years for a formal studio version of that song! :]

[He's So Unusual]

I love the artwork, I'm also happy to see Belle Fleur on there, but I'm gutted that Julia is missing, maybe Fleetwood Mac will do something with it on their upcoming album.

[olive]

TWISTED ? :shrug:

[bombaysaffires]

so far nothing on US iTunes.

Isn't it the 5th of August now in Australia? Maybe we have to wait til after midnight here in the US?

It's 3pm on the west coast and still nothing on Instagram. :shrug:

[welcomechris]

Omg I Love The Snippet

[loverly13]

Loveeee it! I'm so excited. I don't care of I have to be up at 5 am tomorrow morning. I'll be waiting at midnight to preorder.

Do you think we'll get a download of The Dealer when we preorder the cd/vinyl, or do you think it's an iTunes exclusive?

[sorcerer999]

So that now leaves "Goldfish & Lady Bug" as the lone track from Almanac that still hasn't found a spot yet. Of course...there's the upcoming cartoon...:laugh:

I thought she pulled all these demos from YouTube? Do you guys think "Hard Advice", "I Don't Care" and "Carousel" are all songs we haven't heard before or possibly renamed tracks we already have?

Yeah...I'm not understanding the decision to re-record "Twisted". Did she forget about the Soundtrack version with Lindsey?

[HoursAndHours]

Songs from my wishlist that made it:

Starshine
If You Were My Love
24 Karat Gold
Belle Fleur
All The Beautiful Worlds
Watch Chain
Blue Water
The Dealer

Songs I will be a little sad about (or holding out for on the FM record):
Forest Of The Black Roses
Maker Of Birds
Forsaken Love
Mixdown/Love And War
City Of Hope
Love You Enough

Songs I'm really surprised didn't make it:
Space Needle
Have No Heart

[HoursAndHours]

Yeah...I'm not understanding the decision to re-record "Twisted". Did she forget about the Soundtrack version with Lindsey?

Or the version from Enchanted? :shrug:

[sorcerer999]

Or the version from Enchanted? :shrug:

Well the version from Enchanted is basically a demo, just with some added instrumentation from other musicians to make it sound good. It's a great version! :) I'm just puzzled by the decision to record it again. Who knows? It might be one of the best songs on the new album.:shrug:

[James89]

Everyone in the US. When you can, buy The Dealer so it can chart and make this album the great success it deserves to be!!! :]

[markolas]

Good lord, I was kidding when I mentioned "Mabel Normand" in the other thread. :laugh:

[sorcerer999]

Good lord, I was kidding when I mentioned "Mabel Normand" in the other thread. :laugh:

I love you, Markolas!!! :xoxo:

[welcomechris]

I wonder if this time the twisted will sound like it on the Enchanted tour

[EnchantedAngel]

It looks like The Dealer is definitely the first single - searched the clip on Shazam and this cover came up...

(btw this is my first post on The Ledge - been a 'lurker' for a while and finally decided to show my face so... HI:] )

[pwyll]

is it possible to keep your regular us iTunes library but download iTunes from another country?

[HoursAndHours]

Well the version from Enchanted is basically a demo, just with some added instrumentation from other musicians to make it sound good. It's a great version! :) I'm just puzzled by the decision to record it again. Who knows? It might be one of the best songs on the new album.:shrug:

This is true, but it does make two versions of the song given a proper release. But, I remember her saying that the placement of that song at the end of the movie caused her message to people to be lost, and that she wasn't too happy about that. Maybe in the Enchanted liner notes? I guess she really wants to drive her point home. :shrug:

[sorcerer999]

I wonder if this time the twisted will sound like it on the Enchanted tour

Oooooo! That would be awesome! Complete with the intro..."You like to be TWISSSSSSTEEEEEEEDDDDDD..." Shivers and goosebumps! Yeah!

[Machu]

Sounds pretty good, I'll take it. I'm most excited about If You Were My Love, Blue Water, Twisted (yeah, even another version), and Belle Fleur.

Maybe she's saving some of the others for the Mac? Forsaken Love? PLEASE?!

[sodascouts]

Oh my gosh -SHE LOVES HIM STILL YES! Also thrilled about Starshine and several other choices, as well as the fact that there are a few surprises that we haven't heard before. As for poor Mabel Normand - well, I'll keep an open mind. At least there's no Gypsy Beggar. ;)

[pwyll]

could "Lady" be "China Doll?"

[markolas]

I dreamed about the tracklist last night and most of the songs on it we had never heard of. I'm beginning to truly believe I'm at least partially psychic.

I've seen "Hard Advice" (which everyone assumed was a working title for "That Made Me Stronger," but evidently not) and "Carousel" on lists of uncirculated demos. No clue what "Lady" and "I Don't Care" could be.

It's a very unexpected tracklist, although some favorites are on it. I'm not entirely surprised by the absence of "Julia" and the Rhiannon songs. Thrilled that "If You Were My Love" made it.

[Keith]

Oh my gosh -SHE LOVES HIM STILL YES!

Agree. That's all I needed... :-)

[loverly13]

Ughhh. Not feeling The Dealer's single cover. I'm worried a lot of these "never-before-seen" pics we get will be a lot of RAL/Klonopin era selfies that just make me sad. They're far from the most flattering pictures of Stevie and she looks high as a kite in most of them. I'm a little surprised she'd use them...

[michelej1]

Well, being in Australia does have some advantages. Thought I'd check iTunes before I went to work... ;)



Really nice scavenging. Thanks for posting.

Michele

[StevieNicksfann]

Well, being in Australia does have some advantages. Thought I'd check iTunes before I went to work... ;)

NORMAL EDITION

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DELUXE EDITION

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Thank you so much for posting!

[pattyfan]

I can NOT believe that Cathouse Blues made it. That is unbelievable. And Watch Chain. Awesome. I love Space Needle, but I feel like the "demo" is actually pretty finished, so I feel fine just having that version. And Blue Water. yaaay. The only one that I love that isn't on here is China Doll. Maybe on the next Fleetwood Mac CD? Anyway, awesome :) :)

[olive]

it's all over the place someone even posted the clip on her instagram page talk about being late to your own party

[loverly13]

it's all over the place someone even posted the clip on her instagram page talk about being late to your own party

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Maybe we haven't gotten anything yet because now they're scrambling. Maybe that was what they were planning on posting.

[olive]

I would think the Rhianon songs would be recorded with Fleetwood Mac

[RockALittle250]

That album cover is exactly what I was hoping for when IYD came out...accentuating Stevie's natural beauty by being a close-up of her face. It's perfect! I like that the text is her OWN handwriting too. Smart choice!

[sodascouts]

I wonder why "Watch Chain" was relegated to bonus track. I love that one.

[sorcerer999]

I wonder why "Watch Chain" was relegated to bonus track. I love that one.

I'm hoping it's because they retained that R&B, funky bass feel, like the demo. If so, then maybe it's a bonus track because it doesn't match the vibe of the other tracks. :shrug:

[olive]

so you would buy the more expensive :laugh:one

[sorcerer999]

so you would buy the more expensive :laugh:one

^^ Haha! Or that! :xoxo:

[Neal]

Am I the only one feeling gutted that 'Joan of Arc' didn't make it??? :shrug:

/melodrama :cool:

But seriously, that was the track I was most looking forward to, with 'Julia' being a close second.

[ViscountViktor]

So where's Turnstile 69?:laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

Am I the only one feeling gutted that 'Joan of Arc' didn't make it??? :shrug:

/melodrama :cool:

But seriously, that was the track I was most looking forward to, with 'Julia' being a close second.

I guess I just feel like the versions I have of those are basically complete. They're not reel-demos with no instrumentation or backgrounds. There's not talking over the mix, or missing the words. I really did expect Julia to be there anyway.

But hey, maybe she'll do a "Volume 2." Or... she had 10 songs on the last FM album, I know she won't have that many this time, but she could easily have 6 or 7 if it's a double album, as has been suggested.

[michelej1]

AND are there going to be other bonus tracks, depending on the retailer. For instance, will Amazon have it's own bonus track?

Michele

[Neal]

Oh, and 'Cathouse Blues' is B-side material at best compared to some of the potential songs that could have been on here.

Just sayin'.

[HoursAndHours]

So where's Turnstile 69?:laugh:

LOL. :]

That first tracklist was "almost" convincing.

[pattyfan]

I think Cathouse Blues is one of her best vocals, and I love her more country side, so one person's b-side is another person's AA side :)

Kevin

[HoursAndHours]

I think Cathouse Blues is one of her best vocals, and I love her more country side, so one person's b-side is another person's AA side :)

Kevin

Plus, we have no idea what she's done with it. It could be given a full musical treatment with more lyrics... who knows?

[Neal]

I'm sure I'll end up loving everything about this album (I always do!), but first impression is that the "leaked" tracklist from last week was... well, better? :sorry:

[sorcerer999]

Anyone else find it odd that the sequencing between the normal CD and the Expanded CD is really kind of schizophrenic? "The Dealer" is track 2 on the normal, and is track 15 on the expanded.

Belle Fleur ~ normal 11/expanded 6
Blue Water ~ normal 4/expanded 13

...just to give a few examples.

Do you think this was Stevie's decision? Do two songs really make the sequencing change up so drastically?

Or do you think it has to do with the length of each track, for vinyl pressing purposes? Sides A, B, C and D need to be under a specific time frame in order to sound good.

[olive]

I think Cathouse Blues is one of her best vocals, and I love her more country side, so one person's b-side is another person's AA side :)

Kevin

i agreee she needs to make a country album to honor her roots/grandfather

[KarmaContestant]

I love this! Love the tracklist, love the album cover, love the cover art for The Dealer!

Not so keen on Stevie's vocal for The Dealer, but the arrangement is excellent, and very true to the original. I'm sure I'll grow to love it.

Totally excited about Mabel Normand, All The Beautiful Worlds and She Loves Him Still!

Very curious about Hard Advice, Lady, and I Don't Care. :nod:

[KarmaContestant]

Or do you think it has to do with the length of each track, for vinyl pressing purposes? Sides A, B, C and D need to be under a specific time frame in order to sound good.

This, most likely.

[pattyfan]

I would be ecstatic if she did a country album/tour. But I don't think that would be a risk she is willing to run. Maybe an EP with a short little tour at some point? :)

It's funny. I never ever though I'd hear them do Silver Springs live. Ditto Storms. Ditto Beautiful Child. Ditto Garbo, Twisted, Gold and Braid (again), and Rose Garden. So it just goes to show you that you never know. :laugh:

So here's hoping for the country CD/tour, or at least FM doing That's Alright live. :)

Kevin

[michelej1]

It's interesting to think of closing songs for each album side again, having it on vinyl. Just like the old days. I think Twisted is a good album closer. I don't know anything about Lady.

Michele

[welcomechris]

It all makes sense! Twisted was done live but never got a proper release!

[tothegypsy]

But it did...she recorded it as a duet with Lindsey for Twister.

[welcomechris]

But it did...she recorded it as a duet with Lindsey for Twister.

How is a movie soundtrack a proper release

[Turn It On]

Except it did, on the Twister Soundtrack. And Enchanted.

[HoursAndHours]

How is a movie soundtrack a proper release

It was completed, mixed, and mastered for release to the public as a studio track? :shrug:

[Turn It On]

It was completed, mixed, and mastered for release to the public as a studio track? :shrug:

Twice. I'm not really sure what more would need to be done to make it a 'proper' release.

[StreetAngel86]

Well, being in Australia does have some advantages. Thought I'd check iTunes before I went to work... ;)

NORMAL EDITION

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/24k_zps1e9f5d18.jpg

DELUXE EDITION

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t529/nicolebarker1990/24deluxe_zps4ac82297.jpg


i preordered the deluxe as soon as i got up
that made my morning.
still want the vinyl if i can get ma hands on it

So SO happy with this!! Look at that beautiful cover! and my two favourites - The Dealer and Blue Water. It bought a tear to my eye :]


i cried lol ... at Blue Water and All the Beautiful Worlds
and then i cried that there's no Space Needle and Have no Heart.
but i will live :)

[Japhry]

This is EXCITING news :-). "All The Beautiful Worlds", "If You Were My Love", "Blue Water" and "Watch Chain"!!

I have to say I'm "kind of" dissappointed that we're not getting "Joan of Arc" or "Have no Heart". Also-I was kind of hoping that she and Dave would be able to flesh out "At The Fair" and complete it. :shrug:

[RockALittle250]

Perhaps certain "bonus tracks" will be exclusive to the U.S., Australia, U.K., etc...

[sorcerer999]

This is EXCITING news :-). "All The Beautiful Worlds", "If You Were My Love", "Blue Water" and "Watch Chain"!!

I have to say I'm "kind of" dissappointed that we're not getting "Joan of Arc" or "Have no Heart". Also-I was kind of hoping that she and Dave would be able to flesh out "At The Fair" and complete it. :shrug:

Well...that just means she'll have to record "Songs From The Vault ~ Part II" sometime in the next 10 years. :nod:

[michelej1]

But it did...she recorded it as a duet with Lindsey for Twister.

It was also on the Best Buy FM cd.

Michele

[PenguinHead]

Sometimes it's a Bitch. The bitching has begun!

Great to know the song selection! Accept it for what it is, not what you wanted it to be. These are Stevie's selections, not ours. Get over your personal disappointment. Be grateful we have another Stevie Nicks album, and we didn't have to wait a decade for it.

As some Ledgies predicted, several of the song titles are new to us. All of the songs would be new to us if they weren't so heavily circulated since the early 1980s. In more primitive times we traded/shared them on cassettes by snail mail. Only in the internet age did they become accessible to the entire world.

I'm certainly getting the 16 song deluxe version. Wasn't it stated that 18 songs were recorded? If so, I'm sure those two songs will eventually pop up. Maybe Stevie earmarked some other vault songs for Fleetwood Mac to record. There is still hope that some of your favorite songs that didn't make the cut will emerge. Otherwise, well, you still have the demos!

[Jondalar]

I find the track listing shocking to say the least. A little surreal. I love the album cover.

[louielouie2000]

This is EXCITING news :-). "All The Beautiful Worlds", "If You Were My Love", "Blue Water" and "Watch Chain"!!

I have to say I'm "kind of" dissappointed that we're not getting "Joan of Arc"

Those first 4 are all so very exciting!

The loss of Joan of Arc, Mirror Mirror, Cecelia, and Forest Of The Black Roses stings, though. Not that I ever expected any to be there, mind you. Maybe on the next album? :D

I'm not nuts about Stevie's vocal on the Dealer, but I'm hoping it's just a poor mix on my crappy laptop/cell phone speakers. Like I've said before, it's not one of my fav demos anyway, so it's kind of a moot point. However, I do love the fact they chose to channel the Tusk Dealer vs the Bella Donna one. :)

[KarmaContestant]

What I find fascinating right now is the selection of songs Stevie settled on for this album. It's interesting to me, that of all the songs on YouTube, these are the songs that she listened to and said "Nope never really gonna use that." Because the songs that didn't get picked are sort of...glaringly obvious - be they the Rhiannon songs, or things like Gypsy Beggar, Something Exquisite, Beautiful Ghost, Forsaken Love, Love Don't Fail Me Now (seriously, one of her best forays into pop songwriting ever), Prettiest Girl In The World, Have No Heart, All the King's Horses, Chanel Chanel - one might conclude that the songs she didn't choose are still, in her mind, material that could be used for a 'regular' Stevie Nicks release, instead of a 'from the vault' release.

Even stranger to me is the inclusion of Twisted - even as a bonus track - because it's already been released. I can only assume that she didn't care for the end product with Lindsey's involvement, but the more likely scenario is that she feels strongly enough about the song being 'lost' or 'forgotten' that she choose to re-record it for this special album.

I am convinced that Lady is something we know, but with a different title.

I Don't Care and Hard Advice, I suspect, are not songs she gleaned from YouTube, which brings me back to my original point of how really very interesting it is to ponder the songs she didn't choose, as opposed to the songs she did. Were there not enough choices from YouTube? Were too many of them songs that she wants to reserve, so to speak, for future projects - or perhaps many of them are completed as far as she is concerned, and waiting to be added to expanded albums, like Julia for Bella Donna?

Does anyone think she might do this again?

I'm going to compile a list of what *didn't* get picked.

[StreetAngel86]

can u SAVE album cover artwork from itunes????
i hate the changed layouts
i love the album cover
i need it as my wallpaper
it wont let me find the file to save it :shrug:

[KarmaContestant]

Also-I was kind of hoping that she and Dave would be able to flesh out "At The Fair" and complete it. :shrug:

Could Carousel be At The Fair? :shrug:

[welcomechris]

Could Carousel be At The Fair? :shrug:

Doubt it, it is a track from 89' the tracks here are from 69-87'

Stevie herself referred to the song as "At The Fair" at the Ohio State Fair in 1994.

And Carousel is not one word in at the fair, or any stevie demo we know

[Travis]

Agree. That's all I needed... :-)

I was hoping for this as well :-)

[Josh2003]

A CAROUSEL IS A WHEEL THAT SPINS SO MAYBE "CAROUSEL" IS "SPINNING WHEEL"!

I'm just kidding. What a fun time to be a fan!

[michelej1]

I Don't Care and Hard Advice, I suspect, are not songs she gleaned from YouTube, which brings me back to my original point of how really very interesting it is to ponder the songs she didn't choose, as opposed to the songs she did.



The reality is, with one or two exceptions, Stevie probably didn't actually get most of these songs from Youtube. Something like The Dealer has probably been in her mind to officially record for years. Yes, maybe she went to Youtube to listen to it again, but she didn't discover the bulk of them again on Youtube the way she says she did Without You. She probably had a list she was thinking of and sent other people to Youtube to help her figure out which from that list would make the cut.

And you're right that what she didn't choose is interesting. Because then everyone will have to make two columns and decide if she didn't choose it because she rejected it for good or because she's saving it for later. With the Rhiannon songs, based on what she's been saying for decades now, she's saving them, for sure. With other songs, as was discussed withSpace Needle, that song is never going to be released. It's over. Fergeddaboutit.

Michele

[editme2]

Very excited by the track listing. Includes some favorites—The Dealer, Blue Water, She Loves Him Still, If You Were My Love—and some great surprises: Mabel Normand, Cathouse Blues.

Looking forward to hearing the unknown tracks, too.

Very grateful that we're getting to hear these great old songs redone with a contemporary flare.

[BlueLight]

Could Carousel be At The Fair? :shrug:

I truly doubt that this is the case, BUT I couldn't help but remember that Vanessa Carlton wrote and recorded a song by the same title. :shrug:

[KarmaContestant]

And you're right that what she didn't choose is interesting. Because then everyone will have to make two columns and decide if she didn't choose it because she rejected it for good or because she's saving it for later. With the Rhiannon songs, based on what she's been saying for decades now, she's saving them, for sure. With other songs, as was discussed withSpace Needle, that song is never going to be released. It's over. Fergeddaboutit.

Michele

If there were ever a song to be rejected for good, that list could include Cathouse Blues and Mabel Normand. Much to everyone's surprise, they've been recorded. :laugh:

[sorcerer999]

At this point, I expect her next album to be the "Game Of Thrones" songs she mentioned she was writing. :laugh:

I think we're more likely to see that one before the Rhiannon album/movie/musical whatever...

[michelej1]

I truly doubt that this is the case, BUT I couldn't help but remember that Vanessa Carlton wrote and recorded a song by the same title. :shrug:

Oh you're right. And Stevie sang on it with her at a show. Believe me, no Vanessa Carlton song better be on this album.

Michele

[BlueLight]

So much to say, but I'll start with this: I am beyond thrilled with the track listing. It doesn't include every song on my wish list, but it does include many, along with a handful of songs I've never heard, which makes me that much more excited.

The iTunes preview of the Dealer, along with the snippets that Dave has posted so far, all sound great to my ear. And the Dealer is only going to sound better once downloaded and on vinyl - iTunes previews never have good song quality.

And I LOVE, LOVE the cover art - absolutely gorgeous. The handwriting is just perfect.

I, too, was struck by the different track listings. If I recall correctly, there was some disagreement between Stevie and the label as to the proper track listing for IYD, and an early acetate/press release had a different track listing (one that I by far preferred over the final one). All of which makes me wonder whether this is a way to split the baby. But in the end, I tend to think that the differences are meant to accommodate the space limitations of vinyl, and to a lesser extent the inclusion of the two additional bonus tracks.

Finally, the track listing makes me feel pretty confident that Stevie intends to release the Rhiannon songs as a separate project, whether it be as a solo project or with FM.

CANNOT wait for this to be released. :blob2:

[HoursAndHours]

The reality is, with one or two exceptions, Stevie probably didn't actually get most of these songs from Youtube. Something like The Dealer has probably been in her mind to officially record for years. Yes, maybe she went to Youtube to listen to it again, but she didn't discover the bulk of them again on Youtube the way she says she did Without You. She probably had a list she was thinking of and sent other people to Youtube to help her figure out which from that list would make the cut.

That's how I thought the whole album was. She knew about these songs, but she doesn't have the tapes, so they "found" them on YouTube (in that they intentionally went looking for them) and used the YouTube recording to reconstruct the songs.

I suspect we actually do know Lady and I Don't Care, just not the way they're titled and rebuilt. Hard Advice and Carousel I think are uncirculated (unless they were just misnamed online to begin with). We'll find out soon.

I could easily see Have No Heart and Space Needle turning up on an expanded edition of TISL, or even the new FM album (think about how dark most of her contributions to SYW were). But also, she probably has good board tapes of those songs. It wouldn't be hard for her to just issue them later, as an "outtakes" project where she doesn't re-record anything... or for b-sides or soundtracks, or whatever.

[PenguinHead]

If there were ever a song to be rejected for good, that list could include Cathouse Blues and Mabel Normand. Much to everyone's surprise, they've been recorded. :laugh:

Cat House Blues is one of my favorites; a fun, clever little song. So surprised that she plucked that one out of obscurity. I can't image what was done to make Mabel Normand releasable. Wow. I expected we would get the unexpected, and we sure did!

[KarmaContestant]

I'm not nuts about Stevie's vocal on the Dealer, but I'm hoping it's just a poor mix on my crappy laptop/cell phone speakers. Like I've said before, it's not one of my fav demos anyway, so it's kind of a moot point. However, I do love the fact they chose to channel the Tusk Dealer vs the Bella Donna one. :)

Wouldn't The Dealer have been glorious as a Rock A Little Track? Yes, yes it would. :nod: :laugh:

[welcomechris]

It is 8 pm on the east coast and 5 pm in la and still, no post via instagram

[TheWILDheart]

Doubt it, it is a track from 89' the tracks here are from 69-87'

Stevie herself referred to the song as "At The Fair" at the Ohio State Fair in 1994.

And Carousel is not one word in at the fair, or any stevie demo we know

"At The Fair" is an '84 demo from the scrapped "Mirror Mirror" album, is it not? Along with "She Calls You Missing", "Running Through The Garden", "Greta" and "Mirror Mirror"

[BlueLight]

It looks like The Dealer is definitely the first single - searched the clip on Shazam and this cover came up...

(btw this is my first post on The Ledge - been a 'lurker' for a while and finally decided to show my face so... HI:] )

Welcome! And thank you for posting this!

[BlueLight]

However, I do love the fact they chose to channel the Tusk Dealer vs the Bella Donna one. :)

I hope their decision to channel the earlier, Tusk-era incarnation of The Dealer suggests that they likewise chose to channel the earlier, Mirage-era IYWML, rather than the awful SA-era recording. :p

[Japhry]

Could Carousel be At The Fair? :shrug:

I was thinking that might be the case...

[michelej1]

I suspect we actually do know Lady and I Don't Care, just not the way they're titled and rebuilt.

Well ...if she didn't like the kind of dance club beat of POTU, I Don't Care could be that, truer to the No Light demo.

Michele

[Josh2003]

I truly doubt that this is the case, BUT I couldn't help but remember that Vanessa Carlton wrote and recorded a song by the same title. :shrug:

And it wouldn't be the first time Vanessa has inspired Stevie...

http://youtu.be/gs1Kus1OqoA

[HoursAndHours]

Well ...if she didn't like the kind of dance club beat of POTU, I Don't Care could be that, truer to the No Light demo.

Michele

It's too rockin' for that song, though. I'm thinking more along the lines of WHRRDFY... just with some additional lyrics and an updated chorus.

I bet Lady is either Knocking on Doors or Maker of Birds.

[secret love]

Is there going to be a CD release of 24 Karat Gold or will it only be sold on iTunes, like Extended Play was?

[PenguinHead]

Because the songs that didn't get picked are sort of...glaringly obvious - be they the Rhiannon songs, or things like Gypsy Beggar, Something Exquisite, Beautiful Ghost, Forsaken Love, Love Don't Fail Me Now (seriously, one of her best forays into pop songwriting ever), Prettiest Girl In The World, Have No Heart, All the King's Horses, Chanel Chanel - one might conclude that the songs she didn't choose are still, in her mind, material that could be used for a 'regular' Stevie Nicks release, instead of a 'from the vault' release.

I Don't Care and Hard Advice, I suspect, are not songs she gleaned from YouTube, which brings me back to my original point of how really very interesting it is to ponder the songs she didn't choose, as opposed to the songs she did. Were there not enough choices from YouTube? Were too many of them songs that she wants to reserve, so to speak, for future projects - or perhaps many of them are completed as far as she is concerned, and waiting to be added to expanded albums, like Julia for Bella Donna?

Does anyone think she might do this again?

I'm going to compile a list of what *didn't* get picked.

Interesting speculations. All the songs you mention are worthy of release. Glad you gave credit to Love Don't Fail Me Now; a great song that sort of fell off our radar. Notice how she is still using vintage photos from years past, like she did for Crystal Visions? I expected current Stevie photos; I guess she likes living in the past.

[welcomechris]

"At The Fair" is an '84 demo from the scrapped "Mirror Mirror" album, is it not? Along with "She Calls You Missing", "Running Through The Garden", "Greta" and "Mirror Mirror"

Listen to the vocal it sounds like OSOTM era.

[BlueLight]

Listen to the vocal it sounds like OSOTM era.

I believe it was recorded in or around 1988.

[sorcerer999]

No "Gypsy Beggars"...whoda thunk? :D

[Josh2003]

No "Gypsy Beggars"...whoda thunk? :D

And where is "Amber"??? :]

[BlueDenimLamp]

No "Gypsy Beggars"...whoda thunk? :D

I see that ...So what was Dave trying to tell us with that "Wild Heart- Gypsy Soul" sign?

[sorcerer999]

I see that ...So what was Dave trying to tell us with that "Wild Heart- Gypsy Soul" sign?

Like I said before, I don't think he was trying to tell us anything. I think he was excited about the album & posted a picture of a sign that reminded him of Stevie. Plain and simple. :nod:

[BlueLight]

OK, so possibly stupid question: is the album cover a photoshopped old picture, or a photoshopped new picture? Either way, it's gorgeous, but I'm having difficulty pinning down when it was taken.

[HoursAndHours]

I see that ...So what was Dave trying to tell us with that "Wild Heart- Gypsy Soul" sign?

There are four songs we're not sure about. Perhaps that lyric is in one of them too?

[secret love]

The Dealer sounds great! The vocal a little bit nasally but I've come to expect that. Placed my pre-order.

[HoursAndHours]

I'm really curious if the "Deluxe Edition with 48 pages of photos and 2 bonus tracks" are the same as the deluxe version on iTunes, or if there's 18 tracks on the hard copy...

[welcomechris]

Any music video news? A new single, and new video

[BombaySapphire3]

I'm pretty exicted for the album even though Julia didn't make it there is potential for some real gems here.I really didn't expect the Rhiannon songs so that is not a disappointment .I was thinking "Lady" could even be "Lady from the Mountain:shrug:" even though it has been partially released.

[PenguinHead]

OK, so possibly stupid question: is the album cover a photoshopped old picture, or a photoshopped new picture? Either way, it's gorgeous, but I'm having difficulty pinning down when it was taken.

Looks like a vintage photo from a different era, much like her Crystal Visions album photo. Not many artists do that; it's a bit strange. I wonder if any current photos were taken/featured in the package. She must have a hard time letting go of the past.

[secret love]

Looks like a vintage photo from a different era, much like her Crystal Visions album photo. Not many artists do that; it's a bit strange. I wonder if any current photos were taken/featured in the package. She must have a hard time letting go of the past.

She's just not as photogenic as she used to be. :sorry:

[BlueLight]

I just took a look at Amazon UK, and it looks like we'll be getting some single digital downloads on a rolling basis:

Lady on 8/25;
Starshine on 9/16; and
24 Karat Gold on 9/23.

[vivfox]

I was thinking "Lady" could even be "Lady from the Mountain:shrug:" even though it has been partially released.

I was thinking Lady From The Mountains also. I thought of the Vanessa Carlton song immediately when I saw Carousel. We have already heard I Don't Care. How could you all forget so soon the 3rd snippet Dave gave us? That was it! Hard Advice was written in 1995.

[welcomechris]

I was thinking Lady From The Mountains also. I thought of the Vanessa Carlton song immediately when I saw Carousel. We have already heard I Don't Care. How could you all forget so soon the 3rd snippet Dave gave us? That was it! Hard Advice was written in 1995.

Has "Hard Advice" ever been mentioned (pre-todays tracklisting)

[sorcerer999]

I just took a look at Amazon UK, and it looks like we'll be getting some single digital downloads on a rolling basis:

Lady on 8/25;
Starshine on 9/16; and
24 Karat Gold on 9/23.

Great news! See, now that's something new. 4 complete songs to download before the album comes out. :)

[HoursAndHours]

Has "Hard Advice" ever been mentioned (pre-todays tracklisting)

Only in that people noted that it was listed as a copyrighted work back in the mid-90s.

[HoursAndHours]

Great news! See, now that's something new. 4 complete songs to download before the album comes out. :)

Yeah, that's actually fantastic news. Those are all songs that have the running time listed in iTunes, along with a couple others. I wonder if that means we'll also get If You Were My Love, Blue Water and I Don't Care?

[Jondalar]

Has "Hard Advice" ever been mentioned (pre-todays tracklisting)

It's obvious that is another song about Tom Petty's advice to Stevie to write her own songs. Think it came out of That Made Me Stronger but I sure hope not.

[welcomechris]

Found it!!

Hard advice.
Description:Sound cassette & lyrics sheets.
Note:Words & music.
Claimant:acStephanie Nicks
Created:1995
Registered:21May97

[welcomechris]

Ahh Makes Sense one written in 1995 (Hard Advice) and one in 96 (twisted)

[KarmaContestant]

She's just not as photogenic as she used to be. :sorry:

Looks like a vintage photo from a different era, much like her Crystal Visions album photo. Not many artists do that; it's a bit strange. I wonder if any current photos were taken/featured in the package. She must have a hard time letting go of the past.

:laugh: I think maybe it's just that old photos are fun and the songs and photos, both from a time gone by, go together. Old songs, old photos, old memories.

[Jondalar]

Still trying to wrap my head around the track listing

[sorcerer999]

Still trying to wrap my head around the track listing

Are you happy or disappointed?

[HoursAndHours]

Still trying to wrap my head around the track listing

I'm really starting to be in love with the tracklist. This is the first album that I've been this excited about in a very long time. I wish they would hurry up and open up pre-orders in the US so I can buy The Dealer and listen to it about 90 times in a row, lol. :D

[Jondalar]

Are you happy or disappointed?

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

[HoursAndHours]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

I think most people are a little disappointed about the Rhiannon songs. But maybe she's saving them for the FM album. It might have been worse to only get one of them, right?

[michelej1]

This is the 2006 thread that mentions Hard Advice.

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=28219

[sorcerer999]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

Cheer up! You never know? What if Stevie makes your least favorites songs into songs that you end up loving? What if she does a whole "Rhiannon Project" album later on that just blows everything else out of the water?

I HATED the demo of "Secret Love" for decades, but her version on IYD is incredible and now it's one of my favorite songs!

Don't dismiss the project yet. Give it at least one or two good "listens". :)

[BombaySapphire3]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

I think the Rhiannon songs were an all or nothing deal ..I am kind of bummed also about Julia but there are numerous tracks here that I am very excited about and could be real treasures.Sheesh and I thought I was a real glass half empty person:laugh:

[PenguinHead]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

Why dismiss it before you've even heard it? Be grateful for what you're getting, even if it's not what You wanted. It's your choice to wallow in pity. These are the songs Stevie chose to record. Deal with it. I was hoping for Julia and Dial the Number. Oh well! Have No Heart was a loooooooooong shot!

[Phil]

I must have heard the "Mabel Normand" demo many years ago and just not retained the memory, but recently dug it up again due to a recent discussion on this forum. Well I couldn't believe what I was hearing and had to turn it off before it was finished because it truly was an assault to the ears. I'm just wondering what must have been going through Stevie's and Dave's minds when they chose to record it? Could we have just heard an embryonic demo and perhaps it did eventually evolve into an actual song? Is it more than just a coke-fuelled rant?

[Jondalar]

I must have heard the "Mabel Normand" demo many years ago and just not retained the memory, but recently dug it up again due to a recent discussion on this forum. Well I couldn't believe what I was hearing and had to turn it off before it was finished because it truly was an assault to the ears. I'm just wondering what must have been going through Stevie's and Dave's minds when they chose to record it? Could we have just heard an embryonic demo and perhaps it did eventually evolve into an actual song? Is it more than just a coke-fuelled rant?

No it sucks she goes from talking about Mable Normand and then makes the song about herself. Pretty Gross.

[Phil]

Oh! Thanks for clearing that up - hahahaha!!

[michelej1]

I don't remember if we got the tracklist for the Rumours bonus disc before it was released, but I'm just laughing thinking of what people must have speculated that Mic the Screecher was about.

Mabel Normand could have been finalized into a refreshing song or maybe it could be just a segue of sorts, giving us a little taste of the past, like Kiss and Run did.

Michele

[BlueLight]

The Dealer now available for download in the U.S. on iTunes, and the album (regular and deluxe) are available for pre-order on iTunes, too.

[BlueLight]

Cheer up! You never know? What if Stevie makes your least favorites songs into songs that you end up loving? What if she does a whole "Rhiannon Project" album later on that just blows everything else out of the water?

I HATED the demo of "Secret Love" for decades, but her version on IYD is incredible and now it's one of my favorite songs!

Don't dismiss the project yet. Give it at least one or two good "listens". :)

What he said! :D

Stevie very clearly purposefully omitted the Rhiannon songs from this album, no doubt for a later project of some sort. And given her recommitment to recording, I am confident that those songs (and others), will see the light of day.

[loverly13]

The Dealer now available for download in the U.S. on iTunes, and the album (regular and deluxe) are available for pre-order on iTunes, too.

You are an :angel:

Now to wait for Amazon (?) for the vinyl pre-order. Does anyone have any idea whether this photo book is digital with the deluxe itunes copy, or comes with the cd only? I don't want to buy digital if it comes with the cd.

[HoursAndHours]

The Dealer now available for download in the U.S. on iTunes, and the album (regular and deluxe) are available for pre-order on iTunes, too.

Yep. And it sounds great. She sounds older, but it's still rock solid. :]

[jkmaletic]

Is there any kind of advantage for pre-ordering a digital download? It's not like they're going to run out. :shrug:

[Phil]

I just want to be clear that I'm not complaining about the track-listing, just making observations, when I comment on the likes of "Mabel Normand" and perhaps something like "Hard Advice" (the title doesn't bode well). To be honest, I'm truly pleased about certain inclusions ("All The Beautiful Worlds", "She Loves Him Still", "Blue Water") and omissions ("Space Needle", "Joan Of Arc"). I wanted the "Rhiannon" songs and "Julia" to be included, but the track I would have staked my life on being present is "Sanctuary". I'm truly shocked she didn't record this one. She may be saving this for the Mac, but it just reeks of vintage Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers so I would have thought this would be a solo recording.

[jkmaletic]

You are an :angel:

Now to wait for Amazon (?) for the vinyl pre-order. Does anyone have any idea whether this photo book is digital with the deluxe itunes copy, or comes with the cd only? I don't want to buy digital if it comes with the cd.

Ditto.
There's no reason to buy it twice. Hopefully we get some clarification tomorrow.

[bombaysaffires]

well I for one am hoping this means the Rhiannon songs will be used for something amazing. I still think they would make a great basis for a show on Broadway (I mean, compared to a lot of the other stuff that's been made into shows)… or some sort of film … maybe the ballet Stevie always talked about. :shrug:

I'd love to think Joan of Arc would finally get done by Fleetwood Mac, but… who knows. Not sure what the story is with Julia, but Have No Heart surely is better than some of what made it-- and I'm thinking of you, Mabel Normand.

I have to think though that the Rhiannon songs are destined for something more. It could well be too that her present voice just doesn't do them the same justice.

[loverly13]

Ditto.
There's no reason to buy it twice. Hopefully we get some clarification tomorrow.

I bought the single just because I wanted it now, but I was so excited earlier that I decided to stay up and pre-order at midnight, despite having to be up for the gym and work at 5 a.m.... eek. But I'm not going to miss anything if I pre-order tomorrow morning, right? I mean, really, it's not going to sell out in the first six hours hahaha

[editme2]

Just bought The Dealer from iTunes.

Love it! Sounds great….Yes, Stevie is older and her voice is different, but it's still a strong, solid performance. Will it burn up the charts? No. Am I glad to have it? Yes!

[Jondalar]

I just want to be clear that I'm not complaining about the track-listing, just making observations, when I comment on the likes of "Mabel Normand" and perhaps something like "Hard Advice" (the title doesn't bode well). To be honest, I'm truly pleased about certain inclusions ("All The Beautiful Worlds", "She Loves Him Still", "Blue Water") and omissions ("Space Needle", "Joan Of Arc"). I wanted the "Rhiannon" songs and "Julia" to be included, but the track I would have staked my life on being present is "Sanctuary". I'm truly shocked she didn't record this one. She may be saving this for the Mac, but it just reeks of vintage Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers so I would have thought this would be a solo recording.

So much wasted space on this album:(

[BlueLight]

So much wasted space on this album:(

But how do we know this yet? Many fan favorites are on this album, along with some songs that surprised us, and some songs that we (maybe) haven't heard. For me, that's far more exciting than getting an album filled with expected songs. :shrug:

[sorcerer999]

Downloaded and listening now with a BIG smile on my face!

[loverly13]

it's all over the place someone even posted the clip on her instagram page talk about being late to your own party

Welp, nearly 11:30 EST/8:30 PST time and there's still nothing on the official Instagram, and 24KG is now available on iTunes to pre-order. *shakes head* "Late to your own party" is right...

[HoursAndHours]

Is there any kind of advantage for pre-ordering a digital download? It's not like they're going to run out. :shrug:

Not that I can tell with this one. Sometimes they'll give you an un-named bonus track or something only with the pre-order, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

well I for one am hoping this means the Rhiannon songs will be used for something amazing.

I think we'll get them at some point. I agree, it seems like she chose to leave them off, which means she probably still has some sort of plan for them.

the track I would have staked my life on being present is "Sanctuary". I'm truly shocked she didn't record this one. She may be saving this for the Mac, but it just reeks of vintage Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers so I would have thought this would be a solo recording.

I felt that way about Julia. I was absolutely sure that would be on this record.

[Jondalar]

I like the fact that the Dealer is classic rock in vein of Bella Donna

[jkmaletic]

I bought the single just because I wanted it now, but I was so excited earlier that I decided to stay up and pre-order at midnight, despite having to be up for the gym and work at 5 a.m.... eek. But I'm not going to miss anything if I pre-order tomorrow morning, right? I mean, really, it's not going to sell out in the first six hours hahaha

I just bought the single too (it's awesome), but I was more talking about buying the cd versus the itunes download of the entire album - especially if the cd comes with the photo booklet.

AND, how the heck do we order/get the vinyl version? :shrug:

[KarmaContestant]

Mabel Normand, old school demo.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNZH0ZU6zAk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

"your life passes before me like an unknown circumstance"

It's really not that bad. It needs a chorus...and a melody, but the lyrics and the story have a great song in them.

[loverly13]

I just bought the single too (it's awesome), but I was more talking about buying the cd versus the itunes download of the entire album - especially if the cd comes with the photo booklet.

AND, how the heck do we order/get the vinyl version? :shrug:

Oops. Yeah - same. I'd take the CD with the photo booklet over digital any day. As for the CD and vinyl... Amazon? They really should have said today where to go to pre-order physical copies so people could buy at midnight.

[jkmaletic]

Mabel Normand, old school demo.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNZH0ZU6zAk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

"your life passes before me like an unknown circumstance"

It's really not that bad. It needs a chorus...and a melody, but the lyrics and the story have a great song in them.

Wow- this one is really skeletal. It'll be interesting to see what they came up with to finish it.
(This video accompanying it is funny)

Jamie

[DauphineMarie]

Mabel Normand, old school demo.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/TNZH0ZU6zAk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

"your life passes before me like an unknown circumstance"

It's really not that bad. It needs a chorus...and a melody, but the lyrics and the story have a great song in them.

I have always loved Mabel Normand, and I have always loved the demo, and I am more than shocked that it made it on the album! :]:]

[mitzo]

The Dealer. I heard the snippet. Not for me. I am not going to preorder the album until I hear more snippets, I think.

[vivfox]

On Amazon it says:

24 Karat Gold - Songs From The Vault (Deluxe Version)
Stevie Nicks
Expected October 7, 2014 | Format: MP3

MP3??? WTF??? CD's aren't MP3's. Is this a digital only release on Amazon?

[DauphineMarie]

Good lord, I was kidding when I mentioned "Mabel Normand" in the other thread. :laugh:

I really, really loved that demo, so when it made it I almost had a heart attack! I never thought it would see the light of day, but I'm glad it did :]

[BlueLight]

On Amazon it says:

24 Karat Gold - Songs From The Vault (Deluxe Version)
Stevie Nicks
Expected October 7, 2014 | Format: MP3

MP3??? WTF??? CD's aren't MP3's. Is this a digital only release on Amazon?

I would be surprised if this were the case. The vinyl version isn't available yet on Amazon, either. I think we need to give it some time.

[RockALittle250]

I would be surprised if this were the case. The vinyl version isn't available yet on Amazon, either. I think we need to give it some time.

Exactly, and the 48 page CD version will cost more than $14.99 I'm sure. It appears this release will see a number of different formats.

[HoursAndHours]

On Amazon it says:

24 Karat Gold - Songs From The Vault (Deluxe Version)
Stevie Nicks
Expected October 7, 2014 | Format: MP3

MP3??? WTF??? CD's aren't MP3's. Is this a digital only release on Amazon?

So far, it appears that way. We know there's more versions coming though, so I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine we'll get the preorder info for hard copy from Instagram (someday, anyway). Stevie needs to have a chat about follow-through with whoever is in charge of her online presence. It's one thing to not post any updates on your networking site. It's another thing to direct all your fans to said site for an update about something you're trying to sell them and then not show up, not say anything, and not provide any info. That is bad business right there.

[J.Miller]

I just did the preorder on iTunes . And listened to The Dealer. I have a feeling that when I get all of the songs they will sound good together. Now waiting on information on the vinyl release.

[bombaysaffires]

So far, it appears that way. We know there's more versions coming though, so I wouldn't worry too much. I imagine we'll get the preorder info for hard copy from Instagram (someday, anyway). Stevie needs to have a chat about follow-through with whoever is in charge of her online presence. It's one thing to not post any updates on your networking site. It's another thing to direct all your fans to said site for an update about something you're trying to sell them and then not show up, not say anything, and not provide any info. That is bad business right there.

well except how many of us downloaded the song and preordered the album anyway?? so there's no big penalty to them:distress:

[HoursAndHours]

well except how many of us downloaded the song and preordered the album anyway?? so there's no big penalty to them:distress:

Hopefully, someone will recognize that this happened because we're insane, and not because of their marketing. :laugh:

[gypsyrock]

You have made my day! Im sooo excited. :blob2:

[mylittledemon]

I just did the preorder on iTunes . And listened to The Dealer.

Hmm. Well... there's a track I'll be skipping. :(

[editme2]

Just FYI: 24 Karat Gold is number 53 on the iTunes Rock chart (as of 12:45 a.m. Tuesday).

[sorcerer999]

Hmm. Well... there's a track I'll be skipping. :(

THERE HE IS!!! :xoxo:

[StreetAngel86]

Well...that just means she'll have to record "Songs From The Vault ~ Part II" sometime in the next 10 years. :nod:

we need a new discussion thread which pertains to this
what songs were excluded that need to be on part deux :D

[StreetAngel86]

ps - is this new? it wasn't on my itunes this morning


it's purdy

[Jondalar]

we need a new discussion thread which pertains to this
what songs were excluded that need to be on part deux :D

Basically all my favorites.

[StreetAngel86]

Basically all my favorites.

don't worry, none of my faves are there either
except blue water and atbw
though maybe the last 2 tracks will be bonus tracks on the record?
and they will be Space freaking Needle and Something bloody Exquisite :D


im going to make my Vault II tracklist tomorrow for my personal pleasure :laugh:

[Dodfather]

Not being a huge demo collector (I have some but am a bit of a sound quality/finished song nazi) even I have managed to find some of my favourites on the tracklist. the others I'll just take and appreciate as new songs. I'm impressed with The dealer so far but think that the album will have far better moments - hurrah!

By the way, can someone remind me when we can order physical copies of the album, such as the fancypants vinyl and cd/book versions?

[gldstwmn]

Good lord, I was kidding when I mentioned "Mabel Normand" in the other thread. :laugh:

Be careful what you wish for. :laugh:

[HoursAndHours]

Basically all my favorites.

Well, maybe you can at least enjoy the finished product in October. At least you don't have to turn in your demo collection for this. ;)

[gldstwmn]

Could Carousel be At The Fair? :shrug:

That's what I was thinking. :nod:

[gldstwmn]

Doubt it, it is a track from 89' the tracks here are from 69-87'

Stevie herself referred to the song as "At The Fair" at the Ohio State Fair in 1994.

And Carousel is not one word in at the fair, or any stevie demo we know

It may not have been copyrighted until '89. But I've seen Carousel on many demo lists but never heard it so who knows? At The Fair is a pretty short demo if I recall. So Carousel could be part of the finished lyrics? I don't know. But I love all this speculating.

[gldstwmn]

A CAROUSEL IS A WHEEL THAT SPINS SO MAYBE "CAROUSEL" IS "SPINNING WHEEL"!

I'm just kidding. What a fun time to be a fan!

Christian? Oh Jeebus. My poor old heart can't take this! :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

And you're right that what she didn't choose is interesting. Because then everyone will have to make two columns and decide if she didn't choose it because she rejected it for good or because she's saving it for later. With the Rhiannon songs, based on what she's been saying for decades now, she's saving them, for sure. With other songs, as was discussed withSpace Needle, that song is never going to be released. It's over. Fergeddaboutit.

Michele
If they ever make a biopic about Kurt Cobain that should show up in it. :nod: Her friendship with Dave Grohl could pave the way. Space Needle is a great song. But yeah, it"s a hard fit.

[gldstwmn]

If there were ever a song to be rejected for good, that list could include Cathouse Blues and Mabel Normand. Much to everyone's surprise, they've been recorded. :laugh:

:laugh: I wonder if she stayed true to the original or if these are new and improved versions a la Secret Love?

[gldstwmn]

Oh you're right. And Stevie sang on it with her at a show. Believe me, no Vanessa Carlton song better be on this album.

Michele

Right? I thought we discussed this? No more covers!

[HoursAndHours]

:laugh: I wonder if she stayed true to the original or if these are new and improved versions a la Secret Love?

I like Cathouse Blues, and I really can't see her changing the idea of that song too much. There might be new verses/instrumentation, but I think it will still basically be the same song. I expect that Mabel Normand must have received a grand restructuring, though. It's so anti-cohesive in it's current state.

[gldstwmn]

And where is "Amber"??? :]

In the vault where she belongs... :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Has "Hard Advice" ever been mentioned (pre-todays tracklisting)

Yes. It's been discussed vis a vis "Tom Petty gives a songwriting pep talk." However it was widely assumed "That Made Me Stronger" was Hard Advice. I guess not.

[gldstwmn]

Not to be a Debbie-downer, I'm not very happy. No rhiannon songs, Julia , Joan of arc, space needle or love u enough or Have No Heart. Instead Mabel Normans which is not even a song and Starshine. And if Hard Advice is what I think it is then gross. Only a couple songs I liked made it on the a album

Sorry people, feeling down

Once you listen to it you"ll fall in love like we always do. Buck up little buckaroo! :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

I must have heard the "Mabel Normand" demo many years ago and just not retained the memory, but recently dug it up again due to a recent discussion on this forum. Well I couldn't believe what I was hearing and had to turn it off before it was finished because it truly was an assault to the ears. I'm just wondering what must have been going through Stevie's and Dave's minds when they chose to record it? Could we have just heard an embryonic demo and perhaps it did eventually evolve into an actual song? Is it more than just a coke-fuelled rant?

She's natural in her beauty... ;)

[gldstwmn]

No it sucks she goes from talking about Mable Normand and then makes the song about herself. Pretty Gross.

As do most Stevie songs? Seriously do you need Prozac? :laugh:

[gldstwmn]

Yep. And it sounds great. She sounds older, but it's still rock solid. :]

I'm missing the Hammond B3. :shrug:

[gldstwmn]

Hopefully, someone will recognize that this happened because we're insane, and not because of their marketing. :laugh:

Ding! That pretty much sums it up.

[HoursAndHours]

I'm missing the Hammond B3. :shrug:

I hadn't noticed, so obviously it doesn't bother me much, but you're right - the organ is gone.

[gldstwmn]

ps - is this new? it wasn't on my itunes this morning


it's purdy

Oooh! I wonder if that is from the photo shoot a few years back where she donned the feathered headdress?

[AnthonyMI]

I'm missing the Hammond B3. :shrug:

It is in the beginning and deep deep down in the mix during the chorus.

[Artemis]

Only odd inclusion is Twisted. I cannot fathom that one at all. Am I on crack, or wasn't that song mentioned loads of times in the run up to The Dance as being the reason she felt she could sing with Lindsey again? Unless it's a different song with the same title maybe?

YAY for All The Beautiful Worlds, If You Were My Love and Watch Chain. ATBW and Watch Chain are just instantly classic Stevie songs. While IYWML... I hope they've gone for the epic Mirage demo feel rather than the complete and utter turd that is the SA demo.

[louielouie2000]

Only odd inclusion is Twisted. I cannot fathom that one at all. Am I on crack, or wasn't that song mentioned loads of times in the run up to The Dance as being the reason she felt she could sing with Lindsey again? Unless it's a different song with the same title maybe?

Now there is a possibility. After all, Madonna recorded 2 different songs titled "Forbidden Love."

[HoursAndHours]

Only odd inclusion is Twisted. I cannot fathom that one at all. Am I on crack, or wasn't that song mentioned loads of times in the run up to The Dance as being the reason she felt she could sing with Lindsey again? Unless it's a different song with the same title maybe?

YAY for All The Beautiful Worlds, If You Were My Love and Watch Chain. ATBW and Watch Chain are just instantly classic Stevie songs. While IYWML... I hope they've gone for the epic Mirage demo feel rather than the complete and utter turd that is the SA demo.

Before the tracklist turned up, I thought that *maybe* the "song that had been played live" could have been Sweet Girl, since there was only a studio demo and a live release.

Twisted is a better song that Sweet Girl, imo. I'm really surprised it's on this record, but I can kinda see how it might fit musically, if she worked out the version from the Enchanted Tour. Despite this being a "demos" album, I guess she went for a musical theme too, and Twisted could sorta fit that theme. At least that's what I'm hoping, because it means this album could be as good as BD.

[gldstwmn]

It is in the beginning and deep deep down in the mix during the chorus.

And I'm off to listen again!

[HoursAndHours]

And I'm off to listen again!

I *love* the "all ooouuuutt" part at about 2:22. :D

[GypsySorcerer]

In the vault where she belongs... :laugh:

:laugh::laugh:;)

I'm very, very happy about "She Loves Him Still" and "If You Were My Love." I'm hoping "Lady" is "China Doll," though it's unlikely.

[HoursAndHours]

I wonder if the bonus tracks on the Warner pre-order are the same ones as iTunes and Amazon.

[gldstwmn]

:laugh::laugh:;)

I'm very, very happy about "She Loves Him Still" and "If You Were My Love." I'm hoping "Lady" is "China Doll," though it's unlikely.

I don't think she'd even try China Doll at this point. It's so high. It would be great if the original demo came out on some retrospective. It's so beautiful just like it is.

[ViscountViktor]

I'd never heard Cathouse Blues before, but I've listened to it now, and I think it's great! I love Stevie's early voice, just natural power, not drug infused vibrato.

[Phil]

I'm quite pleased with "The Dealer" and also the album track-listing, which is actually better than I had a right to expect. I also like the album cover, but I have just one (minor) gripe - that hat??? It's so dodgy and as someone else commented, it just reeks of Dolly Parton circa late 1980's. If only it had been airbrushed out.

[kathy1]

can't wait to get the cd. I am getting it for Christmas.

[AnthonyMI]

In the vault where she belongs... :laugh:

With Lilly Girl too!

[HoursAndHours]

I finally nabbed a copy of Knockin' On Doors. If that does turn out to be Lady, I don't think I'll have any complaints at all. What a great song.

can't wait to get the cd. I am getting it for Christmas.

Talk about a wait, but Merry Christmas, lol. :)

[kathy1]

And I'm off to listen again!

what do you think?

[gldstwmn]

what do you think?

Other than missing Stan Lynch's drums from the Bella Donna version I think this is a fine version of a great old song. Stan played the daylights out of this song much like Roy Bittan on Julia.

[teedeerocks]

I'm so happy and excited about this album,I really am,but...........I WANT MY SPACE NEEDLE and CHINA DOLL!!!!!!!!:sorry::distress:

[pattyfan]

I'm so happy and excited about this album,I really am,but...........I WANT MY SPACE NEEDLE and CHINA DOLL!!!!!!!!:sorry::distress:

I love both of those songs too, but, here is how I look at it. They are both pretty "done" demos, with very good production. So you actually do have them, and a lot of people (most casual fans) don't, which makes them even more special. :)

Kevin

[markolas]

China Doll would've been nice. I'd hoped for Julia and the Rhiannon songs but I can see Stevie saving those for future projects. I'm pretty happy with the tracklist, with the exception of Twisted. I'd rather have a studio version of Gold and Braid, if sh was going to redo something that already had an official release.

[GavinBrown]

I wonder if "Lady" is China Doll?:shrug:

[markolas]

Nah, I'm pretty sure Lady= Knocking on Doors.

[Johnny Stew]

I'm pretty happy with the tracklist, with the exception of Twisted. I'd rather have a studio version of Gold and Braid, if sh was going to redo something that already had an official release.

"Twisted" is a total head-scratcher to me. The studio version with Lindsey is pretty damn perfect, and we even have the demo version for color & contrast. I just don't see the point of recording it yet again.

That said, I'm very happy with the track-listing. There's a great variety of beloved fan favorites and unknown songs (well, at least unknown by these titles). Plus, "She Loves Him Still" is on there. And, quite frankly, I would have lived with a 74-minute version of "Lily Girl" just to get "She Loves Him."

[louielouie2000]

I'd hoped for Julia and the Rhiannon songs but I can see Stevie saving those for future projects. I'm pretty happy with the tracklist, with the exception of Twisted. I'd rather have a studio version of Gold and Braid, if sh was going to redo something that already had an official release.

I'm thinking Julia sounded too musically similar to the Dealer for it to be included? :confused: As an interesting side note, it turns out the entire story behind the movie Julia was a fabrication- the author claimed it was based on her life. I wonder if that's why Stevie has never touched the song? :shrug:

Yeah, the inclusion of Twisted is absolutely baffling. First it was on the Twister soundtrack with Lindsey & it was brilliant. Then Stevie released the demo version on Enchanted. And now we're getting it yet again? What kind of sense does that make?

[sodascouts]

Yeah, the inclusion of Twisted is absolutely baffling. First it was on the Twister soundtrack with Lindsey & it was brilliant. Then Stevie released the demo version on Enchanted. And now we're getting it yet again? What kind of sense does that make?


None at all. I respect the decision to include "Mabel Normand" more than I do the decision to include a THIRD version of "Twisted." The good news is that the positive aspects of this setlist far outweigh the negatives.

[gldstwmn]

"Twisted" is a total head-scratcher to me. The studio version with Lindsey is pretty damn perfect, and we even have the demo version for color & contrast. I just don't see the point of recording it yet again.
That said, I'm very happy with the track-listing. There's a great variety of beloved fan favorites and unknown songs (well, at least unknown by these titles). Plus, "She Loves Him Still" is on there. And, quite frankly, I would have lived with a 74-minute version of "Lily Girl" just to get "She Loves Him."

I guess there's a message that she wants to make sure everyone gets from Twisted. I'm curious to see what arrangement she went with.
And as far as Lily Girl come on now, Kenny G is not that bad. :laugh:

[saradorna]

Nah, I'm pretty sure Lady= Knocking on Doors.

Well I thought it was China Doll but I just listen to Knocking on Doors here: http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/MP3/knockinondoors.mp3 and it could be...

Isn't buckinghamnicks.net Sodascouts website?

[Jondalar]

I'm thinking Julia sounded too musically similar to the Dealer for it to be included? :confused: As an interesting side note, it turns out the entire story behind the movie Julia was a fabrication- the author claimed it was based on her life. I wonder if that's why Stevie has never touched the song? :shrug:

Yeah, the inclusion of Twisted is absolutely baffling. First it was on the Twister soundtrack with Lindsey & it was brilliant. Then Stevie released the demo version on Enchanted. And now we're getting it yet again? What kind of sense does that make?

Julia is not a total fabrication, but it never happened to Lillian Hellman. It happened to a lady who had the same lawyer as Lillian Hellman. It is said she heard that story from her lawyer and then stole it. She wrote the Chidren's Hour too, which was a good movie.

[sodascouts]

Well I thought it was China Doll but I just listen to Knocking on Doors here: http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/MP3/knockinondoors.mp3 and it could be...

Isn't buckinghamnicks.net Sodascouts website?

Yep, for what it's worth!

[saradorna]

Yep, for what it's worth!

Well all the demos are there and Knocking on Doors is not in youtube but you got it! So Thanks~:nod:

[FMlex]

So I know there are a lot of demo bootlegs out there. Now that we know the exact track listing of 24 Karat, it would be fun to do the same listing with the old demos. Then, when the new album is officially out, we can all compare and contract old recording vs new recording.

Of course, I'm not talented enough to upload my bootlegs but just a thought!! :p

[welcomechris]

So I know there are a lot of demo bootlegs out there. Now that we know the exact track listing of 24 Karat, it would be fun to do the same listing with the old demos. Then, when the new album is officially out, we can all compare and contract old recording vs new recording.

Of course, I'm not talented enough to upload my bootlegs but just a thought!! :p

Well on My blog I posted the original demos for the 24K album

Here it is on here tho

Starshine
The Dealer
Mabel Normand
Blue Water
Cathouse Blues
24 Karat Gold
All the Beautiful Worlds
Belle Fleur
If You Were My Love
She Still Loves Him
Watch Chain

https://www.mediafire.com/#a2lump1xu4z5y

Twisted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdkk-pI-Jck)
Twisted (Demo) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrWb0MoeH1I)

[HoursAndHours]

Nah, I'm pretty sure Lady= Knocking on Doors.

I hope so. After finally hearing that demo, I'm kinda in love with it, and really hope that's what it turns out to be. :o

[markolas]

I'm kind of fascinated by the inclusion of Carousel and Hard Advice, two demos which we've had the titles of for years, but have never been circulated.

[HoursAndHours]

I'm kind of fascinated by the inclusion of Carousel and Hard Advice, two demos which we've had the titles of for years, but have never been circulated.

Me too, especially for Carousel. I remember looking for that song on YouTube fairly recently and thinking I must have confused it with Castaway or something.

I spent some time listening to the clip of I Don't Care. I am convinced that I know the melody and the rhythm from somewhere, but I can't place it...

[sorcerer999]

I'm kind of fascinated by the inclusion of Carousel and Hard Advice, two demos which we've had the titles of for years, but have never been circulated.

ME TOO!!! And add "I Don't Care" to that list. We're essentially getting 3 BRAND NEW Stevie songs with these. Yes, they may be old demos but they're brand new to all of us.

It's a bit of a flip flop, isn't it? For the past few solo and FM records, we've always gotten a slew of brand new songs plus 3 songs from the vault that we had heard prior...and now we're getting a slew of re-recorded vault songs, already circulated and 3 brand new uncirculated vault songs.

I might be more excited about these 3 "new" songs than the other previously circulated 13. :nod:

[HoursAndHours]

ME TOO!!! And add "I Don't Care" to that list. We're essentially getting 3 BRAND NEW Stevie songs with these. Yes, they may be old demos but they're brand new to all of us.

It's a bit of a flip flop, isn't it? For the past few solo and FM records, we've always gotten a slew of brand new songs plus 3 songs from the vault that we had heard prior...and now we're getting a slew of re-recorded vault songs, already circulated and 3 brand new uncirculated vault songs.

I might be more excited about these 3 "new" songs than the other previously circulated 13. :nod:

I believe we will discover we know I Don't Care, and potentially all feel like idiots for not recognizing it. :laugh:

[StreetAngel86]

I spent some time listening to the clip of I Don't Care. I am convinced that I know the melody and the rhythm from somewhere, but I can't place it...

i know and it's been annoying me since we 1st heard it.
it reminds me of the Animals' It's My Life :D
but a Stevie demo too that I just for the life of me cannot place
i just wish it was Baby Doll but i suspect it aint :distress::laugh:

[Jondalar]

I was really upset when I heard the trace listing., then i heard the Dealer and I feel much better.

[HoursAndHours]

i know and it's been annoying me since we 1st heard it.
it reminds me of the Animals' It's My Life :D
but a Stevie demo too that I just for the life of me cannot place
i just wish it was Baby Doll but i suspect it aint :distress::laugh:

Well, Baby Doll is one of the songs I think it could be. Other candidates are What Has Rock & Roll Ever Done For You, and maybe, maybe a seriously ramped up version of Mixdown, but I think it's one of the other two. :shrug:

I was really upset when I heard the trace listing., then i heard the Dealer and I feel much better.

Yeah, you were not happy at all. Glad you're feeling better about it now, though. :nod:

[bombaysaffires]

I hope so. After finally hearing that demo, I'm kinda in love with it, and really hope that's what it turns out to be. :o

her voice was soooo amazingly flexible at the time she recorded this demo… she could go straight from low to high and smooth to raspy on a dime. Her voice today can not do that, so I'm curious to see what they've done.

[HoursAndHours]

her voice was soooo amazingly flexible at the time she recorded this demo… she could go straight from low to high and smooth to raspy on a dime. Her voice today can not do that, so I'm curious to see what they've done.

Falsetto + backup harmonies stacked on the low octave. That's what I'm hoping for, anyway. I think she can easily pull off the notes with 2 octaves between if she uses her falsetto, and it's appropriately supported by Sharon and Lori.

[bombaysaffires]

Falsetto + backup harmonies stacked on the low octave. That's what I'm hoping for, anyway. I think she can easily pull off the notes with 2 octaves between if she uses her falsetto, and it's appropriately supported by Sharon and Lori.

hope so!!

and of course she's so much more nasal now.

She Loves Him Still is the one that has me worried. The demo was just soooo….I dunno. the raw emotion of it was killer. I hope it hasn't been vanilla'ed out. Fingers crossed.

[sorcerer999]

I must say, regarding the track list, when we initially got the "official" listing (sans "Turnstile 69", thank God :laugh:) for the first few days, part of me was a tad disappointed (not gonna lie) that only 4 songs from my wishlist made the cut. Then I actually REALIZED that FOUR of my wishlist songs MADE THE CUT!!! And I scolded myself for being bummed and felt lucky that these 4 songs were even recorded in the first place. 4 songs I've adored for the longest time are going to be fully formed songs now. 4 songs is A LOT, compared to one song off my wishlist for IYD, and one song from my wishlist for SYW.

Today as I was looking over the tracklisting for "24 Karat Gold", thinking how long we've had 85% of the demos, I realized that all these tracks are STEVIE's favorites. And that's probably what's the most important thing about this "love letter to the fans". These are all songs that SHE loves. These are all the songs that SHE wants to share. And all of a sudden, it dawned on me ~ when it comes to her body of work, when it comes to her longevity as an artist, when it comes to the stories from these demos in which only we (as fanatics) have been privy, this is actually the PERFECT TRACK LISTING!

We've got 1 Buckingham Nicks era demo, 3 from Tusk, 4 from Bella Donna, 1 from Wild Heart, 2 from Rock A Little, and 2 pre TISL demos. Not too sure about which eras that "Lady", "Carousel" and "I Don't Care" come from.

Anyway, it's very well rounded. Most of her early Fleetwood Mac work and early solo career are represented in this set...and that's what makes this whole project exciting! That's what gets me pumped up and counting the days! It's been said a million times, but it sure is a THRILLING time to be a Stevie fan!

And like I always say (a million times)...everything I post is merely my humble opinion, of course. :D