Prediction: New Tour or New Album? [Archive]

TrueFaith77

05-13-2011, 02:26 PM

Will the Mac go on tour or record an album first?

http://music.msn.com/music/article.a...7058&GT1=28102

She tells Perez Hilton, "When [my new] album and Lindsey's album come to a stop then Fleetwood Mac will gather again and we'll either make another record or we won't and we'll just go on tour."

TrueFaith77

05-13-2011, 02:28 PM

I meant to put this in the Rumours thread. :sorry:

KarmaContestant

05-13-2011, 03:24 PM

I voted they will tour first. The money talks louder than the art, unfortunately.

Artemis

05-13-2011, 03:35 PM

KarmaContestant

05-13-2011, 03:44 PM

FM77

05-13-2011, 05:44 PM

They should do an album but it takes them so damned long that I think they will just go out and tour. There is no way they could do an album and tour in the same year...an album next year would push a tour to 2013 at the earliest.

vivfox

05-13-2011, 05:45 PM

FM77

05-13-2011, 05:48 PM

The problem is their age. They cancelled a few shows the last tour...that will not get better as they get older. Without Christine, Stevie has a lot more singing to do with FM and her voice just isn't built for that any more. I'd wait longer too if Christine would commit.

louielouie2000

05-13-2011, 05:55 PM

My guess is they'll make another album first. They've already done the cash grab with the Unleashed tour. They said they needed to play some shows live to see if they can stomach working together again. Now they've done that, and everyone made it out alive.

Not to mention Stevie and Lindsey both say that after working together on the song Soldier's Angel from Stevie's latest album, that they are closer than ever. I think that alone is a good indication we'll see a new album first. S&L enjoyed working together on the song greatly. Stevie said she just had the time of her life recording new material for her latest solo album, and doesn't care if it sells. She seems to be in the right mind frame. I think she's the one who this project hinges on.

Lindsey now fully admits he'll do the Fleetwood Mac thing anytime to subsidize his solo works. Mick & John just like playing, period. It all depends on if Stevie's happy coming off her In Your Dreams stint. If she's still creatively charged and optimistic, we'll get another album. And I'm hoping this will be the case. :thumbsup:

elle

05-13-2011, 06:38 PM

i never saw FM live, and wouldn't mind seeing them tour sooner rather than later, but i really hope next year will not be a recap of 2009 (tour but no album).

so for me personally, it would be ideal if they start working on the new album, take a few months to tour (fall 2012 could work), and then continue working on the album - since it takes them so long. so i won't vote, b/c they should do both at the same time!:cool:

maybe w/ DS at the helm / keeping peace in the house they can finish new album in a year?:p and we get tweet-updates about it as it's going on...

anyway, i don't want any of that to start too soon - i'd like LB to have a nice proper tour for SWS first, not just a quicky 2-month mini-tour like for GOS, cut short b/c of Unleashed.

xxxmx

05-13-2011, 07:05 PM

maybe w/ DS at the helm / keeping peace in the house they can finish new album in a year?:p and we get tweet-updates about it as it's going on...

I would like to see this, but I can't imagine Lindsey relinquishing complete control over the creative process.

I really liked Say You Will - I probably reach for it and Tusk more than all of the other s combined - so I would love to have another "mature" album of real material, sans filler songs. They both seem to be in the groove to produce that at this point. I didn't bother with the Unleashed tour, and I won't bother with another cash grab - even if they dust off one or two old gems.

elle

05-13-2011, 07:17 PM

I would like to see this, but I can't imagine Lindsey relinquishing complete control over the creative process.

I really liked Say You Will - I probably reach for it and Tusk more than all of the other s combined - so I would love to have another "mature" album of real material, sans filler songs. They both seem to be in the groove to produce that at this point.

i don't think LB would need to relinquish most of the creative process control; i'm envisioning it as DS/LB producing team, somewhat like it used to be KC/RD/LB. DS seems like the kind of person who knows how to get people to actually enjoy working together, and how far he can push (or maybe i'm just way too optimistic:lol:). when i read SN's words about her current "incredible peace" with LB after recording SA, i see DS's hand in that. Dave was there for that recording, remember? he produced it, and filmed the whole thing apparently.

i liked SYW too. you and i are apparently few of the rare people here who do.

louielouie2000

05-13-2011, 07:18 PM

I would like to see this, but I can't imagine Lindsey relinquishing complete control over the creative process.

Lindsey has said some in the past few years that if there were to be another FM record, that somebody else would have to take over production duties. That he has a family, and he can't give the amount of time which production would entail.

For what it's worth, I can't see him actually holding to that, though. He likes creative control too much. He may start out being okay with an outside producer, but I'm guessing the album wouldn't end that way. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong, though. He's started saying a lot recently that he will always go back to FM to subsidize his solo career, even if it's just to tour with them. Maybe he's finally become more pragmatic in his approach to the band? :shrug:

ontheEdgeof17

05-13-2011, 07:56 PM

For what it's worth

Pun or no pun?

I voted new album. I think both Stevie and Lindsey have their creative juices flowing again, which will spill over into fantastic new songs they want to share. Maybe they should just complete the circle with the final album: 'Truths'.

MacShadowsBall

05-13-2011, 09:03 PM

Right now, for Stevie, it's all about momentum. If Fleetwood Mac can have an album out this time next year that's great. However if they wait 5 years(The Dance until Say You Will) that creative momentum will be lost as will the desire of FM/Stevie fans and the buying public in general.

I do, though, find it strange that Stevie and Lindsey have remained busy since Say You Will. I don't know exactly what Mick and John have been doing. :shrug:

They should definitely bring in a producer and consider adding a new member:eek: or something along those lines.

And since this is the Fleetwood Mac forum and not the Stevie forum...If Mick, John, and Lindsey want another Fleetwood Mac they should do it, regardless of what Stevie wants.

holidayroad

05-13-2011, 11:29 PM

They should definitely bring in a producer and consider adding a new member:eek: or something along those lines.

And since this is the Fleetwood Mac forum and not the Stevie forum...If Mick, John, and Lindsey want another Fleetwood Mac they should do it, regardless of what Stevie wants.

Even though a lot of people will disagree, I do feel that LB, MF, and JM should do an album as Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie doesn't want to join them, then that's her loss.
I don't feel like they should get a new member, though.

Musicman408

05-14-2011, 10:39 AM

I'm only really excited for this if they do a new album!!!

McTrouble

05-14-2011, 10:58 AM

I'm going to be an optimist. And go for Album. I think it's definitely on Stevie's mind; why else would she have wanted Lindsey to save all those amazing songs for Fleetwood Mac? I think working with Dave has both given her a creative bug, and a hunger to make more, and also it's showed her that making an album doesn't have to be a tedious, awful, depressing experience; and they can actually go and have fun.

I get the impression they all feel its time for an album.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Lindsey has kept some songs back for a Mac album - and both he and Stevie are prolific in their songwriting anyway and are probably scribbling away as we're wondering!

McTrouble

05-14-2011, 11:03 AM

Even though a lot of people will disagree, I do feel that LB, MF, and JM should do an album as Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie doesn't want to join them, then that's her loss.
I don't feel like they should get a new member, though.

That would work for me - but I bet it will never happen, Stevie wouldn't be able to stand it being without her so I reckon it will be the 4 of them in the end!

bluefox4000

05-14-2011, 11:03 AM

I just hope a new album wouldn't be like SYW. That left such a bad taste in my mouth.

Mick

Silver Springs

05-14-2011, 11:06 AM

While I do believe that Fleetwood Mac would lose something without Stevie, as long as we have Lindsey's element they should still produce a quality album.

I just hope a new album wouldn't be like SYW. That left such a bad taste in my mouth.

Mick

See, I always adored Say You Will. Aside from Greatest Hits, it was my gateway album to the world of the Mac. It must have been special to make me look deeper into their music than I tend to with other bands I have a slight interest in. That must count for something, with me at least. I don't mind if other people like it or not. I just know that I love it :D

bluefox4000

05-14-2011, 11:13 AM

It's amazing that SYW did that for you. I love stories like that. Me, I was 18 and already deep into the Mac. So SYW was a big letdown.

But still I love your story:thumbsup:

Mick

TrueFaith77

05-14-2011, 12:05 PM

Say You Will is the best American album of the 00s.

To put that in perspective, TITN and Mirage wouldn't even rate for the 80s.

michelej1

05-14-2011, 10:07 PM

That would work for me - but I bet it will never happen, Stevie wouldn't be able to stand it being without her so I reckon it will be the 4 of them in the end!

Think so? I imagine she could stand those men working together without her. Good riddance, I'd imagine she'd say. Although I don't think she would like them calling themselves FM, if they were alone. If they called themselves "The Men of Mac" that would work. She'd probably be glad to have them out of her hair.

What I don't think she could ever stand in a million years is them working with Christine without her. Michele

McTrouble

05-15-2011, 05:15 AM

Think so? I imagine she could stand those men working together without her. Good riddance, I'd imagine she'd say. Although I don't think she would like them calling themselves FM, if they were alone. If they called themselves "The Men of Mac" that would work. She'd probably be glad to have them out of her hair.

What I don't think she could ever stand in a million years is them working with Christine without her. Michele

That's for sure!

WildHearted

05-15-2011, 08:53 AM

I think if they wanted to do something without Stevie she'd just chuckle and be like 'suit yourself..' However, as someone else mentioned, if Christine was involved that's a whole 'nother story. But really I think they all know they need Stevie, not to make a great album necessarily, but for the commercial wellbeing of the project. And even aside from that, I don't get the hunch that they have any desire to do a project without her, period. Lindsey already has his solo work which he could easily get John and Mick to do stuff on, the whole point of FM is the <strike>five</strike> four of them together.

But I think Stevie DOES want to do another Mac album - she is, after all, the one who has been mentioning it (although, I DO think her comments are arbitrary and the press is just running with them... I certainly don't think any definite plans have been made, as all of these articles seem to imply). There's no reason not to, apparently she and Lindsey are on great terms [right now] and she keeps talking about wanting to go back into the studio and record asap.

Fleetwoodmark

05-15-2011, 10:50 AM

I voted they will tour first. The money talks louder than the art, unfortunately.

When commerce is robust ;)

I hope they do another last kick ass album. I have a sneaky suspicion Christine will come back because she has had long enough out of the fold. I feel her decision will be based on how much the four want her back, It will take alot of persuasion.

TrueFaith77

05-15-2011, 11:17 AM

Three years is pretty short between tours. so maybe album first unless that rumours reissuerepackage gets released. wow. What a shame that 2009 special edition of Rumours wasn't available in time for the 2011 Glee episode.

louielouie2000

05-15-2011, 12:43 PM

I hope they do another last kick ass album. I have a sneaky suspicion Christine will come back because she has had long enough out of the fold. I feel her decision will be based on how much the four want her back, It will take alot of persuasion.

That's the thing, though... do spotlight hogs Buckingham and Nicks really want her back? Do you think they'll even try after her bowing out of Say You Will? Lindsey kept using the saying "burned bridges" after Say You Will after all.

MacShadowsBall

05-15-2011, 02:36 PM

That's the thing, though... do spotlight hogs Buckingham and Nicks really want her back?

Exactly! Christine's leaving opened up the setlist to include more of Stevie and Lindsey's material instead of each just getting to do what 7 or so songs. As with both album/tour there would be smaller pieces of the pie for the other four if Christine would return for anything.

Of course, the argument could be made that the pie itself would be bigger if an reunited Fleetwood Mac were to make another album or tour again.

michelej1

05-15-2011, 02:45 PM

That's the thing, though... do spotlight hogs Buckingham and Nicks really want her back? Do you think they'll even try after her bowing out of Say You Will? Lindsey kept using the saying "burned bridges" after Say You Will after all.

But she wouldn't be on stage with them, unless they did one DVD taping. Other than that, they wouldn't be touring with her, so they could both have the stage spotlight still. However, in the imaginary world where Christine returned for a tour, Stevie would easily concede part of her set to Christine and Lindsey wouldn't have to. Christine never got in the way of Lindsey having a 16 minute Not That Funny, if that is what he wanted. And I think she actually likes being there for ISA.

Ha. He does like to say she burned her bridges. He is obsessed with saying that. It's not even natural. And in 2003-2004 he loved to say 30% more testosterone with her gone. But the way he took jabs at Christine back then made me think he RESENTED her not being there, more than he rejoiced in it.

Michele

bluefox4000

05-15-2011, 02:45 PM

WildHearted

05-15-2011, 02:58 PM

But she wouldn't be on stage with them, unless they did one DVD taping. Other than that, they wouldn't be touring with her, so they could both have the stage spotlight still. However, in the imaginary world where Christine returned for a tour, Stevie would easily concede part of her set to Christine and Lindsey wouldn't have to. Christine never got in the way of Lindsey having a 16 minute Not That Funny, if that is what he wanted. And I think she actually likes being there for ISA.

Ha. He does like to say she burned her bridges. He is obsessed with saying that. It's not even natural. And in 2003-2004 he loved to say 30% more testosterone with her gone. But the way he took jabs at Christine back then made me think he RESENTED her not being there, more than he rejoiced in it.

Michele

There was also that comment about how they had to wait 25 years to do what they really wanted to do.

TrueFaith77

05-15-2011, 03:03 PM

There was also that comment about how they had to wait 25 years to do what they really wanted to do.

Yes, I suspect and I accept and I applaud that THAT is and will be the artistic impetus for the Mac going forward.

JesusRumours

05-16-2011, 08:06 AM

I am sure it will really happen, both, an album and a tour. But, will it be their last? :shrug:

McTrouble

05-16-2011, 09:35 AM

I really don't see Chris coming back for a tour. I just don't think she's into it anymore. I think she earned her nice retirement. Not sure how she's feels about studio work. I'm also really not into another Mac album without Chris. Cause SYW was NOT a Mac album.:distress:

Mick

I am really curious to know what it is you don't like about SYW.

You are such a Lindsey fan, like me, and I really think Lindsey shines on SYW - it is up there among my favourite FM albums (but only because of his stuff on it). Is it the absence of Christine, or Stevie's songs you don't like?

What do you feel about Lindsey's songs on SYW? Would you have felt any different if it was just his stuff on a solo album?

As I said, just curious is all!

:wavey:

bluefox4000

05-16-2011, 09:49 AM

I am really curious to know what it is you don't like about SYW.

You are such a Lindsey fan, like me, and I really think Lindsey shines on SYW - it is up there among my favourite FM albums (but only because of his stuff on it). Is it the absence of Christine, or Stevie's songs you don't like?

What do you feel about Lindsey's songs on SYW? Would you have felt any different if it was just his stuff on a solo album?

As I said, just curious is all!

:wavey:

My Problem with SYW...is it's not a Mac Album. It's 2 solo albums mushed together. The Lindsey songs....while brilliant are just taken from the GOS bootleg with Stevie's vocals pasted in. There's none of the Mac magic. It just so lazy and half assed. I know that's harsh. at the time it was released, I felt, as a fan, slapped in the face. That whole project made me just angry. it's sitting on my shelf. untouched going on 3 years now.:( Oh and stevie was just poop on that record.....for the most part. lol

Hoped that helped:thumbsup:

Mick

McTrouble

05-16-2011, 10:16 AM

My Problem with SYW...is it's not a Mac Album. It's 2 solo albums mushed together. The Lindsey songs....while brilliant are just taken from the GOS bootleg with Stevie's vocals pasted in. There's none of the Mac magic. It just so lazy and half assed. I know that's harsh. at the time it was released, I felt, as a fan, slapped in the face. That whole project made me just angry. it's sitting on my shelf. untouched going on 3 years now.:( Oh and stevie was just poop on that record.....for the most part. lol

Hoped that helped:thumbsup:

Mick

I do kind of get what you're saying - for me, Lindsey can do no wrong and I too think his songs on SYW are brilliant, but yes they could just as easily have been a great solo album.

And I agree that Stevie was, well, underwhelming to say the least - although I do have a soft spot for the Say You Will track. Like yourself, I am not a solo Stevie fan!!!

But I still think there was some Mac magic with the songs done live - they do give me goosebumps when I watch LiB.

Thanks for sharing your opinions :thumbsup:

bluefox4000

05-16-2011, 10:25 AM

I do kind of get what you're saying - for me, Lindsey can do no wrong and I too think his songs on SYW are brilliant, but yes they could just as easily have been a great solo album.

And I agree that Stevie was, well, underwhelming to say the least - although I do have a soft spot for the Say You Will track. Like yourself, I am not a solo Stevie fan!!!

But I still think there was some Mac magic with the songs done live - they do give me goosebumps when I watch LiB.

Thanks for sharing your opinions :thumbsup:

I agree there. The first time I saw Linds do come..i swear I nearly had a heart Attack:]

Mick

chiliD

05-16-2011, 10:47 AM

Maybe they should just complete the circle with the final album: 'Truths'.

If they were to "complete the circle", they'd have to go back to that same London alley & find a "dog & dustbin".

McTrouble

05-16-2011, 10:54 AM

I agree there. The first time I saw Linds do come..i swear I nearly had a heart Attack:]

Mick

I always have to rewind to watch that again!

I'm going to have to watch LiB tonight now :laugh:

chiliD

05-16-2011, 10:55 AM

Although I don't think she would like them calling themselves FM, if they were alone. If they called themselves "The Men of Mac" that would work.

Hmmmm...I don't see "Nicks" anywhere in the name "Fleetwood Mac"; don't think she has a say in what the band's name is...like it or not. :shrug: If Stevie were to quit and Mick, John & Lindsey carry on, let's see...Drummer is Mick FLEETWOOD and the bass player is John McVie...therefore, they still have the right to call the band "Fleetwood Mac". There was a "Fleetwood Mac" before her, there was a "Fleetwood Mac" without her, and as long as Mick & John agree to use the name, then ANYONE they get with them as rhythm section could legitimately be called "Fleetwood Mac".

michelej1

05-16-2011, 12:57 PM

Hmmmm...I don't see "Nicks" anywhere in the name "Fleetwood Mac"; don't think she has a say in what the band's name is...like it or not.

You may be right. I never said that Stevie had the legal right to bar use of the name. I wouldn't know if she has a legal claim to "Fleetwood Mac". IWe can't say what their contractual obligations are these days and if they've changed since Stevie was out of the band in the early nineties, when Mick and John still clearly owned the name and used it accordingly. They may have entered new agreements since then.

However, legal restrictions aside, I think that not only would Stevie appreciate it if John, Mick and Lindsey didn't call their group "Fleetwood Mac" but the FANS would like that too, to avoid confusion, as would the promoters, etc.

Michele