Eagles / Fleetwood Mac Dream Pairing Eyed For Stadiums

[MacMan]

Dream pairing eyed for stadiums
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A dream tour of the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac has reached the proposal stage.

The concept of a summer US tour featuring the two Rock and Roll Hall of Fame members and consistent concert draws of the last decade is being presented to stadium and arena operators and promoters. The double bill is being considered for a combination of single nights in baseball and football stadiums and multiple nights in arenas.

The supply of national stadium tours has been slimming over the last several years. U2 was able to fill the 70,000-seat venues in cities across the country this year, but most stadium shows have been one-offs. Madonna and the reunited Police also had recent successes in stadiums.

The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac have shared a stadium bill only once--July 25, 1976 at Schaefer Stadium in Foxboro, MA. The Eagles were the headliners, having released a greatest hits album earlier in the year. Fleetwood Mac was still touring in support of their self-titled disc that was the first to feature Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham. Within a year of that show both bands would release the albums that elevated them to superstar status, "Hotel California" and "Rumours."

[CADreaming]

WHAT?!?! :eek:

I just don't even know what to make out of this notion...

[LukeA]

This idea has been floated numerous times over the past 10 years. Won't/can't happen. Ticket prices would have to be astronomical- to the point where only about a half dozen markets are REMOTELY feasible from a stadium perspective- and each band would only end up making a bit more than they could if they played on their own. Plus, these guys still have massive egos. Too many factors are keeping this even going past the proposal stage.

[ILoveFM]

I. Am. Freaking. Out.

[sodascouts]

Has it gotten to the proposal stage before? The LiveDaily article makes it sound like this is a step closer than in the past. Of course, that doesn't mean it'll come off.

[vivfox]

I wonder how much the cheap seats are gonna cost?

[louielouie2000]

Eeew. Another reason for them to play the cash in on the oldies game and not focus on doing something NEW! :rolleyes:

[Nathan]

Eeew. Another reason for them to play the cash in on the oldies game and not focus on doing something NEW! :rolleyes:


I have to agree. That probably would be the case.

[LukeA]

As MacMan noted, the site where this blurb was posted is owned by Ticketmaster, who is associated with Live Nation- both of whom are overseen by Irving Azoff, who- surprise!- happens to manage both Eagles & Fleetwood Mac.

This is about as blatant as a "lets throw this idea out to gauge fan reaction, and then react accordingly" planted news "story" as you can possibly get (even moreso than the Sheryl Crow fiasco). You'd have to be deaf, dumb & blind not to see how transparent this is.

[jbrownsjr]

As MacMan noted, the site where this blurb was posted is owned by Ticketmaster, who is associated with Live Nation- both of whom are overseen by Irving Azoff, who- surprise!- happens to manage both Eagles & Fleetwood Mac.

This is about as blatant as a "lets throw this idea out to gauge fan reaction, and then react accordingly" planted news "story" as you can possibly get (even moreso than the Sheryl Crow fiasco). You'd have to be deaf, dumb & blind not to see how transparent this is.

or just dumb..

[MacMan]

I could totally see this happening...but like you said with egos involved how could they work out such things as who would open/close? Both bands play long sets on their own, they'd obviously have to cut that back - which if you factor in the time spent on stage for each band might work out to just as much money wise as if they were playing on their own... In a stadium they'd have to come up with a shared type of stage if they are playing one right after the other - it would take hours to reconfigure to each layout if they didn't... There'd be lots of hurdles, but I think if they put their minds to it it could happen... But yeah, the big question would be who could afford the show and who could affort a ticket.

[hippilil86]

If they came anywhere near Mpls market, I would go. I bet though, the closest they would come would be Chicago. I think I would still go. However.....I'm 89% sure this is never going to happen.

[AliceLover]

Can you imagine how expensive the tickets would be? I personally think this would absolutely suck. Also, I don't think this is something Lindsey would go for unless there was some sort of new material to promote. He barely agreed to the "Unleashed Tour" and that was because he put out 20+ tracks of new material. I can't see him buying into this.

[louielouie2000]

I don't think this is something Lindsey would go for unless there was some sort of new material to promote. He barely agreed to the "Unleashed Tour" and that was because he put out 20+ tracks of new material. I can't see him buying into this.

I think he'd heartily disagree to it morally... but FM is his cash cow these days. I think him having his own family to support and remind him of their (and not just HIS) needs has changed LB. His continued involvement in Fleetwood Mac at this point is solely to support his solo career and padded lifestyle, I guarantee you.

[David]

The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac have shared a stadium bill only once--July 25, 1976 at Schaefer Stadium in Foxboro, MA. Um, is this true? I thought they did a bunch of outdoor stadium shows together that summer in '76.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

If this were to happen I would probably go...just to see FM. I wouldn't be overly thrilled about it though. The idea of sitting through even half a show with the Eagles gives me a headache. Plus, as was already mentioned, in having to accommodate both groups, so much of the FM material that they really HAVE to include in order to please the fans would have to be cut...so what would be the point?

They need to focus on new material! I'm anxious to see what they would come up with. I think they've still got it. I was behind this Unleashed Tour, thought it would be great fun, but its been done now...time to move on. They keep this up and the next thing you know they'll be headlining Silver Springs :(

LOL...and how many ex-lovers does Stevie need to go on tour with at one time anyway :p (Just kidding Stevie, you know I love ya :angel: )

[Hawkeye]

Please God dont let this happen.

[MacMan]

LOL...and how many ex-lovers does Stevie need to go on tour with at one time anyway :p (Just kidding Stevie, you know I love ya :angel: )

That's funny, never thought of that. She'll be drowning in a sea of MEN!

[GypsyBlueEyes]

That's funny, never thought of that. She'll be drowning in a sea of MEN!

haha, she'll be drowning in a sea of awkward!

[SandyMac]

yeah really, talk about awkward... Stevie telling the Gypsy story of how LB shared the bed on the floor with Don listening in the wings backstage.

Scheduling this would be a nightmare and can listen to the Eagles sometimes, but would hate to sit through a whole Eagles concert just to hear Fleetwood Mac, plus the sticky situation of who opens. Do they alternate who goes first?

Hmmm, wondering if they are saying the same thing over at the Eagles forum boards, but in reverse.

[FMlex]

I don't care how expensive the tickets are, I will be there with bells and whistles on.
I definitely hope this happens.

Eeeeeeeeek! Hahaha it is quite comical though for Stevie being up there with so many ex-lovers.

[Amlyn]

haha, she'll be drowning in a sea of awkward!

4 of your ex-lovers all touring together. There's a reality show for ya.

[LukeA]

I'm overwhelmed by the sheer number of reasons why this tour will never happen. Hopefully, I won't have to get into the nitty gritty to dissuade the optimistic/delusional, but.. lets just boil it down to this-

Eagles are considerably more popular than Fleetwood Mac. They don't need an opening act, and Fleetwood Mac most certainly doesn't want to open for Eagles.

[michelej1]

Dream pairing eyed for stadiums
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A dream tour of the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac has reached the proposal stage.



If this was the surprise that Mick was talking about, I'd like to grab him and cut off his ponytail. It's more of a nightmare than a surprise. Michele

[holidayroad]

Can you imagine how expensive the tickets would be? I personally think this would absolutely suck. Also, I don't think this is something Lindsey would go for unless there was some sort of new material to promote. He barely agreed to the "Unleashed Tour" and that was because he put out 20+ tracks of new material. I can't see him buying into this.

I agree that I could never see Lindsey agreeing to this. Nothing against The Eagles. They are a fine music group who I would like to see in concert, but not in concert as an opener or closer for Fleetwood Mac. Each group lends itself to a 'concert experience'. Mixing the two would make each so much less special.

[DavidMn]

So how long would each bands set be? 2 hours? 90 min? I am intrigued by the idea, but while it wouldn't completely shock me to see it happen, in my opinion there's less than a 25% chance of it actually occuring.

[sodascouts]

This is about as blatant as a "lets throw this idea out to gauge fan reaction, and then react accordingly" planted news "story" as you can possibly get.

I don't see how this supports your contention that the tour is not going to happen. Presumably, if fan reaction were positive enough, the tour might happen after all... unless you believe they enjoy testing fan response for ideas they have no intention of ever carrying out.

Unfortunately, I still have to admit I don't think this will come off either.

[joe]

Dream pairing eyed for stadiums
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The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac have shared a stadium bill only once--July 25, 1976 at Schaefer Stadium in Foxboro, MA.

So THAT'S where that footage is from in Two Sticks and A Drum. The opening shots are of a stadium show and I thought I made out "Schaefer" on the outside of the stadium. I think I even asked this once on here but noone knew (or cared!). Not sure why I was intrigued by it but I'm always curious about the dates and places of old footage.

And, yes, as David pointed out, I thought they did some other stadium shows with the Eagles that summer? Wasn't there mention of something on the 4th of July in FL?

We need full video w/audio (none of this super 8 silent stuff) of this gig.

[AgeOldDesire]

I know a person can live just fine on one kidney; but I'd like to keep both of mine where they are. So I won't be selling one just to get a ticket to this little Same Old Songs Soiree.

[HenleyFan]

Yeah, it's pretty much the same sentiment in our Eagles fan community. :) Not that we don't like FM, but we don't want a shared bill show with shortened sets, higher ticket prices and stadiums (which suck BIG TIME).

This double bill would be a great show for the casual, classic rock fan, but hard-core fans of either band are going to be disappointed. Both bands would have to play only the hits and cut out anything that makes a regular show special and exciting......not cool.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com


Hmmm, wondering if they are saying the same thing over at the Eagles forum boards, but in reverse.

[FMlex]

I'm overwhelmed by the sheer number of reasons why this tour will never happen. Hopefully, I won't have to get into the nitty gritty to dissuade the optimistic/delusional, but.. lets just boil it down to this-

Eagles are considerably more popular than Fleetwood Mac. They don't need an opening act, and Fleetwood Mac most certainly doesn't want to open for Eagles.

Plenty of successful bands tour together. Chicago and E,W&F. Styx and REO Speedwagon. James Tayor and Carole King.

Granted, most popular bands that get together like that come up with a new song they had worked on together, but FM & the Eagles could do that too -- hahaha. Yeah, right. Lindsey and Don working together. That'd be some funny **** to see.

It could happen, but I don't really see why a lot of you automatically dismiss the idea. Do you really not think that this is a cool idea or are you just trying to be all high and mighty so you can say "I told you so" if the time comes? :shrug:

[vivfox]

December 11, 2009
Eagles and Fleetwood Mac this Summer?
Fleetwood Mac? Stadiums? We sure hope not! Thanks, Mike B. for the heads up!

The concept of a summer US tour featuring the two Rock and Roll Hall of Fame members and consistent concert draws of the last decade is being presented to stadium and arena operators and promoters. The double bill is being considered for a combination of single nights in baseball and football stadiums and multiple nights in arenas.

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December 11, 2009 in Eagles, Eagles Tour Dates | Permalink

Comments
Jersey Jim said...
I remember when I saw the Stevie Nicks and Don Henley tour a few years back at PNC Arts Center in New Jersey. Stevie Nicks fans were giving Don a hard time and Don didnt even do an encore. Not that this would happen but my question would be who goes on first? Hope this tour doesnt happen.
Reply December 12, 2009 at 09:28 AM

Mary R said...
This one is a "toughy"---I'm inclined to agree with Griff on this one---tho I'm thinkin that a cool summer night at the old "E" Center on the waterfront in Camden NJ might be a VERY NEAT PLACE to see the Eagles & "The Mac" come next July or August. We shall see what we shall see!!
Reply December 12, 2009 at 04:02 AM

Super Frey said...
Well I agree on seeing the Eagles, but I also think it would be cool to see Fleetwood Mac too.
Reply December 11, 2009 at 08:46 PM

Cella said...
I am skeptical that they will go for it – for some reason. I also think that I prefer to spend my money to see the Eagles in smaller arenas, for the sound quality. I am not sure about the “outside stadium thing”.
Reply December 11, 2009 at 07:59 PM

Griff said...
Neither band can fill stadiums seperately but maybe together. If this is the last tour for The Eagles I would rather see them in a small arena or large auditorium for optimum sound. Maybe a tour with some of each. Stadiums w/Mac for a few dates in the largest markets and small arenas and premier halls for intimate high quality sound! I wouldn't waste my money on an outdoor stadium show with their terrible sound. We shall see.
Reply December 11, 2009 at 07:01 PM

Scott said...
Awesome! Hope it happens, it would be monumental!

http://eaglesfans.typepad.com/latest_news/2009/12/eagles-and-fleetwood-mac-this-summer.html

[Musicman408]

I don't know about you all, but I have no interest in seeing this because I KNOW that ticket prices will absolutely be RIDICULOUS!!!!! And I am totally not for that.

[David]

Granted, most popular bands that get together like that come up with a new song they had worked on together, but FM & the Eagles could do that too -- hahaha. Yeah, right. Lindsey and Don working together. That'd be some funny **** to see.They have worked together: Lindsey played guitar & helped with some production tasks on Don's "Building the Perfect Beast" album.

It could happen, but I don't really see why a lot of you automatically dismiss the idea. It seems perfectly plausible to me. It sounds like huge potential for ka-ching all around, which is what the sixty-somethings need, now that their real estate & their IRAs have lost so much value.

Imagine the PBS pledge breaks next year: "The Eagles & Fleetwood Mac--Rhiannon Checks In To The Hotel California!"

[pattyfan]

Well, I have no idea whether it will happen or not, but I really hope it doesn't. I'm sure the tickets will be at least $200 each, and probably a lot more than that. Also, stadium shows absolutely suck. The sound is always terrible, you end up watching them on a screen because you are so far away, and because it's hard for people who aren't die hard fans to stay connected to the performance, you get lots of beer swilling people talking through the entire show. Plus, you know we would get abbreviated sets. I mean, for each of them to play 2 hours, plus make changes on stage between the two bands, and finish before 11:00 (most cities have curfews for loud shows, don't they?) the would have to start at 6:00 , and you know that's not going to happen. But the worst part of it is that if it happens, I know I will shell out the big bucks and go. I just wouldn't be able not to. I know, I'm sick;)

Kevin

[Fleetwoodmark]

I pray to God this doesn't come to fruition. I cannot think of anything worse lol.

I don't think Lindsey, Mick or John would agree to it !

[louielouie2000]

I know a person can live just fine on one kidney; but I'd like to keep both of mine where they are. So I won't be selling one just to get a ticket to this little Same Old Songs Soiree.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Best damn response of the thread! :thumbsup:

I know what you mean though, I thumbed my nose at the Mac's $150 ticket price this past Spring, so I'm sure not gonna pay $200+++ to see them with the Eagles. Though I love both bands, this is just total relegation to oldies standards... and I just have no interest. You just get a watered down soundbite version of each monumental band... and who wants that? :shrug:

[michelej1]

They have worked together: Lindsey played guitar & helped with some production tasks on Don's "Building the Perfect Beast" album.



Yeah, that's Lindsey singing on Don's "You Can't Make Love."

Michele

[iamnotafraid]

Um, is this true? I thought they did a bunch of outdoor stadium shows together that summer in '76.

You are correct sir. I believe one of those concerts
took place in New Orleans.

And I agree with LukeA on this one, I don't think it's
going to happen.

I can't imagine Henley with his ego would open for anyone.
And I hope Lindsey wouldn't cave on this either. But then
again.........there were rumours about a Cyrus/Mac Tour.
Wonder what happened with that?

[daniellaaarisen]

This better not happen, at least anytime soon. Let's get some new material to promote and NOT give Stephanie Lynn Nicks another reason to bitch about a tour.... if you think it is awkward to tour with one ex, imagine that times four. DUMB IDEA, even if she's on great terms with all the Eagles.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. This is bad. I really hope Fleetwood Mac values their CAREERS enough to keep from going in this direction.... they're not going to be music artists to me when they stop recording, throw the towel in for good and say, "let's run around and play all the songs everyone has heard five thousand times because its safe."

[LukeA]

It all boils down to the question of whether Eagles + Fleetwood Mac = Rolling Stones, in terms of the fan interest/box office receipts... because the only way ANY number of stadium dates (let alone an arena tour? Give me a f'n break) make any sense is if they can get at least 20,000 people to buy $250+ tickets- in other words, a $5M head start. How many markets could pull that off for this double-bill? I can think of 5-6. Stadium gigs have huge overhead costs- whether you're running a U2-sized spectacle or you're Bruce Springsteen.

If the Eagles & Fleetwood Mac both reunited 1995ish and went on a stadium tour... now we're talking. At this juncture, both Eagles & Fleetwood Mac have oversaturated the market to the point where even the once-in-a-lifetime pairing of these two acts wouldn't kick up enough interest/dollars to facilitate even the CONVERSATION of whether they could pull it off or not ego-wise.

[ragrsrocalot]

I just dont think this will happen either. I love the Eagles.I saw their Hell Freezes Over Tour at Giants Stadium in 94, wooooooooow, fantastic. So it has nothing to do with them. I think I would just rather it be two different experiences then put together into one package. Besides if Stevie thinks the Mac is a boy's club now without Christine, forget about it!

[LukeA]

Plenty of successful bands tour together. Chicago and E,W&F. Styx and REO Speedwagon. James Tayor and Carole King.

HUGE difference between two-three 3k-5k seater acts teaming up to tour 15K capacity sheds and two arena headliners teaming up to tackle 40K+ stadiums. The differences are so substantial that I can't believe you apparently don't recognize them.

It could happen, but I don't really see why a lot of you automatically dismiss the idea. Do you really not think that this is a cool idea or are you just trying to be all high and mighty so you can say "I told you so" if the time comes?

The way you phrase that, you seem to suggest that such a tour is likely, and that suggesting the tour could never happen is an act of prescience... when its clearly the other way around.

[LukeA]

It was drilled into me in my concert promoting days that there's no such thing as bad gigs/venues, just bad deals. Despite all the correctly-placed skepticism for this tour (by me & plenty of others), I actually think they can pull off up to 10 double-bill stadium dates...

2 - Dodger Stadium (LA)
2 - CitiField/Yankee Stadium (NY)
1 - Gillette Stadium (Boston)
1 - Oakland Coliseum (SF)
1 - Soldier Field (Chicago)
1 - Turner Field (Atlanta)
1 - Nationals Ballpark (Washington DC)
1 - Cowboys Stadium (Dallas)

All on Thu-Sun's, and not ANY sooner than July 2011. I'd make sure that Eagles & Fleetwood Mac limited their touring in any of these regions before then (as it stands, Eagles are poised to take about $8M out of the LA market with the April '10 Hollywood Bowl shows that go on sale this upcoming Monday). As for the "multiple nights in arenas" nonsense, the only ones that make any sense are Las Vegas & Atlantic City, where they can conceivably get away with charging Streisand/'05 tour level prices.

But would this generate enough money to placate Eagles? They're the ones that would need convincing- they could play a stadium gig here and there on their own- they don't need FM's help. FM's the one that's aimlessly sputtering with no direction or momentum & are in strong need/desire of one last big payday/hurrah before they pack it in.

[vivfox]

Luke, do you think they can play stadiums in Florida or Colorado too?

[FMlex]

HUGE difference between two-three 3k-5k seater acts teaming up to tour 15K capacity sheds and two arena headliners teaming up to tackle 40K+ stadiums. The differences are so substantial that I can't believe you apparently don't recognize them.



The way you phrase that, you seem to suggest that such a tour is likely, and that suggesting the tour could never happen is an act of prescience... when its clearly the other way around.

Go your own way, Luke.

[LukeA]

Luke, do you think they can play stadiums in Florida or Colorado too?

Miami & Denver are plausible. Atlanta (from a regional perspective) makes more sense to me than Miami, at least at first blush. Eagles did a concert at the then-new Denver Broncos stadium Summer '01, and it sold 55K+ tickets. Of course, we're talking about ten years later, now. It really all boils down to how much money these guys would expect out of such a proposition, and finding a price point that's palatable to the bands, managers, and the public.

Which reminds me, reason number #57 why this tour will never take place- both FM & Eagles historically require large, up-front guarantees- rather than, say, 95% of the gross minus expenses. There is no question that an FM/Eagles package tour would require an astronomical up-front guarantee in order for the bands to sign off on this... something in the neighborhood of about $4M per date. Hence, the $5M (after expenses) breakeven figure I referenced before. The incestuous Live Nation/Eagles/FM/Irving Azoff relationship aside, this is still quite a bit to ask.

[WelshWitchPMD]

I think this idea is awful for many obvious reasons. It seems like Live Daily is looking for feedback on this idea so post away. Here is the link:http://www.livedaily.com/backline/eagles-fleetwood-mac-dream-pairing-eyed-for-stadiums-20947.html?fbc_channel=1#fname=_opener&%7B%22t%22%3A3%2C%22h%22%3A%22fbCancelLogin%22%2C%22sid%22%3A%220.499%22%7D

FYI this rumour has been around for a few years. Here's a real blast from the past on this very same topic on this very same board. http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=16247

[Spikey]

Lindsey can play guitar on "Hotel California" :laugh:

As has been said before, this is something akin to a bad dream. Not a dream I want to sell either!

Thanks to Luke for his insightful posts, too. Very interesting.

- Spike

[sodascouts]

I actually think they can pull off up to 10 double-bill stadium dates...

I wonder if that's the idea - just a very few shows. Stevie and Don Henley's "Two Voices" tour was only ten dates, right?

I may be in the minority, but I hope this will happen. These are my favorite groups and to see them both in one show would indeed be a "dream pairing" for me. I think there are others like me, and there are more casual fans of both groups who would go to a "combo" show even if they don't go to a show with just one of the groups.

As for all the ego business, I think if the money were good enough, that would be cast aside. Heck, maybe FM and the Eagles would like the idea of playing shorter sets and still getting a comparable amount of money. So, the only real question is, would this combo make the kind of money necessary to get everyone on board? If the answer is "no" then forget it. If the answer is "yes"...

[HenleyFan]

Luke--

You make some excellent points, but I think there are some other factors besides money (well of course, that's always the number one factor) that would make this sort of outing very attractive to the Eagles.

Recent Eagles and solo shows have demonstrated that while the Eagles still put on an amazing show, they just aren't able to do lengthy tours and multiple dates in a row without consequence any more.

On the last string of dates, Frey was looking and sounding tired. Recently, Henley's been experiencing vocal problems on his solo shows (and at Eagles shows). Henley has also frequently lamented the fact that he doesn't want to be away from his children.

This would be a great way to

1. Make a lot of money in a few dates
2. Play a shortened set that would take the pressure off of the vocals.

We really think that as much as we don't want it to, this mini-tour is going to happen. Thank goodness the Eagles are doing a string of west coast dates this spring.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com


But would this generate enough money to placate Eagles? They're the ones that would need convincing- they could play a stadium gig here and there on their own- they don't need FM's help. FM's the one that's aimlessly sputtering with no direction or momentum & are in strong need/desire of one last big payday/hurrah before they pack it in.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Luke--

You make some excellent points, but I think there are some other factors besides money (well of course, that's always the number one factor) that would make this sort of outing very attractive to the Eagles.

Recent Eagles and solo shows have demonstrated that while the Eagles still put on an amazing show, they just aren't able to do lengthy tours and multiple dates in a row without consequence any more.

On the last string of dates, Frey was looking and sounding tired. Recently, Henley's been experiencing vocal problems on his solo shows (and at Eagles shows). Henley has also frequently lamented the fact that he doesn't want to be away from his children.

This would be a great way to

1. Make a lot of money in a few dates
2. Play a shortened set that would take the pressure off of the vocals.

We really think that as much as we don't want it to, this mini-tour is going to happen. Thank goodness the Eagles are doing a string of west coast dates this spring.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com
I see that those I Love All Access packages are $995.00 for the first 3 rows. Do those typically sell well for The Eagles shows? I can just imagine how insane they will be if Fleetwood Mac are added to the mix.

[MacMan]

I think it would actually be kind of neat and an interesting combo if this went ahead, would be an attention getter for sure... A full on tour over a number of months together might take away from it being sort of special... but if they did a limited string of dates in the summer at these venues Luke mentioned, like in 10 or so markets that could handle the cost, I think it's totally plausible and achievable. I don't know what each band plans to do for this coming summer, maybe a few massive shows together sounds more attractive for both bands and would generate what would normally take a summer tour to make for them... who knows.

[HenleyFan]

How well the ILAA packages sell really depends on the market. They will sell better in Los Angeles than they will in Moline. The prices also fluctuate according to market.

The prices for the Hollywood Bowl shows are inflated because of the "special" nature of those shows. Usually, ILAA is about $595 to $795 and only guarantee first 10 rows. In the most recent shows most ILAA people got rows 5-8 unlike previous tours when you could get first 3 for the same price.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

I see that those I Love All Access packages are $995.00 for the first 3 rows. Do those typically sell well for The Eagles shows? I can just imagine how insane they will be if Fleetwood Mac are added to the mix.

[Spikey]

As long as it doesn't affect the potential new FM album, and someone bootlegs it, go for it, otherwise, no way!!

:P

[Fannymac]

I see both the egos and the $$$$ TOTALLY prohibiting this!!!

[vivfox]

The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac to tour? Say it ain’t so!
By Chris Coplan on December 14th, 2009

Go ahead and say this out loud: “Yeah, I’m going to see Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles next week”. You’ve always wanted to say it and now that musical fantasy could be making its way to a stadium near you, and in no time at all.

According to LiveDaily.com, the proposal for the tour has been submitted to stadium and arena operators and promoters across the country for a U.S. summer tour. While nothing is definite, given the recent success of U2, who were able to pack 70,000+ seat venues, and the likes of Madonna and The Police, things look promising. Plus, this is the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac we’re talking about!

The tour would see the band take on baseball and football stadiums, either in single or multiple nights. If you know your music history, the two have only ever played together once, on July 25, 1976, at Schaefer Stadium in Foxboro, MA. The Eagles had just released their now-iconic greatest hits album and Fleetwood Mac were touring behind their second eponymous album, with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, who at the time were new members! There’s a little rock history for you.

In other news, Fleetwood Mac recently finished up a European tour in November and saw the re-release of its own greatest hits package, The Very Best of Fleetwood Mac, in October. Meanwhile, The Eagles last toured in July 2009 (though they do have three dates already scheduled next April), and their Wal-Mart-only issued Long Road Out of Eden, their first studio album since 1979’s The Long Run, stormed the charts in 2007, working off of singles “How Long” and “Busy Being Fabulous”. Needless to say, these two acts “still got it.”

We’ll keep you updated once the tour stops teasing us and delivers some actual dates.

The Eagles 2010 Tour Dates:
04/16 - Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Bowl
04/17 - Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Bowl
04/18 - Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Bowl

http://consequenceofsound.net/2009/12/14/the-eagles-and-fleetwood-mac-to-tour-say-it-aint-so/

[77Rumours77]

Looks like its going to happen!!!!

http://pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2009/12/14/701778.aspx


I dont care what anyone says. I actually looking forward to this!

[michelej1]

Kill me now. Just kill me now. I don't even have the energy for this.


Michele

[no_spoken_word]

At least it would be something different, for both audience and performers, since neither band have any new material out. I mean, both bands have been working the arena/amphitheatre circuit since the mid-90's now...

And as usual, I'm hoping that by "U.S." they mean 'U.S.+Toronto', hehe...

[Nicks Fan]

My theories are that this is just a cash grab. I don't like the sounds of this tour which has nostalgia written all over it. Ticket prices will be in the 250- 399 range I bet. Still I have to admit this has me very excited !!!. I love both bands and never thought this would ever happen. If it does I will go to at least one show.

Matt

[AliceLover]

Ok, so axe: I Know I'm Not Wrong, Go Insane, Sara, Storms, SYLM, and Oh Well....theres your set for next summer. But you'll probably pay twice the $$$ for the tickets.

This sucks, I hope and pray it doesn't happen.

[Macfanforever]

Ya right $400 dollar tickets coming our way.

[AliceLover]

Ok a few minutes after my initial post, I'm still seriously bumming. Like, really? This must have been the "something special" Mick was referring to when talking to fans. Don't they understand that not everyone has millions of dollars like them to spend on concerts? If this really gets going, I hope Lindsey leaves and does solo albums. Yes, I'm being a bit dramatic, but I want new music soooooooo bad!

[vivfox]

Ok a few minutes after my initial post, I'm still seriously bumming. Like, really? This must have been the "something special" Mick was referring to when talking to fans. Don't they understand that not everyone has millions of dollars like them to spend on concerts? If this really gets going, I hope Lindsey leaves and does solo albums. Yes, I'm being a bit dramatic, but I want new music soooooooo bad!

I think they think the baby boomers are loaded.

[LukeA]

Looks like its going to happen!!!!

http://pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2009/12/14/701778.aspx


Why? Because they quoted a glorified speculative focus group survey? Show some discretion before making such foolish assumptions.

[vivfox]

Why? Because they quoted a glorified speculative focus group survey? Show some discretion before making such foolish assumptions.

Luke you just may have to eat your own words.

[LukeA]

Luke you just may have to eat your own words.

I'll do that in due time. Pollstar referencing an article posted by the same organization who manage FM/Eagles is HARDLY validation to anything.

[HenleyFan]

It was pretty much confirmed to us today, but no details were offered. I'm sure those will come in due time.


L&M
www.eaglesfans.com


Why? Because they quoted a glorified speculative focus group survey? Show some discretion before making such foolish assumptions.

[LukeA]

It was pretty much confirmed to us today, but no details were offered. I'm sure those will come in due time.

Pardon me? Where was it confirmed? Regurgitation of the original "news release" on other sites isn't confirmation.

[AliceLover]

It was pretty much confirmed to us today, but no details were offered. I'm sure those will come in due time.


L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! At least the Eagles put out that new album a couple years back!

[justcrazylove]

This is bad, very very bad! Either get into the studio or split up! It's that simple!

[DavidMn]

One thing I noticed is signifigantly more animosity towards Fleetwood Mac from fans on the Eagles board than there is towards the Eagles here. I find that to be dissapointing.:confused: Am I more partial towards FM? Absolutely. But I have seen the Eagles 4 times and for the most part enjoyed myself with the notable exception of watching Glenn Frey "attempt" to still sing You Belong To The City.:eek: While I understand there is a natural rivalry between the bands since they were/are competing within the same genre of music, were not talking Red Sox/Yankees here! Cant we all just get along?:lol:

[HenleyFan]

It was confirmed to us personally by a contact we have with the band.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com


Pardon me? Where was it confirmed? Regurgitation of the original "news release" on other sites isn't confirmation.

[HenleyFan]

David--

I've seen Fleetwood Mac one time. It was okay. I enjoyed LB's guitar playing. Granted, my seats sucked, but I wouldn't rank the show as one of my favorites.

I don't think the animosity is toward FM per se...but toward the fact that the bill will be split. Over the last few years, the Eagles setlist has become a "greatest hits" collection with the new songs slowly being removed from the setlist and even the acoustic set (with some of the standout performances of the evening) being cut for time.

Having to share the bill with anyone will create even more cuts and reduce the chance of anything interesting happening.

Do FM fans think that their set will be anything more than the Greatest Hits as well?

One thing I noticed is signifigantly more animosity towards Fleetwood Mac from fans on the Eagles board than there is towards the Eagles here. I find that to be dissapointing.:confused: Am I more partial towards FM? Absolutely. But I have seen the Eagles 4 times and for the most part enjoyed myself with the notable exception of watching Glenn Frey "attempt" to still sing You Belong To The City.:eek: While I understand there is a natural rivalry between the bands since they were/are competing within the same genre of music, were not talking Red Sox/Yankees here! Cant we all just get along?:lol:

[GypsyBlueEyes]

I seriously cannot believe it. WHY are they doing this??? Are they under some sort of impression that they have all the time in the world to put out new music? As much as it pains me to acknowledge it, their window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller each year that passes. They really have a great opportunity to not just become a greatest hits band like most others, a lot of which disappear into obscurity. They could really be innovative and put out something amazing if they really put any effort into it. The future still holds so much more for them if they'd just get to work and go for it. This is such a waste of valuable time.

[BigAl84]

It all comes down to ease with this band anymore. It's just EASIER to do a bunch of dates with the eagles and make guaranteed bucks. They won't even have to rehearse. Come in the week before the first gig and play a condensed version of the unleashed set....check in with the eagles folks about the logistics etc....it's just way easier to do this and it certainly gives them a way to duck out of working on a new album!!

At first I was surprised lindsey would do this, but then again I think he's just grown up enough to realize - it just isn't worth the headache and the bitching to go against this grain. We all know there would be a knock down drag out fight with Stevie over anything interrupting her don and stevie show part two and it would probably be the end of the band. I think he really wants a new album so i'm betting he's swallowing really hard to agree to these dates - probably just hoping its a month long string of dates and then back into the studio....all drama spared.

..but then again REO Speedwagon might need another band to pair with in 2012 hahahaha

[BigAl84]

I seriously cannot believe it. WHY are they doing this??? Are they under some sort of impression that they have all the time in the world to put out new music? As much as it pains me to acknowledge it, their window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller each year that passes. They really have a great opportunity to not just become a greatest hits band like most others, a lot of which disappear into obscurity. They could really be innovative and put out something amazing if they really put any effort into it. The future still holds so much more for them if they'd just get to work and go for it. This is such a waste of valuable time.

considering this is the band that seemed a little shocked when they didn't pack an arena in the middle of the recession with 100+ ticket prices....I'm pretty sure they do believe they have all the time in the world!!!!

[GypsyBlueEyes]

I don't know what the hell Lindsey is thinking. I can't believe he would agree to it. I would think he'd bail and do something solo rather than this. He can't possibly think they'll make money. There are just too many negatives, all of which have already been discussed. No one will be able to afford the tickets, neither band is going to want to open for the other (with good reason, of course), and the FM fans know it will be just an abbreviated performance of the tour they've already paid good money to see. What about fans in general?? FM have some of the most devoted fans in the world and I'm sure there are fans that are just as devoted to the Eagles...but are there really that many crossover fans that love both FM and the Eagles??? I mean, love them enough to pay what they are going to have to pay for a greatest of the greatest hits set list??

What I want to know is, how exactly did Stevie talk Lindsey into it??? Mick and John would have been easy...they just want to play and have a good time. Lindsey on the other hand is way to concerned with artistry etc. I don't know who came up with this idea, but I imagine Stevie would have been the one all for it...we all know she loves doing something different and the excitement of touring with other people...so I'm just wondering what persuasive techniques she used to get him to agree. That's a conversation I would have loved to have been there to see :thumbsup:

As for the "Don and Stevie show part 2," I can do without it. I want her either with FM doing something new or I want her solo...I do not want her with the Eagles. Where the hell is Tom Petty when you need him?? If she wants to do something like this, go out on the road with Tom again but this time it would be their tour, not just her as his guest. Now that is something that could be made to work :nod:

[BigAl84]

I don't know what the hell Lindsey is thinking. I can't believe he would agree to it. I would think he'd bail and do something solo rather than this. He can't possibly think they'll make money. There are just too many negatives, all of which have already been discussed. No one will be able to afford the tickets, neither band is going to want to open for the other (with good reason, of course), and the FM fans know it will be just an abbreviated performance of the tour they've already paid good money to see. What about fans in general?? FM have some of the most devoted fans in the world and I'm sure there are fans that are just as devoted to the Eagles...but are there really that many crossover fans that love both FM and the Eagles??? I mean, love them enough to pay what they are going to have to pay for a greatest of the greatest hits set list??

What I want to know is, how exactly did Stevie talk Lindsey into it??? Mick and John would have been easy...they just want to play and have a good time. Lindsey on the other hand is way to concerned with artistry etc. I don't know who came up with this idea, but I imagine Stevie would have been the one all for it...we all know she loves doing something different and the excitement of touring with other people...so I'm just wondering what persuasive techniques she used to get him to agree. That's a conversation I would have loved to have been there to see :thumbsup:

As for the "Don and Stevie show part 2," I can do without it. I want her either with FM doing something new or I want her solo...I do not want her with the Eagles. Where the hell is Tom Petty when you need him?? If she wants to do something like this, go out on the road with Tom again but this time it would be their tour, not just her as his guest. Now that is something that could be made to work :nod:


Hahah I know Tom is NEVER the type to really make comments about other bands but you and I both know he has got to be quietly puking into his mouth right now Hahahahahahahaha.

This is really just going to be gigs not geared towards eagles or mac fans...this is going to be just a general public, casual....I work in manhattan and have the extra 175+ to drop and see two bands I grew up with at City Field...you know what I mean?

[BigAl84]

Hahah I know Tom is NEVER the type to really make comments about other bands but you and I both know he has got to be quietly puking into his mouth right now Hahahahahahahaha.

This is really just going to be gigs not geared towards eagles or mac fans...this is going to be just a general public, casual....I work in manhattan and have the extra 175+ to drop and see two bands I grew up with at City Field...you know what I mean?

I meant Citi Field...wow I just sounded like an idiot.

[FMlex]

Trust me, HenleyFan knows what's she's talking about. I wouldn't second guess her.

-----------------------

HenleyFan:
It was pretty much confirmed to us today, but no details were offered. I'm sure those will come in due time.


L&M
www.eaglesfans.com



Originally Posted by LukeA
Why? Because they quoted a glorified speculative focus group survey? Show some discretion before making such foolish assumptions.

[sodascouts]

Well, I for one am TOTALLY jazzed! My two fave bands on one stage! YES!!

I don't think Lindsey took much persuasion, GypsyBlueEyes. I adore him, but when he was promoting the Unleashed tour by echoing Stevie's statements that it was fun not to have to play new material after he'd criticized touring without new material for years... well, let's just say that his perspective on such things has obviously changed.

And if it leads to this kind of treat, I have no problem with that!

DavidMN, the vast majority of Eagles fans have no problems with Fleetwood Mac, or with Fleetwood Mac's fans. It's just a vocal few... and I think here at the Ledge we all know that the vocal few are usually not representative! ;)

The only concern I have is the prices, but for this kind of show, I'll suck it up. It'll be epic!

ETA: Folks that think they'll be paying $175 or thereabouts should know that since the Eagles alone charge $200 per ticket, it'll be more than that for sure for the top tier. I'm hoping not more than $250, though.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Hahah I know Tom is NEVER the type to really make comments about other bands but you and I both know he has got to be quietly puking into his mouth right now Hahahahahahahaha.

ahahahaha!

This is really just going to be gigs not geared towards eagles or mac fans...this is going to be just a general public, casual...

That sounds about right.

I don't think Lindsey took much persuasion, GypsyBlueEyes. I adore him, but when he was promoting the Unleashed tour by echoing Stevie's statements that it was fun not to have to play new material after he'd criticized touring without new material for years... well, let's just say that his perspective on such things has obviously changed.

I always thought one of the reasons he agreed to the Unleashed Tour was to set into motion work on a new album. I guess I'm just disappointed by this FM/Eagles thing because it feels like another setback to that.

[lilwing80]

I think they have come to realize what they are, what the executives want, and what is best for them in this day and age. They aren't going to be breaking new ground. They are in their 60's and they are _comfortable_.

And old habits die hard. Especially the way the "Fleetwood Mac" lifestyle is.

We all know Silver Springs is not sung with conviction anymore, the hugs are staged, and there is no passionate sparks. I realized this the last time I went to the FM concert here in Houston. At least we all should know this - If _I_ do, everyone else should. LOL.

Furthermore, I truly believe there won't be any ackwardness with the guys in the Eagles and Stevie and Lindsey. I don't think it matters anymore. It's almost like this last FM tour was closure. That's what it felt like to me. Believe me, I adore Fleetwood Mac...but I know... yes, that is what it is.... Nostalgia....

[Spikey]

We'll see if this ever actually happens.. God I hope not!! But hopefully lightning strikes the stage, mebbe once, maybe twice.

BTW, does it not seem like crowds will be tiny with 300+ ticket prices and bad setlists??

The only way I could get excited even a little is if Christine magically appeared.

- Spike

[seekerj]

I .... just... don't get this... at all.

FM fans are not necessarily Eagles fans, and vice versa.

I know they are from the same era. But is that really enough to think that people like both bands? With that rationale, why not put the Eagles with Helen Reddy???? That makes about as much sense. Or FM with Tony Orlando?

I so hate multiple band bills.

I guess this will be the first FM tour since 1982 that I haven't seen.

[holidayroad]

..but then again REO Speedwagon might need another band to pair with in 2012 hahahaha

I'd much rather it be REO Speedwagon! Then it would be more clear who the opening act would be!......Well, if they are going to tour with someone else, how about Daryl Hall/John Oates?:laugh: If I'm going to pay massive money, I might as well see my two favorite groups!

[LukeA]

I'd much rather it be REO Speedwagon! Then it would be more clear who the opening act would be!

I think its pretty clear who the bigger band is. Even if the plan going-in is to alternate, they'll nix that idea after the first show where Eagles go first, when the droves of concert-goers leave.

Lindsey's finally going to have the chance to open for Don & Glenn!

[HomerMcvie]

I think its pretty clear who the bigger band is. Even if the plan going-in is to alternate, they'll nix that idea after the first show where Eagles go first, when the droves of concert-goers leave.

Lindsey's finally going to have the chance to open for Don & Glenn!

Yep. There's NO WAY the Eagles will open. They are clearly the bigger act, in every way. Anyone who thinks different, is blind to the facts.

And I agree with Nancy, it would be my favorite two bands! But there's no way I'd pay the ridiculous ticket prices.

[jbrownsjr]

The only way I could get excited even a little is if Christine magically appeared.

- Spike

She's laughing at FMac...

[HomerMcvie]

She's laughing at FMac...

I'm sure she is! Christine is the epitome of class. She knew when to make that last curtain call. Not beat that horse, that's been dead for ten+ years!

I think it's sad. I MUCH prefer to remember them in their heyday. Hell, the only one who still has any singing range, is the one who quit!:D

[michelej1]

Ok a few minutes after my initial post, I'm still seriously bumming. Like, really? This must have been the "something special" Mick was referring to when talking to fans.

And if this is what Mick meant, it's even more of an insult, as if he's giving us some kind of treat. It's him that's being rewarded, not us. It's like he smacked me in the head with his wooden balls.

Michele

[Nicks Fan]

I really like the Eagles but one thing that has always ticked me off about them is that every time they go on tour the ticket prices increase allot and since they play the same set list pretty much all the time with very few rarities (Victim of Love, Sad Cafe, These Shoes, Disc Strangler etc) it does seem like a slap in the face of the fans who have been loyal to the band for so long. I also dislike the inclusion of so many solo songs from Don and Glen and Joe's solo career. I would rather hear more songs from the Eagles Catalogue.

As for Fleetwood Mac I love the band and saw them for the first time in Toronto in 2003. That show was ok but I felt like Stevie and Lindsey's vocals were subpar for most of the show. There were some exceptions (Beautiful Child, Stand Back, Eyes of The World Goodbye Baby). The backup musciains were a major distraction and annoying.

This tour in 2009 I saw them in Ottawa and was very surprised. The band was in top form and I felt that the vocals were much better. The only let down for me was GYOW as it was sung in a lower register and it didn't suit the song at all. Aside from that the show was great. They seemed to be having fun and it didn't feel forced like it did on the SYW tour.

As for the ticket prices I am expecting them to be in the 250 - 399 range. That is wayy to much money to be charging in this economy, but sadly people will pay. Everytime the Stones or Madonna go on tour at 299 - 350 per ticket the shows sell out so I don't expect this tour to be any different. They may have to book the tour in markets that can guarantee them a sell out (NYC, LA, VEGAS, etc) but I am sure that this will be successful. The only thing I wonder is if it will 40 + dates across the USA and Canada , or if it will be something similar to Tina's last tour where it was 25 shows in major markets that seemed the logical places for her to play and ensure a sell out.

I am looking at going to one show and that is all. They won't change the setlists I bet so there isn't really a need to see them over and over again.

Matt

[michelej1]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! At least the Eagles put out that new album a couple years back!

The only thing that would help the pain is if Lindsey did some bartering and said he'd do this, if they got a new album. He could use the Eagles as an excuse too and say they have newer music than FM and that he'd be ashamed to go out on the road with them having only Rumours. So, maybe if he acted like this was a big compromise for him, it would give him a little leverage in his campaign to get a new album. It will look like everyone sacrificed a little -- not that making millions of dollars by agreeing to this is a sacrifice for any of them, but Lindsey could pretend like it is, just to manipulate his bandmates a bit.

If we get a new album, then I'll stop sobbing.

Michele

[michelej1]

Do FM fans think that their set will be anything more than the Greatest Hits as well?

Our set is the greatest hits. In fact, they perform the biggest of the greatest hits twice during the night. So, on a double bill, we'd get Dreams, Go Your Own Way and two versions of Don't Stop.

Plus some sort of Heartache Tonight duet with both bands, featuring a drum off between Don and Mick.

Michele

[LukeA]

Our set is the greatest hits. In fact, they perform the biggest of the greatest hits twice during the night. So, on a double bill, we'd get Dreams, Go Your Own Way and two versions of Don't Stop.

Plus some sort of Heartache Tonight duet with both bands, featuring a drum off between Don and Mick.

Michele

Well, cut me a slice of that.

[Christopher]

I am seriously disappointed!!!This better not happen. What a sell out!!!:shocked:
C'mon Lindsey & Stevie! The fans want a new CD. PERIOD!! Enough of the greatest hits nostalgia. I can't believe Lindsey would be down 4 this....I mean, he caved this time to touring w/o new material out...but an EVEN BIGGER sell out!! Give me a break!!!

If this happens I will not attend, because this is not about the fans...it's about money. This will be the 1st time in 30 yrs...I have not gone to see a Stevie Nicks or FM tour!:(

[77Rumours77]

Why? Because they quoted a glorified speculative focus group survey? Show some discretion before making such foolish assumptions.

Wow, Your a dickhead. Now I realized why I stopped posting here.

Just posting what I saw

[David]

If this happens I will not attend, because this is not about the fans...it's about money.
The two terms ("fans" & "money") are synonyms.

[seekerj]

Kill me now. Just kill me now. I don't even have the energy for this.


Michele

Michele, as usual, your post says it all.

[LukeA]

As for the ticket prices I am expecting them to be in the 250 - 399 range. That is wayy to much money to be charging in this economy, but sadly people will pay. Everytime the Stones or Madonna go on tour at 299 - 350 per ticket the shows sell out so I don't expect this tour to be any different. They may have to book the tour in markets that can guarantee them a sell out (NYC, LA, VEGAS, etc) but I am sure that this will be successful. The only thing I wonder is if it will 40 + dates across the USA and Canada , or if it will be something similar to Tina's last tour where it was 25 shows in major markets that seemed the logical places for her to play and ensure a sell out.

Re:Madonna.. her last few tours have been propped up by amateur scalpers- most of whom took a bath and ended up practically giving the tickets away. All indications point to this Eagles/FM tour being the same way- there's no sense paying full face value to a stadium show unless you're in the first 10 rows.

I honestly don't know how they're going to pull off arena dates and make them appealing to Eagles. I used Streisand/'05 as a price point example earlier- perhaps a better example is what Simon & Garfunkel did in '03/'04 (top ticket was $350 in most markets- about 30% of the house). Although can anyone really suggest/expect Eagles/FM to be as big of a draw as that S&G reunion tour?

As for stadiums, there will be cheaper tickets available- probably as low as $40-$50 (not that you'll be able to hear/see much from those seats) The best 18-20K seats for a stadium show will probably cost, on average, $250.

I'm just as incredulous as anyone that we're talking about this as if its a real possibility. Its no secret that The Little Emperor has been dreaming of this tour for a long time... and now that he finally runs just about everything & everyone, I think we're going to see more and more of these big tours. Van Halen w/DLR was just the tip of the iceberg... a full fledged GN'R reunion is probably in the cards, too. All during the ****tiest economy in 30+ years.

[DavidMn]

David--

I've seen Fleetwood Mac one time. It was okay. I enjoyed LB's guitar playing. Granted, my seats sucked, but I wouldn't rank the show as one of my favorites.

I don't think the animosity is toward FM per se...but toward the fact that the bill will be split. Over the last few years, the Eagles setlist has become a "greatest hits" collection with the new songs slowly being removed from the setlist and even the acoustic set (with some of the standout performances of the evening) being cut for time.

Having to share the bill with anyone will create even more cuts and reduce the chance of anything interesting happening.

Do FM fans think that their set will be anything more than the Greatest Hits as well?I would say it will probably be the same for both sides. I must admit the more I think about this idea, the more interesting it is, to me at least.

[DavidMn]

Ok lets take a look at the facts. Now I will fully admit that the Eagles are a bigger draw than Fleetwood Mac. However, and I dont have the facts in front of me, is you take Geratest hits 1 out of the equation and just compare sales of the actual studio albums side to side, If memory serves me right, the sales are very comparable if not almost even. Maybe someone could post the sales totals? I would be very interested to see that.

[LukeA]

Ok lets take a look at the facts. Now I will fully admit that the Eagles are a bigger draw than Fleetwood Mac. However, and I dont have the facts in front of me, is you take Geratest hits 1 out of the equation and just compare sales of the actual studio albums side to side, If memory serves me right, the sales are very comparable if not almost even. Maybe someone could post the sales totals? I would be very interested to see that.

Thumbnail sketch... as far as the US goes, Eagles have been certified for 100M units (albums)- Fleetwood Mac, less than half that (48.5). (Source- http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=tblTopArt)

Eagles Greatest Hits (biggest selling album in US history) is currently at 29M. So, minus that from 100... and its still Eagles 71, FM 48.5.

When you minus FM's Greatest Hits, AKA Rumours (ba-dum-bum-ching), which certs' at 19, FM's certified total goes down to 29.5.

Granted, this is all pretty general and not perfect analysis... but when you combine these basic facts with the fact that Eagles still have all the principals of their heyday in their touring band along with the fact that they are WAY more successful of a touring act than FM, I don't know how anyone could make an argument that Fleetwood Mac (2010 version) is anywhere even close to being on par with the Eagles in terms of power/success.

[Erin]

At this point (if this is really going to happen), I'm wondering about the set up. Fleetwood Mac likes having people right at the stage. The Eagles do not, as far as I remember. I saw them back in 2003 and they had a barrier in front of the front row, which I thought was really sh*tty thing to do. I enjoyed the Eagles show for the music (I've never seen a tighter live band), but man were they boring as personalities (okay Joe Walsh at least made an attempt to be entertaining). Glenn Frey thanking the staff at Gibson's was a real highlight of the evening.:laugh:

I would feel better about this if there were some musical interaction between the bands. That could actually be interesting or a mess, but either way entertaining! I know this will never happen but what if they all did an a cappella version of Seven Bridges Road and Farmer's Daughter all together? That could make for some interesting harmonies.

[sodascouts]

If this is just a short summer tour, I don't see what folks are so up in arms about. Both bands are also doing full-length shows you can attend if you don't like the idea of the double-bill. I see it as the best of both worlds - want a full show, see one. Want a combo show, see one.

It is true that the Eagles are more popular in terms of ticket sales as a rule. However, as someone who has attended multiple shows by both bands at the exact same venues, I can assure you the disparity between the two is hardly mammoth when it comes to filling up the house. There will be no "leaving in droves."

Luke, the Eagles are missing Randy Meisner and Don Felder from their Hotel California heydey line-up. They have the biggies - Don Henley and Glenn Frey - but so does Fleetwood Mac with Stevie and Lindsey, so I see the line-up situations as quite comparable.

[LukeA]

It is true that the Eagles are more popular in terms of ticket sales as a rule. However, as someone who has attended multiple shows by both bands at the exact same venues, I can assure you the disparity between the two is hardly mammoth when it comes to filling up the house.

Yes, its true that FM & Eagles could both do multiples at, say, Allstate Arena in Rosemont, and have them both do very well (the 2 SYW Rosemont shows in June '03 did very well). However, only one could go to, say, Evansville, IN and easily gross $1.2M+. Eagles have a far broader appeal in more areas of the country than FM- that's why they're in a totally different stratosphere than FM touring-wise.

Luke, the Eagles are missing Randy Meisner and Don Felder from their Hotel California heydey line-up.

I know, but I don't think the casual Eagles fan misses them nearly as much as the casual Fleetwood Mac fan misses Christine.

[LukeA]

At this point (if this is really going to happen), I'm wondering about the set up. Fleetwood Mac likes having people right at the stage. The Eagles do not, as far as I remember. I saw them back in 2003 and they had a barrier in front of the front row, which I thought was really sh*tty thing to do.

The stages at stadium shows are considerably further back from the audience & higher than at arena shows in order to maximize visibility. You're not going to be able to rest your arms against the stage at any of these shows.

[sodascouts]

At this point (if this is really going to happen), I'm wondering about the set up. Fleetwood Mac likes having people right at the stage. The Eagles do not, as far as I remember. I saw them back in 2003 and they had a barrier in front of the front row, which I thought was really sh*tty thing to do.

I think the bands will alternate.

When the Eagles go first, it won't be a problem. They can deal with people being at the stage for encores.

If the Mac goes first, the Eagles can either use this opportunity to remember what it feels like to have people at the stage throughout the concert (this did happen at some recent European concerts), or attempt to get security to force everyone back to their seats during intermission. Of course, they can also tell FM to stop letting their fans up there in the first place.

I would feel better about this if there were some musical interaction between the bands. That could actually be interesting or a mess, but either way entertaining!

That will make the freaking show!

[CADreaming]

I would feel better about this if there were some musical interaction between the bands. That could actually be interesting or a mess, but either way entertaining! I know this will never happen but what if they all did an a cappella version of Seven Bridges Road and Farmer's Daughter all together? That could make for some interesting harmonies.

Bunk that! I wanna see LB playing guitar for Stevie and Don on L&L. ROFLOL!!
:lol:

PRICELESS.

[LukeA]

Bunk that! I wanna see LB playing guitar for Stevie and Don on L&L. ROFLOL!!
:lol:

PRICELESS.

Ugh. And you know its going to happen, too.

[sodascouts]

Lindsey was already forced to play guitar on L&L at the City of Hope benefit in 1982, when the wounds were a lot more raw. He can suck it up and play guitar on L&L now, too! ;)

[sodascouts]

Yes, its true that FM & Eagles could both do multiples at, say, Allstate Arena in Rosemont, and have them both do very well (the 2 SYW Rosemont shows in June '03 did very well). However, only one could go to, say, Evansville, IN and easily gross $1.2M+. Eagles have a far broader appeal in more areas of the country than FM- that's why they're in a totally different stratosphere than FM touring-wise.

Good point, but from what you've said earlier, the double-bill probably won't be hitting markets like Evansville. The audiences that came to Rosemont for FM will come to Soldier's Field for them as well, so I still feel there won't be a huge disparity between the amount of Mac fans and the amount of Eagles fans at these shows.

I know, but I don't think the casual Eagles fan misses them nearly as much as the casual Fleetwood Mac fan misses Christine.

True. Felder never was a frontman and Meisner's only hit, Take It to the Limit, is now performed with Glenn Frey on lead vocals.

[LukeA]

Good point, but from what you've said earlier, the double-bill probably won't be hitting markets like Evansville. The audiences that came to Rosemont for FM will come to Soldier's Field for them as well, so I still feel there won't be a huge disparity between the amount of Mac fans and the amount of Eagles fans at these shows.

I can see your point, but I still can't get around the fact that there are many more Eagles fans than FM fans. Or, to put it differently, the presence of Eagles will be the deciding factor for many more casual fans/curious folks than the presence of FM- especially those traveling from a great distance (like Evansville) for one of these big stadium shows.

[golddustdrummer]

Good point, but from what you've said earlier, the double-bill probably won't be hitting markets like Evansville. The audiences that came to Rosemont for FM will come to Soldier's Field for them as well, so I still feel there won't be a huge disparity between the amount of Mac fans and the amount of Eagles fans at these shows.



haha yeah, our "arena" hasn't even broke ground yet! maybe in 2015 we'll have big name acts. Until then, I don't think I can stomach another Three Doors Down/Staind/Disturbed show at Roberts Stadium. vom. anyhoo, I'm so psyched for the potential FM/Eagles tour! :thumbsup:

[Erin]

How about Lindsey and Don singing L&L to each other while Stevie twirls in the background? I would pay to see that!

[tilthefirefades]

How about Lindsey and Don singing L&L to each other while Stevie twirls in the background? I would pay to see that!

ahahaha! yes!

[vivfox]

The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac touring in 2010 together?!
Posted in: Uncategorized
That’s the rumor anyway. Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles together in one venue. What a show! They are already supposedly booking one off dates in big football and baseball stadiums where they will do several nights in a row, so I don’t expect them to come to Portland. Maybe top 10 cities and they stay there for several nights. Wouldn’t it be cool though to have them here at the Rose Garden Arena?

Here’s the funniest thought if this tour does indeed happen. Stevie Nicks will be sharing a stage with four ex-lovers.

http://blogs.kgon.com/irisharrison/2009/12/15/the-eagles-and-fleetwood-mac-touring-in-2010-together/

[vivfox]

Eagles and Fleetwood Mac: Coming to Arrowhead?
It could happen, according to LiveDaily. When super-groups start putting together ensemble tours, something large is afoot. It's back to the future all over again: Summer Jams in the Y2Ks.

http://backtorockville.typepad.com/back_to_rockville/2009/12/eagles-and-fleetwood-mac-coming-to-arrowhead.html

[vivfox]

The Literary Exhibitionist - Matthew's Top Albums of the Decade
By The Literary Exhibitionist
Stevie seems to be jumping on the bandwagon of a disappointing trend of artists going on tour just for the sake of touring, with no new material to promote -- which Fleetwood Mac did (with Stevie) in 2009 as well. ...
The Literary Exhibitionist - http://machupicchu.livejournal.com/

[vivfox]

Next summer will be a dream come true for soft rock fans, as the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac will hit the road together. Premiere Radio has confirmed that plans are under way for the two groups to do one-off shows in football and baseball stadiums, and multiple nights in arenas. If this happens, it will be the first time since July 1976 in Foxboro, Massachusetts that the two bands shared a stage. Stevie Nicks and Don Henley played a few shows together in 2005, the same year a tour between the two groups was first proposed. If this tour comes together, Stevie Nicks will be sharing the stage with four ex-boyfriends: Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Don Henley and Joe Walsh.

http://www.tommieandthebartender.com/2009/12/15/tuesday-rock-roundup-2/

[LukeA]

Next summer will be a dream come true for soft rock fans, as the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac will hit the road together. Premiere Radio has confirmed that plans are under way for the two groups to do one-off shows in football and baseball stadiums, and multiple nights in arenas. If this happens, it will be the first time since July 1976 in Foxboro, Massachusetts that the two bands shared a stage. Stevie Nicks and Don Henley played a few shows together in 2005, the same year a tour between the two groups was first proposed. If this tour comes together, Stevie Nicks will be sharing the stage with four ex-boyfriends: Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Don Henley and Joe Walsh.

http://www.tommieandthebartender.com/2009/12/15/tuesday-rock-roundup-2/

The only thing Premiere Radio can confirm is that they read the LiveDaily piece and basically copied & pasted its contents.

The most convincing information we've heard thus far is HenleyFan's confirmation that there is weight to this story. Whether it becomes a done deal? Who knows. The Rumours re-issue was supposedly a done deal (even mentioned in countless press-releases, and almost held up as the impetus for the Unleashed tour), and we all know how that turned out.

All this speculation is making my head hurt, though.

[DavidMn]

Thumbnail sketch... as far as the US goes, Eagles have been certified for 100M units (albums)- Fleetwood Mac, less than half that (48.5). (Source- http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=tblTopArt)

Eagles Greatest Hits (biggest selling album in US history) is currently at 29M. So, minus that from 100... and its still Eagles 71, FM 48.5.

When you minus FM's Greatest Hits, AKA Rumours (ba-dum-bum-ching), which certs' at 19, FM's certified total goes down to 29.5.

Granted, this is all pretty general and not perfect analysis... but when you combine these basic facts with the fact that Eagles still have all the principals of their heyday in their touring band along with the fact that they are WAY more successful of a touring act than FM, I don't know how anyone could make an argument that Fleetwood Mac (2010 version) is anywhere even close to being on par with the Eagles in terms of power/success.Well, I wasnt sure, and I figured you would provide the facts. I fully admit the Eagles would be the bigger draw and thats just the way it is.:)

[DavidMn]

Ok so let's talk logistics. How long would each set be? I'm guessing 90-100 minutes. More importantly though, is how long in between sets? For example how are they going to work the 2 bands equipment issues out? I mean this isnt exactly some nobody band opening up where their drums and amps etc can just be hauled off the stage in 5min.:confused:

[vivfox]

Ok so let's talk logistics. How long would each set be? I'm guessing 90-100 minutes. More importantly though, is how long in between sets? For example how are they going to work the 2 bands equipment issues out? I mean this isnt exactly some nobody band opening up where their drums and amps etc can just be hauled off the stage in 5min.:confused:

I have a good idea. Each band on both sides of the football field. Two stages. The Eagles perform a song then everybody turns around and Fleetwood Mac performs a song. Then everybody turns around and well you get the idea. But which way would you turn David when Stevie and Don sing Leather and Lace across the stadium to each other? Well it really doesn't matter you may think to yourself cause you'll probably attend 17 shows and so you'll figure it out when you get there.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

I have a good idea. Each band on both sides of the football field. Two stages. The Eagles perform a song then everybody turns around and Fleetwood Mac performs a song. Then everybody turns around and well you get the idea.

lol...the visual of that is quite funny! :thumbsup:

[StreetAngel86]

This is bad, very very bad! Either get into the studio or split up! It's that simple!

they're totally gonna split up after THIS tour if it eventuates
bye bye new studio album :(

this SUCKS

How about Lindsey and Don singing L&L to each other while Stevie twirls in the background? I would pay to see that!


:lol: :lol:

Linds and Don can do background vocals and hand gestures during Sara :laugh:

I think Don should sing Rhiannon and Lindsey and Stevie can go around flapping bat wings everywhere :wavey:

i do like the idea of each band at one end each of the football stadium
tho i can see some rivalry happening
hotel california starts...stevie starts singing away
lindsey...behind her is shooting daggers
he thinks #$&) this and turns his guitar up super loud
and starts GYOW :laugh:

[Fleetwoodmark]

This will be the end of Fleetwood Mac.

Nice having you :(

[HenleyFan]

A friend of ours who works for the Eagles told us a long time ago we should always remember this when it comes to the band:

Nothing is fact in Eagle Land until it is.



The only thing Premiere Radio can confirm is that they read the LiveDaily piece and basically copied & pasted its contents.

The most convincing information we've heard thus far is HenleyFan's confirmation that there is weight to this story. Whether it becomes a done deal? Who knows. The Rumours re-issue was supposedly a done deal (even mentioned in countless press-releases, and almost held up as the impetus for the Unleashed tour), and we all know how that turned out.

All this speculation is making my head hurt, though.

[FMlex]

Wow... you guys need to chill out.

You honestly think they're going to break up after this tour happens? Wow. Way to keep the faith!

[Fleetwoodmark]

I think alot of people are missing the point.

FM have just finished a "Greatest Hits" tour.....who would shell out a whole wad of cash to see the same thing again.

We want a new bloody album not another tour.

[Spikey]

I think alot of people are missing the point.

FM have just finished a "Greatest Hits" tour.....who would shell out a whole wad of cash to see the same thing again.

We want a new bloody album not another tour.

Especially not with Eagles, who FM tried during the 70's to NOT become! That's why we all love Tusk, right??


As for 90-100 minute sets, that makes total lenth 180-200 minutes, over 3 hours. Doubtful. I'm going more towards 60-odd minute sets, pure 'best of' material. 3/4 of FM's set would be Rumours.


As for me.. i'm still crossing my fingers and toes hoping this disaster won't make it. I still have the faith, i'm sure there'll be another album in late 2010/2011.
if not, we have more LB to look forward to, after SN/FM/Eagles are done and dusted.

- Spike

[HenleyFan]

We're hearing it's going to be about a 4 hour show total.

It's looking like late summer at a handful of stadiums on both coasts.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

[Spikey]

We're hearing it's going to be about a 4 hour show total.

It's looking like late summer at a handful of stadiums on both coasts.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

4 hours? Aaaaaaargh!!

[tilthefirefades]

to me this is simply horrible. i have never got the chance to see FM, due to ticket prices, and that they have yet to come near me. and now with this, all hope is lost. :distress: but there is still that glimmer in the distance of a new album.

[BigAl84]

4 hours? Aaaaaaargh!!

Hahaha oh god can I hear it already..complete with inaccurate dates..

"we just completed twenty dates with the eagles, twenty dates!. Not only was it amazing but it was absolutely exhausting. What people don't realize you know is that you know it was like a 4 hour show. Our set might only be 90 minutes, but we're backstage getting ready all afternoon before the show, I had to have custom boots made because I seriously thought I was going to die. Lindsey, you know lindsey doesn't have to worry about anything, he has his cool leather jacket and pants and he's ready to go, but i've got the dress, the boots....I mean Karen and I looked at each other every night like "how are we ever going to pull this off!?" Plus you know, these are large, absolutely daunting stadiums that we haven't played since I think 1978 or something, there are 50+ thousand people out there expecting a great show, so if we don't put 120% of ourselves into each show and really make it exciting, we're just going to look like...I don't know...like ants on a log!"

[Erin]

We're hearing it's going to be about a 4 hour show total.

It's looking like late summer at a handful of stadiums on both coasts.

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

Sweet, are they skipping Chicago and the midwest in general? My wallet is very happy to hear this!

[HenleyFan]

All we've heard so far is: Dodger Stadium, Pac Bell in San Francisco, the New Meadowlands, and the stadium in Philadelpia. That doesn't mean they won't do the midwest.

Sweet, are they skipping Chicago and the midwest in general? My wallet is very happy to hear this!

[JeannieKartis]

Next summer will be a dream come true for soft rock fans, as the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac will hit the road together. Premiere Radio has confirmed that plans are under way for the two groups to do one-off shows in football and baseball stadiums, and multiple nights in arenas. If this happens, it will be the first time since July 1976 in Foxboro, Massachusetts that the two bands shared a stage. Stevie Nicks and Don Henley played a few shows together in 2005, the same year a tour between the two groups was first proposed. If this tour comes together, Stevie Nicks will be sharing the stage with four ex-boyfriends: Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Don Henley and Joe Walsh.

http://www.tommieandthebartender.com/2009/12/15/tuesday-rock-roundup-2/

football and baseball stadiums?? are they kidding?? they're going to charge so much for tix that they'll be lucky if they fill 1/2 of those places...and forget about a meet and greet package,(which I have purchased) they will be out of sight!

[Erin]

All we've heard so far is: Dodger Stadium, Pac Bell in San Francisco, the New Meadowlands, and the stadium in Philadelpia. That doesn't mean they won't do the midwest.

Crap.:laugh:

Thank you for the info, we've still heard nothing from the FM camp. Shocker.

[michelej1]

"we just completed twenty dates with the eagles, twenty dates!. Not only was it amazing but it was absolutely exhausting. What people don't realize you know is that you know it was like a 4 hour show. Our set might only be 90 minutes, but we're backstage getting ready all afternoon before the show, I had to have custom boots made because I seriously thought I was going to die. Lindsey, you know lindsey doesn't have to worry about anything, he has his cool leather jacket and pants and he's ready to go, but i've got the dress, the boots....I mean Karen and I looked at each other every night like "how are we ever going to pull this off!?" Plus you know, these are large, absolutely daunting stadiums that we haven't played since I think 1978 or something, there are 50+ thousand people out there expecting a great show, so if we don't put 120% of ourselves into each show and really make it exciting, we're just going to look like...I don't know...like ants on a log!"


Oh you could totally impersonate her! Michele

[JeannieKartis]

Crap.:laugh:

Thank you for the info, we've still heard nothing from the FM camp. Shocker.

and we won't hear anything from them until tix are actually on sale...

[Spikey]

Hahaha oh god can I hear it already..complete with inaccurate dates..

"we just completed twenty dates with the eagles, twenty dates!. Not only was it amazing but it was absolutely exhausting. What people don't realize you know is that you know it was like a 4 hour show. Our set might only be 90 minutes, but we're backstage getting ready all afternoon before the show, I had to have custom boots made because I seriously thought I was going to die. Lindsey, you know lindsey doesn't have to worry about anything, he has his cool leather jacket and pants and he's ready to go, but i've got the dress, the boots....I mean Karen and I looked at each other every night like "how are we ever going to pull this off!?" Plus you know, these are large, absolutely daunting stadiums that we haven't played since I think 1978 or something, there are 50+ thousand people out there expecting a great show, so if we don't put 120% of ourselves into each show and really make it exciting, we're just going to look like...I don't know...like ants on a log!"
Hey, thanks so much :) You just made my day over here in Tulsa. :laugh: Makes me less depressed about this debacle.

[BigAl84]

Hey, thanks so much :) You just made my day over here in Tulsa. :laugh: Makes me less depressed about this debacle.

Hahah well i'm glad it at least lightened the moment. You know darn well thats how its going to all go down. Who gets the black eye first, Lindsey? or Don!?

Will Stevie and Joe get that 'ol feeling again?

Hahaha oh.my.

[BellaDonna]

Wow.. all of them..there at one time.. I can not even imagine...!!!! I hope they come close to me :distress:

[MacMan]

I cannot see the boomers hanging around a stadium at a concert for 4 hours!... I mean, I'm no boomer, but I do know that 2 or 2.5 hours at a concert is a lot to take when you are older.

[Lindsfan]

Linds and Don can do background vocals and hand gestures during Sara :laugh:

That's a good one! :laugh::laugh:

[Lindsfan]

I think Don should sing Rhiannon and Lindsey and Stevie can go around flapping bat wings everywhere :wavey:

i do like the idea of each band at one end each of the football stadium
tho i can see some rivalry happening
hotel california starts...stevie starts singing away
lindsey...behind her is shooting daggers
he thinks #$&) this and turns his guitar up super loud
and starts GYOW :laugh:

LMAO here...I can totally see it!

:laugh::D

[vivfox]

Fleetwood Mac & The Eagles Eying Joint Summer Stadium Tour
By: Howie Edelson

Promoters are pitching a joint Fleetwood Mac/Eagles Sumner tour of stadium and arenas to venue operators and promoters across the U.S., according to livedaily.com. The site reports that "the double bill is being considered for a combination of single nights in baseball and football stadiums and multiple nights in arenas." No dates have been announced, but industry insiders are suggesting that the show will undoubtedly pack stadiums of up to 70,000 at every venue the tour plays. So far there's been no word as to when an announcement will be made.

Throughout their '70s heyday, the groups'kept up a friendly rivalry while vying for the top spot as California's hottest rock band. Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles have only played on the same bill twice -- on July 25th, 1976, in Foxboro, Massachusetts at Schaefer Stadium; and on January 12th, 1998 when both bands performed at New York;'s Waldorf Astoria for their respective inductions into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Don Henley and Stevie Nicks were romantically linked back in the late '70s, and scored a 1981 Top Ten hit with their duet "Leather And Lace." The pair went on to tour with each other in 2005. Henley shed some light on his deep friendship with Nicks: "We go back a long way. We don't see very much of each other these days. I mean, she's got her life and I've got mine, and there's certainly nothing going on here on a romantic level. But we're friends. We feel like we've been through a lot of the same things in our careers."

Nicks was asked how, after so many years as a working unit, Fleetwood Mac is able to still deliver at the top of their game with each new road trek: "It stays fresh because we never stop playing. Y'know, basically what we are is entertainers. Even if this band had never made it big, we'd be playing all the clubs, we'd be playing all the clubs in Europe, we'd be still doing that because what we really are is entertainers. So when we go onstage -- we're performers. We're performance artists, that's what we do. So it isn't a question of keeping it fresh because it's what we love. We don't basically have anything else to do."

Fleetwood Mac performs tonight (December 16th) in Boondall, Australia.

The Eagles will play their first-ever shows at L.A.'s Hollywood Bowl on March 16th, 17th, and 20th.

http://www.kbsradio.ca/news/music/87/1039216

[JeannieKartis]

Fleetwood Mac & The Eagles Eying Joint Summer Stadium Tour
By: Howie Edelson

Promoters are pitching a joint Fleetwood Mac/Eagles Sumner tour of stadium and arenas to venue operators and promoters across the U.S., according to livedaily.com. The site reports that "the double bill is being considered for a combination of single nights in baseball and football stadiums and multiple nights in arenas." No dates have been announced, but industry insiders are suggesting that the show will undoubtedly pack stadiums of up to 70,000 at every venue the tour plays. So far there's been no word as to when an announcement will be made.

Throughout their '70s heyday, the groups'kept up a friendly rivalry while vying for the top spot as California's hottest rock band. Fleetwood Mac and the Eagles have only played on the same bill twice -- on July 25th, 1976, in Foxboro, Massachusetts at Schaefer Stadium; and on January 12th, 1998 when both bands performed at New York;'s Waldorf Astoria for their respective inductions into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Don Henley and Stevie Nicks were romantically linked back in the late '70s, and scored a 1981 Top Ten hit with their duet "Leather And Lace." The pair went on to tour with each other in 2005. Henley shed some light on his deep friendship with Nicks: "We go back a long way. We don't see very much of each other these days. I mean, she's got her life and I've got mine, and there's certainly nothing going on here on a romantic level. But we're friends. We feel like we've been through a lot of the same things in our careers."

Nicks was asked how, after so many years as a working unit, Fleetwood Mac is able to still deliver at the top of their game with each new road trek: "It stays fresh because we never stop playing. Y'know, basically what we are is entertainers. Even if this band had never made it big, we'd be playing all the clubs, we'd be playing all the clubs in Europe, we'd be still doing that because what we really are is entertainers. So when we go onstage -- we're performers. We're performance artists, that's what we do. So it isn't a question of keeping it fresh because it's what we love. We don't basically have anything else to do."

Fleetwood Mac performs tonight (December 16th) in Boondall, Australia.

The Eagles will play their first-ever shows at L.A.'s Hollywood Bowl on March 16th, 17th, and 20th.

http://www.kbsradio.ca/news/music/87/1039216

70,000?? what, are they gonna play at the georgia dome?? no way both of these groups are gonna sell 70,000 seats.......only the Beatles could do that....

[LukeA]

70,000?? what, are they gonna play at the georgia dome?? no way both of these groups are gonna sell 70,000 seats.......only the Beatles could do that....

Atlanta would be Turner Field, with a capacity of about 35,000.

[kak125]

heinz field here in pittsburgh holds over 65,000 people but for concerts i think its closer to 55,000 or so.

[JeannieKartis]

Atlanta would be Turner Field, with a capacity of about 35,000.

well according to the following quote from the article they're talking capacity of 70,00 and thats the georgia dome...they won't fill 35,000 either...


"No dates have been announced, but industry insiders are suggesting that the show will undoubtedly pack stadiums of up to 70,000 at every venue the tour plays"

[LukeA]

well according to the following quote from the article they're talking capacity of 70,00 and thats the georgia dome...they won't fill 35,000 either...


"No dates have been announced, but industry insiders are suggesting that the show will undoubtedly pack stadiums of up to 70,000 at every venue the tour plays"

They may very well play venues with 70,000 plus seats, but since they wouldn't be touring with a stage anywhere close to resembling U2's revolutionary current 360-degree setup, the actual seating capacity on the manifest will be dramatically lower.

[DavidMn]

They may very well play venues with 70,000 plus seats, but since they wouldn't be touring with a stage anywhere close to resembling U2's revolutionary current 360-degree setup, the actual seating capacity on the manifest will be dramatically lower.

How would they workout the equipment logistics? I.E getting Fleetwood Mac's stuff off the stage for the Eagles show or vise versa?

[LukeA]

How would they workout the equipment logistics? I.E getting Fleetwood Mac's stuff off the stage for the Eagles show or vise versa?

They'll surely use the same lighting/backdrop/etc... but as far as the equipment, I'm sure they will also try to make that as interchangeable as possible (even though Mick/Don clearly will have different kits, etc.). There will need to be an intermission (if only to give the boomers a rest & an opportunity to buy more beer & overpriced merchandise ;) ), but I imagine that the break between sets would be no more than 45 minutes. They'll work on getting the switchover down to a science- quite frankly, they have no other choice.

[sodascouts]

If they do an encore together - which would only make sense, because if they have no shared encore, the first band would be perceived as simply "opening" - then I was wondering what songs they could do. Here are some that came to mind:

Eagles songs

Take It Easy - a natural for an encore, the Eagles have arranged this for multiple singers before (check out Take It Easy with Linda Ronstadt and Jackson Browne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kTAT4vj_hI))

Heartache Tonight - they all could harmonize on the verses, Glenn Frey on lead vocal otherwise. Its fun, party feel would be great for the gang all hanging out on stage together.

Take It to the Limit - my fave Eagles song with Stevie and Lindsey on it - oh my gosh! Alternating verses with Glenn Frey and Lindsey. It's not as if Glenn originated the vocal anyway, so it's up for grabs to share, I say!

Life in the Fast Lane - applies to the Mac too certainly! Alternating leads on verses between Don Henley and Stevie. Joe Walsh and Lindsey could share lead guitar parts.

Witchy Woman - what a hoot to have Stevie dancing around as Don and Lindsey trade vocals about the woman who will "rock you in the nighttime 'til your skin turns red." It would be too cool (yeah, I know it's not ORIGINALLY about Stevie but it would be tons of fun to apply it to her). Heck, maybe Joe Walsh could even do a verse. He can relate, too...

Seven Bridges Road - for those unfamiliar with this song, it's straight-up multiple harmony throughout. It would be magnificent. Check it out here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-g5Uxdi4k).


Fleetwood Mac songs

Don't Stop - Instead of Stevie and Lindsey sharing the lead, it could be shared with Lindsey and perhaps Glenn Frey. I'd love to hear the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac all singing "oooooh.... don't you look back..." Joe and Lindsey could share lead guitar duties.

Say You Love Me - Lindsey has already re-arranged this song to be a song that features multiple harmonies and alternating leads. Just throw the Eagles into the mix! Stevie, Lindsey, and Don Henley could each do a verse.

Farmer's Daughter - I don't really like this song, but the layered harmony leads throughout would work. They haven't done it since 1980, though, so it would be a challenge.


Of course, they can throw in some covers and do whatever the heck they want, like Stevie did with Don during their encores for the Two Voices tour.

I think the possibilities are very exciting, and I will be very disappointed if they don't take advantage of the opportunity to perform at least a couple songs together.

[DavidMn]

If they do an encore together - which would only make sense, because if they have no shared encore, the first band would be perceived as simply "opening" - then I was wondering what songs they could do. Here are some that came to mind:

Eagles songs

Take It Easy - a natural for an encore, the Eagles have arranged this for multiple singers before (check out Take It Easy with Linda Ronstadt and Jackson Browne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kTAT4vj_hI))

Heartache Tonight - they all could harmonize on the verses, Glenn Frey on lead vocal otherwise. Its fun, party feel would be great for the gang all hanging out on stage together.

Take It to the Limit - my fave Eagles song with Stevie and Lindsey on it - oh my gosh! Alternating verses with Glenn Frey and Lindsey. It's not as if Glenn originated the vocal anyway, so it's up for grabs to share, I say!

Life in the Fast Lane - applies to the Mac too certainly! Alternating leads on verses between Don Henley and Stevie. Joe Walsh and Lindsey could share lead guitar parts.

Witchy Woman - what a hoot to have Stevie dancing around as Don and Lindsey trade vocals about the woman who will "rock you in the nighttime 'til your skin turns red." It would be too cool (yeah, I know it's not ORIGINALLY about Stevie but it would be tons of fun to apply it to her). Heck, maybe Joe Walsh could even do a verse. He can relate, too...

Seven Bridges Road - for those unfamiliar with this song, it's straight-up multiple harmony throughout. It would be magnificent. Check it out here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG-g5Uxdi4k).


Fleetwood Mac songs

Don't Stop - Instead of Stevie and Lindsey sharing the lead, it could be shared with Lindsey and perhaps Glenn Frey. I'd love to hear the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac all singing "oooooh.... don't you look back..." Joe and Lindsey could share lead guitar duties.

Say You Love Me - Lindsey has already re-arranged this song to be a song that features multiple harmonies and alternating leads. Just throw the Eagles into the mix! Stevie, Lindsey, and Don Henley could each do a verse.

Farmer's Daughter - I don't really like this song, but the layered harmony leads throughout would work. They haven't done it since 1980, though, so it would be a challenge.


Of course, they can throw in some covers and do whatever the heck they want, like Stevie did with Don during their encores for the Two Voices tour.

I think the possibilities are very exciting, and I will be very disappointed if they don't take advantage of the opportunity to perform at least a couple songs together.I like your ideas Nancy! Very intriguing indeed!:)

[Nicks Fan]

If I am not mistaken they did perform Farmer's Daughter on the Dance Tour as the last song after Songbird.

Matt

[MacMan]

If they do an encore together - which would only make sense, because if they have no shared encore, the first band would be perceived as simply "opening" - then I was wondering what songs they could do. Here are some that came to mind:

I'm almost thinking they'll have to do more then the encores together... They are really going to have to somehow blend so as not to make one feel or look like an opening act.... Plus, you'll have people there strictly to see FM and some only for the Eagles... To stop people from walking out after one has played, they are going to have to mesh together somehow to keep either audience interested... I think. That or flip flop opening spots to satisfy either side.

[LukeA]

I'm almost thinking they'll have to do more then the encores together... They are really going to have to somehow blend so as not to make one feel or look like an opening act.... Plus, you'll have people there strictly to see FM and some only for the Eagles... To stop people from walking out after one has played, they are going to have to mesh together somehow to keep either audience interested... I think. That or flip flop opening spots to satisfy either side.

Yes- they'll most definitely address this in the press release if/when they do announce the tour in order to assuage fans of both groups. It can't just be a straight-up double bill.

[HomerMcvie]

Yes- they'll most definitely address this in the press release if/when they do announce the tour in order to assuage fans of both groups. It can't just be a straight-up double bill.

If you look at the Journey/Heart/Cheap Trick shows, from two summers ago, while Cheap Trick was mostly looked at as an opening act(especially since it was still daylight for their set), BUT, Heart played a long, VERY IMPRESSIVE set. And while I guess they could technically be called an opener, I think everyone in the venue left, dragging their chins on the floor, after witnessing the POWER of that band. IMO, they were an opener, only by the time slot. They kicked major ass!

That said, I don't really know how FM can kick the Eagles ass. The Eagles have an 11 piece band, and most of the backup players sing, too! So really, Lindsey's playing is about the only thing that's "over the top". Then again, he's up against Joe Walsh, and the even more impressive Stuart(sp, he spells it funny, and I can't remember how) Smith.

So I don't see how FM CAN'T be seen as the opener. Yes, they are the soundtrack to my life, and a lifelong obsession, but I'm facing the facts. The Eagles are bigger, in every way.:sorry:

[MoonWaterPoet]

IF this does happen... and something to this magnitude... My discernment would be willing to predict that Christine McVie would might come back for this "Special Tour"...???


Donnie Wayne ~

[shebop]

Usually when two bands this popular, or egomaniacal tour together, they trade off who opens.......
So how many people would prefer to see Tom Petty instead of The Eagles on this bill?

[tilthefirefades]

Usually when two bands this popular, or egomaniacal tour together, they trade off who opens.......
So how many people would prefer to see Tom Petty instead of The Eagles on this bill?

that would be incredible!

[Spikey]

I love Tom, but I'd rather see Eagles.

Donnie: We can only wish and hope.

- Spike

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Tom will always get my vote. I wish it had been him :nod:

[sodascouts]

You know there would still be folks complaining if it were Tom.

The Eagles are the perfect band to tour with Fleetwood Mac. The two supergroups of the 70s in one awesome double-bill. I LOVE this.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

You know there would still be folks complaining if it were Tom.

Oh, absolutely...it just would have been more enjoyable for me is all :p

[Lee]

I'd much rather it be REO Speedwagon! Then it would be more clear who the opening act would be!......Well, if they are going to tour with someone else, how about Daryl Hall/John Oates?:laugh: If I'm going to pay massive money, I might as well see my two favorite groups!

Huh? This was my response when I heard this on my local, classic rock radio station. A lady called up & requested an Eagles song since the radio station announced that they were touring with Fleetwood Mac. News to me & I came right here. What happened to the new Mac album/tour coming? I love Hall & Oates; I think they with Fleetwood Mac would have been a better choice, at least for me, but the Eagles? And no offense to Henleyfan & all the Eagles fans, but when I saw Don with Stevie, I wasn't impressed. I've never seen the Eagles live & I really don't have no desire to though I like their music. I don't think it's a good mix. And I think something gets lost when they team up groups/artists together. And as someone has said, you're far away, the sound is bad in stadiums, etc. The tickets will be out of site price wise. Why would these bands do this? It has to be all about the money. :shrug:

Lee :shrug:

[HenleyFan]

No offense taken :)

But keep an open mind about the Eagles. A solo show by Henley is completely different from the Eagles.

Of course it's a lot about the money, but I think there are a few other considerations as well, as we mentioned before. None of these guys is getting any younger. Playing shorter sets, singing fewer songs......much easier on their old bones and vocal cords.

I wish they'd make the official announcement and end all the speculation, but we're still waiting for the rest of the Eagles April dates to come out so......the waiting continues......

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com


Huh? This was my response when I heard this on my local, classic rock radio station. A lady called up & requested an Eagles song since the radio station announced that they were touring with Fleetwood Mac. News to me & I came right here. What happened to the new Mac album/tour coming? I love Hall & Oates; I think they with Fleetwood Mac would have been a better choice, at least for me, but the Eagles? And no offense to Henleyfan & all the Eagles fans, but when I saw Don with Stevie, I wasn't impressed. I've never seen the Eagles live & I really don't have no desire to though I like their music. I don't think it's a good mix. And I think something gets lost when they team up groups/artists together. And as someone has said, you're far away, the sound is bad in stadiums, etc. The tickets will be out of site price wise. Why would these bands do this? It has to be all about the money. :shrug:

Lee :shrug:

[louielouie2000]

I just had a bit of a brain fart. I wonder if the band agreed to this pairing to get the word out/support a new/future album? After all, there's no better market for FM to tap into than the Eagles. It would potentially expose them to a large group of people, and help get the word out on the streets. Seems like the only way Lindsey would agree to such a venture, and seems like the only reason they'd agree to yet more touring after touring a year straight. I guess I'm just trying to grasp for some sort of positive spin here...

[mylittledemon]

I would never want to see an Eagles/Fleetwood double bill. I have no desire to see that particular... pairing.

Now if it was a "rock festival" with multiple bands like Petty? That'd be diff... :thumbsup:

[cactusjack]

I haven't read all 12 pages of this, but how about a double bill concert with Fleetwood Mac and....Stevie Nicks (solo) :D

[Peestie]

I haven't read all 12 pages of this, but how about a double bill concert with Fleetwood Mac and....Stevie Nicks (solo) :D

Better yet, Lindsey Buckingham doing an hour long set of only solo stuff (since the Mac stuff will be in the main set) as the opener for the show. He could rest for half an hour and then come back on for the full Mac show. :thumbsup:

[michelej1]

I just had a bit of a brain fart. I wonder if the band agreed to this pairing to get the word out/support a new/future album? After all, there's no better market for FM to tap into than the Eagles. It would potentially expose them to a large group of people, and help get the word out on the streets. Seems like the only way Lindsey would agree to such a venture, and seems like the only reason they'd agree to yet more touring after touring a year straight. I guess I'm just trying to grasp for some sort of positive spin here...

That is my hope too. I hope that Lindsey said he'd do this if Stevie said they coudl do a new album.

Peetsie, I love your idea. I'm afraid that so many people would be restless while Lindsey was performing that it would frustrate him (like opening for Tina Turner did), so I don't know if it would work. But I love the idea of having his solo work exposed to so many people. He might pick up a few new fans.

I just saw an ad for the Eagles tour dates in April, last night during the Letterman show.

Michele

[CADreaming]

I've got a gut feeling we'll being seeing some kind of release next year regardless of the Eagles pairing. The only thing that turns me off about that particular double billing is the thought of the ticket prices. Also, it is hard to imagine the egos being reigned in long enough to do anything together, but it would be worth paying a little extra to see them share the stage for a few songs...

The Tom Petty idea is also intriguing. I wish they'd get all the old compadres together and jam, or even do an acoustic set. It would be cool. Bring in Walter Egan and do Magnet and Steel and pay tribute to Warren and John Stewart - I'd love to heard Lindsey and Stevie do "Gold"....

But, I digress.... and this set would be entirely too long. I feel like we would all be missing more than a few songs we think are must-hears...

[louielouie2000]

I just don't know that a Mac/Tom Petty double billing makes a lot of sense, or would go over particularly well. Petty has always been continuously active in the recording industry, and I feel he has a much different fan base than the Mac. The Petty concert I went to several years back had a lot of frat boys, and generally white bread preppy people. Fleetwood Mac concerts are a big hodgepodge of people... but generally frat boys and preppies aren't among them. There is a bigger goth, alternative, gay and lesbian, and hippie following in the Mac than there are white folk in khaki shorts and polo shirts. :lol:

[CADreaming]

I just don't know that a Mac/Tom Petty double billing makes a lot of sense, or would go over particularly well. Petty has always been continuously active in the recording industry, and I feel he has a much different fan base than the Mac. The Petty concert I went to several years back had a lot of frat boys, and generally white bread preppy people. Fleetwood Mac concerts are a big hodgepodge of people... but generally frat boys and preppies aren't among them. There is a bigger goth, alternative, gay and lesbian, and hippie following in the Mac than there are white folk in khaki shorts and polo shirts. :lol:


LOL. Gotcha. I wasn't looking at it from a fan base perspective. I was totally thinking of their peers, and people they are connected to and have done music with throughout their careers. I just think it would be interesting to see them all onstage jamming - not necessarily a FM/Petty billing per se.

[LukeA]

I feel he has a much different fan base than the Mac. The Petty concert I went to several years back had a lot of frat boys, and generally white bread preppy people.

Are you sure you're not talking about Dave Matthews?

[holidayroad]

Huh? This was my response when I heard this on my local, classic rock radio station. A lady called up & requested an Eagles song since the radio station announced that they were touring with Fleetwood Mac. News to me & I came right here. What happened to the new Mac album/tour coming? I love Hall & Oates; I think they with Fleetwood Mac would have been a better choice, at least for me, but the Eagles? And no offense to Henleyfan & all the Eagles fans, but when I saw Don with Stevie, I wasn't impressed. I've never seen the Eagles live & I really don't have no desire to though I like their music. I don't think it's a good mix. And I think something gets lost when they team up groups/artists together. And as someone has said, you're far away, the sound is bad in stadiums, etc. The tickets will be out of site price wise. Why would these bands do this? It has to be all about the money. :shrug:

Lee :shrug:

Definitely Daryl Hall/John Oates would be a far better choice. They are different than FMac, but different in a way that they would not take away from each other by sharing a tour. I like The Eagles okay, but I feel Fleetwood Mac would get the short end of the deal in this. They don't need to lower themselves to 'opening act' status.

[LukeA]

Definitely Daryl Hall/John Oates would be a far better choice. They are different than FMac, but different in a way that they would not take away from each other by sharing a tour.

Yeah, but there's not enough money in that.

[DavidMn]

Well I can tell you that I definitely plan on going to the Dodger Stadium and SanFrancisco concerts if they come to fruition. At&T pak(formerly Pac Bell) in San Francisco is one of my favorite baseball parks Ive been to, just an incredible setting right on the bay. Others, I'll have to see. But I have to admit I'm getting more interestedf in this everyday.:nod: I wonder how much interaction the 2 bands would have before showtime and in between. That should be interesting, especially since Lindsey has gone on record dissing the Eagles from time to time.

[lilwing80]

Hall and Oates???! You have got to be KIDDING ME. Seriously. Really. I'd been dying by the end of Hall and Oates set ...I mean.....Man Eater?!

The other band I think of in the same era is The Eagles even ON THE CHARTS (Ahem. Rumours and Hotel California anyone?!). It IS logical. Pricey, yes, ...logical, yes.

[HomerMcvie]

Hall and Oates???! You have got to be KIDDING ME. Seriously. Really. I'd been dying by the end of Hall and Oates set ...I mean.....Man Eater?!

The other band I think of in the same era is The Eagles even ON THE CHARTS (Ahem. Rumours and Hotel California anyone?!). It IS logical. Pricey, yes, ...logical, yes.

IN their day, H&O kicked ass! I saw them with ELO(in junior high, I didn't even want to go, and my friend talked me into it), I left with, "OMG, that opening band was AWESOME!" Their harmonies, and G.E. Smith on guitar,...... I was a huge fan after that. I don't care much for their new stuff now, BUT, I can almost say the same of FM!
Yeah, some of their music doesn't stand the test of time very well, but some of it, does! Sara Smile, Rich Girl, Wait For Me... yeah, it's pop. Tell me that Stand Back isn't.

[shebop]

I just don't know that a Mac/Tom Petty double billing makes a lot of sense, or would go over particularly well. Petty has always been continuously active in the recording industry, and I feel he has a much different fan base than the Mac. The Petty concert I went to several years back had a lot of frat boys, and generally white bread preppy people. Fleetwood Mac concerts are a big hodgepodge of people... but generally frat boys and preppies aren't among them. There is a bigger goth, alternative, gay and lesbian, and hippie following in the Mac than there are white folk in khaki shorts and polo shirts. :lol:

Not the case in Los Angeles! I've seen these three bands numerous times since the 70's and the audiences have been interchangeable. I grew up an Eagles fan, but have been disappointed with their live show in recent years.
Now Petty? Never a bad show.......

[daniellaaarisen]

This honestly makes me want to cry. Fleetwood Mac isn't even finished with the current greatest hits tour.

I honestly feel like they are bull****ting around in order to avoid going back into the studio. They're riding off their Rumours fame until they literally can't sell a single ticket.

I mean, that's the pessimistic way to look at things.... but its definitely possible. They could be throwing the towel in on themselves.

I repeat: I want to cry.

[Peestie]

Peetsie, I love your idea. I'm afraid that so many people would be restless while Lindsey was performing that it would frustrate him (like opening for Tina Turner did), so I don't know if it would work. But I love the idea of having his solo work exposed to so many people. He might pick up a few new fans.

Michele

Oh yes, it could never work and Lindsey would end up flipping out at some point during the tour when people are still coming in and being loud when he plays an extended, super avant-garde version of Play In The Rain or when he's trying to give a speech about how his solo stuff is so unappreciated by the record company that he doesn't even know if his single is really a single. In the world inside my head everyone would be in the arena and quiet. They'd watch the show and love it and Lindsey would continue to put out solo albums to coincide with Mac cash-in tours since he knows he'd have a platform for them.

Pity it'll never happen. :(

This honestly makes me want to cry. Fleetwood Mac isn't even finished with the current greatest hits tour.

I honestly feel like they are bull****ting around in order to avoid going back into the studio. They're riding off their Rumours fame until they literally can't sell a single ticket.


That's what it feels like. I wasn't happy about the news that the Unleashed tour was greatest hits and this just drives that further him. As much as I enjoyed the Unleashed shows that I saw I'd have rather had new music and some tracks from SYW rather than ignoring it completely.

[Liza]

IN their day, H&O kicked ass! I saw them with ELO(in junior high, I didn't even want to go, and my friend talked me into it), I left with, "OMG, that opening band was AWESOME!" Their harmonies, and G.E. Smith on guitar,...... I was a huge fan after that. I don't care much for their new stuff now, BUT, I can almost say the same of FM!
Yeah, some of their music doesn't stand the test of time very well, but some of it, does! Sara Smile, Rich Girl, Wait For Me... yeah, it's pop. Tell me that Stand Back isn't.

I saw Fleetwood Mac years ago at Wembley Stadium and I think Manchester as well, and Hall and Oates were like a kind of support group, with another well known act (I can't remember who - dementia has set in!). It worked really well, but Fleetwood Mac were the 'big' act. That is not the case with the Mac and the Eagles. I am not sure I would want to watch the Eagles after sitting through a Mac concert - I like to go off and talk about the show and keep my memories!! and re live the concert. I wouldn't mind seeing the Eagles first though - strange it may seem.:nod:

[wheart]

This honestly makes me want to cry. Fleetwood Mac isn't even finished with the current greatest hits tour.

I honestly feel like they are bull****ting around in order to avoid going back into the studio. They're riding off their Rumours fame until they literally can't sell a single ticket.

I mean, that's the pessimistic way to look at things.... but its definitely possible. They could be throwing the towel in on themselves.

I repeat: I want to cry.

have a good cry. You'll feel much better.

[vivfox]

The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac Plan the Mother of All Classic Rock Concert Tours
December 19, 2009 by Ron Hart

The 1970's Rockers Prove Who Will Make it in the Long Run in 2010

Classic rock legends Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles are planning a summer tour that would bring the two 1970's rock legends together to play a series of concerts in football and baseball stadiums. It is not clear whether the Eagles or Fleetwood Mac would open the concert, nor is it clear who would close it. It also has not been announced whether or not the two bands would play together. No matter what the answers to these question, it would be undoubtedly an historic rock and roll event.

During their heyday, both the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac could sell out stadiums on their own if they announced that they would be singing the phone book. Even today, both acts are among the most popular rock bands on the concert circuit. As they combine forces, however, they will be easily the most most in demand ticket of the summer.

Rock and roll concerts have changed. There are really only a handful of acts, mostly older, at this point that can sell out large stadiums on their own. U2, Bruce Springsteen and maybe the Rolling Stones are the only bands that can still draw huge crowds. While the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac are huge draws on their own as well, generally their acts and music do not really translate to huge stadiums quite as well. Neither the Eagles nor Fleetwood Mac are rock spectacles, exactly. Both bands offer music that is lower key and even a bit more nuanced than the bombastic shows of U2 or Springsteen.

That said, both the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac are the authors of some of the signature anthems of rock and roll. There is nobody on the planet, it would seem, that doesn't immediately recognize the opening chords of the Eagles' Hotel California. Likewise, Fleetwood Mach has a seemingly inexhaustible catalogue of classic rock staples.

Of course, the 300 pound elephant in the room is the age of these bands and their fan bases. While both have fans across the age spectrum, the average age of each is well into the baby boomer range. It will be interesting, to say the least, to see sixty to seventy thousand greying (or greyed) baby boomers packing football stadiums rocking along one last time to the bands of their youth.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2507087/the_eagles_and_fleetwood_mac_plan_the.html?cat=33

[GypsyBlueEyes]

It will be interesting, to say the least, to see sixty to seventy thousand greying (or greyed) baby boomers packing football stadiums rocking along one last time to the bands of their youth

Good grief, do they have to make it sound so depressing??? :lol:

[holidayroad]

Yeah, but there's not enough money in that.

Probably not, but of course Fleetwood Mac doesn't care about money!:laugh:

[vivfox]

Saturday, December 19, 2009
Eagles, Fleetwood Mac To Tour Together In 2010
Next summer will be a dream come true for soft rock fans, as the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac will hit the road together. Plans are under way for the two groups to do one-off shows in football and baseball stadiums, and multiple nights in arenas. If this happens, it will be the first time since July 1976 in Foxboro, Massachusetts, that the two bands shared a stage.

Stevie Nicks and Don Henley played a few shows together in 2005, the same year a tour between the two groups was first proposed. If this tour comes together, Stevie Nicks will be sharing the stage with four ex-boyfriends -- Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, Don Henley and Joe Walsh.

http://vintagerocknews.blogspot.com/2009/12/eagles-fleetwood-mac-to-tour-together.html

[MoonWaterPoet]

I just had a bit of a brain fart. I wonder if the band agreed to this pairing to get the word out/support a new/future album? After all, there's no better market for FM to tap into than the Eagles. It would potentially expose them to a large group of people, and help get the word out on the streets. Seems like the only way Lindsey would agree to such a venture, and seems like the only reason they'd agree to yet more touring after touring a year straight. I guess I'm just trying to grasp for some sort of positive spin here...

I was having the same 'brain fart' as you, LOL!!! when I first heard this news... That it would be in support of a new album.


Donnie Wayne ~

[daniellaaarisen]

I'm holding onto two little remnants of hope:

1. Nothing's set in stone yet. All the rumours in the world can fly, but we still haven't heard anything concrete....
2. Maybe, JUST maybe, this will lead to a new album... but isn't that what we thought Unleashed was for?

I still want to cry.

[BellaDonna93]

I don't know what to say about this....
I don't know if it's good or bad...
But now I'm getting more unsure about them making a new album...?
Have to be a bad idea...
Tho I love The Eagles. But ALL WE WANT IS A NEW ALBUM AND I WANT FLEETWOOD MAC TO KNOW THAT!!!!!!!

[UnwindedDreams]

When should we expect an official announcement?

[gypsy4life]

I love both groups, but I am way more a fan of FM.
I have a few of concerns:
1. Tickets will be about $500 a piece for bad seats
2. How will these two major hit-making bands get along?
3. Will Stevie feel awkward with all these ex-lovers under one roof?
4. Will said awkwardness be too much for her, resulting in her quitting half way through? (although she's never been a quitter before)
5. Will the die hard fan base of each band be able to blend, or will it be like a sporting event in every venue. (I'm picture bare chested men with Eagles/Penguins painted on their torsos..lol)

[GavinBrown]

I would go see this, but I would still prefer Fleetwood Mac and Heart!

[mylittledemon]

I don't think Fleetwood Mac belongs on a double bill. There just seems to be something inherently wrong about that.

[HomerMcvie]

I would go see this, but I would still prefer Fleetwood Mac and Heart!

TRUST ME, there is NO WAY IN HELL, that FM could follow Heart, vocally, in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM! My gawd, it's like a bunch of old dogs, howling, compared to an opera singer. Trust me, on this. It would be the epitome of embarrassment for FM.

[daniellaaarisen]

TRUST ME, there is NO WAY IN HELL, that FM could follow Heart, vocally, in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM! My gawd, it's like a bunch of old dogs, howling, compared to an opera singer. Trust me, on this. It would be the epitome of embarrassment for FM.

I love Fleetwood Mac with all of my heart and soul and everything I hold dear in this world-- and yet I completely agree. The fact is that Heart has held up against time much better than Fleetwood Mac has primarily in terms of vocals, but even stage energy. They are slightly more inventive with their set lists, often adding up to five different phenomenal covers at each show I've been to (a total of four). I appreciate both bands live for very different reasons, and would obviously rather go to an FM show than a Heart show. But I think that Heart's faults (lack of variation) and Fleetwood Mac's faults (as listed above) would be accentuated by the other band on the bill.

[StandbackStevie]

I would definetly go to this show love both bands more of a FM fan than an eagle fan if they play stadiums i dont think the ticket prices would be that bad cause i think the bigger the venue the cheaper it should be. And I love Heart I think if Stevie on next tour pairs up with Heart would be an awesome show to have I love heart just as much as FM and Stevie Nicks and still stevie nicks is my favorite solo artists and FM is my favorite band. Hopefully they will have a new cd out or after the tour love to hear new music from FM and Stevie.

[brysondt]

I tried getting confirmation on this yesterday and apparently nothing has been officially decided yet, although it does seem to be a real possibility. Apparently, they're waiting on Stevie to make up her mind about it.

I don't feel real good about this either. I love The Eagles, though not as much as Fleetwood Mac, and I'd love to see them in concert, but NOT together. It's like--if you're an Eagles fan, you want to go to an Eagles concert and see 2 hours of the Eagles. If you're a Mac fan, you want to go to a concert and see 2 hours of the Mac...but when you combine the two, for me, I'm gonna feel cheated out of Mac time. However, I'm going to this show if it happens, haha, I'll just be angry. But I guess we should be really lucky that our favorite band is still performing, you know? They're great and could go on for years, but the reality is, they are getting older, and the mere fact that they're still rocking, whether it be solo or with the Eagles, is great.

I also think some really interesting things could come out of this show if it happens. Like--a lot of us haven't been able to see Stevie solo, especially performing with Don Henley, and I'm thinking a tour like this could open a lot of opportunity as far as the variety that we may see. I don't like that they are playing stupid arena's and stadiums, but it may just be okay. I'm liking that they may tour again instead of just chilling at home.

K--I said my 2 cents.

[Enchanted_Stevi]

I'm half and half on this. One I would REALLY REALLY loooooooooove to see The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac together cause I LOVE The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac and it would be an AMAZING concert!! Could you imagine the collaberation on some songs?!?! BUUUUUUUT seriously stadiums?!?! Given that it will probably give more seats so it wont get sold out super duper fast but seriously the prices will be INSANE!! Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles= BUNCHA DIVA'S!! Dont they know their fans arent all well off w/ money?!?! Especially in this economy.

[louielouie2000]

I don't think Fleetwood Mac belongs on a double bill. There just seems to be something inherently wrong about that.

Remind you a bit too much of that Fleetwood Mac/REO Speedwagon/Pat Benatar tour from '94? ;)

[jbrownsjr]

So let me get this straight... People are going to pay $250-$500 bucks to beef up their retirement funds, only to hear songs that have been played over and over on the radio for the last 30 years...

Add the fact that the vocals are anything but on point, and the acts are just so tired...

I don't get it...

I'd much rather see Lindsey or Stevie or Mick create solo works and tour on that creativity rather than the classic rock cash grab...

Produce something already!!!

[skcin]

Could you imagine the collaberation on some songs?!?!

Let's get real here - there won't be any collaboration. :shrug: That's the problem for me. I've seen both The Eagles & Mac doing their hits; don't know if I need to see them do them again unless they mix it up a bit & play on eachother's tunes or something. Not going to happen.

My priorities have changes immensely in the past year or so & there's no way I'm plunking down hundreds to see them again, with or without The Eagles. If this actually occurs, AND if something new happens with the show itself, AND if they come within 2 hours from here I might get some nosebleed tix.

[Spikey]

So let me get this straight... People are going to pay $250-$500 bucks to beef up their retirement funds, only to hear songs that have been played over and over on the radio for the last 30 years...

Add the fact that the vocals are anything but on point, and the acts are just so tired...

I don't get it...

I'd much rather see Lindsey or Stevie or Mick create solo works and tour on that creativity rather than the classic rock cash grab...

Produce something already!!!
JB, you're missing the point, it's the must-see rock event for classic/soft-rock fans of all time.. or something. :laugh:


This becomes more like a bad joke every time I hear it. It's like all the Tiger Woods jokes going around, but I *like* FM. Well, I like Eagles, but I don't want to see the 2 paired, EVER, and I can't imagine sitting for 4 hours. The 2.5 hour Unleashed concert almost nummified my butt (and killed my vocal chords).

- Spike

[GypsyBlueEyes]

JB, you're missing the point, it's the must-see rock event for classic/soft-rock fans of all time...or something.

yeah, the "or something" pretty much covers it :thumbsup:

[JeannieKartis]

I tried getting confirmation on this yesterday and apparently nothing has been officially decided yet, although it does seem to be a real possibility. Apparently, they're waiting on Stevie to make up her mind about it.

I don't feel real good about this either. I love The Eagles, though not as much as Fleetwood Mac, and I'd love to see them in concert, but NOT together. It's like--if you're an Eagles fan, you want to go to an Eagles concert and see 2 hours of the Eagles. If you're a Mac fan, you want to go to a concert and see 2 hours of the Mac...but when you combine the two, for me, I'm gonna feel cheated out of Mac time. However, I'm going to this show if it happens, haha, I'll just be angry. But I guess we should be really lucky that our favorite band is still performing, you know? They're great and could go on for years, but the reality is, they are getting older, and the mere fact that they're still rocking, whether it be solo or with the Eagles, is great.

I also think some really interesting things could come out of this show if it happens. Like--a lot of us haven't been able to see Stevie solo, especially performing with Don Henley, and I'm thinking a tour like this could open a lot of opportunity as far as the variety that we may see. I don't like that they are playing stupid arena's and stadiums, but it may just be okay. I'm liking that they may tour again instead of just chilling at home.

K--I said my 2 cents.

I've seen don solo, on the 2 voices tour with stevie and he was horrible, much better with the whole group. Stevie of course is fabulousity anywhere, with anyone.....I just don't see how the logistics of this is going to work out especially the prices...we're in a recession, people cannot and should not have to pay hundreds of $$ to see these bands or any band. They need to take a cue from U2 and others and keep the prices down but I fear we will be 'lining' their pockets again....

[jbrownsjr]

JB, you're missing the point, it's the must-see rock event for classic/soft-rock fans of all time.. or something. :laugh:


This becomes more like a bad joke every time I hear it. It's like all the Tiger Woods jokes going around, but I *like* FM. Well, I like Eagles, but I don't want to see the 2 paired, EVER, and I can't imagine sitting for 4 hours. The 2.5 hour Unleashed concert almost nummified my butt (and killed my vocal chords).

- Spike

LOL... or something is right Gypsy... Spikey if it was 1983 and they did this... sure I could understand... but now... the quality of their skills at those prices and same songs over and over... I just don't get it..

[UnwindedDreams]

U2 is charging more than Fleetwood Mac was. The top U2 ticket is $250 and that's not including Red Zone Auctions.

[Musicman408]

U2 is charging more than Fleetwood Mac was. The top U2 ticket is $250 and that's not including Red Zone Auctions.

Yeah, I was getting ready to say- I thought they WERE more expensive! :nod:

[Amlyn]

Yeah, I was getting ready to say- I thought they WERE more expensive! :nod:

I think they need to take a cue from Springsteen and have General Admission standing for the entire floor. I'm not sure I'm remembering this right, but I thought those tixs were cheaper then the seats in the first few levels (probably not the nosebleeds though).

[David]

I love both groups, but I am way more a fan of FM.
I have a few of concerns:
1. Tickets will be about $500 a piece for bad seatsKaching!

2. How will these two major hit-making bands get along?Just fine, I'd bet.

3. Will Stevie feel awkward with all these ex-lovers under one roof?She has performed with all these ex-lovers under one roof several times before. It was amusing to some of us in the audience, but it didn't seem to be any sort of problem onstage.

4. Will said awkwardness be too much for her, resulting in her quitting half way through? (although she's never been a quitter before)I don't think Stevie Nicks is someone to quit a tour halfway through unless she gets hit by a truck. Besides, these are bands that are both known for their isolationism on the road. If they choose, they can avoid one another entirely, very easily.

5. Will the die hard fan base of each band be able to blend, or will it be like a sporting event in every venue. (I'm picture bare chested men with Eagles/Penguins painted on their torsos..lol) I think the Eagles fans will be obnoxious, & the Fleetwood Mac fans will be polite & gracious.

[HenleyFan]

Eagles fans obnoxious? No, not at all. FM / Stevie fans......we did not have good experiences with them on the Two Voices tour.

Don was boring with Stevie? No, he wasn't. He doesn't jump around on stage, if that's what you were expecting. He stands there and sings.....and he does that very, very well.


Just sayin'............ :)

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

[HomerMcvie]

the Fleetwood Mac fans will be polite & gracious.
Is this your first day at the rodeo, David? :wavey:

[iamnotafraid]

She has performed with all these ex-lovers under one roof several times.

I think this quote deserves it's own thread.

[GypsyBlueEyes]

Eagles fans obnoxious? No, not at all. FM / Stevie fans......we did not have good experiences with them on the Two Voices tour.

Just sayin'............ :)

L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

I think David was just kidding :)

Anyway, I am anxious to see how this all works out. I'm not even sure if I believe this will really happen. Perhaps if it does happen, they will spend the time between now and then making plans for a new album. As for the tour, who knows, maybe the Eagles fans will have a new appreciation for FM after this. They really do put on a good show.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by David

She has performed with all these ex-lovers under one roof several times.
I think this quote deserves it's own thread.

ROFLOL!!!!!

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[UnwindedDreams]

Springsteen standing is $95 face value. It's more expensive in markets like NYC ($102.50) and sometimes cheaper in rural areas ($89).

His shows are incredible, if you catch him on a good night. Some nights he can get preachy, other nights he just rocks for three hours and fifteen minutes.

Did anyone hear that the tour with the Eagles starts in July?

[UnwindedDreams]

I have to say I disagree about the Mac being the manifest opener. I saw The Eagles a couple of times on the Long Road Out of Eden Tour and I definitely think the Unleashed Tour was a better show. Lindsey is drenched with sweat at every show as well as Mick.

Everyone castigates Stevie but remember as Lisa said, Don stands there and sings. Stevie dances and sings. Only Glenn and Joe really know how to rock in The Eagles and at most Eagles concerts, the crowd sits for the whole time.

The crowd would love to get back on their feet when the Mac comes on and let loose. I do believe that they should switch spots so there is no definitive opener and closer.

[UnwindedDreams]

Nancy,
I like your choices except I'd replace Witchy Woman and Life In the Fastlane with Hotel California and New York Minute.

I really thought Stvie spiced Hotel California one up in 2005. When I saw the Eagles do this in 2008, I felt disappointed. The performance wasn't as epic as it was when it was Don and Stevie.

The Eagles played NYM on the Hell Freezes Over Tour or at least at the filmed reunion show and this was another highlight of the 2005 Tour. The song is just a masterpiece and Stevie and Don in the shadows singing this vis 2005 would be a mind-blowing deja vu!

Your Mac songs are great as well. I'd add Gold Dust Woman because Don sounded great on that and he and Stevie were really getting into it. I think they should keep Oh Well and have Lindsey and Joe jam together.

[HomerMcvie]

I have to say I disagree about the Mac being the manifest opener. I saw The Eagles a couple of times on the Long Road Out of Eden Tour and I definitely think the Unleashed Tour was a better show. Lindsey is drenched with sweat at every show as well as Mick.

Everyone castigates Stevie but remember as Lisa said, Don stands there and sings. Stevie dances and sings. Only Glenn and Joe really know how to rock in The Eagles and at most Eagles concerts, the crowd sits for the whole time.

The crowd would love to get back on their feet when the Mac comes on and let loose. I do believe that they should switch spots so there is no definitive opener and closer.

Lindsey's sweating doesn't dictate who opens. The band's CLOUT does. And the Eagles have the most clout, hands down. Isn't Greatest Hits 71-75 still the #1 selling album, OF ALL TIME?

At least the Eagles do several songs from their most recent album(and btw, I much prefer LROOE to SYW). FM has relegated itself to a golden moldies machine.

"No one can suck the fun out of a room, faster than Don Henley" - Glenn Frey :lol:

[UnwindedDreams]

Lindsey's sweating doesn't dictate who opens. The band's CLOUT does. And the Eagles have the most clout, hands down. Isn't Greatest Hits 71-75 still the #1 selling album, OF ALL TIME?

At least the Eagles do several songs from their most recent album(and btw, I much prefer LROOE to SYW). FM has relegated itself to a golden moldies machine.

"No one can suck the fun out of a room, faster than Don Henley" - Glenn Frey :lol:
Neither do album sales. Fleetwood Mac seems like they far much enjoy performing than the Eagles do. And care more for their fans. Greatest Hits is the # selling album of all time...in the US.

Weren't the Eagles a golden oldies machine from Hell Freezes Over to 2006?

[HomerMcvie]

Neither do album sales. Fleetwood Mac seems like they far much enjoy performing than the Eagles do. And care more for their fans. Greatest Hits is the # selling album of all time...in the US.

Weren't the Eagles a golden oldies machine from Hell Freezes Over to 2006?

They at least had 4 new songs from HFO. I'm not saying they're BOTH not guilty of milking the moldies, but of late, they've NOT been guilty of it. FM, has.

If FM closes the shows, or the bands even alternate opening slots, I WILL send you $20.:wavey:

Don't let fandom get in the way of facts, or common sense.

[SteveMacD]

They at least had 4 new songs from HFO. I'm not saying they're BOTH not guilty of milking the moldies, but of late, they've NOT been guilty of it. FM, has.

If FM closes the shows, or the bands even alternate opening slots, I WILL send you $20.:wavey:

Don't let fandom get in the way of facts, or common sense.
Betcha they'd ham it up. Fleetwood Mac set, Eagles set, joint set. Now, if done right, the joint set (Fleetwood Mac would play their respective instruments with Don singing and Tim switching to guitar). This could get interesting, especially if Joe Walsh broke out "Rattlesnake Shake." But that **** don't happen with those guys anymore. No, we WOULD get Leather and Lace. Yipee!

There's potential, if they'd throw caution to the wind. I think Israel has a better shot of recognition in the Middle East.

There isn't really enough horse tranq to make the bland show we'd most likely get even half-way interesting.

[vivfox]

Are the Rumours true?
Posted on December 22, 2009 by sidetwo

The Eagles’ Their Greatest Hits (1971-1975) and Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours have sold in the neighbourhood of 48 million copies combined since their release in 1975 and 1977 respectively. That’s an astonishing number by anybody’s standards. Add 1976′ Hotel California to the mix, and the number climbs to 64 million. Toss in 1982’s Eagles Greatest Hits Volume II, and the number climbs to 79 million. And just for fun, let’s add 1988’s Fleetwood Mac’s Greatest Hits and The Eagles’ 1994 release Hell Freezes Over and you’re at 95 million for six albums. I could add more but you get the point.

Now that we’ve got the math out of the way, here’s the big (ahem) “rumour”: both bands may tour together next summer. Not sure if this would be just a “who opens for who” kind of thing or more of the Elton John/Billy Joel Face To Face tour which featured each artist sharing the stage and performing each other’s songs. Reps from both the Mac and Eagles camps have apparently been meeting with promoters to see if there’s interest. The tour would likely hit both stadiums and arenas in various markets. Too early to tell if if they’ll come north of the border but a tour of this scale would likely hit Toronto and Vancouver at a minimum but that’s just my guess.

If this tour does come to fruition, it’s likely only going to be affordable to those with a lot of disposable income. Based on the ticket pricing history for The Eagles at least I wouldn’t be surprised if the top-tier tix will be at the $300 level. While I have always considered myself a fan of The Eagles’ music, I don’t have much of a desire to see them live. Not much there in terms of onstage personality, if you know what I mean. Fleetwood Mac on the other hand put on an amazing show when I saw them earlier this year and frankly I think the musicianship of Lindsey Buckingham is worth the price of admission alone.

http://sidetwo.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/are-the-rumours-true/

[UnwindedDreams]

They at least had 4 new songs from HFO. I'm not saying they're BOTH not guilty of milking the moldies, but of late, they've NOT been guilty of it. FM, has.

If FM closes the shows, or the bands even alternate opening slots, I WILL send you $20.:wavey:

Don't let fandom get in the way of facts, or common sense.

I still think I hve common sense. :)

As I posted, I'm a big fan of the Eagles and post and chat on eaglesfans.com.

Fleetwood Mac had new songs from The Dance and put out a new album before the Eagles. Fleetwood Mac toured for their new album in 03-04. 2009 was their only hits tour. It is apparent that the Eagles have been guilty of cranking out the hits for awhile.

The Eagles have defnitely sold more albums. But I believe the crowd will be more impressed with Fleetwood Mac. I think this show will be a double-bill so there really is no opening act.

Do you think Don opened on the 2005 Tour with Stevie?

P.S. Can we shake hands on your offer? :)

[holidayroad]

Neither do album sales. Fleetwood Mac seems like they far much enjoy performing than the Eagles do. And care more for their fans.

I'm not so sure either band cares much about their fans.... neither seems to act like it.:confused:

[UnwindedDreams]

I've gotten that feeling from Mick and Stevie. Mick and Stevie were very gracious at their book signings and after shows when I waited outside. I can't speak for Lindsey but I'm sure others have experiences, right DavidMN? :D

And John McVie...I don't know. :laugh:

I heard Joe is very kind and considerable towards his fans.

[HomerMcvie]

P.S. Can we shake hands on your offer? :)

If the Eagles open for FM, I WILL send you $20. If they don't, does that mean you'll send me $20?

[HomerMcvie]

I'm not so sure either band cares much about their fans.... neither seems to act like it.:confused:

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!!

[HomerMcvie]

I heard Joe is very kind and considerable towards his fans.

I can't remember if it's from Don Felder's book, or Take It To The Limit(another Eagles book - I have both), but the author says that Joe is so down to earth, that he usually stayed after the show, and helped pack up guitars and stuff. That he liked just hanging out with the roadies. He liked just being with regular guys.

I get the feeling that John is probably much the same way.

[David]

The Eagles have defnitely sold more albums. Yep, although if we count only studio albums from the two groups, "Rumours" is the clear leader.

In fact, among studio albums, "Rumours" is second only to "Thriller," is it not?

How about as regards tours over the decades? Fleetwood Mac was the top-selling touring act for arenas in 1979-1980. But that was so long ago. I guess that the Eagles make more money on the road than Fleetwood Mac does in recent years.

[LukeA]

Yep, although if we count only studio albums from the two groups, "Rumours" is the clear leader.

In regards to US sales, "Rumours" has been certified at 19M, where "Hotel California" currently sits at 16M. Not exactly a huge difference. I also have the sneaking suspicion (a hunch for now, I don't have facts nearby to back it up) that "California" has outsold "Rumours" 1980-present, and that its definitely outsold "Rumours" compact disc/digitally.

In fact, among studio albums, "Rumours" is second only to "Thriller," is it not?

In terms of single disc recordings of original music...

Michael Jackson/Thriller - 29M
Led Zeppelin IV - 23M
AC/DC/Back In Black - 22M
Shania Twain/Come On Over - 20M
Fleetwood Mac/Rumours - 19M

[UnwindedDreams]

If the Eagles open for FM, I WILL send you $20. If they don't, does that mean you'll send me $20? Hm, let me think about it. :D

[UnwindedDreams]

I can't remember if it's from Don Felder's book, or Take It To The Limit(another Eagles book - I have both), but the author says that Joe is so down to earth, that he usually stayed after the show, and helped pack up guitars and stuff. That he liked just hanging out with the roadies. He liked just being with regular guys.

I get the feeling that John is probably much the same way.I doubt it would be Felder's book. He pretty much trashes the guys in the book. Yup, Joe is whom Sarah Palin references to in her trademark "Joe the Plumber". :D

Although, it did cost over $5,000 to meet him in a ILAA package. :laugh:

[David]

In regards to US sales, I'm not sure what the value is of singling out U.S. sales. Total sales is what I was interested in. What is the purpose of a U.S.-only sales figure?

[Spikey]

'Cause they're US bands and the tour will be in the US?

My new shock of the thread is that Shania Twain made an album that sold 20 million copies. That's almost as disturbing as FM/Eagles pairing.

Nah, the Eagles tour deal is still far, far more disturbing. Just the title of this thread, 'Dream Pairing' gets me pissed off everytime I visit here. It's so not! It'll be a cash grab with cynicism well before the music or fans. i still believe with Unleashed the fans were in the picture somewhere. Or at least the artists and the music before the money.


To finish by lauding David after I one-linered him, the ex-lovers quote is my new quote for 2009. Amazing. :blob2:

- Spike

[mylittledemon]

My new shock of the thread is that Shania Twain made an album that sold 20 million copies.


:laugh:

Indeed.

[Spikey]

:laugh:

Indeed.
That don't impress you much, huh, MLD?

[holidayroad]

I've gotten that feeling from Mick and Stevie. Mick and Stevie were very gracious at their book signings and after shows when I waited outside. I can't speak for Lindsey but I'm sure others have experiences, right DavidMN? :D

And John McVie...I don't know. :laugh:

I heard Joe is very kind and considerable towards his fans.

I'm not saying they aren't ever nice when face to face with a fan. I guess I just feel they could do more to show fans that they are appreciated.

[HenleyFan]

I totally agree that as a whole, in general, it doesn't seem like the Eagles really care that much about their fans......but from what I hear there have been arguments within the band about touring without new material (this was before Eden came out, obviously) and ticket prices. Seems some band members have actually spoken up and said prices are too high.

I've met all of the Eagles (Henley more than the others) except Frey and all of them have been very nice and gracious.

I've never met any FM members....just had Stevie stare are me like I was a freak when I didn't want to touch her hand during the Edge Walk during the Two Voices tour. :)


L&M
www.eaglesfans.com

I'm not saying they aren't ever nice when face to face with a fan. I guess I just feel they could do more to show fans that they are appreciated.

[michelej1]

:laugh: I've never met any FM members....just had Stevie stare are me like I was a freak when I didn't want to touch her hand during the Edge Walk during the Two Voices tour. :)




That happened to me too. I don't know if she was looking at me like I was a freak (though probably), but her eyes were questioning. It was like she was saying, "is something wrong?"

Michele

[DavidMn]

I totally agree that as a whole, in general, it doesn't seem like the Eagles really care that much about their fans......but from what I hear there have been arguments within the band about touring without new material (this was before Eden came out, obviously) and ticket prices. Seems some band members have actually spoken up and said prices are too high.

I've met all of the Eagles (Henley more than the others) except Frey and all of them have been very nice and gracious.

I've never met any FM members....just had Stevie stare are me like I was a freak when I didn't want to touch her hand during the Edge Walk during the Two Voices tour. :)


L&M
www.eaglesfans.comIs it true that Glen is a MAJOR germ freak and wont shake peoples hands, and that he also has an all white house in Palm Springs? Also, and you can certainly shed some light on this, I have a friend here in Minneapolis who is a huge Eagles fan, and he's told me that the Eagles are set up like a corporation where there are Voting shares and that Don H Don F and Glen had the 3 voing shares and Tim and Joe were basically "contract players" in the business sense of the band. is that true?

[HomerMcvie]

Is it true that Glen is a MAJOR germ freak and wont shake peoples hands, and that he also has an all white house in Palm Springs? Also, and you can certainly shed some light on this, I have a friend here in Minneapolis who is a huge Eagles fan, and he's told me that the Eagles are set up like a corporation where there are Voting shares and that Don H Don F and Glen had the 3 voing shares and Tim and Joe were basically "contract players" in the business sense of the band. is that true?

Until Don H and Glenn put their foot down(which resulted in the firing of Felder, since he wouldn't agree to the "new deal"), touring revenues were split EVENLY among all 5 members. Don and Glenn realized that they could force the others to agree to make less(they now make 40/40/10/10%, since Felder's out of the picture). Before, it was 5 even 20%'s.
And yes, it's true that after Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left, that the Eagles "corporation", only consisted of Henley, Frey, and Felder. So even though touring revenues were split evenly, merch and the like, weren't options for Joe and Tim.
Sooo, on one hand, you can't blame Felder, for wanting to go from 20%, to 10. BUT, he never realized that they were gonna can him, if he didn't agree to the deal. He tried to beg his way back in, but what was done, was done(there had been bad blood between Felder and Frey, for years).