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SteveMacD
07-28-2006, 08:39 PM
So, we know he's Christine's manager. But, what I want to know is if he's the same guy who was partially responsible for Mick Fleetwood's "The Visitor."

macfan 57
07-29-2006, 05:56 AM
So, we know he's Christine's manager. But, what I want to know is if he's the same guy who was partially responsible for Mick Fleetwood's "The Visitor."

What do you mean?:confused: I don't have the Visitor album(I only have a CDR), so I've never seen the liner notes. I think Martin Wyatt has mainly been associated with Christine. He was a producer of that 1984 laser disc documentary. He was also mentioned in the thank you credits for the Chain box set, Time, Rumours DVD-Audio & of course, In The Meantime. He's a former music publisher.

By the way, I find it curious that Chris still has a manager when she is supposedly "retired".

SteveMacD
07-29-2006, 02:50 PM
Liner Notes...

MUSICIANS IN GHANA
Mick Fleetwood: Drums, Percussion
George Hawkins: Vocals, Bass & Keyboards
Todd Sharp: Guitars
Lord Tiki: Congas
Ebaali Gbiko: Children's Drum Ensemble
The Ghana Folkloric Group
Superbrains
Adjo Group

Guest Musicians
Peter Greenbaum: Vocal, Guitar
George Harrison: Guitars, Vocal (with Sara)
Ian Barinson: Guitars
Mike Moran: Prophet 5 Synthesizer
Andrew Powell: String Arrangements

George Harrison courtesy of Dark Horse Records, U.K.
Peter Greenbaum courtesy of PVK Records, U.K.

Technical Crew
Tony Todaro: Roand And Equipment Manager
Randy Ezratty: Recording Equipment and Co-ordination
Jim Barnes: Production Co-ordinator In Ghana
Billy Youdelman: Engineer In Ghana
Richard Dashut: Engineer

Special thanks to
Martin Wyatt (A true Superman)
Terry Doran

All tracks recorded in Accra, Ghana by Effanél Music prtable recording system

Photography: Richard Dashut, Richard Aaron, Mick Fleetwood (Sx70)

Album concept: Richard Dashut and Mick Fleetwood

Album desighn: James Campus and Anthony Cohen

New artwork: Grey Matter

Produced by Richard Dashut & Mick Fleetwood
Executive Producer Mickey Shapiro

macfan 57
07-29-2006, 03:26 PM
It's got to be the same Martin Wyatt. How many Martin Wyatt's can there be?:laugh: I wonder what he did to be called a "Superman".

Thanks for posting the liner notes, by the way! I'll print them & add them to my CDR.:)

jbrownsjr
07-29-2006, 03:52 PM
Liner Notes...

MUSICIANS IN GHANA
Mick Fleetwood: Drums, Percussion
George Hawkins: Vocals, Bass & Keyboards
Todd Sharp: Guitars
Lord Tiki: Congas
Ebaali Gbiko: Children's Drum Ensemble
The Ghana Folkloric Group
Superbrains
Adjo Group

Guest Musicians
Peter Greenbaum: Vocal, Guitar
George Harrison: Guitars, Vocal (with Sara)
Ian Barinson: Guitars
Mike Moran: Prophet 5 Synthesizer
Andrew Powell: String Arrangements

George Harrison courtesy of Dark Horse Records, U.K.
Peter Greenbaum courtesy of PVK Records, U.K.

Technical Crew
Tony Todaro: Roand And Equipment Manager
Randy Ezratty: Recording Equipment and Co-ordination
Jim Barnes: Production Co-ordinator In Ghana
Billy Youdelman: Engineer In Ghana
Richard Dashut: Engineer

Special thanks to
Martin Wyatt (A true Superman)
Terry Doran

All tracks recorded in Accra, Ghana by Effanél Music prtable recording system

Photography: Richard Dashut, Richard Aaron, Mick Fleetwood (Sx70)

Album concept: Richard Dashut and Mick Fleetwood

Album desighn: James Campus and Anthony Cohen

New artwork: Grey Matter

Produced by Richard Dashut & Mick Fleetwood
Executive Producer Mickey Shapiro

awesome! thanks steve

wetcamelfood
07-29-2006, 06:19 PM
Yes! Thanks Steve, this will help for me to get the Visitor's discog page built up (when I can get to it, still working on the A's so have a ways to go). :)

John

Gailh
07-30-2006, 09:32 AM
I think Martin Wyatt has mainly been associated with Christine. He was a producer of that 1984 laser disc documentary. He was also mentioned in the thank you credits for the Chain box set, Time, Rumours DVD-Audio & of course, In The Meantime. He's a former music publisher.

By the way, I find it curious that Chris still has a manager when she is supposedly "retired".

I think that Martin Wyatt has been a friend of Christine's for a long time. Didn't she say that it was him who suggested she make an album? I doubt that before she started recording ITM she needed a full time manager but perhaps someone to advise on financial matters? She must have a hell of a lot of money to keep track of and invest. A good while back now Q Magazine estimated that she was worth £25,000,000 so I imagine that takes some looking after. although I'm sure she has specialist financial advice it's always nice to have the opinion of someone you trust.

Now that she's back to being retired again I'm sure Martin has gone back to his role of trusted adviser. I think he's probably semi retired himself - he's about her age.

Gail

macfan 57
07-30-2006, 10:31 AM
I think that Martin Wyatt has been a friend of Christine's for a long time. Didn't she say that it was him who suggested she make an album? I doubt that before she started recording ITM she needed a full time manager but perhaps someone to advise on financial matters? She must have a hell of a lot of money to keep track of and invest. A good while back now Q Magazine estimated that she was worth £25,000,000 so I imagine that takes some looking after. although I'm sure she has specialist financial advice it's always nice to have the opinion of someone you trust.

Now that she's back to being retired again I'm sure Martin has gone back to his role of trusted adviser. I think he's probably semi retired himself - he's about her age.

Gail

You're probably right. I remember that Q Magazine article. That was in 1998, just after she retired from Fleetwood Mac. That's probably close to $50,000,000 now in U.S. dollars. It could be considerably more now if she & Mr. Wyatt did a good job of investing it. Her property & apartment alone should have appreciated a good deal since then, assuming real estate did as well in the U.K. as here in the U.S. these last few years. Also, his job may be to make sure that she gets all royalty income that she is due. I have an interview with her from around 1987 in which she mentions that she had to have someone to look after these kinds of things or she'd get ripped off. She's obviously known him for ages & trusts him.

HomerMcvie
07-30-2006, 12:17 PM
Also, his job may be to make sure that she gets all royalty income that she is due.
That's the first thing I thought, when somebody questioned why she'd still need a manager. As long as there are still royalties for her(and there always will be), somebody needs to monitor them.

Gailh
07-30-2006, 12:26 PM
That's the first thing I thought, when somebody questioned why she'd still need a manager. As long as there are still royalties for her(and there always will be), somebody needs to monitor them.

I think she likes have people around her she trusts. I'm sure being her manager is not a full time job but I suspect he's more of a friend.

Gail

aleuzzi
07-30-2006, 06:42 PM
I find it curious that Chris still has a manager when she is supposedly "retired".

I cling to the possiblity that she keeps him around for future projects! God, here's hoping.

BTW: As of 1998 she was worth about 50,000,000 American dollars? Holy crap. I knew she was well off, but I had no idea. No wonder her home near Kent is --in her own words--as big as the town...Compared to some stars, I suppose 50 mill is small beans, but not for a musician who has been largely inactive for the past fifteen years.

Gailh
07-31-2006, 02:48 AM
I cling to the possiblity that she keeps him around for future projects! God, here's hoping.

BTW: As of 1998 she was worth about 50,000,000 American dollars? Holy crap. I knew she was well off, but I had no idea. No wonder her home near Kent is --in her own words--as big as the town...Compared to some stars, I suppose 50 mill is small beans, but not for a musician who has been largely inactive for the past fifteen years.

she bought her house in Kent in 1990 when I imagine she was still earning a hell of lot of money. I would have thought the London flat was financed out of the sale of her L.A. home.

The figure of USD50,000,000 would include property but she's probably very shrewd with her investments which is probably where Mr Wyatt comes in.

Gail

macfan 57
07-31-2006, 05:45 AM
she bought her house in Kent in 1990 when I imagine she was still earning a hell of lot of money. I would have thought the London flat was financed out of the sale of her L.A. home.

The figure of USD50,000,000 would include property but she's probably very shrewd with her investments which is probably where Mr Wyatt comes in.

Gail

I wonder how Eddy Quintela figured into this. I doubt his name was on her L.A. home, maybe her current home in Kent, but maybe not. I'll bet she had a good, airtight pre-nuptual agreement to protect herself.

Gailh
07-31-2006, 07:14 AM
I wonder how Eddy Quintela figured into this. I doubt his name was on her L.A. home, maybe her current home in Kent, but maybe not. I'll bet she had a good, airtight pre-nuptual agreement to protect herself.

Yes I wonder about that. I'd hazard a guess that there was some kind of settlement made to him but perhaps part of the deal was that he kept quiet?

To their credit neither of them (to my knowledge) has spoken about the split but perhaps as I said he'd lose money if he did.

I bet the flat in London is worth a fortune. I'm only guessing but I'm thinking upwards of £2,000,000 for a place like that with that location and I imagine better security than Fort Knox.

Gail

macfan 57
07-31-2006, 10:47 AM
I bet the flat in London is worth a fortune. I'm only guessing but I'm thinking upwards of £2,000,000 for a place like that with that location and I imagine better security than Fort Knox.

Gail

Wow! And, she probably spends very little time there. I know you've never seen her property in Kent, but what do you think something like that might be worth?

Gailh
07-31-2006, 12:34 PM
Wow! And, she probably spends very little time there. I know you've never seen her property in Kent, but what do you think something like that might be worth?

That is very difficult to say. From how she describes it I think it is a main house with some outbuildings, cottages and the recording studio. (I wonder if she needs a lodger?)

As the house itself is very old I imagine it's what we call a "listed building". this means you can't make an alterations without getting planning permission and everything has to be in keeping with the orignal house. This would mean the upkeep would be quite expensive.

I would have thought it's worth a lot more now that when she bought as she's said she has had a lot of work done to it. I imagine there's a lot of land with it but to put a price on that is very difficult.

I think something in the region of £3,000,000 but I could be wildly wrong because I don't have anything to compare it with.

Gail

Gailh
08-01-2006, 07:44 AM
does anyone know what Martin Wyatt looks like?

Gail

macfan 57
08-01-2006, 10:05 AM
does anyone know what Martin Wyatt looks like?

Gail

I've never seen a picture of him. Someone here on the Ledge from the U.K. , I believe met him in London & they said he seemed like a nice guy. By the way Gail, how do you know he's the same age as Chris?

Gailh
08-01-2006, 12:46 PM
I've never seen a picture of him. Someone here on the Ledge from the U.K. , I believe met him in London & they said he seemed like a nice guy. By the way Gail, how do you know he's the same age as Chris?

I checked out Quaives Music Ltd and he was shown as the director and it showed his date of birth.

Gail

macfan 57
08-01-2006, 02:29 PM
I checked out Quaives Music Ltd and he was shown as the director and it showed his date of birth.

Gail

Can you give me a link to Quaives Music Ltd?

Gailh
08-01-2006, 02:49 PM
Can you give me a link to Quaives Music Ltd?

There is no website for Quaives Music Ltd

Quaives Music is a private limited company (which means that although the company has shares they are not freely available to trade on the open market) As such they have to abide by various rules and regulations and one of those is that their details are available at Companies House ( a government department)

There are various companies which provide information on limited companies - some basic information is free and the rest you have to pay for.

Basically the company was formed in 2002 and is still listed as "dormant" which effectively means it isn't trading. As there would have been no income until after ITM was released in June 2004 I doubt if they would have to file their accounts until the next tax year which started on 6 April 2005 and finished on 5 April 2006. I think they have quite a period of time to file the accounts after the end of the tax year so I would expect there to be some details available some time this year.

This is a link to a company where you can get info but anything more than the basics you will have to pay for.

www.creditgate.com

You can search for companies and directors

Gail

PS Here endeth the lesson on UK accounting and company law!

macfan 57
08-01-2006, 03:27 PM
There is no website for Quaives Music Ltd

Quaives Music is a private limited company (which means that although the company has shares they are not freely available to trade on the open market) As such they have to abide by various rules and regulations and one of those is that their details are available at Companies House ( a government department)

There are various companies which provide information on limited companies - some basic information is free and the rest you have to pay for.

Basically the company was formed in 2002 and is still listed as "dormant" which effectively means it isn't trading. As there would have been no income until after ITM was released in June 2004 I doubt if they would have to file their accounts until the next tax year which started on 6 April 2005 and finished on 5 April 2006. I think they have quite a period of time to file the accounts after the end of the tax year so I would expect there to be some details available some time this year.

This is a link to a company where you can get info but anything more than the basics you will have to pay for.

www.creditgate.com

You can search for companies and directors

Gail

PS Here endeth the lesson on UK accounting and company law!

Thanks! I did find Martin Wyatt in the director's search. His name is Martin Baxter Wyatt. The address is the same as the one that was posted on Chris' message board. I couldn't find his birth date. Did you pay to look up that info? Just curious.;) I guess we'll have to keep an eye on this for any new reports that are filed later this year.:D

What do you think is Ian Murray & Co? Is that an accountant?

Gailh
08-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Thanks! I did find Martin Wyatt in the director's search. His name is Martin Baxter Wyatt. The address is the same as the one that was posted on Chris' message board. I couldn't find his birth date. Did you pay to look up that info? Just curious.;) I guess we'll have to keep an eye on this for any new reports that are filed later this year.:D

What do you think is Ian Murray & Co? Is that an accountant?

I think Ian Murray & Co are probably a firm of accountants. It's not unusual for companies to register their address as c/o their accountants. It actually only means that they don't have an office with staff etc.

I did pay to find out a little more about the company but really until they file some accounts there's not much more to see.

Gail