Whats easier to play

[Houseonthehill]

I was just curious, a friend of mine just purchased a Chet Atkins (nylon) Classical, and this has kind of driven me to learn to play some of Lindseys Dance Classical-style songs (Go Insane, and Big Love).

I was just more curious, I am very very amateaur, and was wondering which song is easier to play. It seems Go Insane, but confirmation would be really nice.



On a seperate topic, what are some good starter Fleetwood Mac songs to learn how to play? Tusk sounds pretty easy, but I found the chord progressions kinda tricky, maybe a bad tab...

[Mari]

I find Go Insane easier to play, but I don't play an exact copy, actually. Song leaves a bit more room to add some of your own than Big Love, in my experience. Been playing BL for years and still mess it up:laugh:

Good luck and lots of fun with learning them:)

[Madness Fades]

I think I would have to say Go Insane is much easier. I cant play all of it yet but as Mari says it leaves more room for improvising a wee bits in.

paul

[Sahara]

Anyone who can play either of them is worthy of worship in my eyes.

I can't imagine how you do it! :thumbsup:

[TomBanks147]

Go insane is deffinatly the easier option. Big love is a tricky one as when your learing it and playing it "slow" it sounds nothing like it does when played at the correct speed. If you learn it bit by bit then but it all together and then build up the speed its not so bad. Still I'd never be able to play AND sing it at the same time.

I'd imagine Red Rover would be the hardest Lindsey song to play and i'm at the point where I'd love a tab of something like shut us down, say gooddbye or red rover.

Goodluck with learing both songs, they're both loads of fun to play

[tdfwiner]

this is a good place for tabs...

http://members.tripod.com/~jjShank/

Landslide is pretty easy if you haven't tried that yet

[DavidMn]

Not that I'm any kind of expert, but a guitar playing friend of mine told me Never Going Back Again is one of the most difficult songs he's learned to play.

[Peestie]

Go insane is deffinatly the easier option. Big love is a tricky one as when your learing it and playing it "slow" it sounds nothing like it does when played at the correct speed. If you learn it bit by bit then but it all together and then build up the speed its not so bad. Still I'd never be able to play AND sing it at the same time.

I'd imagine Red Rover would be the hardest Lindsey song to play and i'm at the point where I'd love a tab of something like shut us down, say gooddbye or red rover.

Goodluck with learing both songs, they're both loads of fun to play

Go Insane is much easier I agree. Everything Tom said I'd agree with. I learnt Go Insane in a day or 2 to sing and play at the same time and after 3 months I still can't play Big Love yet. I can play bits of it but when I try putting it all together it goes wrong. It's going to be a year or 2 before I even think about trying to sing it at the same time lol.

I was going to tab Red Rover soon so I was. The Soundstage one anyway since it seemed easier to hear, but I think they're more or less exactly the same anyway. And Say Goodbye is another song I'd love to get tabs for, but I think I'll probably end up tabbing it myself on PowerTab or Guitar Pro 5 (I can't use text tabs anymore, I find the quality to be far too low generally I always tab my own stuff or get it from www.mysongbook.com or www.powertab.com)

Not that I'm any kind of expert, but a guitar playing friend of mine told me Never Going Back Again is one of the most difficult songs he's learned to play.

I thought it was hard at first since it was the first finger/Travis picking song I ever played, but a couple of months down the line I can sing it and play it at the same time. It's become my party piece. I'm getting requests to bring my guitar just to play it now, even though I still think I'm pretty sloppy :rolleyes:
If you've never played that sort of style it would be really hard at first, but you get used to it quickly enough.

[Houseonthehill]

Thanks for showing me, my song book, hopefully I can try to bust some of these out on the turner, Practice makes perfect!

[Madness Fades]

Thanks for showing me, my song book, hopefully I can try to bust some of these out on the turner, Practice makes perfect!

You have a Turner, Have we seen the Pics yet.???

paul

[Houseonthehill]

You have a Turner, Have we seen the Pics yet.???

paul

Sure do! The Pics should be in the thread.

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=27060

Nice to meet another M1 Player.

[Für Elise]

Are you learning to play guitar on a Turner? That's interesting, I've never played one so I wouldn't know but it would seem that it lends itself to such a specific style and obviously has such a specific sound that it would make learning the basics more difficult. Do you also have other guitars? To answer your other question there, I'd say Tusk is an easy place to start. I wouldn't be trying to play Big Love the way Lindsey does before figuring out something like Tusk.

[David]

I can play all these songs blindfolded.

[TomBanks147]

I can play all these songs blindfolded.

great :thumbsup:

[chiliD]

...but it would seem that it lends itself to such a specific style and obviously has such a specific sound...

But, in reality, it is the most versatile guitar I've ever played/owned. It really DOESN'T "lend itself to such a specific style" or sound...that would only be in the mind of the player.

Sure, Lindsey's style and his use of a Turner M1 is so melded together in people's minds that it is difficult for most people to separate them. But, just as you don't have to play like Les Paul to PLAY a Gibson Les Paul, or play like Eric Clapton to PLAY an Eric Clapton Signature Fender Stratocaster, you don't have to PLAY like Lindsey to play a Turner M1. (Lord knows *I* don't) :shrug:

To me, it would seem that the more one plays an M1, the more their OWN sound would come through.


I can play all these songs blindfolded.

Yeah, but not on guitar, you doof. Remember, you play keyboards.

[Für Elise]

But, in reality, it is the most versatile guitar I've ever played/owned. It really DOESN'T "lend itself to such a specific style" or sound...that would only be in the mind of the player.

Sure, Lindsey's style and his use of a Turner M1 is so melded together in people's minds that it is difficult for most people to separate them. But, just as you don't have to play like Les Paul to PLAY a Gibson Les Paul, or play like Eric Clapton to PLAY an Eric Clapton Signature Fender Stratocaster, you don't have to PLAY like Lindsey to play a Turner M1. (Lord knows *I* don't) :shrug:

To me, it would seem that the more one plays an M1, the more their OWN sound would come through.I see, as I said, I've never played one so I have no idea. It just looks a little more difficult to learn the basics such as simple chord progressions if you were a beginner than if you were using a nylon string or a strat. I just use a strat, it makes playing a breeze even compared to the steal string acoustic I used to have, just physically easier. A hell of a lot cheaper too! I'm envious of anyone who can afford to learn on such expensive equipment. I learnt on a $50 nylon string but I think I'm in the norm there.

[Houseonthehill]

Are you learning to play guitar on a Turner? That's interesting, I've never played one so I wouldn't know but it would seem that it lends itself to such a specific style and obviously has such a specific sound that it would make learning the basics more difficult. Do you also have other guitars? To answer your other question there, I'd say Tusk is an easy place to start. I wouldn't be trying to play Big Love the way Lindsey does before figuring out something like Tusk.

Its kind of funny about me purchasing this guitar, almost hipocritical in way. I suppose allot of people would say it is a waste for someone to learn on a 3k+ guitar, and I would have too/ in a way still do.

However, its just one of those non-sensical completely impractical things that one does to keep life interesting.

I used to have an Epiphone Les Paul Special II, which wasn't a horrible guitar, but was something I paid around $200 for. I was never satisfied with it though, had bad playability and a tinny sound. On almost an impulse situation (combined with the fact that I was having a bad week emotionally with the addition of University Final exams thrown into the mix), I was oogling E-bay at the Rick Turners they had. At which point I came across this M1, It was a reletively ridiculous price of around $1800, and to my house for $2225 CDN. I took advantage of the great deal (plus the strong canadian dollar) and purchased it. I justified it almost as an investment, I figured that if I play my dream guitar more by self motivation it was worth the expense. I am not well off by any means, but this is something that I wanted to do. Also, I figured that say, I realized that the purchase was somewhat extravagant, I could always sell the guitar and make my money back plus some. I don't regret my decious what so ever.


As for learning on it, I have played numourous guitars, and have found it to be quite fine. I want to play it, and thats the difference, something about it gives me a mental aura which is hard to explain (probably for no real reason other than the fact that I worship LB and having his signature guitar is special to me). I also somewhat in a love/hate way, like the way that it is unique. Love in the way that I am doing something different, hate in the way that, when I tell an established guitar store what I play they don't know what it is, at which point I go into a long extended explanation of Fleetwood Mac, LB which invertably ends up going into something dealing with SN being a witch. One of my friends noted that if I wanted to sell it, I could buy a nice American Strat, Gibson Les Paul Studio, and a very nice Amp, but would I do it? Not a chance.

Its hard to learn with in the way that you are always finding new tonal qualities with it, and sticking to something and finding something you are utterly satisfied with is quite tough!

Playability wise? Its about the same as learning on a Les Paul I would say, I have a slightly lower action, and it sounds nice. Fits well in the hands, and on my knee, very ergonomically designed for long periods of use.

To answer your question though, I don't really have any other guitars worth mentioning, an Art And Luthier (A well regarded Canadian brand) Acoustic Guitar which I paid $140CDN for on boxing day, and sounds more like a guitar 4X that. I play out of a Peavy Classic 30 Tube Amp. My friend is a classical virtiso (sp) in a sense, and purchased a Gibson Chet Atkins, we joke that if we pick up a RN6 and a Martin (I believe) acoustic (which he played on Landslide/NGBA on Rumours tour), we can complete LB's collection haha.

Tusk is allot of fun to play, thanks for the suggestion!

Sorry about the long response.

[hmcannally]

I am actually jealous of ANY one who plays ANYTHING on a guitar after an on the job accident messed up my left hand, I can't play like I used to as a nerve in the middle finger hurts each time I try to chord or pick single notes. So my congratulations to you guys who can play. Even more to you who can play Lindsey style. I know how hard it is and I respect that. As to which is easier I would have to say that Go Insane is easier. Big Love done Lindsey;s unique style would be hard as hell in my opinion.

[Peestie]

I am actually jealous of ANY one who plays ANYTHING on a guitar after an on the job accident messed up my left hand, I can't play like I used to as a nerve in the middle finger hurts each time I try to chord or pick single notes. So my congratulations to you guys who can play. Even more to you who can play Lindsey style. I know how hard it is and I respect that. As to which is easier I would have to say that Go Insane is easier. Big Love done Lindsey;s unique style would be hard as hell in my opinion.

:( Aww man, that's rough. Have you tried getting any help with it? Lots of great guitarists have injuries on their fretting hand and have been able to carry on, so you never know, there could be some hope.:shrug: Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath) lost the tips of 2 of his fingers and managed to keep going and Django Reinhardt could only use 2 of his fretting fingers after a fire and is a highly regarded guitarist.

[hmcannally]

Thanks for the encouragement. The one thing I can do I can't afford - have a doctor surgically remove that part of the nerve that is causing the trouble. That was my choice after the accident and I made the wrong one. I have a friend who plays bass for a blues band who has half of his index and middle fingers. He had the nerves snippeI didn't, Anyway enough about me. I love both Go Insane and Big Love the way Lindsey does them live. It is kinda flemenco style mixed with Lindsey's own personal style mixed. Anyone who can even come close to playing Lindsey style has my respect.