The Oscars!

[danax6]

Thanks to a nifty new cable decoder I stole from my dad for the evening, I can now watch the Oscar pre-show (and later on the Red Carpet show) on E!. It doesn't have ABC, but a german channel is airing the actual Academy Awards, so I guess that means I will be staying up till 5 am to catch it all.

So, who else is watching? :wavey:

[DavidMn]

Thanks to a nifty new cable decoder I stole from my dad for the evening, I can now watch the Oscar pre-show (and later on the Red Carpet show) on E!. It doesn't have ABC, but a german channel is airing the actual Academy Awards, so I guess that means I will be staying up till 5 am to catch it all.

So, who else is watching? :wavey:I'll be watching as well.:)

[GypsySorcerer]

Yep, I'll be watching. One of my favorite nights of the year. :thumbsup:

[Livia]

I'll be watching Joan and Melissa while I record E, or the other way around, not sure yet.

I just watched Crash last night - good movie. And I watched Walk the Line earlier this week. Those are the only Oscar-nominated films I've seen so far, since I loathe going to movie theaters. :cool:

[Lala]

I'll be watching. I've seen Crash, Brokeback Mountain, and Walk the Line. All good.

[JazmenFlowers]

I'm about to pile on the couch and drink it all in tonight.

[Livia]

I'm about to pile on the couch and drink it all in tonight.

Did someone say "drink?" How about we play a game? Take a sip of your favorite beverage whenever Melissa Rivers says "amaaaaaazing."

:)

[DavidMn]

I'm about to pile on the couch and drink it all in tonight.Are you ready for all of "US" to go to eternal damnation once Brokeback wins?:lol: That's what I heard when I was flipping thru the radio dial yesterday.:lol: Isnt it nice that the religious wackos give us something to laugh at?

[JazmenFlowers]

Did someone say "drink?" How about we play a game? Take a sip of your favorite beverage whenever Melissa Rivers says "amaaaaaazing."

:)
I'll be drunk within 15 minutes. I've got 2 things working against me: she says that constantly and I'm a lightweight.

[JazmenFlowers]

Are you ready for all of "US" to go to eternal damnation once Brokeback wins?:lol: That's what I heard when I was flipping thru the radio dial yesterday.:lol: Isnt it nice that the religious wackos give us something to laugh at?
lol.

I doubt it wins though - I really see Walk the Line taking everything they're nominated for...

[Livia]

Okay, how about a non-alcoholic beverage for "amaaaazing" and alcoholic whenever someone flubs reading the teleprompter or mispronounces a name?

[DavidMn]

lol.

I doubt it wins though - I really see Walk the Line taking everything they're nominated for...I've heard Crash has really been gaining momentum as a darkhorse for BP.

[GypsySorcerer]

I think BBM will take Picture and Director, easily. I am hoping for an Amy Adams win in Supporting Actress. :blob1:

[danax6]

Which channel has Joan and Melissa? So I can see if I have it right now...

I can't stand Joan Rivers though.

[Livia]

The TV Guide Channel has Joan and Melissa, but I doubt you'll be able to pick it up...I get a weak signal here as it is...

[Miss Vicky]

I've only seen two of the nominated films (Walk the Line and Brokeback Mountain) and the only category I care about is Best Actor. However, I know that my favorite isn't going to win so unless I'm desperately bored and there is absolutely NOTHING else on television tonight, I'm skipping the Oscars.

[rbs3676]

Here are my annual Oscar predictions...

Best Supporting Actress: Rachel Weisz for The Constant Gardener. I would really prefer Michelle Williams to win for Brokeback Mountain, but I think the Academy will honor Rachel.

Best Supporting Actor: This could go to either George Clooney for Syriana (he has 3 nominations this year and will probably win this one) or Matt Dillon for Crash. I would love to see Matt Dillon - one of my favorite actors - win and the Academy very well could honor him because this was a terrific role, but George Clooney is so beloved in Hollywood. This will be an interesting category.

Best Actress: Reese Witherspoon for Walk The Line. There is a huge buzz behind Felicity Huffman in Transamerica (and wouldn't that be something if she won?), but I don't think enough people have seen that movie. My bet is that it's Reese's night.

Best Actor: Phillip Seymour Hoffman for Capote. My favorite working actor today, he was brilliant in this role and the Academy truly respects this amazingly talented actor.

Best Director: Ang Lee for Brokeback Mountain. A gorgeous, sweeping, beautiful movie.

Best Film: Crash. While Brokeback Mountain could very well win (and deservingly so), I think that the Academy will vote for Crash for it's social commentary and it's bold look at racism in America.

rbs

[danax6]

The TV Guide Channel has Joan and Melissa, but I doubt you'll be able to pick it up...I get a weak signal here as it is...Yeah, no, we don't have that here, unfortunately. I'm stuck with E! and the german channel. :p

[David]

Please don't think ill of me, but my interest in the Oscars & all attendant hoopla is precisely nil.

I do like movies, though!

[estranged4life]

Please don't think ill of me, but my interest in the Oscars & all attendant hoopla is precisely nil.

I do like movies, though!

except I prefer to see a terrorist attack (After "Brokeback Mountain" wins) take this crap off the air on a permanent basis!!!

Only thing better would be a winner slamming the trophy to the ground in a million pieces and tell the Academy those ever popular 2 words that equate to "F.U."

[David]

except I prefer to see a terrorist attack (After "Brokeback Mountain" wins) take this crap off the air on a permanent basis!!!

Only thing better would be a winner slamming the trophy to the ground in a million pieces and tell the Academy those ever popular 2 words that equate to "F.U."Either of those occurrences would be EXTREMELY cool to see, & I would welcome either one of them!!!:thumbsup:

It's just that I don't know any of these actors or these stars any more. I haven't known who the stars are since Tommy Lee Jones tried to kill Faye Dunaway (that's about 1978).

[danax6]

Please don't think ill of me, but my interest in the Oscars & all attendant hoopla is precisely nil.

I do like movies, though!Man, where is dissention when you need him? :blob1:

[danax6]

Okay, I saw George Clooney. I can die happy now.

[danax6]

Did I miss something? Are Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock together? Or was it just a coincidence that they were shown together brushing each other's clothes of? ;)

[madformac]

Only thing better would be a winner slamming the trophy to the ground in a million pieces and tell the Academy those ever popular 2 words that equate to "F.U."

I think George Lucas would certainly do that. But the Academy would never give him the chance...

[diamondsnake]

The only Oscar movies I've seen are Brokeback Mountain and Transamerica. The two "controversial" movies!

[David]

The only Oscar movies I've seen are Brokeback Mountain and Transamerica.Doesn't the name "Brokeback" remind you of the name "Crookback," the epithet given to Richard Gloucester -- King Richard III?

It does me.

[diamondsnake]

I never thought of that, I must say.

But I do have to say that this host sucks!!!! He is so not funny! Why do they pick the most uncomfortable people to host these awards? Couldn't they pick someone pleasant?

[diamondsnake]

Damn!!! I wanted Jake to win! I hope Michelle Williams gets best supporting actress.

[gldstwmn]

Clooney wins for Syriana! :blob2: :blob1: :blob2: :blob1:

[Miss Vicky]

Apparently I have actually seen three of the movies nominated... Munich being a the third.

Why oh why did that reeking piece of crap get in the best picture category?

I'm bored, really bored so I tuned in.

Joaquin looks tired and bloated (wonder if he's on meds from his car crash or if he's just stoned) and seemed none to happy about the "WTL as Ray with white people" joke.

[GypsySorcerer]

Clooney wins for Syriana! :blob2: :blob1: :blob2: :blob1:

Great speech. "Well, I'm not winning for director." :laugh:

[danax6]

Dolly Parton! I just love her.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Dolly....blows me away!

I love that woman!!!:D

[GypsySorcerer]

Dolly....blows me away!

I love that woman!!!:D

She's fabulous. Go Dolly! :blob1:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Great speech. "Well, I'm not winning for director." :laugh:

Except for the whole "I'm proud to be out of touch thing"...we all know that will def. be used against him at some point. :laugh:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Oh yea...and Nicole looks FANTASTIC! I sweart to God I could just stare at her all day.

[gldstwmn]

Jake Gyllenhal looked shocked that he didn't win.

[wondergirl9847]

She's greatness. That is all.

[diamondsnake]

I think Jake should have won, but I didn't think he looked shocked to me. He clapped, didn't he?

[GypsySorcerer]

Except for the whole "I'm proud to be out of touch thing"...we all know that will def. be used against him at some point. :laugh:
He made an excellent point. :)

Oh yea...and Nicole looks FANTASTIC! I sweart to God I could just stare at her all day.
Stunning. :nod:

[GypsySorcerer]

Jake Gyllenhal looked shocked that he didn't win.
They all seemed kind of shocked, except Hurt.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Did anyone else think that John didn't do so hot in the Oscar opening...

Maybe the worst Oscar opening I have ever seen...:o :shrug:

[diamondsnake]

Did anyone else think that John didn't do so hot in the Oscar opening...

Maybe the worst Oscar opening I have ever seen...:o :shrug:
Read my post on page two! I thought he sucked! Why do they pick such horrible people? It is as if they select the most uncomfortable comedians to come in and mock everyone in Hollywood.

[macfanken]

Did Dolly perform already? I just got home... I didn't think it started until 6 pacific time for some reason. What did I miss?

[greatdarkwing]

You know, if Jennifer Aniston is feeling lonely she can come into my bedroom ANYTIME! :laugh:

[diamondsnake]

You know, if Jennifer Aniston is feeling lonely she can come into my bedroom ANYTIME! :laugh:
She did look sad, didn't she?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Did Dolly perform already? I just got home... I didn't think it started until 6 pacific time for some reason. What did I miss?

I knew you wouldn't be back in time!!!

You totally missed Dolly do a kick ass performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, what's to do at the gym...do some crunches and get the hell home! ITS THE OSCARS! Couldn't you tell by the fact that there were no fags there. :lol:

[diamondsnake]

Did Dolly perform already? I just got home... I didn't think it started until 6 pacific time for some reason. What did I miss?
Yup, Dolly performed. Clooney won best supporting actor. And, you missed the worst Standup comedy (from John) that the Oscars has ever seen.

[stargazer99]

Yup, Dolly performed. Clooney won best supporting actor. And, you missed the worst Standup comedy (from John) that the Oscars has ever seen.

Yup, Dolly performed. Clooney won best supporting actor. And, you missed the worst Standup comedy (from John) that the Oscars has ever seen.

What's with all the hate for Jon Stewart? I thought his opening was pretty good.

Of course, I'm in love with him, so maybe I'm biased. :shrug:

[wondergirl9847]

He's so damn cute!!!! He looks like a doll. LOL!!

[macfanken]

Yup, Dolly performed.


Damn... I missed Dolly! Grrrrrr.

Clooney won best supporting actor. And, you missed the worst Standup comedy (from John) that the Oscars has ever seen.


Oh... poor John. :shocked:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

What's with all the hate for Jon Stewart? I thought his opening was pretty good.

Of course, I'm in love with him, so maybe I'm biased. :shrug:

No one really laughed...I actually felt bad for him...he seemed so out of place. He was much funnier on Oprah last week TALKING about hosting.

[wondergirl9847]

Keith Urban In A Tux!!!!!!!!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[macfanken]

I knew you wouldn't be back in time!!!

You totally missed Dolly do a kick ass performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, what's to do at the gym...do some crunches and get the hell home! ITS THE OSCARS! Couldn't you tell by the fact that there were no fags there. :lol:


Yeah, I noticed it got really quiet at 5:00... but I thought everyone was just having their pre-oscar drinks.

[stargazer99]

No one really laughed...I actually felt bad for him...he seemed so out of place. He was much funnier on Oprah last week TALKING about hosting.

I didn't see him on Oprah, unfortunately.

He seems like kind of a nervous guy to me, in general. I was expecting him to be really stiff, but he actually seemed more relaxed than I expected.

I really wasn't paying much attention to the crowd, so I didn't really notice their reaction. It just seems to me, though, that the Oscars is always pretty uptight, and everyone always seems to be smiling through clenched teeth.

I happened to love the Bjork joke!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Yeah, I noticed it got really quiet at 5:00... but I thought everyone was just having their pre-oscar drinks.

Just keep checking YouTube...maybe someone will post the Dolly performance. It was really great.

[diamondsnake]

Damn!!!!! Michelle didn't win! She was the best part of Brokeback!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Damn!!!!! Michelle didn't win!

Me upset too...I LOVE HER!

[wondergirl9847]

Those celebs for the most part are stiff as a corpse when they go to these awards. Leave it to Miss Dolly to try to get them to move...well, clap anyways. :rolleyes: I thought Jon did fine and he's WAY more tolerable than Chris Rock or David Letterman. :nod:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Wow...I always forget just HOW BEAUTIFUL Ms. Becall was back in her day! :thumbsup:

[diamondsnake]

This lady is shaking like a leaf. I've seen her a million times but I don't know her name.

[Miss Vicky]

Did anyone else think Dolly looked too thin? Like seriously unhealthy thin?

Her legs looked like chopsticks.

I think Stewart's doing a good job. I don't think I've ever seen a host that was great but I've seen many that were just torture to watch (cough cough Whoopi cough cough)

Oh, and love him or hate him, I thought Russell Crowe was looking pretty fine.

And it turns out, I've seen two more, um, forgettable nominated films:

King Kong and The Corpse Bride

[stargazer99]

Me upset too...I LOVE HER!

She was great in Brokeback. But I didn't expect her to win, since Rachel has won at every awards show this season.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

ha!

now these little skits are funny.

[diamondsnake]

What is that big bow on Charlize's shoulder?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

What is that bbig bow on Charleise's shoulder?

Anyone else want to rip it off. :wavey:

"That's my sash...

Those are my pearls..."


***ahh cinderella memories***

[diamondsnake]

Jennifer Lopez looks way too dark! She needs to adjust the number on her tanning bed.

[diamondsnake]

I'm glad Brokeback won Best Score. It was a beautiful score... I need to pick up the soundtrack.

[SapphireSister]

I'm a huge movie buff and have seen 90% of the nominees but to be honest I'm bored. The highlight of the show so far was Dolly's performance. Other than that, *snooze*.

The Golden Globes were SO MUCH more entertaining. I really thought I'd be into it this year since there were so many great films and performances but I'm really disappointed.

Poor Lauren Bacall. Did she forget her glasses or something? That was sad. She couldn't read the teleprompter.

I think John is doing a fine job, not the best but not bad either.

[SapphireSister]

I'm glad Brokeback won Best Score. It was a beautiful score... I need to pick up the soundtrack.

I couldn't agree more! I get chills when I hear the main song. Sweet speech too.

[diamondsnake]

I felt bad for Lauren as well. She was shaking like mad. I wonder what was wrong with her? And, I agree I am bored! But, I really want to see who wins best actor and best actress. And, of course Best Picture.

[Rickypt]

Could that performance of the song from Crash been just a little more pretentious? Ugh, just as obnoxious as the film.

Dolly, as always, pure class and the voice of an angel.

Other than that, a total snoozefest. Even Jon Stewart is boring me. The little commericals for Best Actress were great, though, because they had the Daily Show feel.

PRAY FOR DOLLY TO WIN!

[SapphireSister]

Jessica Alba is one of the most beautiful women in the world. I have loved her since Dark Angel. She may not be the most talented actress but my God could she be any more perfect looking? Face and body.

[SapphireSister]

Meryl Streep and Lilly Tomlin were adorable! Meryl has always been a favorite. I was watching one of her films from the 80's recently and something about her reminds me of Stevie (when they were both in their 30's more so). They are both strong, non-classical beauties with a sweet vulnerability and both true artists. Even their bone structure is similar. I can’t explain it but ever since I watched this movie of a young Meryl she has been reminding me of Stevie. Does anybody else see this?

[DrummerDeanna]

Dolly Parton has totally crossed that plastic surgery line :distress:

And just for the record...Catherine Keener has got to be the absolute MOST beautiful woman I have ever seen. Period.

[diamondsnake]

I'm starting to get a tad bored! Anyone else starting to fall asleep?

[DrummerDeanna]

Jennifer Lopez looks way too dark! She needs to adjust the number on her tanning bed.

She's Hispanic. We're naturally dark skinned.

[diamondsnake]

Dolly Parton has totally crossed that plastic surgery line :distress:

She is still not as bad as Joan Rivers. I'm just really glas that Stevie has not become a Plastic Surgery adict. Because, there is a point where yoour face becomes insanely deformed.

[Rickypt]

I'm starting to get a tad bored! Anyone else starting to fall asleep?

Indeed, I'm switching over to watch "Keeping Up Appearances" just as soon as I see Dolly win. She's got to win, these other songs suck eggs.

And yeah, Dolly looks weird, but she's Dolly...and would be the first to admit it.

[Livia]

Meryl Streep looks like better than ever! She finally got it right this year!

[DrummerDeanna]

How can you be bored!?! Whatever...this is GREAT show! I'm thouroughly enjoying it! My only request would be for more audience shots - that's my favorite part.

And no, Dolly is still not as bad as Joan Rivers...but man, she's getting there :eek:

[diamondsnake]

She's Hispanic. We're naturally dark skinned.
I've never seen her look so tan though. I thought it looked like a spray on.

Oh God!!!! Dolly just lost the Oscar to a song about Pimps???!!!! What is wrong with this world?

[Rickypt]

Whatever, at least Dolly wins for being the only entertaining and interesting person on the entire show.

I love you Dolly! :blob1:

[DrummerDeanna]

LOL...I can't even believe that song won..."I think it just got a little out here for a pimp" LOL...love the Jon!

[diamondsnake]

Indeed, I'm switching over to watch "Keeping Up Appearances" just as soon as I see Dolly win.

Unfortunately you are going to have to eat your words. She deserved to win though.

[diamondsnake]

Jennifer Garner is so cute! She does her own stunts!

[DrummerDeanna]

Whoa! Jennifer Garner still has those baby boobs :eek:

[SapphireSister]

WOOT WOOT!! OMG I'm so excited (and finally something to be excited about). Hustle and Flow was one of my favorite movies of the year so naturally I was stoked when it was nominated for 2 big awards - best actor and best original song. I love "It's Hard out Here for a Pimp" but never in a million years did I think it would win (although I was hoping). I just jumped up and down and screamed when it won. What a triumph! Frist Eminem, now Three-Six Mafia. I'm most excited because it's very un-Oscar like if you know what I mean. Normally these guys wouldn't be winning Oscars since hip-hop doesn't seem to be a favorite of The Academy.

The performance was great too. I love that the girl from the movie was the one singing. :thumbsup: She was great in the film.

[Rickypt]

Unfortunately you are going to have to eat your words. She deserved to win though.

I sooooooooo wanted to hear her acceptance speech. Sigh.

Hey, what's up with the orchestra playing music from the moment people start their speeches? It's distracting.

[SapphireSister]

I've never seen her look so tan though. I thought it looked like a spray on.

Oh God!!!! Dolly just lost the Oscar to a song about Pimps???!!!! What is wrong with this world?

Have you seen the movie? It's not just "a song about Pimps".

[DrummerDeanna]

Oh. And might I add that Catherine Keener is the most beautiful woman. Ever.

[SapphireSister]

Oh. And might I add that Catherine Keener is the most beautiful woman. Ever.

And might I add that Jessica Alba is the most beautiful woman ever :).

[DrummerDeanna]

And might I add that Jessica Alba is the most beautiful woman ever :).

No, you may not. Because unfortunately for Ms. Alba Catherine Keener already holds that post ;)

[diamondsnake]

And might I add that Jessica Alba is the most beautiful woman ever :).
And, I might add that Jennifer Garner is the most beautiful woman ever. Even if she isn't the most graceful!

[gldstwmn]

What's with all the hate for Jon Stewart? I thought his opening was pretty good.

Of course, I'm in love with him, so maybe I'm biased. :shrug:

"John" has been great this evening. I'm really enjoying him so far.

[DrummerDeanna]

And, I might add that Jennifer Garner is the most beautiful woman ever. Even if she isn't the most graceful!

Again, no. Becuase I do believe that it's scientifically proven that Catherine Keener is THE most beatiful woman...ever. Period. ;)

[SapphireSister]

No, you may not. Because unfortunately for Ms. Alba Catherine Keener already holds that post ;)

I think Catherine is very pretty, but not beautiful. And I remember seeing her in one movie where she was terribly skinny, like she was going to blow over in the wind skinny and it turned me off. I think maybe she has put on weight since than but I can't get that super-unhealthy skinny image of her out of my head. It was not attractive.

[diamondsnake]

Have you seen the movie? It's not just "a song about Pimps".
Okay, fine I never saw the movie. But I did see Transamerica and I think Dolly was fabulous. But, maybe I'm biased since I don't care for hip hop.

[GiniLeaE]

<center> Those celebs for the most part are stiff as a corpse when they go to these awards. Leave it to Miss Dolly to try to get them to move...well, clap anyways. :rolleyes: </center>

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Some interesting articles on "Good Golly Miss Dolly!"

Parton's Plea For Tolerance

By Peter Cooper, USA TODAY

NASHVILLE — Dolly Parton has no trouble relating to outsiders. "I've always been a weird, out-there freak myself," she says.

Growing up in the mountains of East Tennessee, she was used to not being accepted. "My grandfather was a Pentecostal preacher. It was a sin to even pluck your eyebrows, and they thought it was a sin for me to be there looking like Jezebel."

Her ability to identify with outcasts helped her to an Oscar nomination for Travelin' Thru, a song she wrote for the movie Transamerica. The main character is a pre-operative transsexual (played by Felicity Huffman) traveling the country with his son.

"Some things are strange to me, and some things are odd," says Parton, 60. "But I don't condemn. If you can accept me, I can accept you."

The ceremony March 5 won't be Parton's first Oscar experience; her 9 to 5 was nominated in 1980. But this time, she gets to perform.

She'll walk the red carpet in a Robert Behar-designed dress with Duncan Tucker, Transamerica's producer and director. (Of her husband of 40 years, Carl Dean, she says, "I can't even get him to go for a Big Mac, much less the Oscars.")

Tucker was instrumental in offering Parton direction for the song. "He wanted the song to be about redemption and about people's feelings," Parton says.

She struggled until one morning on her tour bus she had the idea for a spiritual theme and a gospel feel. She wrote: "God made me for a reason, and nothing is in vain/Redemption comes in many shapes with many kinds of pain." She finished in a day.

Parton is considering putting the song on a gospel album and doing a dance club version.

"Having a big gay following, I get hate mail and threats," she says. "Some people are blind or ignorant, and you can't be that prejudiced and hateful and go through this world and still be happy. One thing about this movie is that I think art can change minds. It's all right to be who you are."



PARTON THREATENED FOR HAVING GAY FANS

24/02/2006

Singer DOLLY PARTON has been bombarded with hate mail because of her popularity with the gay community.

The COAT OF MANY COLORS singer has a large gay male fan base, which has made her a target for hate-mongers.

She explains, "Having a big gay following, I get hate mail and threats."

The country music legend has received an Oscar nomination for writing the song TRAVELIN' THRU, from the movie TRANSAMERICA.

The film's main character is a pre-operative transsexual, played by DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES star FELICITY HUFFMAN.

The 9 TO 5 singer hopes the movie and her song can foster understanding and tolerance between people from different walks of life.

Parton explains, "Some people are blind or ignorant, and you can't be that prejudiced and hateful and go through this world and still be happy.

"One thing about this movie is that I think art can change minds. It's all right to be who you are."

Meanwhile, the 60 year old revealed she has spent over £1 million on improving her cleavage. She said: "My cleavage isn't insured for £1million - that's how much it costs to keep them up and looking good.”

Dolly's Tune Owes A Lot To Transsexual

With Jo Piazza and Chris Rovar
December 14, 2005

Gold standard Dolly Parton told us she had insider knowledge when writing her Golden Globe-nominated 'Travelin' Thru' for 'Transamerica.'

Bosomy Dolly Parton was even more buoyant than usual yesterday as she floated on the news of her first Golden Globe nomination.
"I'm just so tickled," chirped the country goddess, whose tune "Travelin' Thru" received a nod for Best Original Song.

Dolly composed the ballad for "Transamerica," in which fellow Globe nominee Felicity Huffman plays a woman who comes by her breasts the hard way - through a sex-change operation.

Parton told us you don't have to know the song is about a transsexual to like it. Given its Christian imagery, she said, "country fans may think it's gospel.

"That's not particularly the kind of movie they'd go to see. But it's a beautiful movie, and they might be lured to it by the song.

"I've known a few transsexuals," said Parton, who's something of a gay icon. In fact, she thinks "Travelin' Thru" turned out as well as it did thanks to the guidance of a friend who used to be a woman. "I have firsthand knowledge of how complicated the whole process can be," she went on. "I knew this person before, during and after he was a man. You might call him 'A Boy Named Sue.' That's what his name used to be.

"He works for me," Dolly went on. "He typed up the lyrics when I was writing and rewriting it."

[Keith]

was the winner of the Best Original Song. It was an integral part of the storyline, as you actually see and hear it come alive on the screen - not tacked on at the end.

[DrummerDeanna]

I think Catherine is very pretty, but not beautiful. And I remember seeing her in one movie where she was terribly skinny, like she was going to blow over in the wind skinny and it turned me off. I think maybe she has put on weight since than but I can't get that super-unhealthy skinny image of her out of my head. It was not attractive.


Gawd I think she's GORGEOUS....in The 40 Year Old Virgin! Man I almost wet myself! Her laugh...gah! Ok...excuse me...lol...thank goodness we all have differing tastes...otherwise we'd all be single...and only the "most beautiful" would get noogie.

[Rickypt]

I think Dolly Parton is the most beautiful person in the room tonight....maybe not physically but with her personality, energy, and heart. She gave the best performance and didn't need dancers or a stupid slow motion reenactment of the film. That woman gives me goosebumps!

[SapphireSister]

Okay, fine I never saw the movie. But I did see Transamerica and I think Dolly was fabulous. But, maybe I'm biased since I don't care for hip hop.

Dolly was fabulous, I couldn't agree more. But try not to judge "The Pimp Song" song just because it's hip-hop and has those lyrics. The main character in the movie may have been a pimp but the film had a much stronger message than that. It was a personal struggle that a lot of people could relate to, not just pimps lol. I highly recommend it if you havn't seen it.

[diamondsnake]

I think Dolly Parton is the most beautiful person in the room tonight....maybe not physically but with her personality, energy, and heart. She gave the best performance and didn't need dancers or a stupid slow motion reenactment of the film. That woman gives me goosebumps!
I agree. She has class!!!

[SapphireSister]

Gawd I think she's GORGEOUS....in The 40 Year Old Virgin! Man I almost wet myself! Her laugh...gah! Ok...excuse me...lol...thank goodness we all have differing tastes...otherwise we'd all be single...and only the "most beautiful" would get noogie.

Oh I just remembered, it was "Being John Malkovich" where Catherine was a walking skeleton and I don't find that attractive.

And yes, it's a good thing we all have different tastes!

[DrummerDeanna]

I agree. She has class!!!


Dolly!?! Class!?! :laugh:

Seriously though - the woman flat out says she wanted to grow up to be "trash" lol....

I LOVE DOlly and have my whole life, but I recognize that the song she was nominated for is not her strongest.

[GypsySorcerer]

Lauren Bacall looks amazing for 81. I felt bad that she couldn't see. :(

[DrummerDeanna]

WOOHOO!!! PHILIP!!!! He's a Rochester native (Fairport - a suburb actually) - this town has been PHILIP Crazy!! This is exciting.

[diamondsnake]

Damn!!! I thought Brokeback was going to sweep the Oscars, but they haven't won hardly anything!

[DrummerDeanna]

Damn!!! I thought Brookeback was going to sweep the Oscars, but they haven't won hardly anything!


Because good a movie as it was - it was not the strongest ....I think so far things have been going well!

[diamondsnake]

Dolly!?! Class!?! :laugh:

Seriously though - the woman flat out says she wanted to grow up to be "trash" lol....

I LOVE DOlly and have my whole life, but I recognize that the song she was nominated for is not her strongest.
Okay, maybe "class" wasn't the best word. But, I liked the way she performed. I thought it was classy. Just her and a microphone. No theatrics. No fire. No dancers. Subtlety is classy to me.

[GypsySorcerer]

Strong male acting nominees this year, IMO. Hoffman eerily captured Capote, IMO.

[DrummerDeanna]

Strong male acting nominees this year, IMO. Hoffman eerily captured Capote, IMO.


:nod: He is WAY talented....and his mum was there..SO cute! She's a local judge...and a single mom...very cool for her!

[macfanken]

Gawd I think she's GORGEOUS....in The 40 Year Old Virgin! Man I almost wet myself! Her laugh...gah! Ok...excuse me...lol...thank goodness we all have differing tastes...otherwise we'd all be single...and only the "most beautiful" would get noogie.

I agree... there is something about her that is really hot... she was definitely beautiful in "The 40 Year Old Virgin".

[SapphireSister]

Strong male acting nominees this year, IMO. Hoffman eerily captured Capote, IMO.

He was sensational and well deserving of this award. I have been a huge Hoffman fan since Magnolia. He is seriously one of the most talented actors of our time. I'm so glad he's finally getting the kudos he deserves.

[SapphireSister]

:nod: He is WAY talented....and his mum was there..SO cute! She's a local judge...and a single mom...very cool for her!

It wasn't the woman sitting next to him was it? I thought that was his date. Sse looked way too young to be his mom.

[DrummerDeanna]

It wasn't the woman sitting next to him was it? I thought that was his date. Sse looked way too young to be his mom.


I think it was :eek: But at first I thought the same thing - too young to be his mum! But when he said he brought his mom they kept showing her :shrug: She's a local judge..and I'm a news reporter..and I have no clue what she looks like :laugh:

[Rickypt]

Wow, so far Geisha is the big winner....and it was such a crappy movie. But a pretty one, which is why it's winning all the art awards.

[SapphireSister]

I think it was :eek: But at first I thought the same thing - too young to be his mum! But when he said he brought his mom they kept showing her :shrug: She's a local judge..and I'm a news reporter..and I have no clue what she looks like :laugh:

That can't be her! She must have been sitting somewhere else but they showed his date. That woman was too young lol. A local judge where?

[diamondsnake]

I love John Travolta! He has to be the most likeable guy in Hollywood. He was the only presenter that I thought wasn't stuck up. Him, and Jennifer Garner. But, how stuck up can you be when you almost fall on your face? lol

[Rickypt]

Okay, please, if there is a god....let Felicity win this one and not the overrated Reese Witherspoon.

[diamondsnake]

Oh that bow on Charlize's shoulder is horrible! It took up half the screen a second ago.

[DrummerDeanna]

I agree... there is something about her that is really hot... she was definitely beautiful in "The 40 Year Old Virgin".

:nod: :nod: That laugh...her smile...*swoon* lol

[diamondsnake]

Damn!!!! Felicity should have won.

[DrummerDeanna]

That can't be her! She must have been sitting somewhere else but they showed his date. That woman was too young lol. A local judge where?


I'll find out soon enough - if that was her - she'll be all over our papers tomorrow.

The family lives in Fairport which is a Rochester suburb..I think she's a judge in the city though (Rochester)

[Rickypt]

Damn!!!! Felicity should have won.

Of course she should have.

Hmmm, not too many opportunities left for a surprise. Except maybe Crash winning Best Picture, which would make me vomit.

[BombaySapphire3]

:D Okay Reese won where's my $20 Amber!

[DrummerDeanna]

Of course she should have.

Hmmm, not too many opportunities left for a surprise. Except maybe Crash winning Best Picture, which would make me vomit.


Wha!?! Why would that make you vomit?

[gldstwmn]

I'm starting to get a tad bored! Anyone else starting to fall asleep?

Yes, I almost did fall asleep a few times.

[gldstwmn]

Jennifer Garner is so cute! She does her own stunts!

Something was wrong with her forehead.

[GypsySorcerer]

I love Reese. :o :woohoo:

[DrummerDeanna]

Is Dustin Hoffman drunk? :laugh:

[GypsySorcerer]

Is Dustin Hoffman drunk? :laugh:
When he came out, I first thought, "What's he on?" :laugh:

[Rickypt]

Wha!?! Why would that make you vomit?

Because I hated it and couldn't believe it was even nominated.

[DrummerDeanna]

Because I hated it and couldn't believe it was even nominated.


:eek: :eek: You RACIST! I'm totally kidding.

That's interesting though...! I don't think I've met anyone who hated it! Any particular reason?

[gldstwmn]

Strong male acting nominees this year, IMO. Hoffman eerily captured Capote, IMO.

He's a great actor, one of my favorites. I loved him in Boogie Nights.

[GypsySorcerer]

Uma Thurman looks awesome. :D

[stargazer99]

Uma Thurman looks awesome. :D

I love her dress!

[diamondsnake]

I'm so glad Brokeback won best screenplay. But, boy was that woman who accepted the award out-of-it or what?

[DrummerDeanna]

I'm so glad Brokeback won best screenplay. But, boy was that woman who accepted the award out-of-it or what?

Maybe she and Dustin Hoffman were doing some blow in the back ;)

[diamondsnake]

Is Dustin Hoffman drunk? :laugh:
What was wrong with him? He looked so mean! He could have at least smiled.

[Rickypt]

:eek: :eek: You RACIST! I'm totally kidding.

That's interesting though...! I don't think I've met anyone who hated it! Any particular reason?

Everyone I know hated it. And we had a big conversation about it here, so I know I'm not alone.

I just thought it was too heavy-handed. I prefer subtlety, not being beaten over the head with the story and message.

Is it your favorite of the best picture nominees?

Mine is actually Capote, (actually it's Squid and the Whale, but that wasn't nominated) but I'm rooting for BB Mountain over Crash.

[DrummerDeanna]

Everyone I know hated it. And we had a big conversation about it here, so I know I'm not alone.

I just thought it was too heavy-handed. I prefer subtlety, not being beaten over the head with the story and message.

Is it your favorite of the best picture nominees?

Mine is actually Capote, (actually it's Squid and the Whale, but that wasn't nominated) but I'm rooting for BB Mountain over Crash.


Hmm..that's interesting..I haven't been here for a while - so I missed the Crash stuff....:\

I honestly don't have a favorite...oooh! Brokeback Mountain! That makes me happy :D Oops..that was for directing..lol..well if it wins I'll be happy....

Really I won't be disapointed as I think all the films nominated were great :)

[diamondsnake]

Go Ang Lee!!! Go Brokeback Mountain!!!

[Rickypt]

Ang Lee--totally deserving. I think BB has it locked up.

[diamondsnake]

OMG!!! I did not see that coming!!!! Crash???!!!!!

[DrummerDeanna]

WHOA!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

:blob1:

[estranged4life]

oh wait, Crash won...Same thing (ie-Buncha ****!)

[GypsySorcerer]

Holy sheet. :eek:

[wondergirl9847]

Wonder which Oscar will be talked/debated about the most this next week? Hmmmm.....

[stargazer99]

Ang Lee--totally deserving. I think BB has it locked up.

No offense, Ryan, but you really need to stop predicting, because you're a jinx! ;)


I was really rooting for BB. It's the only one of the nominated films I saw, though. But I thought it was an incredible movie.

[diamondsnake]

Holy sheet. :eek:
My thoughts exactly. I thought it would either be Brokeback or Capote!!!!

On another note, how rude was it that they just cut that woman off while she was still thanking people?

[Rickypt]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.

[Rickypt]

No offense, Ryan, but you really need to stop predicting, because you're a jinx!

I know, so sorry about that!

I am so stunned. I can understand that people enjoyed Crash, or were moved by it, but BEST PICTURE??

[diamondsnake]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.
I think Brokeback was robbed of best picture as well as best supporting actress. Michelle Williams gave me chills.

[SapphireSister]

WHOLY CRASH!

I had a feeling that was going to happen. I love surprises! Crash was a superb film, I am not in the least bit disappointed. I loved BB but didn't think it was the best picture of the year. There was a lot of talk in Hollywood this week that Crash would surprise everyone and win over BB, I guess they were right. I'm still pissed Walk the Line wasn't nominated for best picture. It was my favorite movie of the year and I'm not even a Johnny Cash fan (well at least I wasn't before the film).

[diamondsnake]

Oh What A Night!!!

[SapphireSister]

Out of curiosity, I wonder if there were any actual gay people involved in the making of BB (besides hair and make-up, jk). I mean I'm sure there were but the actors, director, and writers were all straight. Just an observation.

On edit: The screen adaptation writers were straight, not sure about the person who wrote the original short story.

[estranged4life]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.

I agree with you, especially on your points of man-on-man love versus bigotry...So true, so true, so f**kin true!!!

At least this dick waving fest is off now for another year, Had to miss my local news by 30+ minutes!!!

[GypsySorcerer]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.
I am surprised, but not really. They've really been hyping Crash lately.

[stargazer99]

Did anyone else think that Jack Nicholson was about to say "Just kidding" after he announced Crash? Maybe that was actually a "WTF" look.

[Rickypt]

Did anyone else think that Jack Nicholson was about to say "Just kidding" after he announced Crash? Maybe that was actually a "WTF" look.

I thought the same thing! But then he said "oh my god". Which I take to mean, oh my god, how could this have possible happened.

[Livia]

I'm not surprised that Crash won for best pic - that was the buzz on all the pre-award shows...and I thought it was a brilliant movie. I haven't seen the others, so I have nothing to compare it to, but I liked it. However, as much as I l love Matt Dillon, I did not believe his performance was Oscar-worthy. Don Cheadle's was though!

Charlize's bow, probably blocking Matt Dillon's view.

Worst dressed man: Love him, but Morgan Freeman. The only person who can get away with wearing an ascot is Thurston Howell, III.

Worst dressed woman: Frances McDormand - ugh!

Best dressed man: Tie: George Clooney and Will Smith

Best dressed women: Hard to choose, because most of 'em looked fabulous tonight! Even the women who went up for awards like documentaries, etc. They usually look like they just fell out of bed and threw something on and didn't bother to wear make-up. But not tonight! Nicole Kidman and Salma Hayek were particularly gorgeous.

[diamondsnake]

Did anyone else think that Jack Nicholson was about to say "Just kidding" after he announced Crash? Maybe that was actually a "WTF" look.
I thought that too. But, that would have been way too mean!

[stargazer99]

I thought the same thing! But then he said "oh my god". Which I take to mean, oh my god, how could this have possible happened.


Is that what he said? I did think I heard (or maybe lip read) the "Oh", but wasn't sure exactly what he said because they quickly panned to the winners.

[Rickypt]

not sure about the person who wrote the original short story.

I'm almost positive that she is straight. Oh, but I'd better not get into another discussion about speculating on someone's sexual orientation! :laugh:

[Rickypt]

Is that what he said? I did think I heard (or maybe lip read) the "Oh", but wasn't sure exactly what he said because they quickly panned to the winners.

I should clarify...it looked like he said "oh my god" (I can read lips pretty well being hard of hearing). But I don't know for sure.

[SapphireSister]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.

Is it possible that it wasn't a conspiracy against homosexuality and that the members of the Academy just thought Crash was a better movie? Trust me I'm the first person who would root for a same-sex themed movie to win an academy award (being that I'm gay) but I'm not totally convinced that the reason it lost was because it was a gay-themed movie.

I honestly didn't think BBM was the most incredible movie ever deserving of best picture but then again I don't think Crash was either. BBM was really good but not great. JMO.

[Miss Vicky]

Guys? Since when were the Oscars about who (or what film) was most deserving of accolades? It's all about politics and popularity and has been at least for as long as I've been watching it.

[GiniLeaE]

<center>Dolly Parton has totally crossed that plastic surgery line :distress: </center>

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[GypsySorcerer]

Whatever credibility the Academy had has gone out the window. Ick.

[Rickypt]

Is it possible that it wasn't a conspiracy against homosexuality and that the members of the Academy just thought Crash was a better movie?

Your theory is probably more valid than mine, but I just can't help but question this decision.

Roeper just said that Crash was a more important film than BB Mountain. That's BS, the messages are equally important.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm still pissed Walk the Line wasn't nominated for best picture. It was my favorite movie of the year and I'm not even a Johnny Cash fan (well at least I wasn't before the film).

Amen, Sister. :nod:

I haven't yet dared go to the Joaquin board to see just how pissed off the members are about PSH's win for Capote. It's probably real ugly over there.

[estranged4life]

Whatever credibility the Academy had has gone out the window. Ick.

ever have any credibility to begin with? Always seems to me this is Hollyweird's yearly political fiasco in movies.

[MoonChilde]

What has Dolly done to herself???:shrug: She has had way to much done to her face!!! I love Dolly..but sorry she looked like one of those puppets on a string her face didn't and can;t move.
and was this the night for necklaces on the actress's?? Did anyone else notice that most of the actress's weren;t wearing much jewlery?

[Livia]

Your theory is probably more valid than mine, but I just can't help but question this decision.

Roeper just said that Crash was a more important film than BB Mountain. That's BS, the messages are equally important.

If there was a conspiracy against homosexuality, then the academy wouldn't have given BBM jack-sh*t. jmho

[SapphireSister]

Your theory is probably more valid than mine, but I just can't help but question this decision.


Both of our theories are possibilities and you have every right to question the decision. I'm just trying to give another point of view. :thumbsup:

[GypsySorcerer]

ever have any credibility to begin with? Always seems to me this is Hollyweird's yearly political fiasco in movies.
It was pretty miniscule.

[Rickypt]

ever have any credibility to begin with? Always seems to me this is Hollyweird's yearly political fiasco in movies.

You and Miss Vicky have given me a badly needed splash of cold water. I hate the Oscars and my favorites weren't even nominated. I wasn't even a BB Mountain freak. I can't believe I'm getting all worked up over this. :lol:

[SapphireSister]

You and Miss Vicky have given me a badly needed splash of cold water. I hate the Oscars and my favorites weren't even nominated. I wasn't even a BB Mountain freak. I can't believe I'm getting all worked up over this. :lol:

Awww, have a drink on me honey! Oh and don't bother watching next year lol.

[GiniLeaE]

<center>Lauren Bacall looks amazing for 81. I felt bad that she couldn't see. :(</center>

<center> I kind of lost a bit of respect for her when she dissed Nicole for what others think of her. Nicole Kidman never asked to be called a LEGEND. Lauren got jealous and said that she hasn't earned that title and is just a BEGINNER! GEEZ...that was brutal, seeing as how she has done pretty well for herself for her age and Bacall's star has faded fast through the years. :shocked: </center>

[diamondsnake]

<center></center>

<center> I kind of lost a bit of respect for her when she dissed Nicole for what others think of her. Nicole Kidman never asked to be called a LEGEND. Lauren got jealous and said that she hasn't earned that title and is just a BEGINNER! GEEZ...that was brutal, seeing as how she has done pretty well for herself for her age and Bacall's star has faded fast through the years. :shocked: </center>
Did she say that tonight? How did I miss that?

[estranged4life]

You and Miss Vicky have given me a badly needed splash of cold water. I hate the Oscars and my favorites weren't even nominated. I wasn't even a BB Mountain freak. I can't believe I'm getting all worked up over this. :lol:

what some stupid ass "Academy" deemed to be the "Movie" for the following year (Have to talk to my sister tomorrow about this, since she has been in several movies)...Either I will like it or not, I dont need those asshydrants of an "Academy" to honor the best of the best.

I still havent seen BB Mountain, But I would like to see something win that will shake the system up...I guess I am too much an ethropist at heart!

[Rickypt]

Awww, have a drink on me honey! Oh and don't bother watching next year lol.

:xoxo:

I highly doubt I'll watch next year. I only watched tonight to see Dolly and then got caught up in it.

[GiniLeaE]

<center>Did she say that tonight? How did I miss that?</center>

<center> Oh, No...that was from an article interview during the movie they made together called "Birth". I will find the article and post it. I will have to say that she also dissed Tom Cruise, which I totally agree with...but who doesn't think he's gone loony! :laugh: </center>

[GiniLeaE]

<center> :xoxo:

I highly doubt I'll watch next year. I only watched tonight to see Dolly and then got caught up in it. </center>

<center> Same here! :shrug: I wanted Dolly and Felicity to win so bad...but it was not to be :distress: I just wanted to hear Dolly's speech that she had planned about Transexuals and it was going to be so funny and heartwarming!! :nod: </center>

[Rickypt]

Since I'm grouchy, I'd like to say that while I appreciated what George Clooney was trying to say about being proud to be out of touch, it is total crap that Hollywood addressed AIDS when everyone else was whispering about it. Hollywood was just as shamefully late in acknowledging the epidemic as everyone else. He picked the wrong example there.

Oh well, at least I have GiniLeaE's pretty emails to look at.

[Red]

I am pissed...PISSED...that Brokeback didn't win. It soooooo should have. And I'm a Crash fan. What the hell? I didn't quite believe it...and there was a total collective gasp from the audience too. Well I'm just going to have to sit here and sulk now.:(

[sparky]

Sorry, but this is a total joke.

I will now repeat my conspiracy theory that I posted when Crash was announced as a nominee. I said that there is a conservative element in the Academy that wouldn't want a man-on-man love movie to win, and would push Crash as the winner so that it couldn't get accused of bigotry.

There is no way that Crash was the best picture of the year. This is a disgrace in my humble opinion.

Of course it is a disgrace, and of course there is a conservative element in the academy that wouldn't even WATCH the BBM screeners. That was the talk of the town months ago.

I saw Crash last week, and thought it had the sophistication and emotional impact of an ABC afterschool special. It was amateurish, and a total mishmash. I have seen many films about race that were moving and relevant and Crash isn't among them. It was okay. I didn't hate it, didn't love it. It made me feel almost nothing. The scene at the end was the only part that made me react at all. It had too many characters, too many plots, and not enough screen time was given to any of them to allow the audience to invest emotion in them. The plot was an unbelievable contrivance, and some of the lines in the script were unintentionally funny. It is the weakest film to win Best Picture in all the years I have watched the awards. It isn't crap, but it isn't anywhere near the league of the others nominated.

In a month, no one will care about Crash. It will be a footnote in the annals of moviemaking. The most remarkable thing about it will be that it upset Brokeback. That's it. I know of no one who said Crash changed their lives, or their minds about anything. It wasn't hard hitting, it wasn't controversial, it wasn't much of anything at all. It has no cultural significance. The issues it addresses have been done leagues better by other films throughout history. It's a blip on the radar in terms of quality and importance. Even the director said in an interview that BBM was hands down the best movie of the year.

It is telling that BP is the only award that all 6500 members of the academy vote on. Many of the older members are VERY conservative, and that explains everything. But really, it is no matter. Many of the greatest films made didn't win BP, and the list of the ones that did that everyone has forgotten is pretty damned long.

Am I bitter ? Of course I am. But I know I a great movie when I see it, and Crash was not a great movie. It was a decent movie. That's it.

[GiniLeaE]

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[Brwn_eyes0511]

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[Villavic]

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<center> Same here! :shrug: I wanted Dolly and Felicity to win so bad...but it was not to be :distress: I just wanted to hear Dolly's speech that she had planned about Transexuals and it was going to be so funny and heartwarming!! :nod: </center>

And I wanted Michelle Williams to win, too.
I've only seen BBM, not the others yet, though Capote looks very interesting. From what I saw, I guess Seymour deserved the Oscar.

[JazmenFlowers]

well...I said it. I knew BBM wouldn't sweep like everyone was expecting. the Oscars can suck it. they should be ashamed, imo. Dolly's song should have won, hands down. BBM should have received some kind of actor/actress Oscar. and Ang Lee didn't even thank the actors in the movie...or did he and I just missed it? Stewart as host was fabulous, I thought. Poor Lauren Bacall...why did that give that bat that much to recite??? She was shaking so bad. At first, I couldn't tell if it was her or me.

All in all, it sucked.

[cliffdweller]

Here are my annual Oscar predictions...

Best Supporting Actress: Rachel Weisz for The Constant Gardener. I would really prefer Michelle Williams to win for Brokeback Mountain, but I think the Academy will honor Rachel.

Best Supporting Actor: This could go to either George Clooney for Syriana (he has 3 nominations this year and will probably win this one) or Matt Dillon for Crash. I would love to see Matt Dillon - one of my favorite actors - win and the Academy very well could honor him because this was a terrific role, but George Clooney is so beloved in Hollywood. This will be an interesting category.

Best Actress: Reese Witherspoon for Walk The Line. There is a huge buzz behind Felicity Huffman in Transamerica (and wouldn't that be something if she won?), but I don't think enough people have seen that movie. My bet is that it's Reese's night.

Best Actor: Phillip Seymour Hoffman for Capote. My favorite working actor today, he was brilliant in this role and the Academy truly respects this amazingly talented actor.

Best Director: Ang Lee for Brokeback Mountain. A gorgeous, sweeping, beautiful movie.

Best Film: Crash. While Brokeback Mountain could very well win (and deservingly so), I think that the Academy will vote for Crash for it's social commentary and it's bold look at racism in America.

rbs


I hope you bet on this, because you got every category correct!

[cliffdweller]

If there was a conspiracy against homosexuality, then the academy wouldn't have given BBM jack-sh*t. jmho

They got what, best director and best original screenplay? How about score? I didn't catch that one.

I still think the academy played it safe by not giving BBM best picture yet playing the hand-out by awarding Ang Lee best director. Give me a break :rolleyes:.

[wondergirl9847]

Stewart as host was fabulous, I thought.

He's getting slammed all over the media, but I thought he was hilarious. Loved the ads and hearing Stephen Colbert's voice in them. Hee!

The audience aren't used to a funny host, I guess...they didn't know what to do with themselves. ;)

[cliffdweller]

I saw Crash last week, and thought it had the sophistication and emotional impact of an ABC afterschool special. It was amateurish, and a total mishmash. I have seen many films about race that were moving and relevant and Crash isn't among them. It was okay. I didn't hate it, didn't love it. It made me feel almost nothing. The scene at the end was the only part that made me react at all. It had too many characters, too many plots, and not enough screen time was given to any of them to allow the audience to invest emotion in them. The plot was an unbelievable contrivance, and some of the lines in the script were unintentionally funny. It is the weakest film to win Best Picture in all the years I have watched the awards. It isn't crap, but it isn't anywhere near the league of the others nominated.

I totally agree. I hated Crash. To me, it was just standard Hollywood fare :shrug:

And who else thinks that Matt Dillon probably wasn't even acting in that role? :laugh: I can't stand that guy.

[Livia]

And who else thinks that Matt Dillon probably wasn't even acting in that role? :laugh: I can't stand that guy.

I love him, but did NOT believe that his performance was Oscar-worthy (see my post on page 11 of this thread). :)

[chiliD]

But I do have to say that this host sucks!!!! He is so not funny! Why do they pick the most uncomfortable people to host these awards? Couldn't they pick someone pleasant?

I think this was the BEST Oscar show in the last 20 years (or longer). Jon Stewart was GREAT! I hope they make him the permanent host.

Can't say I agree with the results of the voting, but I can't really complain, since I don't get to vote.

[JazmenFlowers]

I think this was the BEST Oscar show in the last 20 years (or longer). Jon Stewart was GREAT! I hope they make him the permanent host.

Can't say I agree with the results of the voting, but I can't really complain, since I don't get to vote.
Stewart was perfect, wasn't he. I loved him.

[madformac]

Guys? Since when were the Oscars about who (or what film) was most deserving of accolades? It's all about politics and popularity and has been at least for as long as I've been watching it.

Yes indeed. "The Oscars" is self indulgent style over content and utter ****e.

The best performances and films rarely win anything. The academy is stuffed full of pompous self importants all trying not to age. It's the ultimate country club. If you don't play by the rules or your face doesn't fit in forget it. I actually quite admire George Clooney (never thought I would say that) because he has managed to walk the thin line between Academy acceptability and remaining true to your craft.

[bikerchic]

Love Jon Stewart, thought he was great.

I loved Crash but I think Brokeback was better.

Someone had said that the Crash character storylines were too simple or something, that's what made the movie, the simplicity of the characters yet such a strong message.

5,000 of the 6,000 Academy voters live in L.A., Crash takes place in L.A., that's why it won.

Hollywood is just not quite ready for a gay cowboy movie to win Best Pic.

I saw Walk the Line and I thought Reese was great, but an Academy award? :shrug:

[trackaghost]

I still think the academy played it safe by not giving BBM best picture yet playing the hand-out by awarding Ang Lee best director. Give me a break :rolleyes:.

I totally agree. I hated Crash. To me, it was just standard Hollywood fare :shrug:


I totally agree. It's a disgrace Crash won. I absolutely hated it too. The Academy were definitely playing it safe especially with so many political movies in the running this year, racism was obviously the safest option. Shame it's a terrible, self-important movie.

I'm glad Philip Seymour Hoffman won though. He's an incredible actor and really deserved it. I think Reese Witherspoon deserved her Oscar too but Rachel Weisz?? Catherine Keener was robbed!

[madformac]

The Academy were definitely playing it safe especially with so many political movies in the running this year, racism was obviously the safest option. Shame it's a terrible, self-important movie.


Yes it's interesting that racism was the safest option for an academy that has seen only 14 African-American nominations for best actor in it's entire history and an academy that only took 74 years to award best actress to an African-American nominee. :rolleyes:

[kak125]

I absolutely loved the movie Crash and I was glad that it won the Oscar. Now, I have not seen Brokeback Mountain so my opinion might change once I see that movie but I dont see what all the hype is about anyway?

[chiliD]

I totally agree. It's a disgrace Crash won. I absolutely hated it too. The Academy were definitely playing it safe especially with so many political movies in the running this year, racism was obviously the safest option. Shame it's a terrible, self-important movie.

I'm glad Philip Seymour Hoffman won though. He's an incredible actor and really deserved it. I think Reese Witherspoon deserved her Oscar too but Rachel Weisz?? Catherine Keener was robbed!


Exactly HOW difficult (and a stretch of the imagination) is it to play a real life person? :shrug: Maybe the Academy needs to make another category for "biographical interpretation". Heath Ledger was robbed. :mad:

Oh, and calling all casting directors...Philip Seymour Hoffman should be cast in the lead when it comes time for The Elton John Story.

Rachel Weisz was a "make up" vote for her not being nominated for the two Mummy movies! :D

[madformac]

Rachel Weisz was a "make up" vote for her not being nominated for the two Mummy movies! :D

Lol. But it's a point worth mentioning. They did it when they awarded best supporting actress to Judi Dench for an average performance in "Shakespeare In Love" when it was an absolute disgrace she did not win best actress the year before for "Mrs Brown"

A token handout.

[trackaghost]

Yes it's interesting that racism was the safest option for an academy that has seen only 14 African-American nominations for best actor in it's entire history and an academy that only took 74 years to award best actress to an African-American nominee. :rolleyes:

So you thought Crash deserved the Oscar over Brokeback Mountain?
Also you don't think the Academy may be well aware of its history and wanted to make a statement with awarding the Oscar to Crash?
Roll your eyes all you want. Giving it to Crash was giving the Oscar for the message not the art of movie making IMO

[trackaghost]

Exactly HOW difficult (and a stretch of the imagination) is it to play a real life person? :shrug: Maybe the Academy needs to make another category for "biographical interpretation". Heath Ledger was robbed. :mad:

Oh, and calling all casting directors...Philip Seymour Hoffman should be cast in the lead when it comes time for The Elton John Story.

Rachel Weisz was a "make up" vote for her not being nominated for the two Mummy movies! :D

I think Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams were both deserving as well though, I would have been just as happy if either had won. It was an especially tough category for Best Actor this year.
I don't think playing a real person makes an actor's performance any less powerful personally.

[madformac]

So you thought Crash deserved the Oscar over Brokeback Mountain?

I've not seen either yet so I can't comment properly.

I would say if I had to put my money on the academy awarding the best picture award to either a movie that deals with racism or homosexuality then the racism wins every time. Hollywood has only recently acknowledged performances by African-American actors because it can't keep it's head stuck in the sand any longer. I think to be honest it will take Hollywood a little longer to deal with homosexuality. Tom Hanks put in an incredible performance in Philadelphia and it was seen as a breakthough in the industry at the time but I guess they have slipped back into conformity.

[DavidMn]

Well, I predicted Crash yesterday afternoon.

[strandinthewind]

I've not seen either yet so I can't comment properly.

I would say if I had to put my money on the academy awarding the best picture award to either a movie that deals with racism or homosexuality then the racism wins every time. Hollywood has only recently acknowledged performances by African-American actors because it can't keep it's head stuck in the sand any longer. I think to be honest it will take Hollywood a little longer to deal with homosexuality. Tom Hanks put in an incredible performance in Philadelphia and it was seen as a breakthough in the industry at the time but I guess they have slipped back into conformity.

and what kills me is in an attempt to overcompensate for that racism, they tossed Halle Barry and Denzel bones for clearly inferior performances. In other words, the mere fact that they were black got them that Award because the performance sure as hell did not. Flash forward to this year and the BBM male performaces were worthy of the award as was the film. That being said, PSH clearly was as well and he also was playing a wildly gay character. So, clearly there can be no hint of prejudice there.

In the end, Crash is a good film, but not in the same class as any of its fellow nominees.

Finally, I often wonder how valid the Academy conspiracy voting theories are. I mean they do not have a meeting and say "do not vote for this one" - etc. Maybe they do it through amount spent on the trade ads :shrug:

[DavidMn]

and what kills me is in an attempt to overcompensate for that racism, they tossed Halle Barry and Denzel bones for clearly inferior performances. In other words, the mere fact that they were black got them that Award because the performance sure as hell did not. Flash forward to this year and the BBM male performaces were worthy of the award as was the film. That being said, PSH clearly was as well and he also was playing a wildly gay character. So, clearly there can be no hint of prejudice there.

In the end, Crash is a good film, but not in the same class as any of its fellow nominees.

Finally, I often wonder how valid the Academy conspiracy voting theories are. I mean they do not have a meeting and say "do not vote for this one" - etc. Maybe they do it through amount spent on the trade ads :shrug:I remember Denzel well, that Russell Crowe shouldve won. I think he lost it becasue of the "Asshole" factor associated with him. Who do you think shouldve won instead of Halle?

[trackaghost]

I've not seen either yet so I can't comment properly.

I would say if I had to put my money on the academy awarding the best picture award to either a movie that deals with racism or homosexuality then the racism wins every time. Hollywood has only recently acknowledged performances by African-American actors because it can't keep it's head stuck in the sand any longer. I think to be honest it will take Hollywood a little longer to deal with homosexuality. Tom Hanks put in an incredible performance in Philadelphia and it was seen as a breakthough in the industry at the time but I guess they have slipped back into conformity.

Well I agree. Again I think the Oscar was given to Crash for its message (one that Hollywood can easily get behind, especially given its history, that racism is wrong) not because it's a better movie than Brokeback Mountain.
I think the other movies are more controversial on the whole - Munich (terrorism, wrongful shootings etc), Good Night And Good Luck (political pressure, freedom of the press - still particularly relevant in America at this time), Brokeback Mountain (homosexuality). Crash in many ways had the least controversial message IMO (that is hammered home in the movie), in the liberal-minded Hollywood of today anyway.

[madformac]

Also you don't think the Academy may be well aware of its history and wanted to make a statement with awarding the Oscar to Crash?
Roll your eyes all you want. Giving it to Crash was giving the Oscar for the message not the art of movie making IMO

I was rolling my eyes at the pathetic amount of time it has taken for the racist mentality of the Academy to fall. I guess many of the older, possibly white supremisist, members have now shuffled off the mortal coil and the Academy has a lot more younger open minded individuals. I'd like to think that anyway. But on the other hand it could have been a PR stunt by the senior members to portray the Academy as more open and understanding towards a more cultural society.

[madformac]

I remember Denzel well, that Russell Crowe shouldve won. I think he lost it becasue of the "Asshole" factor associated with him. Who do you think shouldve won instead of Halle?

Russell would win Best Asshole in a Leading Role for sure. :laugh:

I like Halle Berry (:p ) but I sometimes doubt she has, or has been given the chance to show true gravity in a role. I've not seen her push herself in a role to the point I forget it's Halle and believe it's the character and that, for me, is the deciding factor in an award winning performance.

[strandinthewind]

I remember Denzel well, that Russell Crowe shouldve won. I think he lost it becasue of the "Asshole" factor associated with him. Who do you think shouldve won instead of Halle?

Like him as a person or not, RC was robnbed that year. I mean the following won in a movie he carried:

Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Jennifer Connelly

[and mind you she beat out serious competition with Helen Mirren, Gosford Park - Maggie Smith, Gosford Park - Marisa Tomei, In the Bedroom - Kate Winslet, Iris ]

Best Director

Ron Howard

Best Picture
Brian Grazer
Ron Howard

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Akiva Goldsman

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/awards

So, I think the odds were just a little stacked that year :laugh:

As for Halle - here is a list of the nominees:

Actress in a Leading Role

Halle Berry, Monster's Ball

Judi Dench, Iris
Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
Renée Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary
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IMO - Sissy Spacek deserved it and I could have seen Nicole getting it. Judi was pretty fab. in Iris as well.

[strandinthewind]

. . . I guess many of the older, possibly white supremisist . . . .

in a town historically run by Jews :shrug:

[DavidMn]

Like him as a person or not, RC was robnbed that year. I mean the following won in a movie he carried:

Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Jennifer Connelly

[and mind you she beat out serious competition with Helen Mirren, Gosford Park - Maggie Smith, Gosford Park - Marisa Tomei, In the Bedroom - Kate Winslet, Iris ]

Best Director

Ron Howard

Best Picture
Brian Grazer
Ron Howard

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Akiva Goldsman

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/awards

So, I think the odds were just a little stacked that year :laugh:

As for Halle - here is a list of the nominees:

Actress in a Leading Role

Halle Berry, Monster's Ball

Judi Dench, Iris
Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
Renée Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary
__________________________________________________

IMO - Sissy Spacek deserved it and I could have seen Nicole getting it. Judi was pretty fab. in Iris as well.Now that you mention it, I remember thinking Nicole Kidman was going to win that award.

[cliffdweller]

HOW difficult (and a stretch of the imagination) is it to play a real life person? :shrug:


Have you seen Capote? I'm not sure how you can ask this question if you have.

[DavidMn]

Maybe I'm totally off base here, but I was looking at the nominations the other day, and it struck me how in almost all of the major categories, the nominees were ALL contenders with solid performances. I mean usually there's at least one nominee that has no chance to win at all. Maybe that's why the awards were so split up thisa year. And on that note, isnt it rare for Director and Picture to split?

[estranged4life]

Actress in a Leading Role
Halle Berry, Monster's Ball
Judi Dench, Iris
Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge
Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
Renée Zellweger, Bridget Jones's Diary


Halle Berry winning it for a lame movie when she should have won for a possible better performance in another movie seems like "a gimme" award (An award show equivelant of a "Mulligan")...

Very similar to Jethro Tull winning a Grummie (Y'all call 'em Grammies) for "Best Metal" over Metallica, To only see Metallica win the award the next year because "the powers that be" realized they screwed up and need to rectify their mistake.

Call it racism ("How can the world have racism when there is only the human race on the planet...What is there, another race of beings here that we dont know of?"-George Carlin), or whatever, but I feel someone should win on merit/skill, not skin color...Was the Academy wrong by not nominating Blacks in the past? Sure...But handing out a "gimme" wont rectify that problem

Brian "Oh, I'm such a racist...guess it must be the Cherokee in me moreso than the Irish" j.

Afterthought-Halle Berry's best performance EVER was in the CBS mini-series of Alex Haley & David Stephens epic "Queen"

[cliffdweller]

Well I agree. Again I think the Oscar was given to Crash for its message

Yes, it's safe, "well duh" message. Don't get me wrong, Crash had a good message, but, it's not really edgy. The particular themes it dealt with have been presented time and again in other films, so what's so groundbreaking and urgent about this movie? I'd say nothing. And the performances were pretty weak and unmoving imo, they, like the movie itself, were totally forgettable.

BBM on the other hand is a movie that stays with you long after you leave the theater. It should've won best picture. Damn the academy!

[strandinthewind]

Yes, it's safe, "well duh" message. Don't get me wrong, Crash had a good message, but, it's not really edgy. The particular themes it dealt with have been presented time and again in other films, so what's so groundbreaking and urgent about this movie? I'd say nothing. And the performances were pretty weak and unmoving imo, they, like the movie itself, were totally forgettable.

BBM on the other hand is a movie that stays with you long after you leave the theater. It should've won best picture. Damn the academy!

See, I think WTL could have won as well and it certainly was not an edgy film when compared to the others. Then again, I am not all about edgy films - this coming from the one who was elated with Titantic won becuase I loved it :laugh:

[Richard B]

Exactly HOW difficult (and a stretch of the imagination) is it to play a real life person?
Very difficult. Especially if you're playing a character as quirky as Truman Capote. To be spot on in capturing the essence of someone take after take, scene after scene. Watching Hoffman in Capote had me feeling as though I was watching archive footage of Capote. He was very good, it is very hard to do what he did and he very much deserved the Oscar. Certainly more than H. Ledger.

As an actor, playing your own character creation is easier to do for the most part, not saying it is not difficult, but it's much harder to stay in character playing a known figure than your own character creation.

[DavidMn]

See, I think WTL could have won as well and it certainly was not an edgy film when compared to the others. Then again, I am not all about edgy films - this coming from the one who was elated with Titantic won becuase I loved it :laugh:regarding Titanic, how the hell did Kim Basinger win over Gloria Stewart?:mad:

[wondergirl9847]

I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to play a real person versus a character because you have an entire canvas with an original character. You can pretty much do what you want and make them however YOU see them. With a real person who lived and people are familiar with, you have to stay true to that person's speech patterns, mannerisms, quirks, etc. Also, NOT come off like a loon in being a charicature. I've not seen BBM or Capote (or ANY of the movies nom'ed. LOL), but that's JMO.

[cliffdweller]

See, I think WTL could have won as well and it certainly was not an edgy film when compared to the others. Then again, I am not all about edgy films - this coming from the one who was elated with Titantic won becuase I loved it :laugh:

No, and I understand that. But if the point of the academy was to give the Oscar to a politically edgy/relevant film, then that point should have been made with BBM not Crash. What a tired film that was. I'm sorry, I just thought that movie was weak.

[strandinthewind]

No, and I understand that. But if the point of the academy was to give the Oscar to a politically edgy/relevant film, then that point should have been made with BBM not Crash. What a tired film that was. I'm sorry, I just thought that movie was weak.


Oops - I missed your point :cool:

I thought Crash was okay, but not great. I also thought The Constant Gardner was glacier like to watch, though I found it interesting.

[cliffdweller]

I also thought The Constant Gardner was glacier like to watch, though I found it interesting.


I agree, but I LOOOOOOVE Ralph Fiennes! That man can do no wrong in my book.

[chiliD]

As an actor, playing your own character creation is easier to do for the most part, not saying it is not difficult, but it's much harder to stay in character playing a known figure than your own character creation.

Well, yes...but, 99.99% of the characters on the screen aren't really the actors doing their OWN character creation. They're STILL attempting to create the character vision of the director or writer, correct? Unless the actor himself wrote the screenplay or the adapted work, or is also the director, that is.

[strandinthewind]

I agree, but I LOOOOOOVE Ralph Fiennes! That man can do no wrong in my book.

Do you rewind, pause, and frame advance the nude stair scene in Red Dragon :angel:

[JazmenFlowers]

Do you rewind, pause, and frame advance the nude stair scene in Red Dragon :angel:
child I have. oh my.

[DavidMn]

Speaking of Gloria Stuart, she was who's next door neighbor in the 90's?

[Rickypt]

Yes it's interesting that racism was the safest option for an academy that has seen only 14 African-American nominations for best actor in it's entire history and an academy that only took 74 years to award best actress to an African-American nominee. :rolleyes:

Kind of weakens George Clooney's speech a bit.

[cliffdweller]

Well, yes...but, 99.99% of the characters on the screen aren't really the actors doing their OWN character creation. They're STILL attempting to create the character vision of the director or writer, correct?


Well sure, but the actor still devises and creates their own method for portraying a character whether that character is historical or not. I don't think you could've easily replaced PSH with just any actor and gotten the same brilliant, nuanced performance, no way, no how.

[JazmenFlowers]

Kind of weakens George Clooney's speech a bit.
doesn't it. he seems quite fake to me anyway.

I love when a "hearthrob/hunk/whatever" attempts to be prolific and intelligent.

[strandinthewind]

Kind of weakens George Clooney's speech a bit.

Well, not really. I mean when considered in the historical context of the world, I'd say that though not stellar, it is not that bad and all signs indicate it got better as the world got better. I mean is there any question that the world and the Academy as a subset of that are far less racist (and even homophobic) than they were 15-20 years ago :shrug: So, I think Clooney correctly asserted that.

On edit - I am in no way saying eveything is peachy keen these days. It is not and there is room for vast improvement. I am just saying things have gotten better and I think Hollywood has had a hand in that improvement because it greatly influences pop culture and society as a whole.

[cliffdweller]

Do you rewind, pause, and frame advance the nude stair scene in Red Dragon :angel:


Oh my god, he was so hot in that movie, and I hate admitting that because he was a lunatic psycho killer, but geezus that man is gorgeous.

[DavidMn]

child I have. oh my.Yeah, he has a rather nice behind doesnt he?

[strandinthewind]

Oh my god, he was so hot in that movie, and I hate admitting that because he was a lunatic psycho killer, but geezus that man is gorgeous.

I trust you saw Sunshine?

[Rickypt]

Well, not really. I mean when considered in the historical context of the world, I'd say that though not stellar, it is not that bad and all signs indicate it got better as the world got better. I mean is there any question that the world and the Academy as a subset of that are far less racist (and even homophobic) than they were 15-20 years ago :shrug: So, I think Clooney correctly asserted that.

I thought Clooney was trying to say that the Academy has been way ahead of everyone else on things like racism. Which it isn't.

[chiliD]

I thought Clooney was trying to say that the Academy has been way ahead of everyone else on things like racism. Which it isn't.

Well, considering they gave an Oscar to a black actress in 1939...I'd say they were (emphasis on the past tense)...but, then, between 1939 & Sidney Poitier, how many decent roles were there for black actors/actresses? Not many. That's not the Academy's fault...that's the film studios'.

[cliffdweller]

I trust you saw Sunshine?


Sunshine? I've never heard of it, do tell!

[strandinthewind]

I thought Clooney was trying to say that the Academy has been way ahead of everyone else on things like racism. Which it isn't.

Well, it kind of has been. His point was it gave Hattie McDaniel an Oscar in 1939 for Gone With the Wind. In 1939, most of the country refused to eat or even watch movies with black people (that was not just in the South - though it was worse there) - So, that was a huge thing that happened 20 years before the Civil Rights movement, etc. -

Then, he noted Hollywood's awareness of AIDS, which I truly believe were it not for Elizabeth Taylor and her tireless efforts would have been largely ignored far longer than it was. Finally, I think he was commenting on his flim and how it will raise awareness to politics, which Hollywood has been doing since the Silent era.

So, I conclude that though there is room for significant improvement, Clooney correctly concluded Hollywood and the Academy Awards are somewhat ahead of the curve.

[DavidMn]

Well, it kind of has been. His point was it gave Hattie McDaniel an Oscar in 1939 for Gone With the Wind. In 1939, most of the country refused to eat or even watch movies with black people (that was not just in the South - though it was worse there) - So, that was a huge thing that happened 20 years before the Civil Rights movement, etc. -

Then, he noted Hollywood's awareness of AIDS, which I truly believe were it not for Elizabeth Taylor and her tireless efforts would have been largely ignored far longer than it was. Finally, I think he was commenting on his flim and how it will raise awareness to politics, which Hollywood has been doing since the Silent era.

So, I conclude that though there is room for significant improvement, Clooney correctly concluded Hollywood and the Academy Awards are somewhat ahead of the curve.Good points Jason. I agree with you.:nod:

[strandinthewind]

Sunshine? I've never heard of it, do tell!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145503/

Lots of nudity!!!

[Richard B]

Well, yes...but, 99.99% of the characters on the screen aren't really the actors doing their OWN character creation. They're STILL attempting to create the character vision of the director or writer, correct? Unless the actor himself wrote the screenplay or the adapted work, or is also the director, that is.
That's generally true. A character is worked by the director's vision of how he wants to see a character. However, that's why he casts a certain actor...to bring it to life. I've brought my own ideas of a character into the mix that a director never thought of and actually likes. It really is a collaboration. Writer's don't have much leadway in what happens once filming begins, in fact they get alot of rewrites during filming. Especially if a way a line is written that, say, just doesn't work or sounds odd once spoken as opposed to written.

Another very hard aspect of film acting over stage acting is continuity. First day of filming could be the last scene of a film. Gathering up emotions and being spot on immediately without that momentum of character build-up you get on stage is really difficult. Knowing how hard PSH worked on Capote really blew me away. He really deserved his Oscar. I was also rooting for Capote for BP.

[Rickypt]

Well, it kind of has been. His point was it gave Hattie McDaniel an Oscar in 1939 for Gone With the Wind. In 1939, most of the country refused to eat or even watch movies with black people (that was not just in the South - though it was worse there) - So, that was a huge thing that happened 20 years before the Civil Rights movement, etc. -

Then, he noted Hollywood's awareness of AIDS, which I truly believe were it not for Elizabeth Taylor and her tireless efforts would have been largely ignored far longer than it was. Finally, I think he was commenting on his flim and how it will raise awareness to politics, which Hollywood has been doing since the Silent era.

So, I conclude that though there is room for significant improvement, Clooney correctly concluded Hollywood and the Academy Awards are somewhat ahead of the curve.

All good points. I'm not sure I can give Hollywood the credit on AIDS that Clooney did, but you're probably right that things would have been even worse without the work of a couple of champions in Hollywood.