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golden braid
08-01-2005, 12:52 PM
Yesterday I decided to drive to Reno early in the day to make sure I had plenty of time before the show. When I drove there two years ago to see the Mac I probably gave myself ulcers because I was stuck in so much traffic and almost missed the show. So I got to Reno in the early afternoon and thought I would wander around town since I had nothing else to do. There was a big display of cars downtown so that was kinda cool to look at. Other than that, however, Reno sucks! The hotels are just basically casinos and that's it. There are no nice shops, nothing. I did also do a little bit of people watching since there are some interesting people there, a few too many who don't have very many teeth. Several of those people actually came up to me asking me for change or cigarettes too. So enough of Reno, I will get to the show since there were a few changes.

I will start off with the good news. I didn't witness any drunken fights like I did last time and Stevie didn't cry. The crowd was kinda weird though. Most people were sitting even in the front row. And no one really seemed to recognize her big hits until she'd actually start singing, Rhiannon being an example. But by the end of the show the crowd seemed to be really into it and lots of people were standing and cheering. After Edge of 17 and before Rock and Roll the crowd was chanting, "STEVIE!, STEVIE!, STEVIE!" I don't know if I had ever heard that before for her. I thought Stevie sounded good and she seemed playful during some of the songs like Stand Back. She was really dancing to it and did a ton of spins. She also did her cute hula dance before Dreams.

Also, Lori was there! She sang on Edge of 17 and BATB.


Now for the bad news. There was a set change. No Sorcerer. No HAEWAFY. What the **** is going on?! :confused: She doesn't have a show today so it's not like she was in a total rush to get out of there. The show didn't seem to end early anyway. And then she did the meet and greets and it took her awhile to leave. Her set list was like a greatest hits list without those songs. I think it went Dreams, Rhiannon, Stand Back, and then GDW. I was not very happy about that. I really enjoy Sorcerer. :distress:

I will end on some more good news. A bunch of us were waiting for Stevie to get in the limo and leave. After waiting for awhile Stevie actually came out before she got in the limo and waved with both hands to everyone and had a big smile on her face. :blob1: It was awesome! It totally reminded me of the Red Rocks video where she does the same thing.

My journey ends with me driving home early this morning. Thanks to Tiff and Anita for hanging out with me. You guys made it more fun. :xoxo:

amber
08-01-2005, 12:54 PM
That's rad you guys got to see her leave and she waved to you! Thanks for the review.
Did they still have pink hoodies? ;)

AliceLover
08-01-2005, 12:57 PM
Glad you had a great time at the show. I think its pretty cool they were chanting her name for her to come back out for an encore. Too bad Reno Sucks LOL!

NO SORCERER OR HAEWAFY??? Thats like a 13 song set. Bullsh*t!

golden braid
08-01-2005, 12:57 PM
That's rad you guys got to see her leave and she waved to you! Thanks for the review.
Did they still have pink hoodies? ;)
Oh yeah. I got you one. :p

amber
08-01-2005, 12:58 PM
Oh yeah. I got you one. :p
:blob1: :blob2: :blob1: :blob2: :xoxo:

DEBORAH! DEBORAH! DEBORAH! :p

StevieNicksEO17
08-01-2005, 12:59 PM
That's really weird there was no Sorcerer or HAEWAFY... What the heck is going on? :confused:

But nevertheless, I'm glad you had a great time! :)

MacMan
08-01-2005, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the review.... Sorry to hear they dropped those two songs... especially Has Anyone....

I bet with Lori there... and the shorten set, they are prepping for Vegas and getting the timing down for The Colosseum.

AliceLover
08-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Thanks for the review.... Sorry to hear they dropped those two songs... especially Has Anyone....

I bet with Lori there... and the shorten set, they are prepping for Vegas and getting the timing down for The Colosseum.

I feel really bad for the people in reno who saw this show and weren't going to any others. IF that was me id be pissed!

no_spoken_word
08-01-2005, 02:09 PM
I wonder if she's dropping those songs to make room in the set for 'If Anyone Falls' in Vegas again?

ontheEdgeof17
08-01-2005, 03:17 PM
:eek: Shocker about the setlist changes. I would be a pretty sad camper. I guess we will see how the next few shows go.... :rolleyes:


Thanks for the review! Glad you made it on time for this one :thumbsup:

EnchantedSLN
08-01-2005, 05:04 PM
I was so bummed they skipped Sorcerer! I tried to get a setlist after the show to see if it was changed or if the songs were just crossed out due to some kind of time issue, but the guys onstage were busy. Hopefully both songs will be back for Albuquerque.

I liked the setup of the Events Center. It felt like a big empty airplane hangar, with just the floor and a single section of risers curving around. It looked like every seat in the house had a nice vantage point. I would definitely say it was a near sellout, too (the venue holds 7,000). Boring crowd though. The whole place sat down after the first song and pretty much stayed there until Edge of Seventeen. Except for the people who kept leaving to get drinks. And Deborah ;). You could tell it was mostly passersby who had just dropped in... it wasn't until she sang the chorus of dreams or actually got to the word "Rhiannon" that you started hearing people go "Ooh, I LOVE this song!"

Vocally she was right on. It's just a shame it was for a largely uninterested crowd. The Gold Dust Woman ending seemed a little longer last night; I'm not sure if it just felt that way, or if she drew it out another minute or two being that she cut two songs. Fall From Grace took me by surprise since it was not in its usual spot. It's really fun to watch Brett and Carlos jam with each other during this song and I love when Jana echoes Stevie's at the end. When she's not overpowering her or hitting slightly sharp notes, she does have a very pretty voice and complements Stevie well.

The band intros were cute. Because of the set change, Brett was not on his keyboard platform and he dashed to get back into position before Stevie got to him, thinking she hadn't realized he was on the floor. Stevie got a laugh out of it and told him he could stay put, she knew where he was, and then went over and "boxed" with him. She introduced Sharon as the Teacher Goddess who makes sure they learn all their parts (*whipcrack*) and gets upset when they aren't done right, and then turned to Sharon and added as a side note "You have to admit, you really do get mad!" and chuckled. Landslide was dedicated to the Reno audience for choosing to spend our evening with her instead of with someone else.

Finally Edge starts and people begin to stand. We weren't sure how the walk was going to work because there was a wide gap between the monitors and the stage, but Stevie leaned over and managed to reach us all anyway. I looked over to the girls at the end and Sharon, Lori (who had emerged sometime between Landslide and Egde) and Jana were cracking up over something for a good two minutes... everytime they'd look at each other they'd all start laughing again. After Edge someone came out and put the blue cloak and candelabra on the piano... the lights stayed down and for a moment there I almost thought Rock & Roll might be gone too. Thankfully not the case! Stevie came out and had some kind of exchange with Waddy, after which she shrugged her shoulders as if to say "Eh, who cares" and tossed her tambourine on the floor. She laughed and Waddy picked it up again and set it on Jimmy's drum platform, then she launched into her little Elvis dance. I also noticed she had a peacock feather in her hat tonight which I don't think was there before. Someone gave her a couple of them in Concord the other night, so, Peacock Feather Person, if you're out there, you'll be happy to know she used them.

Our lovely (ha) hotel happened to be across the street from the back parking lot of the venue, so we walked around after the show and noticed a small group of fans standing on the street waiting to see Stevie get in her limo. Security didn't mind as long as they stayed back, so we paused to watch as well. After awhile someone brought Sara and Sulamith out to the limo, and Stevie, guided by Marty, followed shortly after. Usually when I've seen her being escorted somewhere she is "in the zone" and doesn't really respond to fans, but she did turn and give us a hearty wave and blow some kisses to everyone before getting in. I took one picture of it and will post later if it's not too dark.

Nice hanging out with you again Deborah :wavey:

LiquidBlue5000
08-01-2005, 05:25 PM
Why the heck must she always always always do this on every single tour???? Like, the last few shows, she drops 1 or 2 songs.... it doesnt make any sense.... On the TISL tour, she dropped "Planets" and "Bombay".. on the Enchanted tour, she dropped "Stop Draggin"... on the SA tour, she dropped "Maybe Love" and "No Spoken Word"...

Stevie, would it kill you to perform two more songs for 3 or 4 more shows??? i mean, it's not as if you're trying to save your voice for another solo album that you will be working on right after the tour is over.. :rolleyes:

HejiraNYC
08-01-2005, 08:11 PM
Why the heck must she always always always do this on every single tour???? Like, the last few shows, she drops 1 or 2 songs.... it doesnt make any sense.... On the TISL tour, she dropped "Planets" and "Bombay".. on the Enchanted tour, she dropped "Stop Draggin"... on the SA tour, she dropped "Maybe Love" and "No Spoken Word"...

Stevie, would it kill you to perform two more songs for 3 or 4 more shows??? i mean, it's not as if you're trying to save your voice for another solo album that you will be working on right after the tour is over.. :rolleyes:


Well, maybe that's why they cut the price of the Vegas tickets in half- since you'll be getting only half of the setlist by then. :lol: :p

LiquidBlue5000
08-01-2005, 08:14 PM
Well, maybe that's why they cut the price of the Vegas tickets in half- since you'll be getting only half of the setlist by then. :lol: :p


they cut the price of the tickets??? that's news to me :shrug:

Stephanie
08-01-2005, 08:15 PM
this is so not acceptable! I am flying to albuquerque and I want the full set list for goodness sake! But this is my 5th show this leg, I would feel more ripped off if it was the only one I was going to.

Do they still have the tourbooks>?

LiquidBlue5000
08-01-2005, 08:17 PM
this is so not acceptable! I am flying to albuquerque and I want the full set list for goodness sake! But this is my 5th show this leg, I would feel more ripped off if it was the only one I was going to.

Do they still have the tourbooks>?


i'm gonna guess that they are all sold out by now, the way this tour has been planned :rolleyes: :p

Stephanie
08-01-2005, 08:18 PM
i'm gonna guess that they are all sold out by now, the way this tour has been planned :rolleyes: :p

That is probably right. They probably started with 50.

AliceLover
08-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Why the heck must she always always always do this on every single tour???? Like, the last few shows, she drops 1 or 2 songs.... it doesnt make any sense.... On the TISL tour, she dropped "Planets" and "Bombay".. on the Enchanted tour, she dropped "Stop Draggin"... on the SA tour, she dropped "Maybe Love" and "No Spoken Word"...

Stevie, would it kill you to perform two more songs for 3 or 4 more shows??? i mean, it's not as if you're trying to save your voice for another solo album that you will be working on right after the tour is over.. :rolleyes:

They also cut Outside the Rain from the TISL tour and No Spoken Word and How Still My Love on the Street Angel Tour.

LiquidBlue5000
08-01-2005, 08:23 PM
They also cut Outside the Rain from the TISL tour and No Spoken Word and How Still My Love on the Street Angel Tour.


hmmm.. didn't i say "No Spoken Word" in my original post??? yes... that was cut, so was "Docklands", and yes "Outside The Rain" was cut as well.. but i was refering more to her cutting songs during the very last shows of the tour..

HejiraNYC
08-01-2005, 08:25 PM
they cut the price of the tickets??? that's news to me :shrug:

Child, where ya been? :shrug: Go to TM.com and enter "Dreams" in the box for the special promotion. $79.95.

LiquidBlue5000
08-01-2005, 08:41 PM
Child, where ya been? :shrug: Go to TM.com and enter "Dreams" in the box for the special promotion. $79.95.


ok, do you think i have a case in requesting half a refund??

AliP
08-01-2005, 11:52 PM
I will start off with the good news. I didn't witness any drunken fights like I did last time and Stevie didn't cry. The crowd was kinda weird though. Most people were sitting even in the front row.



Great Review!! Where were your seats?? I didn't realize anyone from here was going, otherwise it would have been fun to chit chat! I didn't even realize that she didn't do Sorcerer or HAEWAFY until after the concert. I wonder if she dropped them because Reno was the third show in a row she did? Maybe she was tired

Or because she was punishing Reno for the last time FM was there and the fight broke out. :rolleyes:

I was at the very end of the front row. It was only me and three other ladies who stood the whole time. But you were right, the crowd was boring.

And yes, Reno is trashy!! ugh, I never want to go back to that place!

AliP
08-01-2005, 11:56 PM
Stevie came out and had some kind of exchange with Waddy, after which she shrugged her shoulders as if to say "Eh, who cares" and tossed her tambourine on the floor. She laughed and Waddy picked it up again and set it on Jimmy's drum platform, then she launched into her little Elvis dance. I also noticed she had a peacock feather in her hat tonight which I don't think was there before. Someone gave her a couple of them in Concord the other night, so, Peacock Feather Person, if you're out there, you'll be happy to know she used them.



I noticed that too!! I think I was standing next to you at the stage!

Johnny Stew
08-02-2005, 12:08 AM
I didn't even realize that she didn't do Sorcerer or HAEWAFY until after the concert. I wonder if she dropped them because Reno was the third show in a row she did? Maybe she was tiredDoes Reno have a curfew? That seems to result in occasional drops from the setlists, I've noticed.

golden braid
08-02-2005, 12:10 AM
Great Review!! Where were your seats?? I didn't realize anyone from here was going, otherwise it would have been fun to chit chat!

I was at the very end of the front row. It was only me and three other ladies who stood the whole time. But you were right, the crowd was boring.

I was at the very end of the second row so I think you must have been standing right in front of me. Where you in section 4? I stood the whole time too. :nod: And then I went up to the stage at Edge and was next to Tiff. Too bad we didn't meet.

Mokona
08-02-2005, 12:10 AM
Hmm...I was pushing hubby to cave so we could go to Las Vegas, but now I think I'll just leave it and be happy with the show in May plus my other two concerts. Maybe she's cutting songs because of that virus she has that makes her exhausted? :shrug: Either way, things could've been planned a bit better. Go out with a set in stone song list so everyone can hear the same. Of course she probably doesn't realize there are places like this where everyone compares notes. :p

Anyway, thanks for the review and glad you got to see her! It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next three shows and in the general future for her music career.

PS...Oh, and why the heck can't she come to my town?! She'd get a better reception for sure. She needs to check out other cities!

AliP
08-02-2005, 12:21 AM
I was at the very end of the second row so I think you must have been standing right in front of me. Where you in section 4? I stood the whole time too. :nod: And then I went up to the stage at Edge and was next to Tiff. Too bad we didn't meet.


Yes, I think I remember you! Were you wearing a pink shirt with a collar? (I think) maybe glasses? I just remember noticing that you (I think) were standing the entire time because you were the only one. lol. People there were dumb. I had a red shirt on and white capris.

Phoenix
08-02-2005, 12:48 AM
[QUOTE=EnchantedSLN] so, Peacock Feather Person, if you're out there, you'll be happy to know she used them.

Oh, how I wish that I could lay claim to that! :laugh: :laugh: I'm glad you had a great time! The Phoenix show is two days away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LiquidBlue5000
08-02-2005, 01:12 AM
Maybe she's cutting songs because of that virus she has that makes her exhausted? :shrug: Either way, things could've been planned a bit better. Go out with a set in stone song list so everyone can hear the same.


Please.. she already does this enough as it is...

Kelly
08-02-2005, 05:38 AM
I actually do not think these songs were dropped, this time, because Stevie is lazy, tired or doesnt care about the fans. The show has to change pretty majorly when Don, uh, huugge asset Stevie, comes to Phoenix for AHI. Lori will be singing on HSML and IAF in Vegas as well. She has such little rehearsal time for AHI due to the New Mexico show, I sort of understand why the set has to change slightly. Two songs are dropped so two more can be added in Phoenix. It takes a bit of time to get the timing and pacing right for her. However, Sorcerer is one of my favorite live songs and that should be in the Vegas set......I am thinking that adjustments are being made for the AHI show etc.
I doubt Has Anyone or Sor. will be back for the NM show. Just my 1 cent.

golden braid
08-02-2005, 10:25 AM
Yes, I think I remember you! Were you wearing a pink shirt with a collar? (I think) maybe glasses? I just remember noticing that you (I think) were standing the entire time because you were the only one. lol. People there were dumb. I had a red shirt on and white capris.
I did have glasses and I was wearing a green shirt.

DrummerDeanna
08-02-2005, 10:35 AM
Hmmm..well my sister and her best friend are going to the Albuquerque show tonight - I'll be interested to hear if she puts Sorcerer and HAEWAFY back in the set!

Mokona
08-02-2005, 10:49 AM
Please.. she already does this enough as it is... It's because the same songs are always in her set list. I doubt anyone would mind if she selected 10 or 11 rarely heard in concert songs and didn't do an overhaul in the middle of a tour by cutting or switching songs out. It's fine if she has a list that she doesn't veer away from - just bring some fresh new material in!

But as long as she's playing venues like Reno and some of the others we've heard about, she'll have to keep doing the same old songs. Her audience seems to barely recognize who's up there even when she's doing some of her greatest hits.

Rickypt
08-02-2005, 12:16 PM
13 songs is a really short setlist. Seems a bit unfair to shortchange fans in two cities to prepare for Phoenix. Maybe I'm not getting it, but I'd like a seasoned performer like Stevie and her excellent band should be able to figure everything out without the song dump. :shrug:

AliP
08-02-2005, 12:23 PM
I did have glasses and I was wearing a green shirt.


Ok, yes, it was green! I saw you and I'm glad you were standing up having a good time!

glitter_fades
08-02-2005, 02:19 PM
Two songs are dropped so two more can be added in Phoenix. It takes a bit of time to get the timing and pacing right for her. However, Sorcerer is one of my favorite live songs and that should be in the Vegas set......I am thinking that adjustments are being made for the AHI show etc.

NO! I will be so disappointed if she doesn't do Sorcerer at AHI. I love that song live. I wanted to see the skeleton picture! Whaaaaaa!
I hope you're wrong about it being dropped for AHI. :distress: I've got a bad feeling you're right. :distress: Sniff.

:mad:

jkmaletic
08-02-2005, 02:40 PM
skeleton picture...LOL! It's not any big deal. You're going to AHI for Christ's sake!! Lucky dawg!! Cheer up! :woohoo:

~Jamie