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DavidMn
06-22-2005, 01:35 PM
I figure alot of people are traveling to see this show from out of state, or maybe out of country. I figure this is the holy grail for most Stevie fans as far as a place to see her live. I think I'm going to go, it'd be about a day and a half drive from Minnesota, but I think It's worth it. Who else is traveling to this concert? I'd love to meet some people there :nod:

LiquidBlue5000
06-22-2005, 01:44 PM
I figure alot of people are traveling to see this show from out of state, or maybe out of country. I figure this is the holy grail for most Stevie fans as far as a place to see her live. I think I'm going to go, it'd be about a day and a half drive from Minnesota, but I think It's worth it. Who else is traveling to this concert? I'd love to meet some people there :nod:

If the Red Rocks concert from '86 was a real show, i would probably want to hop onto a plane and head out to Colorado this year just for the sake of nostalgia...

but since nothing about that show that was released was real (not the vocals, not the closeups, not the music), i don't look at Red Rocks as much of a special place or special show anymore...

i have the uncut/unedited version of the Red Rocks concert from '86... it aint pretty... :distress:

Rickypt
06-22-2005, 01:53 PM
Surely that crazy thing with the dove was real ?!?

sparky
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
If the Red Rocks concert from '86 was a real show, i would probably want to hop onto a plane and head out to Colorado this year just for the sake of nostalgia...

but since nothing about that show that was released was real (not the vocals, not the closeups, not the music), i don't look at Red Rocks as much of a special place or special show anymore...

i have the uncut/unedited version of the Red Rocks concert from '86... it aint pretty... :distress:

I would love to see the uncut version. Is it downloadable anywhere ?

I worked with a woman who was a camera operator on the shoot and she said it was insane.
How is the quality ???

DavidMn
06-22-2005, 01:56 PM
If the Red Rocks concert from '86 was a real show, i would probably want to hop onto a plane and head out to Colorado this year just for the sake of nostalgia...

but since nothing about that show that was released was real (not the vocals, not the closeups, not the music), i don't look at Red Rocks as much of a special place or special show anymore...

i have the uncut/unedited version of the Red Rocks concert from '86... it aint pretty... :distress:
Oh really, I didnt know that. I'm sure the uncut version isnt very good. SHe wasnt well then. :distress: But I'm still going I think

LiquidBlue5000
06-22-2005, 02:07 PM
Surely that crazy thing with the dove was real ?!?

well yeah, that part was real.. also the "well well, you can be standing in it.. well, you can be standin' in iiiiit" part at the end of "stand back" was real... basically anything that looked and sounded cracked-out was real :nod: :lol:

Rickypt
06-22-2005, 02:17 PM
basically anything that looked and sounded cracked-out was real :nod: :lol:

:lol: :lol:

So I guess that weird running in place after I Need To Know was real also. :]

skcin
06-22-2005, 02:35 PM
I would love to see the uncut version. Is it downloadable anywhere ?

I worked with a woman who was a camera operator on the shoot and she said it was insane.
How is the quality ???

There's no video that I'm aware of, just the hideous audio.

sparky
06-22-2005, 02:38 PM
There's no video that I'm aware of, just the hideous audio.

There has GOT to be a video somewhere. Just not ever snagged by one of us.
I suspect the audio must be comparable to "Croaks and Staggers" which is almost unlistenable.

STEVEHEDRICK
06-22-2005, 02:48 PM
I figure alot of people are traveling to see this show from out of state, or maybe out of country. I figure this is the holy grail for most Stevie fans as far as a place to see her live. I think I'm going to go, it'd be about a day and a half drive from Minnesota, but I think It's worth it. Who else is traveling to this concert? I'd love to meet some people there :nod:
red rocks will be amazing she is in fine form right now! where are you sittin?

LiquidBlue5000
06-22-2005, 02:53 PM
There has GOT to be a video somewhere. Just not ever snagged by one of us.
I suspect the audio must be comparable to "Croaks and Staggers" which is almost unlistenable.

it's even worse than "cloaks and daggers".. if you could believe that

GarboSpeaks!
06-22-2005, 03:14 PM
I'm going and I am as excited as they come. I am leaving from the San Francisco area. Myself, Tiff and another friend of mine from Stockton Ca. and then there is a sweet girl we met in Vegas, that is driving to Ca. from Washington I think, then her and the Stockton friend are driving to Colorado. Myself & Tiff are flying. (Am I stealing thunder Tiff????? :xoxo: )

I have to say ever since I thought maybe I wanna go (no thanks to the peer pressure of Tiff and my Stockton pal...lmao) I watched the 86 Red Rocks special. I hadn't in some time. OMG, I mean I still love it, cause it's nostalgic for me, but being older now, I just see SO much clearer, Stevie's state of being. Yikes. Still, the thought of that gorgeous surrounding, and being somewhere that held signifigance...this will be one hell of a show. I don't think anything will be different, but the setting (IMO) reminds Stevie if AZ, so I think there is sort of a spiritual comfort for her. I've never been there, but the pics of the place alone give me goose-bumps. It just looks SO gorgeous, and such a setting to see a concert. I am VERY excited. :blob2:

STEVEHEDRICK
06-22-2005, 03:20 PM
where are you all sitting?

GarboSpeaks!
06-22-2005, 03:41 PM
We dunno. Haven't got tix yet. Is that brave or what? lol Am negotiating w/ someone for like 23 row. of front section.

STEVEHEDRICK
06-22-2005, 03:51 PM
check out ebay I got 5th row for 299.00 thats a steal!

sparky
06-22-2005, 04:00 PM
it's even worse than "cloaks and daggers".. if you could believe that

:shocked: :eek:

How is that possible ?

SapphireSister
06-22-2005, 04:06 PM
If the Red Rocks concert from '86 was a real show, i would probably want to hop onto a plane and head out to Colorado this year just for the sake of nostalgia...

but since nothing about that show that was released was real (not the vocals, not the closeups, not the music), i don't look at Red Rocks as much of a special place or special show anymore...



The cocaine she was on was real....

SapphireSister
06-22-2005, 04:08 PM
well yeah, that part was real.. also the "well well, you can be standing in it.. well, you can be standin' in iiiiit" part at the end of "stand back" was real... basically anything that looked and sounded cracked-out was real :nod: :lol:

Ahhhhhhh that line if my favorite part of the whole show!!!
:] :]

dissention
06-22-2005, 04:12 PM
:shocked: :eek:

How is that possible ?

It's possible, dear. She sounds like a man who just gargled with broken glass (and quickly polished it off with some Southern Comfort) before trying to record an audition tape for Night of A Thousand Stevie's.

There are two uncut versions out there. The first one is the one that everyone and their brother has and it's unlistenable. You can hardly hear her. The second one is an "upgraded" version that was just fixed up by elminating some of the audience noise and making her vocals louder; it's very listenable when compared to the other one and Edge is ****ing hysterical. She forgets the lyrics and stops singing for what seems like eons. 99% of what you hear on that video/DVD was re-recorded in the studio, just like the Welcome To My World radio show. She sounds like a bloody chipmunk on the released version.

estranged4life
06-22-2005, 04:18 PM
There's no video that I'm aware of, just the hideous audio.

there's a few professionally recorded tracks from that show available on one of those master reels that were on eBay awhile back: "I Need To Know" & "No Spoken Word"

princessblair
06-22-2005, 04:31 PM
I really, really, really want to go, but I should probably pay rent instead :( I take some solace in the fact that I have second row, dead center tickets for Minneapolis instead. Hopefully that will be a fantastic show and I'll forget all about Red Rocks...

wheart
06-22-2005, 04:41 PM
it's even worse than "cloaks and daggers".. if you could believe that

That is hard to believe...since C & D is God awful! I always wondered why they invested the time and $ in doing a video during the RAL tour, since Stevie was her most "cracked out". It was probably a decision that was made long before she even hit the road. Even though much of it is fake, I still love the Red Rocks show, especially her Edge meet and greet, which is definitely real.

Mageboy25
06-22-2005, 04:48 PM
I would love to see the uncut version. Is it downloadable anywhere ?

I worked with a woman who was a camera operator on the shoot and she said it was insane.
How is the quality ???

Oh god please tell us more!!!! I love 1st hand stories of Stevie being wasted.

SapphireSister
06-22-2005, 05:00 PM
Ha ha I remember when I first got into Stevie and bought the Red Rocks DVD I watched it over and over and was so in love with it. Then a few months later I found out the whole cocaine thing and that most of it wasn't even real and I was crushed!!

LiquidBlue5000
06-22-2005, 08:23 PM
there's a few professionally recorded tracks from that show available on one of those master reels that were on eBay awhile back: "I Need To Know" & "No Spoken Word"

hmmm.. do u have?? i would love to hear them

David
06-22-2005, 08:31 PM
hmmm.. do u have?? i would love to hear themThey sound great to me. But everything on the '86 tour sounds great to me, bearing in mind that great doesn't necessarily mean technically impeccable or polished.

But "No Spoken Word" & "I Need to Know" from the retakes sure don't sound as if drugs had ruined the day to me. I never thought coke was much of an apparent problem for Stevie on the '86 tour, anyway. I just thought she was drinking too much & wound up looked bloated (alcohol gives some people a bloated countenance & a puffy demeanor).

I think Red Rocks (the one that was filmed, not the first one) was just an ordinary RAL show, anyway. I would have preferred they film & release one of the other awesome performances -- MSG or Los Angeles or even Pacific Amphitheatre with her feather headdress. Landover in early August could have been filmed, too.

dissention
06-22-2005, 08:34 PM
I think Red Rocks (the one that was filmed, not the first one) was just an ordinary RAL show, anyway. I would have preferred they film & release one of the other awesome performances -- MSG or Los Angeles or even Pacific Amphitheatre with her feather headdress. Landover in early August could have been filmed, too.

The Alpine Valley show from, I believe, May is an awesome show, too. She got wilder as the show progressed and just exploded by the time Edge of Seventeen and Rhiannon rolled around.