Guilty Pleasures

[Miss Vicky]

I'm pretty new here so I don't know if this thread's been done before, but if it has I'm doing it again. What are, in terms of entertainment, are your guilty pleasures?

Here are mine:

Music -
Justin Timberlake
J. Lo
Disco music
80's One Hit Wonders
Enrique Iglesias
Kevin "Bloody" Wilson (australian comedian)
Boy George
Crash Test Dummies
Extreme

Movies -
Roman period epics - The Robe, Demetrius and the Gladiators, The Silver Chalice, etc.
Showgirls
Austin Powers: Goldmember (any movie where Britney Spears' head blows up is okay by me.)
Saturday Night Special (w/ Billy Burnette)
Joe's Apartment (singing, dancing cockroaches!)
Caligula (this doesn't count as a Roman epic because it's basically porn, and really bad porn at that)
Caveman (gotta love a prehistoric Ringo!)
Samson and Delilah

Television -
Queer as Folk (what can I say, Hal Sparks and Gale Harold are hot!)
Pimp My Ride
The Surreal Life
Room Raiders

Books -
Cheesy period romance novels by people like Nora Roberts and Judith McNaught

[dissention]

Caligula (this doesn't count as a Roman epic because it's basically porn, and really bad porn at that)

I? Love Caligula. A career low for all involved, but utterly fascinating. You've seen the uncut version, right? :laugh:

For movies, let's see...

Tulse Luper Suitcase - Unwatchable, but you can't take your eyes off of it.
Crash - My dear Holly, why?
Showgirls - Gina Gershon. Enough said.
Big Business - Lily Tomlin and Bette Midler with bad special effects, you can't beat it.
Napoleon and Samantha - Love it to pieces.
The Hunger - Bowie, Sarandon, AND Deneuve.
Calendar Girls - Cracks me up. And I like Helen Mirren's boobies.
In the Gloaming - Makes me all verklempt every time, even though it's so manipulative.
The Hotel New Hampshire - No plot, but who cares.

[Miss Vicky]

I? Love Caligula. A career low for all involved, but utterly fascinating. You've seen the uncut version, right? :laugh:


Yes, I have the uncut version on DVD. Probably wouldn't have bought it if I had realized at the time that it was put out by Penthouse Magazine. Hind sight is always 20/20. Oh well.
It's one of those movies I watch with my bedroom door locked and the volume set on low so nobody else can hear it or catch me watching it. Showgirls is another one.

'Tis a wonder that Caligula never won any Oscars... with scenes like Caligula murdering what's-his-face and having the man's penis cut off and fed to the dogs, then those two freaky girls urinate on the corpse... :laugh:

[amber]

Um, The Hunger shouldn't be a guilty pleasure, everyone likes it! :)
This isn't media related, but "eating chips while reading in bed" :lol:
media? I don't know how you guys come up with answers so fast.
Most of my music is a guilty pleasure :laugh: (Can you say, Juice Newton?)
movies, all I can think of are when I like movies that are obviously B movies. But there's a lot. The best, though, is Bordello of Blood. I used to think I had really cheesy tastes all around, until I started coming here... :lol:
Oh, I feel guilty when I sing and groove around to El D'Barge's "Rhythm of the Night" - my friend wanted me to dl it one night, and since then, "i've grown accustomed to it's face" :laugh:
Most of my worst habits are probably related to what i watch on TV. If i had cable, i'd be addicted to Real World and Road Rules as i was before. And, currently, America's Next Top Model is probably my most shameful viewing.

[dissention]

Um, The Hunger shouldn't be a guilty pleasure, everyone likes it! :)

Eh, it's a piece of bloody ****. Truly awful, IMO. I still love it, though. :laugh:

[amber]

Eh, it's a piece of bloody ****. Truly awful, IMO. I still love it, though. :laugh:
really? Hmmm, i've seen about a million worse movies. well, or heard of them. I thought it was ok. Maybe the star power and weird vibe made it seem better to me than it was? Or maybe you are wrong? :lol: JK. I've only seen it once.

[Miss Vicky]

Um, The Hunger shouldn't be a guilty pleasure, everyone likes it! :)


Never seen it. What's it about?

[dissention]

Never seen it. What's it about?

Bowie and Deneuve are vampires, but he's aging rapidly and Denueve gets the hots for Sarandon, a doctor who specializes in aging, and wants to replace Bowie with her when he dies. It's fabulous but wretched all the same. It's worth seeing just for the lengthy lesbian sex scene between Sarandon and Deneuve, who are both amazingly gorgeous. ;)

The TV show was the pits, though.

[strandinthewind]

I thought The Hunger was such an art film for that time period - or at least it tried to be. Plus, CD was the hottest thing I have ever senn in my life in that "Are you flirting with me Mrs. Blaylock?" "Not that I am aware of Miriam" - SSHHHEEEBUS

[dissention]

I thought The Hunger was such an art film for that time period - or at least it tried to be.

Which is what made it so bad, IMO. They tried to fuse commercialism with artistry and it ended up a mutt. It didn't help that the studio interfered so much and forced that ending upon us.

Schrader tried to do the same thing with Cat People, but he was even less successful than Tony Scott was.

Plus, CD was the hottest thing I have ever senn in my life in that "Are you flirting with me Mrs. Blaylock?" "Not that I am aware of Miriam" - SSHHHEEEBUS

She was hot, but I thought Sarandon was equally hot. That scene with the two of them...heart palpitations. :nod:

[strandinthewind]

CAT PEOPLE

YYYYIIIPPPPPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But - I agree, though I like The Hunger, it is pretty bad :nod:

[dissention]

CAT PEOPLE

YYYYIIIPPPPPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But - I agree, though I like The Hunger, it is pretty bad :nod:

Cat People is horrific. :laugh: One of the worst movies ever made. What they were thinking when they turned it into a porn flick is beyond me.

[Miss Vicky]

CAT PEOPLE

YYYYIIIPPPPPEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But - I agree, though I like The Hunger, it is pretty bad :nod:

But then, that's the essence of a guilty pleasure. :)

[amber]

Cat People is horrific. :laugh: One of the worst movies ever made. What they were thinking when they turned it into a porn flick is beyond me.
Are you guys talking about the old cat people with Simone Simon, or the new one with Nastassia Kinski?

[strandinthewind]

But then, that's the essence of a guilty pleasure. :)

OH YEA!!!!!!!!!!!! that is what makes life special :laugh: :nod: :laugh:

[dissention]

Are you guys talking about the old cat people with Simone Simon, or the new one with Nastassia Kinski?

Kinski. With awful short brown hair. :distress:

[strandinthewind]

Kinski. With awful short brown hair. :distress:

one of the worst flics EVER :nod:

[dissention]

one of the worst flics EVER :nod:

Right up there with Ishtar. :laugh: And this is coming from a ****ing fanatic when it comes to anything Elaine May touches.

[strandinthewind]

Right up there with Ishtar. :laugh: And this is coming from a ****ing fanatic when it comes to anything Elaine May touches.

LORD ISHTAR!!!!

I actually saw it in the theater :eek: and stayed for the ending :eek:

[dissention]

LORD ISHTAR!!!!

I actually saw it in the theater :eek: and stayed for the ending :eek:

:eek:

I prefer Shanghair Surprise. :lol:

Elaine May is one of my idols and I just knew deep down that it couldn't be anything like people were saying it was. And then I saw it. I cried hard. Thank the stars she rebounded amazingly, I was scared for awhile. :o

[strandinthewind]

:eek:

I prefer Shanghair Surprise. :lol:

Elaine May is one of my idols and I just knew deep down that it couldn't be anything like people were saying it was. And then I saw it. I cried hard. Thank the stars she rebounded amazingly, I was scared for awhile. :o


YIPES - wasn't Jane Weidlen in that one?

[dissention]

YIPES - wasn't Jane Weidlen in that one?

I don't think so, but I only saw it once. :laugh: That was enough!

She was in Clue: The Movie, one of my favorites. :cool:

[strandinthewind]

I don't think so, but I only saw it once. :laugh: That was enough!

She was in Clue: The Movie, one of my favorites. :cool:

and she was HYSTERICAL in it - tap tap sing sing - shot dead :laugh:

[amber]

LORD ISHTAR!!!!

I actually saw it in the theater :eek: and stayed for the ending :eek:
Ok, I've only seen the Simone Simon catpeople. But - Ishtar is sooooo not as bad as a lot of other movies, Dammit!!!! Do you really think it is the worst movie ever, considering all the crap that has come out since? C'mon, you can't say it's worse than...uh....Diabolique? JK...I think most Adam Sandler movies are worse than Ishtar, and there are many more that i haven't seen or can't think of right now that are worse.

[strandinthewind]

Ok, I've only seen the Simone Simon catpeople. But - Ishtar is sooooo not as bad as a lot of other movies, Dammit!!!! Do you really think it is the worst movie ever, considering all the crap that has come out since? C'mon, you can't say it's worse than...uh....Diabolique? JK...I think most Adam Sandler movies are worse than Ishtar, and there are many more that i haven't seen or can't think of right now that are worse.

Those are all soooooo bad - La Stone in a mini that her braids showed through :eek:

And - do I have to bring up Sliver :eek:

[dissention]

Ok, I've only seen the Simone Simon catpeople. But - Ishtar is sooooo not as bad as a lot of other movies, Dammit!!!! Do you really think it is the worst movie ever, considering all the crap that has come out since? C'mon, you can't say it's worse than...uh....Diabolique? JK...I think most Adam Sandler movies are worse than Ishtar, and there are many more that i haven't seen or can't think of right now that are worse.

Knowing what Elaine May is capable of, Ishtar is a flaming piece of rotten offle. She can do no wrong in my eyes, but that movie is a smelly stain on her resume. :nod:

[amber]

Those are all soooooo bad - La Stone in a mini that her braids showed through :eek:

And - do I have to bring up Sliver :eek:
No, indeed, you do not have to tell me about the badness of Sliver. :laugh:

[amber]

Knowing what Elaine May is capable of, Ishtar is a flaming piece of rotten offle. She can do no wrong in my eyes, but that movie is a smelly stain on her resume. :nod:
So are you saying, more, that compared to her own works it is putrid, but that it may be better than a lot of other things, anyway? 'Cause i think it is. But it always struck me that La Isabelle should not be in comedies, either way. :laugh: She's just too seriously emotional. :) I feel her pain, as a Cancer, too. :rolleyes: although I was voted "wild and witty" for Highschool, I wasn't very good at comedies in my drama class...sometimes, but not usually. Apropos of nothing. :wavey: I don't think Meryl is very good at comedies, either.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Big Business - Lily Tomlin and Bette Midler with bad special effects, you can't beat it.

"I got my Tuesday panties on but I guess you know that too..." :laugh:

I can't tell you how many times I made my mom rent that movie when I was little

[amber]

"I got my Tuesday panties on but I guess you know that too..." :laugh:

I can't tell you how many times I made my mom rent that movie when I was little
:lol: :laugh: - that movie is good. It also reminds me that perhaps "The Money Pit" is a guilty pleasure, I love that movie. Oh, and two other guilty pleasure Shelley Long movies - Irreconcilable Differences, and...the one with Corben Bernsen where she dies, and can see him live his life? forgot the name. :)

[strandinthewind]

"I got my Tuesday panties on but I guess you know that too..." :laugh:

I can't tell you how many times I made my mom rent that movie when I was little

IT IS ONE OF MY FAV.'S EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When one of your opening scenes is Bette Midler milking a cow while singing a yodelling song - well, it just does not get much better than that :laugh:

[GardenStateGirlie]

IT IS ONE OF MY FAV.'S EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When one of your opening scenes is Bette Midler milking a cow while singing a yodelling song - well, it just does not get much better than that :laugh:

It's absolutely hysterical--I love Bette and Lily together...total riot.

[amber]

Kinski. With awful short brown hair.
I have a pic of that in my "Great Actresses" book (gaw, i'm a dork! an actress dork! :laugh: It's a really good book, though, it has pics of everyone, even from foreign countries, throughout film time, I highly recommend it. I got it when i was 15, I think.) And I didn't think she looked too bad. :shrug: again, though, i've never seen the whole movie. And the original irritated me, in that way that "Bewitched" irritated me. Cause it's a "Big Secret", and she couldn't possibly tell anyone, even though her power is really cool. Because none of the "normal population" (Whatev.!) could possibly understand! :rolleyes:
Geez, how many times did i wish i could turn into a cat when i was young? or even now? :lol: :lol:
Gaw, if someone i was dating suddenly told me they could turn into a cat, I'd be frickin' STOKED!!!! :lol:
Here's the pic I have of Miss Kinski, from that movie: Looks lovely, here. And I have to say, I really enjoyed "Hotel New Hampshire", the book, and the movie, and the affair between Jodi and Nastassia. I, personally, think she is exceptionally beautiful. :D Hey, there has to be a reason why Roman Polanski sought her out, right? :lol: http://tinypic.com/1pxr2x
Here's some others of Kinski, just for "fairdom"
http://tinypic.com/1pxs2g

[estranged4life]

my 'guilty pleasure' is adding more melodic metal to my music collection:

Nightwish-"Once" (Their best album yet!!!)
Jon Oliva's Pain-"'Tage Mahal"
Chris Caffery-"Faces/God Damn War"
Savatage-"The Wake of Magellan"
Steve Vai-"The 7th Song-Enchanted Guitar Melodies Archives Vol.1"
Steve Vai-"The Ultra Zone"

[GretaRhiannon]

Spice Girls!!!!!!

[Jessica Leigh]

1960s Disney movies.... i freakin' love them.... Annette Funicello and Hayley Mills movies especially... i loooooove them!

[strandinthewind]

1960s Disney movies.... i freakin' love them.... Annette Funicello and Hayley Mills movies especially... i loooooove them!

Me toooooo

I LOVED The Parent Trap and The Trouble with Angels - the latter with the incomparable Rosalid Russell as the Mother Superior introducing withh glee and pride the sisters and the subjects they taught until she gets to the rather flighty looking sister so and so - who she intriduces with obvious disapproval and in a deadpan only Rosilnd Russell could muster - "this is Sister so so and so - ART" :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

I LVOE HER AND THAT FILM :cool:

[irishgrl]

movies:
flesh gordon

music:
vanilla ice: ice ice baby (the song)
mc hammer: cant touch this (the song)
dorky I know :)

books:
????

my life is sadly devoid of guilty pleasures which could mean one of two things:
either I dont feel guilty, OR I dont have many pleasures :eek:

maybe you guys can give me ideas?

[dissention]

and she was HYSTERICAL in it - tap tap sing sing - shot dead :laugh:

I have a huge thing for Lesley Ann Warren, so it's only natural that I love Clue. That movie never fails to make me laugh my ass off. :nod:

[dissention]

So are you saying, more, that compared to her own works it is putrid, but that it may be better than a lot of other things, anyway? 'Cause i think it is. But it always struck me that La Isabelle should not be in comedies, either way. :laugh: She's just too seriously emotional. :) I feel her pain, as a Cancer, too. :rolleyes: although I was voted "wild and witty" for Highschool, I wasn't very good at comedies in my drama class...sometimes, but not usually. Apropos of nothing. :wavey: I don't think Meryl is very good at comedies, either.

Well, I'd rate Ishtar higher than Adam Sandler movies, you couldn't get me to watch one of his if you promised me a night of wild sex with one of my crushes. He's so putrid and untalented that I want to barf.

I like Meryl in comedies, though. She Devil, Death Becomes Her, Adaptation, etc. I like her in them. :thumbsup:

[dissention]

IT IS ONE OF MY FAV.'S EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When one of your opening scenes is Bette Midler milking a cow while singing a yodelling song - well, it just does not get much better than that :laugh:

LITTLE OLD LADY HOO! :thumbsup:

Bette is so fabulous that it can't be put into words.

[dissention]

And I have to say, I really enjoyed "Hotel New Hampshire", the book, and the movie, and the affair between Jodi and Nastassia.

Both are favorites of mine, but the book is better. The movie is a ****ing mess. It's so clumsy and ill thought out. By the halfway mark, almost everyone dies and the remaing few move into a hotel with socialist terrorists. :laugh: It happens so clumsily in the film that it's unbelievable. Irving books don't translate well to the screen, IMO. He's too dark and twisted to really capture. Hotel New Hampshire has rape, incest, suicide, lesbianism, terrorists and the like, yet the movie doesn't know what to do with any of it. :laugh:

She was great as Suzie the Bear, though. :thumbsup:

[GODDESS6]

I have a huge thing for Lesley Ann Warren, so it's only natural that I love Clue. That movie never fails to make me laugh my ass off. :nod:
omg!!!!!!!!!! i love her too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

[dissention]

omg!!!!!!!!!! i love her too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

She's bloody fabulous. I'll even see crappy movies if she's in them. I can't believe she didn't get the Oscar for Victor/Victoria. She's my favorite Cinderella, too. :D

[Serrart]

Comedies with Toto'
Comedies with Louis De Funes
All the movies with Clifton Webb :thumbsup:
California Suite
Wuxia genre
The Hong Kong action films
S.O.B.
Soapdish


Romy

[dissention]

That's crazy, because Clue was on TV a couple of weeks ago, and my mom was trying to convince me Scarlet was Susan Sarandon. And I kept saying, "Mom, no, Susan's too old." :laugh: So I IMDB'D it and I was right. Anyway, the first person I thought of was you.

:laugh: I'm flattered.

I love Susan, but damn, I love Lesley Ann Warren. The whole cast in Clue is hysterical, they hit the jackpot with that one. I wish they'd come out with a special edition DVD with a commentary and ****.

TV-
That's So Raven :eek: (shut up, Riss)

OH SNAP!













Me, too.

[irishgrl]

GODZILLA MOVIES!!!! :nod:

[dissention]

I'm trying to think of what I'm actually guilty of and whether or not to admit to the first one. Isn't Fleetwood Mac a bit of a guilty pleasure? Well Christine is but then it's not so much of a pleasure as it is a rush to skip the song.

Stevie certainly is a guilty pleasure, but that would mean that she's somehow a pleasure and we can't have that.

[HomerMcvie]

Stevie certainly is a guilty pleasure, but that would mean that she's somehow a pleasure and we can't have that.
:lol: I USED to love her. You know, back when she could hit more than five notes.....
Face the facts, folks. Love her or not, Christine is the ONLY one who can still sing.

[dissention]

:lol: I USED to love her. You know, back when she could hit more than five notes.....
Face the facts, folks. Love her or not, Christine is the ONLY one who can still sing.

I did, too, darling. But she hasn't been able to hit two notes in years and she subjected us to Say You Will and Illume. Tough tacos, but that's life.

[Janet]

Me toooooo

I LOVED The Parent Trap and The Trouble with Angels - the latter with the incomparable Rosalid Russell as the Mother Superior introducing withh glee and pride the sisters and the subjects they taught until she gets to the rather flighty looking sister so and so - who she intriduces with obvious disapproval and in a deadpan only Rosilnd Russell could muster - "this is Sister so so and so - ART" :rolleyes: :laugh: :laugh:

I LVOE HER AND THAT FILM :cool:

I haven't seen that movie in ages, that is a great movie! Can you buy that???? Oh my God, what a good movie.

[Janet]

TV: X Files-can you say obsessed?
Real World
Anything on MTV and VH1. I can put those channels on and watch all of those horrible shows. I will NOT watch like Room Raiders or Do You Wanna Come In...those are a bit too horrid but like Newlyweds and Sweet 16...I love it all.

MUSIC: I love 80's music very much. Anything with sythesizers are awesome to me. I just downloaded like Nikita from Elton John and Radio Ga Ga from Queen and songs like that. What people consider the worst from an artist, I consider the best.

ABBA...they were reunited last night btw. All four showed up for the Swedish Premiere of the play Mamma Mia.

Someone else mentioned the Spice Girls. I really like a couple of their songs.

Julie Andrews movies...Mary Poppins, Sound of Music, Victor Victoria...I could watch all of them over and over.

Fashion shows..magazines...I eat it up.

Starbucks. I know, it's expensive and totally worthless but I have to go every single day. I spend $5 every day. I could buy a car with what I bought in coffee.

[ontheEdgeof17]

those are a bit too horrid but like Newlyweds and Sweet 16...


I watch Sweet 16, too. What spoiled brats those kids are. They make me sick to my stomach. Paying 1,000s of $ for a birthday party is ridiculous. :rolleyes: And those gifts their parents give them? Outlandish. I'm disgusted...but I still watch. :laugh:

[Serrart]

I did, too, darling. But she hasn't been able to hit two notes in years and she subjected us to Say You Will and Illume. Tough tacos, but that's life.

She can subject me to all the Illumes she wants and Say You Will is nice for me... de gustibus. :)

Romy

[dissention]

She can subject me to all the Illumes she wants and Say You Will is nice for me... de gustibus. :)

Romy

More power to ya because you obviously have a stronger stomach than I. :woohoo:

[Serrart]

More power to ya because you obviously have a stronger stomach than I. :woohoo:

I'd say more curiosity, but that's subjective too. ;)

Romy

[dissention]

I'd say more curiosity, but that's subjective too. ;)

Romy

I'd say lack of taste, but that's even more subjective. ;) :laugh: j/k

[Serrart]

I'd say lack of taste, but that's even more subjective. ;) :laugh: j/k

I rewind to a strategic, peaceful and supersubjective de gustibus. :angel:

Romy

[David]

Isn't Fleetwood Mac a bit of a guilty pleasure? Well Christine is but then it's not so much of a pleasure as it is a rush to skip the song.You probably think Christine is just empty pop, gooey & bland.

Little do you realize that she is actually one of the most corrosive, nihilistic punk-rock visionaries of all time, erupting like a colon filled with hydrogen sulfide with the ugliness & moral degradation that suffuse all cosmic visions of Hell.

[Miss Vicky]

:lol: I USED to love her. You know, back when she could hit more than five notes.....
Face the facts, folks. Love her or not, Christine is the ONLY one who can still sing.

I have to agree with your first statement whole-heartedly. I became interested in Fleetwood Mac because of Stevie, but now she sounds like the illegitmate child of Elmer Fudd. (Sorry Stevie fans, but it's true. :sorry: )

As for Christine, eh, she can sing okay but her songs are like lullabies to me... they make me want to fall asleep. :rolleyes:

Besides that, I'm not exactly a fan of estrogen-laden music. :eek:

[dissention]

I have to agree with your first statement whole-heartedly. I became interested in Fleetwood Mac because of Stevie, but now she sounds like the illegitmate child of Elmer Fudd. (Sorry Stevie fans, but it's true. :sorry: )

:lol::lol::lol:

That's certainly one way to put it. ;)

[macmar71]

My movie ones:
The Scream Triology
Flash Gordon
Pink Flamingos
Lust In The Dust
Coming To America
House Party 3
Roller Boogie
Xanadu

My TV shows:
Surreal Life
Alot of VH1 programs


My Music ones: Abba
Clannad
All About Eve
Usher
Black Eye Peas
Enya


My Books:
Romance novels

[Serrart]

You probably think Christine is just empty pop, gooey & bland.

Little do you realize that she is actually one of the most corrosive, nihilistic punk-rock visionaries of all time, erupting like a colon filled with hydrogen sulfide with the ugliness & moral degradation that suffuse all cosmic visions of Hell.

It's only me or your messages visually suddenly blow up in proportions? Feeling a bit Brechtian David? By the way I agree on this too (even if without the apocalyptic tone). She's a master in irony and substance under a soft listening appearance, IMO. :thumbsup:

Romy

[HomerMcvie]

You probably think Christine is just empty pop, gooey & bland.

Little do you realize that she is actually one of the most corrosive, nihilistic punk-rock visionaries of all time, erupting like a colon filled with hydrogen sulfide with the ugliness & moral degradation that suffuse all cosmic visions of Hell.
David, why do you mock me so? :woohoo:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

:lol: I USED to love her. You know, back when she could hit more than five notes.....
Face the facts, folks. Love her or not, Christine is the ONLY one who can still sing.

I still like Stevie, but her range is just not what it used to be. Lindsey has also lost most of his range. And Christine (the oldest of the 3) sounds almost the exact same as she did 30+ years ago (and looks awsome too!).

[Brwn_eyes0511]

It's only me or your messages visually suddenly blow up in proportions? Feeling a bit Brechtian David? By the way I agree on this too (even if without the apocalyptic tone). She's a master in irony and substance under a soft listening appearance, IMO. :thumbsup:

Romy

Very well put!

[Miss Vicky]

You mean a sleep-inducing experience?


Lullabies, dear, lullabies. I'm with you all the way. :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

I still like Stevie, but her range is just not what it used to be. Lindsey has also lost most of his range. And Christine (the oldest of the 3) sounds almost the exact same as she did 30+ years ago (and looks awsome too!).
Preach it sister(?)! It truly IS amazing, that Christine sounds BETTER now than she did 30 years ago. I think some people are naturally gifted singers, and, some just give it their best shot(and do okay, until they age, and the hormones crap out on them).
I love Stevie's older stuff, but I can't stand to listen to her bleat now.....

[Miss Vicky]

Lindsey has also lost most of his range.

You speak of this as if it's a bad thing. Considering Lindsey's voice used to go so high that at times he sounded either like or woman or like someone who'd just inhaled helium (and I'm not just talking about the times he'd use studio tricks to intentionally make it sound that way), I'm quite glad that his voice has dropped considerably. He has a much more manly sound to his voice now that is just so damn sexy. :] IMO, his loss of range equates to an improved singing voice. :nod:

[ontheEdgeof17]

IMO, his loss of range equates to an improved singing voice. :nod:


Oh yes....Big Love sounds sooooooo good these days. :rolleyes:

[Miss Vicky]

Preach it sister(?)! It truly IS amazing, that Christine sounds BETTER now than she did 30 years ago. I think some people are naturally gifted singers, and, some just give it their best shot(and do okay, until they age, and the hormones crap out on them).
I love Stevie's older stuff, but I can't stand to listen to her bleat now.....

Brwneyes is male. The pic in his avatar I believe is of Anne Coulter.

Christine doesn't sound better than she did 30 years ago, she sounds exactly the same. Which, if you enjoy her music, is a good thing. If you don't, then that means her voice puts you to sleep just as much now as it did then.

Don't get me wrong, CM has SOME songs that I do enjoy very much but for the most part, I could take her or leave her. Makes no difference to me.

[dissention]

I still like Stevie, but her range is just not what it used to be. Lindsey has also lost most of his range.

He has more range in his left ass cheek than she does anywhere. She croaks her songs, nothing more.

[amber]

He has more range in his left ass cheek than she does anywhere. She croaks her songs, nothing more.
well, I would argue, considering beautiful child, but, her range does suck.
However, she has more ass cheek left in her, than Lindsey has range... :laugh:

[Miss Vicky]

He has more range in his left ass cheek than she does anywhere. She croaks her songs, nothing more.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dissention, are really gay? I hope not. (Bi would be okay.) 'Cause I'm starting to develop a bit of crush. :xoxo:

[dissention]

well, I would argue, considering beautiful child, but, her range does suck.
However, she has more ass cheek left in her, than Lindsey has range... :laugh:

:lol::lol::lol:

*3 snaps in a Z formation*

[Miss Vicky]

well, I would argue, considering beautiful child, but, her range does suck.
However, she has more ass cheek left in her, than Lindsey has range... :laugh:

That's only because her ass has always been so damned big.

[HomerMcvie]

He has more range in his left ass cheek than she does anywhere. She croaks her songs, nothing more.
Bleat, bleat, bleat.....she needs to hang it up, IMO
She used to be a 7 or an 8, now she's a 2. That's sad.

[dissention]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :laugh: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dissention, are really gay? I hope not. (Bi would be okay.) 'Cause I'm starting to develop a bit of crush. :xoxo:

I'm biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisexual. I love them equally. :laugh:

Anyone will tell you I have no love for Miss Nicks at her current stage. She's insufferable. Lindsey, on the other hand, is a delicious musician and even if he had lost most range, at least he'd have fantastic songs to fall back on. She has..."She was a girly girl, caught in a man's world." :rolleyes:

[dissention]

That's only because her ass has always been so damned big.

I've seen Mack Trucks with narrower asses. :o

[HomerMcvie]

Christine doesn't sound better than she did 30 years ago, she sounds exactly the same. Which, if you enjoy her music, is a good thing.
Well, at least you're admitting that her voice hasn't aged! :xoxo:
And, I do enjoy her very much, so, ......great for me!

[amber]

I'm biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisexual. I love them equally. :laugh:

Anyone will tell you I have no love for Miss Nicks at her current stage. She's insufferable. Lindsey, on the other hand, is a delicious musician and even if he had lost most range, at least he'd have fantastic songs to fall back on. She has..."She was a girly girl, caught in a man's world." :rolleyes:
I find it shortcuts any crush i may have when someone calls Stevie "insufferable", luckily. ;)
Do you really like them "equally"? Judging by this one you've had? How come you didn't do it before then? You know, slept with an equal amount of boys and girls? Just wondering.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisexual. I love them equally. :laugh:

Glad to know it. :) I'm bi too, but I can't say I love them equally. Sometimes I wonder if I'm a closet hetero. :shrug:

Anyone will tell you I have no love for Miss Nicks at her current stage. She's insufferable. Lindsey, on the other hand, is a delicious musician and even if he had lost most range, at least he'd have fantastic songs to fall back on. She has..."She was a girly girl, caught in a man's world." :rolleyes:

:xoxo: :xoxo:

Thank god... er um... something... not god... I don't believe in god... that somebody else sees the light around here. I've noticed that there's more Lindsey love on the Warren Zevon boards than there is here (and I'm not kidding). :confused:

[amber]

That's only because her ass has always been so damned big.
that was exactly the point of my joke. :confused: Although, it hasn't always been big.

[dissention]

I find it shortcuts any crush i may have when someone calls Stevie "insufferable", luckily. ;)
Do you really like them "equally"? Judging by this one you've had? How come you didn't do it before then? You know, slept with an equal amount of boys and girls? Just wondering.

I don't know, honestly. But now that I am, I can say I love both equally. And I do. I really do. :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

that was exactly the point of my joke. :confused: Although, it hasn't always been big.

When the hell was it ever not?

[ontheEdgeof17]

I don't know, honestly. But now that I am, I can say I love both equally. And I do. I really do. :lol:


Mission: 1/2 way complete. :woohoo:

[dissention]

Glad to know it. :) I'm bi too, but I can't say I love them equally. Sometimes I wonder if I'm a closet hetero. :shrug:

Anything that makes me squeal in ecstasy gets a grade of A. And both do. ;)

:xoxo: :xoxo:

Thank god... er um... something... not god... I don't believe in god... that somebody else sees the light around here. I've noticed that there's more Lindsey love on the Warren Zevon boards than there is here (and I'm not kidding). :confused:

No ****! :lol: He's brilliant. Stevie ain't.

[amber]

When the hell was it ever not?
Um, when she was thin? :confused: If you considered her thin body a** giant, then i don't really know what to say. Maybe except that you've mainly seen really flat butts? I dunno.

[Miss Vicky]

Um, when she was thin? :confused: If you considered her thin body a** giant, then i don't really know what to say. Maybe except that you've mainly seen really flat butts? I dunno.

The only difference I see between her ass back then and the way it is now is that it has perhaps sagged a bit lower with age.

[dissention]

The only difference I see between her ass back then and the way it is now is that it has perhaps sagged a bit lower with age.

Ho****. :laugh:

You're vicious.

[amber]

I don't know, honestly. But now that I am, I can say I love both equally. And I do. I really do. :lol:
hmmmm. great. you're lucky. When i slept with a girl, it was nice, and fun, and whatever, but not really...compelling if you know what i mean. I didn't want to do it again and again. I didn't say to myself, "If you only sleep with one sex this year, make it A GIRL!" :laugh:
Well, we now both adore weiners equally... :lol:

[amber]

The only difference I see between her ass back then and the way it is now is that it has perhaps sagged a bit lower with age.
You better get that eye prescription checked. ;) She was way smaller, including her ass. And believe me, I have done some heavy research.

[Miss Vicky]

You better get that eye prescription checked. ;) She was way smaller, including her ass. And believe me, I have done some heavy research.

Way smaller from what it was does not equal small. It's still too damned much bumper for a white girl to be carrying behind her.

[dissention]

I didn't say to myself, "If you only sleep with one sex this year, make it A GIRL!" :laugh:

I've never said that about a dude before, either, and probably never will. :laugh: I like women too much...

Well, we now both adore weiners equally... :lol:

Well, I wouldn't die without another weiner, whereas you probably would. :o

[amber]

Way smaller from what it was does not equal small. It's still too damned much bumper for a white girl to be carrying behind her.
Whatever. That's nice you made that racial distinction of who should have "bumper" or not. And I thought it was very well preportioned for her body, and not that big, and VERY HOT, to boot. But, I'm one of those white girls with "too much bumper", so maybe i'm biased. Mine looks great, too, by the way.

[amber]

I've never said that about a dude before, either, and probably never will. :laugh: I like women too much...



Well, I wouldn't die without another weiner, whereas you probably would. :o
Why would I die without a weiner? :confused:
(Omigod, this jesus song with the jesus backdrop is disgusting!) wrong thread, I know.

[dissention]

Whatever. That's nice you made that racial distinction of who should have "bumper" or not. And I thought it was very well preportioned for her body, and not that big, and VERY HOT, to boot. But, I'm one of those white girls with "too much bumper", so maybe i'm biased. Mine looks great, too, by the way.

Hot and Stevie Nicks do not belong together in a sentence. Pretty (albeit average), sure, but hot? Oy vey!

[amber]

Hot and Stevie Nicks do not belong together in a sentence. Pretty (albeit average), sure, but hot? Oy vey!
well, I think she's hot, but if I didn't, I would still think she had a kickin body. Very well proportioned. Nice legs, nice ass, nice long neck, graceful arms, etc.

[dissention]

Why would I die without a weiner? :confused:

Most straight women with a sex drive would. :laugh:

(Omigod, this jesus song with the jesus backdrop is disgusting!) wrong thread, I know.

Tell me about it. It's SICKENING. I just about punched my TV when he spoke of converting atheists. And just wait for his acceptance speech. What a little f*cker.

[Miss Vicky]

Whatever. That's nice you made that racial distinction of who should have "bumper" or not. And I thought it was very well preportioned for her body, and not that big, and VERY HOT, to boot. But, I'm one of those white girls with "too much bumper", so maybe i'm biased. Mine looks great, too, by the way.

I'm just being honest. Don't get me wrong, a nice round ass on a chick (see J. Lo) is a great thing, and even on some white girls (see Britney Spears - talentless but hot) but Stevie's is a bit much for her body, IMO.

[amber]

I'm just being honest. Don't get me wrong, a nice round ass on a chick (see J. Lo) is a great thing, and even on some white girls (see Britney Spears - talentless but hot) but Stevie's is a bit much for her body, IMO.
Ok. I think you're wrong, and I also don't think I would make racial distinctions of who and who should not have ass. "Even on some white girls". Interesting.
But, hey, I'm not the boss of you, I'm just saying my opinion.

[Miss Vicky]

well, I think she's hot, but if I didn't, I would still think she had a kickin body. Very well proportioned. Nice legs, nice ass, nice long neck, graceful arms, etc.

Nice legs? If you think short and kinda stubby equals nice. Not that you ever see them since there always hidden in those big ugly boots she always wears.
Nice ass? Umm... see previous posts.
Long neck? Hadn't noticed.
Graceful arms? Okay... whatever.

And those damned pouty lips bug the crap out of me.

[amber]

Most straight women with a sex drive would. :laugh:



Tell me about it. It's SICKENING. I just about punched my TV when he spoke of converting atheists. And just wait for his acceptance speech. What a little f*cker.
Here it is...the acceptance speech...oh, it wasn't that bad, I thought there'd be something horrible.
And as far as "most straight women with a sex drive would..." I certainly miss it terribly when it's not there, but i think it stops well short of "going mad" :laugh:

[Miss Vicky]

Ok. I think you're wrong, and I also don't think I would make racial distinctions of who and who should not have ass. "Even on some white girls". Interesting.
But, hey, I'm not the boss of you, I'm just saying my opinion.


I'm just saying, I don't think big asses look right on most white people, male or female. Just my opinion. A big ass on a black or latino of either gender, oh yeah. On a white person, not so much. Not a racist statement, just a statement of preference.

[EnchantedSLN]

Why would I die without a weiner? :confused:
(Omigod, this jesus song with the jesus backdrop is disgusting!) wrong thread, I know.

Nice segue, Amber :laugh:. I don't see what the big deal about Kanye West is either. I already didn't like him from the way he acted on some other award show when he didn't win. He's awfully pretentious.

Nooooo. Diss, just don't cross over all the way! Do you know how few straight, Green, PETA member, Fleetwood Mac/Bette Midler/Bowie/Blondie fan guys who can dress well and decorate there are?

[dissention]

I'll take any size ass as long as it ain't flabby, folks.

[Miss Vicky]

I'll take any size ass as long as it ain't flabby, folks.

Hey now, a little heft on some people actually looks good. :nod:

Have been known to crush on people who have to shop in the plus sizes.

[dissention]

Nice segue, Amber :laugh:. I don't see what the big deal about Kanye West is either. I already didn't like him from the way he acted on some other award show when he didn't win. He's awfully pretentious.

He needs a swift kick in the ass. What a little ****, if I do say so myself.

Nooooo. Diss, just don't cross over all the way! Do you know how few straight, Green, PETA member, Fleetwood Mac/Bette Midler/Bowie/Blondie fan guys who can dress well and decorate there are?

:lol: You flatter me!

I'll never cross over all the way, dear. Never. I can't be completely gay if I still *love* the company of women. :laugh: I'd go totally queer if I could hop into bed with Jake Weber or Alex Kapranos, though...

[amber]

Nice legs? If you think short and kinda stubby equals nice. Not that you ever see them since there always hidden in those big ugly boots she always wears.
Nice ass? Umm... see previous posts.
Long neck? Hadn't noticed.
Graceful arms? Okay... whatever.

And those damned pouty lips bug the crap out of me.
I think her lips are gorgeous, gorgeous. It's way better than thin lips. Her smile is radiant.
These don't strike me as particularly stubby. But she is short. But i don't think her legs are proportionally short. Anyway, you seem to have some kind of "issue" with Stevie that goes far deeper than not liking her voice, so I think I'll end this here.
http://tinypic.com/1q4mmxhttp://tinypic.com/1q4nzshttp://tinypic.com/1q4o0k

[amber]

I'm just saying, I don't think big asses look right on most white people, male or female. Just my opinion. A big ass on a black or latino of either gender, oh yeah. On a white person, not so much. Not a racist statement, just a statement of preference.
Great. :thumbsup: way to go.

[dissention]

I think her lips are gorgeous, gorgeous. It's way better than thin lips. Her smile is radiant.
These don't strike me as particularly stubby. But she is short. But i don't think her legs are proportionally short. Anyway, you seem to have some kind of "issue" with Stevie that goes far deeper than not liking her voice, so I think I'll end this here.
http://tinypic.com/1q4mmxhttp://tinypic.com/1q4nzshttp://tinypic.com/1q4o0k

You can see the V of her crotch in that last pic! :eek:

[amber]

You can see the V of her crotch in that last pic! :eek:
I know. *giggle* I love it. :lol: I was like, "whoa! stevie! um, your goody bits are about to pop out!" :lol: Then i was like "damn, you're limber! that's hot" :)

[dissention]

I know. *giggle* I love it. :lol: I was like, "whoa! stevie! um, your goody bits are about to pop out!" :lol: Then i was like "damn, you're limber! that's hot" :)

It would be hot if it was Debbie Harry, but on Stevie it's too...sisterly. You almost feel bad for looking at it because she's so ridiculously virginal. :laugh:

[amber]

Nice segue, Amber :laugh:. I don't see what the big deal about Kanye West is either. I already didn't like him from the way he acted on some other award show when he didn't win. He's awfully pretentious.

Nooooo. Diss, just don't cross over all the way! Do you know how few straight, Green, PETA member, Fleetwood Mac/Bette Midler/Bowie/Blondie fan guys who can dress well and decorate there are?
:laugh: :lol: :lol: :laugh:
I know. If he wasn't so mean, and said nasty things about Stevie all the time, I would've already had a huge crush on him. oh, and if he wasn't so much younger. But now a crush is nearly impossible. Whew! I narrowly escaped crushdom! :lol:

[Miss Vicky]

I think her lips are gorgeous, gorgeous. It's way better than thin lips. Her smile is radiant.
These don't strike me as particularly stubby. But she is short. But i don't think her legs are proportionally short. Anyway, you seem to have some kind of "issue" with Stevie that goes far deeper than not liking her voice, so I think I'll end this here.
http://tinypic.com/1q4mmxhttp://tinypic.com/1q4nzshttp://tinypic.com/1q4o0k

Short? What is she, 5' 1"? That's a bit more than short. Even my half-asian ass is taller than her.

There are lots of things that I don't like about her that go beyond her voice, but I don't have the time to list them all. Suffice it to say, I like some of her songs, even love some of them, but I don't like her and I don't find her attractive.

I do, however, respect the fact that you're a Stevie fan. And like most arguments, the question of whether or not Stevie is sexy is one that will never be answered. Each side has a differing opinion that won't ever be swayed by the other.

[amber]

It would be hot if it was Debbie Harry, but on Stevie it's too...sisterly. You almost feel bad for looking at it because she's so ridiculously virginal. :laugh:
um...yeah....sisterly....thats...exactly...how i feel...about it.... :lol: NOT!
I'm sorry, she's never struck me as virginal at all. i see a lot of sexy in her. Especially when she does this stuff on stage? Where she spreads her legs and sticks her boon out and shakes it while crouching low? I find it incredibly hot... :)
http://tinypic.com/1q4oxt

[amber]

Short? What is she, 5' 1"? That's a bit more than short. Even my half-asian ass is taller than her.

As if there is something wrong with being short. :rolleyes:

[Miss Vicky]

um...yeah....sisterly....thats...exactly...how i feel...about it.... :lol: NOT!
I'm sorry, she's never struck me as virginal at all. i see a lot of sexy in her. Especially when she does this stuff on stage? Where she spreads her legs and sticks her boon out and shakes it while crouching low? I find it incredibly hot... :)
http://tinypic.com/1q4oxt


I think you're using the wrong tenses here. You speak about this flexibility on stage like she still has it. Maybe she does, I don't know. But she sure as heck doesn't show it anymore. The most she did at the SYW concerts I went to was spread out her arms and turn her back to the audience. Impressive. :rolleyes:

BTW - I have to agree with Diss on this one, she has always striked me as appearing rather *innocent,* shall we say.

[Miss Vicky]

As if there is something wrong with being short. :rolleyes:

Never said there was. Just said that calling her short is a bit of an understatement.

[amber]

I think you're using the wrong tenses here. You speak about this flexibility on stage like she still has it. Maybe she does, I don't know. But she sure as heck doesn't show it anymore. The most she did at the SYW concerts I went to was spread out her arms and turn her back to the audience. Impressive. :rolleyes:

BTW - I have to agree with Diss on this one, she has always striked me as appearing rather *innocent,* shall we say.
No, i was speaking of past performances. And as far as calling her short is an understatement, no it's not, she's short. She's not a dwarf, or a midget. "short" means someone is short. She is short.

[Miss Vicky]

No, i was speaking of past performances. And as far as calling her short is an understatement, no it's not, she's short. She's not a dwarf, or a midget. "short" means someone is short. She is short.

Again... all a matter of opinion. :wavey:

[heyjupiter678]

And as far as calling her short is an understatement, no it's not, she's short. She's not a dwarf, or a midget. "short" means someone is short. She is short. :lol: Amber, I love you.

[Miss Vicky]

An aside note - I just noticed that in about a month's time I went from being a newbie to being a "Senior Ledgie." I guess that must mean I'm a pretty mouthy bitch. :lol:

[amber]

Again... all a matter of opinion. :wavey:
It's a matter of opinion that she is not a dwarf or a midget? :confused:

[amber]

:lol: Amber, I love you.
:xoxo: The feeling is mutual.

[Miss Vicky]

It's a matter of opinion that she is not a dwarf or a midget? :confused:

Ummm... no. It's a matter of opinion as to whether or not she's just short. It's just a pity that the English language doesn't have a word for "falling somewhere between short and dwarf." Don't take things so seriously... I'm just joking around here.

[amber]

Ummm... no. It's a matter of opinion as to whether or not she's just short. It's just a pity that the English language doesn't have a word for "falling somewhere between short and dwarf." Don't take things so seriously... I'm just joking around here.
it really didn't sound like a joke before. The part where you stated your racial a** preferences? A joke? hmmm. And you didn't seem to be joking about what you were saying about Stevie either. :confused: Whatever, I usually don't mind non stevie fans, or anything, but the combo of everything you've said just chapped my hide tonight. So I should cut out on this conversation, because at the moment, the only thing i really have to say to you, is:
http://tinypic.com/1q4s9j

[amber]

:nod: :woohoo: :nod:

Amber, did you get my e-mail with "Fire Burning" in it? Did you get the PM I sent you about it? :wavey:
I'm sorry, sweetie, I didn't check my email all day (stupid) but yes, I did get it. Thank you so much. :xoxo: Haven't listened to it yet, though.

[Nixxxed]

:eek: :lol: :]

Wait -- I thought the full moon was last week...

[amber]

:eek: :lol: :]

Wait -- I thought the full moon was last week...
:laugh: :lol:
Gee, I guess we did see my a** after all.
It's always a full moon rising behind me, baby! :woohoo:

[Miss Vicky]

it really didn't sound like a joke before. The part where you stated your racial a** preferences? A joke? hmmm. And you didn't seem to be joking about what you were saying about Stevie either. :confused: Whatever, I usually don't mind non stevie fans, or anything, but the combo of everything you've said just chapped my hide tonight. So I should cut out on this conversation, because at the moment, the only thing i really have to say to you, is:
http://tinypic.com/1q4s9j

Well I wasn't joking about the "racial ass preferences." But I guess the fact that I would dare even mention differences between the races got your blood boiling and you couldn't see any levity in any comments I made before or after that. If you took offense to my comments, I really do apologize - but I won't take any of the comments back.
Sometimes I forget how easy it is for sarcasm to be misconstrued on a printed forum, since I don't have the benefit of the use of facial expressions (beyond the limited scope of the smileys) and tone of voice to convey my real meaning.

So again, I apologize for truly offending you. It really wasn't my intention.

In the words of the late-great Warren Zevon, in a song covered by your favorite Stevie Nicks:

Let's let bygones be forgotten
Reconsider me... :angel:

[Nixxxed]

:laugh: :lol:
Gee, I guess we did see my a** after all.
It's always a full moon rising behind me, baby! :woohoo:
:laugh: Me too *munches Fritos*

And it's just as bright -- I really need to hit the semi-nude beach (altho not totally sanctioned) near here. I'm starting to be afraid that it might actually glow in the dark.

[amber]

:laugh: Me too *munches Fritos*

And it's just as bright -- I really need to hit the semi-nude beach (altho not totally sanctioned) near here. I'm starting to be afraid that it might actually glow in the dark.
:lol: :laugh: :lol:
oh, no, those aren't scooby induced Fritos, are they? that's what usually happens to me. :lol: it's okay that your butt is white, It makes it easier for me to find you in the dark ;) I actually don't usually tan my bun, except for the part that isn't covered by my 'kini. I enjoy looking at the contrast line. :laugh: My "boobs" though? A must tan. I am a freak about even tan lines...But I enjoy nude beaches anyway, so you should just go there no matter what... :]

[amber]

Well I wasn't joking about the "racial ass preferences." But I guess the fact that I would dare even mention differences between the races got your blood boiling :
Damn! I knew I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut. It's not your mentioning differences between races that gets to me, it's the judgement of those differences, and, your judgement directly insulted me, my ass, and my races' ass. But, there is really nothing I can do about your racial ass preferences, insulting though i think they are, so whatever.

[Miss Vicky]

Damn! I knew I wouldn't be able to keep my mouth shut. It's not your mentioning differences between races that gets to me, it's the judgement of those differences, and, your judgement directly insulted me, my ass, and my races' ass. But, there is really nothing I can do about your racial ass preferences, insulting though i think they are, so whatever.

Sheesh... I made my apologies. What more do you want? :distress:

And as I've said before... It wasn't meant to be a racist comment. I was simply stating MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES. Simply put, I think large rear ends look good on certain people, but not on others. So please... I'm begging you... lower your defenses already. I wasn't trying to insult you.

And for the record, this (see link below) is hanging on my bedroom wall. It's kind of a relic from my past days as a Stevie fan, but I left it up because I thought it was beautiful.

[amber]

Sheesh... I made my apologies. What more do you want? :distress:

And as I've said before... It wasn't meant to be a racist comment. I was simply stating MY PERSONAL PREFERENCES. Simply put, I think large rear ends look good on certain people, but not on others. So please... I'm begging you... lower your defenses already. I wasn't trying to insult you.

And for the record, this (see link below) is hanging on my bedroom wall. It's kind of a relic from my past days as a Stevie fan, but I left it up because I thought it was beautiful.
Ok. It's fine
*OMigod, my home town is on the news - there was a giant antigay marriage rally, (oh, those pesky mormon/redneck/uppermiddle class kids!) and then a response by the city leaders (and counterdemonstrators) that that kind of hate message would not be tolerated in Placerville, and that it is declared a hate free "city" (city? not even) blah blah...How weird for me!* Anyway, back to my thought, it's fine, i'll talk to you later, or whatever, have a great night. Oh, unfortunately, I don't like that pic much, but it's ok.
Here's a picture of a building "downtown" :laugh:
http://tinypic.com/1q4yo3

[Miss Vicky]

A little late in the game, I know, but I just thought of a big guilty pleasure that I had forgotten to mention...

I LOVE to go to a movie rental place and find the cheesiest possible B-movies (usually horror) to watch. If you're ever in one of the places, check out The Mummy's Kiss, Blood Gnome, Killer Rats, Rodentz, and Anklebiters. Those are a few of the "gems" I've come across.
:thumbsup:

Speaking of B-movies... has anyone seen Gypsy 83? It has something to do with the "Night of a Thousand Stevies." I almost rented it last time, but ended up with Blood Gnome instead.

[Serrart]

You mean a sleep-inducing experience?

Not for me. She talks of feelings without shouting, but many times with a subtle unexpected intensity or poignant irony. Her arrangements sometimes aren't my cup of tea, but IMO she wrote and keeps writing great songs.

Romy

[Serrart]

Short? What is she, 5' 1"? That's a bit more than short. Even my half-asian ass is taller than her.

There are lots of things that I don't like about her that go beyond her voice, but I don't have the time to list them all. Suffice it to say, I like some of her songs, even love some of them, but I don't like her and I don't find her attractive.

I bet she can survive. :nod:

Romy

[Brwn_eyes0511]

You speak of this as if it's a bad thing. Considering Lindsey's voice used to go so high that at times he sounded either like or woman or like someone who'd just inhaled helium (and I'm not just talking about the times he'd use studio tricks to intentionally make it sound that way), I'm quite glad that his voice has dropped considerably. He has a much more manly sound to his voice now that is just so damn sexy. :] IMO, his loss of range equates to an improved singing voice. :nod:

It's a bad thing when you're still trying to sing a song like Go Your Own Way in the same key! :cool:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Well, at least you're admitting that her voice hasn't aged! :xoxo:
And, I do enjoy her very much, so, ......great for me!

I think they are just jealous that the one out of the three that they liked the least (Chris) is the one who is the most unchanged, as far as her voice and her looks! She is a class act...ROCK ON CHRIS! :nod: :woohoo: :nod:

[dissention]

It's a bad thing when you're still trying to sing a song like Go Your Own Way in the same key! :cool:

I'd prefer that sort of attempt over what Stevie does to her songs by lowering the key so much that the song is utterly unrecognizable and painful to listen to.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Anything that makes me squeal in ecstasy gets a grade of A. And both do. ;)



No ****! :lol: He's brilliant. Stevie ain't.

How about Chris is the TRUE brilliant one of the bunch!

[dissention]

I think they are just jealous that the one out of the three that they liked the least (Chris) is the one who is the most unchanged, as far as her voice and her looks! She is a class act...ROCK ON CHRIS! :nod: :woohoo: :nod:

I love Christine's voice, so I'm not jealous of anything. Her songs are always hit or miss with me, but I'm not one who dislikes her in the least. I prefer her to Stevie these days.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Oh yes....Big Love sounds sooooooo good these days. :rolleyes:

BWAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHH! :laugh:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I'd prefer that sort of attempt over what Stevie does to her songs by lowering the key so much that the song is utterly unrecognizable and painful to listen to.

Yea she has been lowering alot of her songs!

I think she does Beautiful Child very well though! I think that as long as she sticks to middle range material she fairs Okay! Most of her new stuff is pretty good (maybe not artistic wise, but her sounding better singing them....yes)

[dissention]

Each to their own. I think what you and others see as subtlety perhaps disguising intensity, I see as a basic lack of feeling, or lack of expressing anything original.

Very good point and her lack of originality is what has made me lose interest in her. There are only so many songs one can write about dreams before it gets laughable. Her songs have consistently become more explicitly self-involved over the years and I simply do not listen to music to hear the innermost personal thoughts of an artist in an attempt to get to know them, unlike some Stevie fans who listen to her to know the woman behind the songs. I have no desire to know her, I've never met the chick. I listen to music for the pleasure of it, the element of surprise and originality, and the emotional connection I may make to it.

[dissention]

Yea she has been lowering alot of her songs!

I think she does Beautiful Child very well though! I think that as long as she sticks to middle range material she fairs Okay! Most of her new stuff is pretty good (maybe not artistic wise, but her sounding better singing them....yes)

Beautiful Child is the ONLY song she can sing well these days. She croaks everything else. Have you seen Live In Boston? I was there and thought it was phenomenal, but then I saw the DVD and realized just how dull and vocally uninspired she really was for most of it. Say You Will is simply unbearable on it, that vocal is horrifying.

Her new material does nothing for me. It's uninspired and lazy to these ears. She's still capable of hitting it out of the park (the song TISL, for example), but for some reason she chooses not to. Scribbling inane mumbo jumbo in your journal does not a good song make.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I love Christine's voice, so I'm not jealous of anything. Her songs are always hit or miss with me, but I'm not one who dislikes her in the least. I prefer her to Stevie these days.

:)

Well I wasn't really talking about you!!! I know you like Chris.

I have never understood why she is so overlooked!?!

Her new album is great to me because it's finally her outside THE MAC, able to be truly herself! Very British/blues/pop production and very laid back!

It BLOWS SYW out of the water! SYW tried to be larger than life and exploded in the process! Chris puts on no fronts.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Very good point and her lack of originality is what has made me lose interest in her. There are only so many songs one can write about dreams before it gets laughable. Her songs have consistently become more explicitly self-involved over the years and I simply do not listen to music to hear the innermost personal thoughts of an artist in an attempt to get to know them, unlike some Stevie fans who listen to her to know the woman behind the songs. I have no desire to know her, I've never met the chick. I listen to music for the pleasure of it, the element of surprise and originality, and the emotional connection I may make to it.

Very good points! Just wondering if there is songs of hers recently like on SYW or TISL that you DO like?

[dissention]

:)

Well I wasn't really talking about you!!! I know you like Chris.

I have never understood why she is so overlooked!?!

Her new album is great to me because it's finally her outside THE MAC, able to be truly herself! Very British/blues/pop production and very laid back!

It BLOWS SYW out of the water! SYW tried to be larger than life and exploded in the process! Chris puts on no fronts.

I'm not a big fan of In the Meantime ( :sorry: ), save a few stellar songs, but I agree about Say You Will. What a bloated mess that bastard was. And people wonder why it bombed. It was an audio assault to the Nth degree. Loved Lindsey's songs, but I could have done without most of Stevie's.

[dissention]

Very good points! Just wondering if there is songs of hers recently like on SYW or TISL that you DO like?

Yes, there are plenty.

Goodbye Baby
Trouble In Shangri-La
Planets of the Universe (horrid production, though)
Sorcerer
It's Only Love
Bombay Sapphires
Smile At You
Everybody Finds Out (juvenile, but pleasurable)
Destiny Rules
Parts of Running Through the Garden

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Beautiful Child is the ONLY song she can sing well these days. She croaks everything else. Have you seen Live In Boston? I was there and thought it was phenomenal, but then I saw the DVD and realized just how dull and vocally uninspired she really was for most of it. Say You Will is simply unbearable on it, that vocal is horrifying.

Her new material does nothing for me. It's uninspired and lazy to these ears. She's still capable of hitting it out of the park (the song TISL, for example), but for some reason she chooses not to. Scribbling inane mumbo jumbo in your journal does not a good song make.

My question is...how in the hell did she screw up most of her range from The Dance until now! Silver Springs from Live in Boston sounds NOTHING like when it was done on The Dance. First of all, the keyboard player STINKS and it sounds like he is playing a cheap keyboard he got at walmart! (Not the awesome Yamaha Grand played by Chris). Secondly, The song is played WAY to fast, and at the end Lindsey is SCREAMING THE LYRICS!!!! And it is missing the great three-part harmony! How did they f*ck up such a great song between The Dance and Live In Boston?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Yes, there are plenty.

Goodbye Baby
Trouble In Shangri-La
Planets of the Universe (horrid production, though)
Sorcerer
It's Only Love
Bombay Sapphires
Smile At You
Everybody Finds Out (juvenile, but pleasurable)
Destiny Rules
Parts of Running Through the Garden

I like all those as well...especially

Goodbye Baby (great way to end concerts now that Chris can't do Songbird)
Smile At You
and Sorcerer

[Sugar]

Very good point and her lack of originality is what has made me lose interest in her. There are only so many songs one can write about dreams before it gets laughable. Her songs have consistently become more explicitly self-involved over the years and I simply do not listen to music to hear the innermost personal thoughts of an artist in an attempt to get to know them, unlike some Stevie fans who listen to her to know the woman behind the songs. I have no desire to know her, I've never met the chick. I listen to music for the pleasure of it, the element of surprise and originality, and the emotional connection I may make to it.

Good post, and I feel much the same. There was a time I was a huge Stevie fan, and I still really like some of her stuff, but her newer stuff is really hit or miss. I listen to only three songs on TISL (when I listen to it at all) and I think only one of her songs on SYW...no more than three at any rate.

Lindsey on the other hand just gets MORE interesting and I like him now more than ever. And even if I need to warm up to his songs after a few listens they stay with me much longer than anything of Stevie's these days. The GOS songs, to me, prove he's just getting better and better.

Songs like SGCYM, RR, GOS, TOF, and even what he did with some of those Stones covers...WOW! Stevie doesn't make me say WOW anymore. :lol:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I'm not a big fan of In the Meantime ( :sorry: ), save a few stellar songs, but I agree about Say You Will. What a bloated mess that bastard was. And people wonder why it bombed. It was an audio assault to the Nth degree. Loved Lindsey's songs, but I could have done without most of Stevie's.

Red Rover = Classic!!! :)

What were the songs you enjoyed from ITM?

[dissention]

My question is...how in the hell did she screw up most of her range from The Dance until now!

You know, this is actually very interesting. During The Dance, her voice was very powerful, there was a lot of strength to it. It got even better during the Enchanted tour. Then something just happened in 2001. The last boot out there from 2000 (AHI benefit) shows her with a still powerful voice. Then she made the rounds for TISL on various talk shows and I simply could not believe how whispy and thin her voice was. It was unbelievable. And it had only been a matter of months since she had sounded fabulous. Then she had a lot of problems with her voice and illnesses, and her voice simply has not recovered. She must have really done something to really f*ck it up, because she's now lost the range she had four years ago.

Silver Springs from Live in Boston sounds NOTHING like when it was done on The Dance. First of all, the keyboard player STINKS and it sounds like he is playing a cheap keyboard he got at walmart! (Not the awesome Yamaha Grand played by Chris). Secondly, The song is played WAY to fast, and at the end Lindsey is SCREAMING THE LYRICS!!!! And it is missing the great three-part harmony! How did they f*ck up such a great song between The Dance and Live In Boston?

Firstly, I can't stand Brett Tuggle. :laugh:

Silver Springs should never have returned, they should have let it stay glorious. Her voice cannot do it justice and when people say it's more instense than it was in '97, they're only saying that because she's overcompensating for a diminished vocal range by screaming it. It's kind of sad to me. :(

[dissention]

Good post, and I feel much the same. There was a time I was a huge Stevie fan, and I still really like some of her stuff, but her newer stuff is really hit or miss. I listen to only three songs on TISL (when I listen to it at all) and I think only one of her songs on SYW...no more than three at any rate.

Lindsey on the other hand just gets MORE interesting and I like him now more than ever. And even if I need to warm up to his songs after a few listens they stay with me much longer than anything of Stevie's these days. The GOS songs, to me, prove he's just getting better and better.

Songs like SGCYM, RR, GOS, TOF, and even what he did with some of those Stones covers...WOW! Stevie doesn't make me say WOW anymore. :lol:

:nod: Lindsey will wow me until he passes.

As much as I hate to agree with Johnny Stew, he pretty much summed up those feelings in regards to how I feel about Stevie and he was spot on.

I have no use for an artist who cannot still wow me after so many years. Lindsey can. Bowie can. Debbie can. Bonnie Raitt certainly did last night at the Grammy's (made me f*cking cry :laugh: ). I need for them to stay fresh and true to their art form. After writing such fabulous music for so long, one cannot flee into the shadows of mediocrity. Stevie has and her songs these days just make me roll my eyes and say "You did this fifteen years ago, darling."

[Sugar]

Silver Springs should never have returned, they should have let it stay glorious. Her voice cannot do it justice and when people say it's more instense than it was in '97, they're only saying that because she's overcompensating for a diminished vocal range by screaming it. It's kind of sad to me. :(

Absolutely. It had a glorious return with The Dance, one that could never ever be matched, not just because of the vocal, but the all the circumstances surrounding it (the return of Lindsey, the unearthing of the song, etc.) They should have let it have its moment and not keep trotting it out like some worn out old nag... :lol:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

You know, this is actually very interesting. During The Dance, her voice was very powerful, there was a lot of strength to it. It got even better during the Enchanted tour. Then something just happened in 2001. The last boot out there from 2000 (AHI benefit) shows her with a still powerful voice. Then she made the rounds for TISL on various talk shows and I simply could not believe how whispy and thin her voice was. It was unbelievable. And it had only been a matter of months since she had sounded fabulous. Then she had a lot of problems with her voice and illnesses, and her voice simply has not recovered. She must have really done something to really f*ck it up, because she's now lost the range she had four years ago.



Firstly, I can't stand Brett Tuggle. :laugh:

Silver Springs should never have returned, they should have let it stay glorious. Her voice cannot do it justice and when people say it's more instense than it was in '97, they're only saying that because she's overcompensating for a diminished vocal range by screaming it. It's kind of sad to me. :(

That's interesting about her losing her vocal quality like that between TD and LIB!!! I don't know how it happend but it sure did! TD showed Stevie (and the rest of that band for that matter) in top form!

Brett Tuggle...that is his name! He sucks! I agree that they should have just left it as the awsome piece of work it was from TD...and this is it! NO MORE!

[dissention]

Red Rover = Classic!!! :)

What were the songs you enjoyed from ITM?

Bad Jorney, Calumny, Liar, Sweet Revenge, and Northern Star. The rest aren't bad, just not favorites. :o

[dissention]

Absolutely. It had a glorious return with The Dance, one that could never ever be matched, not just because of the vocal, but the all the circumstances surrounding it (the return of Lindsey, the unearthing of the song, etc.) They should have let it have its moment and not keep trotting it out like some worn out old nag... :lol:

:laugh:

Very well put. It was so amazing back then because it was special and because her voice simply soared on it. Whether it was fixed up in the studio or not, it's one of the best vocals she's ever put on record. She showed exactly how it was done and it was one of her crowning achievements. Unfortunately, it just looked like performing it was a chore on this past tour and her ragged voice didn't complement it.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Bad Jorney, Calumny, Liar, Sweet Revenge, and Northern Star. The rest aren't bad, just not favorites. :o

Well of course I love all of the songs on ITM.

But, my favs are...

Northern Star
Bad Journey
Anything is Possible
So Sincere
Sweet Revenge
Forgiveness (My FAV!!!!) ("Trapped in the middle of lousy love)affair"...love that line!
and Givin' It Back

[DrummerDeanna]

I'm not even going to try to catch up to this thread.....

Guilty pleasures:

The L Word - so many hot chicks....I LOVE this show *drool*
Strawberries w/ whipped cream....yum yum yum
Little House on the Prairie
Chocolate...lots and lots of chocolate...
really super sappy love songs (like Everything I do (I do it for you) and oh crap I can't remember the name but it's a really really super sappy duet...:p )

[Miss Vicky]

I think they are just jealous that the one out of the three that they liked the least (Chris) is the one who is the most unchanged, as far as her voice and her looks! She is a class act...ROCK ON CHRIS! :nod: :woohoo: :nod:

Since I know this is directed at me (since I made a comment on the Christine forum that I was "less than heartbroken when Christine left the band" and certain people-- brwneyes included--blew up over the whole thing and accused me of saying that I was happy that she's gone) let me just say this:

I HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID NOR INSINUATED THAT CHRISTINE IS MY LEAST FAVORITE. And while it's no secret that Lindsey Buckingham is my favorite member of the band, it's also no secret that Stevie Nicks is decidedly not.

Do not assume that you know which of the two women is my least favorite. :mad:

And for the record, it also wouldn't break my heart if the band broke up all together. Then maybe I'd finally get the Buckingham solo album I've been waiting for. :nod:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Since I know this is directed at me (since I made a comment on the Christine forum that I was "less than heartbroken when Christine left the band" and certain people-- brwneyes included--blew up over the whole thing and accused me of saying that I was happy that she's gone) let me just say this:

I HAVE NEVER ONCE SAID NOR INSINUATED THAT CHRISTINE IS MY LEAST FAVORITE. And while it's no secret that Lindsey Buckingham is my favorite member of the band, it's also no secret that Stevie Nicks is decidedly not.

Do not assume that you know which of the two women is my least favorite. :mad:

And for the record, it also wouldn't break my heart if the band broke up all together. Then maybe I'd finally get the Buckingham solo album I've been waiting for. :nod:

I don't even remember you making that remark on the Chris forum!?! Gee...guess it didn't have a profound effect on me :shrug:

I didn't direct it at you!!! You are assuming that, and getting angry for no reason!

[DrummerDeanna]

Chris is my least favorite :shrug: I'm a Stevie Loyalist forevemore :D

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Chris is my least favorite :shrug: I'm a Stevie Loyalist forevemore :D

See Miss Vicky! I was talkin about someone like Deanna! :xoxo: ( :cool: )

[strandinthewind]

. . .

And for the record, it also wouldn't break my heart if the band broke up all together. Then maybe I'd finally get the Buckingham solo album I've been waiting for. :nod:

Well, LB tried that - but came back to FM because his solo stuff (Out of the Cradle and GOS) was not warmly received from a financial perspective, which he obviously and rightly cares about. Interestingly and sadly, his solo effort GOS as translated to SYW was also not warmly received from a financial perspective. Plus, he said he likes working with FM, esp. Stevie, as evidenced by his emotional scene in the Destiny Rules doc. But, who knows, maybe he will release a solo record soon as he has alleged, though we do not reckon "soon" the same I suspect :laugh: I, for one, hope he does release a solo record in the next year because I like his solo stuff.

[DrummerDeanna]

See Miss Vicky! I was talkin about someone like Deanna! :xoxo: ( :cool: )

I have no clue what that is about as I rarely visit the Chris boards....saying she's my least favorite doesn't mean I dislike her or anything - but whatevah - that's just my taste :D

[dissention]

Who are these irrelevant women you speak of?

:laugh:

One of them is the woman-child that ruined Say You Will.

[strandinthewind]

I have no clue what that is about as I rarely visit the Chris boards....saying she's my least favorite doesn't mean I dislike her or anything - but whatevah - that's just my taste :D

:laugh: Ah - but them's fighting words around here :laugh:

People just love to use outrageous words like "croak" "Elmer Fudd" "fat" etc. when describing Stevie. I guess it is their right to say such if they really feel it (which I question as well - but that is just my own suspicion) - but it also is simultaneously rude and intentional to other Ledgies who have expressed that they find it offensive :shrug: I mean that is the harm ion just saying they do not care for her voice or, it is lower than it used to be, her range has lessened, etc. It conveys the same message. But, that type of respect for people who like her is rarely shown :shrug:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

:laugh:

One of them is the woman-child that ruined Say You Will.

:nod: :woohoo:

The other is a beautiful songbird who wrote most of the hits for the band in whose dedicated forum we do love to chat at.

[Miss Vicky]

I don't even remember you making that remark on the Chris forum!?! Gee...guess it didn't have a profound effect on me :shrug:

I didn't direct it at you!!! You are assuming that, and getting angry for no reason!

The post you replied to was a response to my post. If you don't want such misunderstandings then be careful what you're replying to when you target a particular individual.

[DrummerDeanna]

:laugh: Ah - but them's fighting words aroung here :laugh:

People just love to use outrageous words like "croak" "Elmer Fudd" "fat" etc. when describing Stevie. I guess it is their right to say such if they really feel it (which I question as well - but that is just my own suspicion) - but it also is simultaneously rude and intentional to other Ledgies who have expressed that they find it offensive :shrug: I mean that is the harm ion just saying they do not care for her voice or, it is lower than it used to be, her range has lessened, etc. It conveys the same message. But, that type of respect for people who like her is rarely shown :shrug:


Ah - wow - have these words been uttered...perhaps I should jaunt on over the Chris board sometime.

I don't care if people say crap like that about Stevie- I mean if they don't "get it" then fine - don't listen - I find it sad because really there is so much beauty in Stevie's words and such.....it's just what I love....

If them's fightin' words so be it :) It's Stevie all the way for me (though I also love Linds :) - not as rabidly as some - but I enjoy his solo endeavors)

AND - when I first got into Fleetwood Mac I SWORE I wouldn't become one of the "Stevie obsessives" - I got all into Chris - and got one of her solo albums and everything - then I honestly don't know what happened - but I became a Stevie obsessive :laugh:

[DrummerDeanna]

She doesn't conjure images of violent rage? Actually all music aside, from what I can see, Christine seems like the personality I'd like to be around the most. That is assuming we weren't doing anything meaningful. I'm not sure how I found myself in a situation with any of them though. Actually with an irrational Stevie presence you do need a bit of Lindsey so as to not be isolated in your recognition of this irrationality. Whatever, Christine seems like a hoot.

:laugh: No - no violent rages....none of them do - and I agree personality wise Chris kicks some ass for sure - I think personality wise though John wins for my favorite :D

[Serrart]

Each to their own. I think what you and others see as subtlety perhaps disguising intensity, I see as a basic lack of feeling, or lack of expressing anything original. I'm trying to come off as objective but I think I'm succeeding. My favourite song of all-time is A Day In The Life by John Lennon (ok, The Beatles, whatever). That, Strawberry Fields, Nowhere Man, She Said She Said etc. use brilliant subtlety to give glimpse of a state where the author is actually screaming. On the other hand he has songs such as Mother, God and even Help which are what I'd consider those songs that talk about feeling by the use of shouting them. As for Christine's subtlety, well if you can see what it is that I like about those earlier mentioned Lennon songs then I don't need to explain to you why her lyrics often cause more pain than pleasure.

Did that prove anything? Probably not.

Infinity can be in a cup of coffee. Originality for me is only an instrument, some use it in the most poetic way (see Lennon), some others bore you to tears. I think Christine McVie speaks of every day situations with every day words, but has the talent to bring a surprising and sometimes fulfilling light to both of them. :)

Romy

[Miss Vicky]

Well, LB tried that - but came back to FM because his solo stuff (Out of the Cradle and GOS) was not warmly received from a financial perspective, which he obviously and rightly cares about. Interestingly and sadly, his solo effort GOS as translated to SYW was also not warmly received from a financial perspective. Plus, he said he likes working with FM, esp. Stevie, as evidenced by his emotional scene in the Destiny Rules doc. But, who knows, maybe he will release a solo record soon as he has alleged, though we do not reckon "soon" the same I suspect :laugh: I, for one, hope he does release a solo record in the next year because I like his solo stuff.


hhhmmm... the most emotional scene that stands out to me in Destiny Rules was the fight that got started when Karen (that's the name of Stevie's assistant, right?) mentioned Stevie's lawyers...

I also remember a comment Lindsey made of being willing to eat a "f*** of a lot of money" (or something to that effect) in order to get his creative vision realized.

Come to think of it, he had quite a few emotional scenes.

I'm just tired of FM projects getting in the way of his solo work. First it was Tango, then The Dance, and now Say You Will. It's been 13 years since the last solo album... I think it's long overdue and he needs to get the damned thing out. Besides that... there's nothing I wouldn't give to see him perform live, without Stevie's irritating hand gestures (see "Say You Will" from LIB- I can't decide if she's trying to rope someone in the audience or do the "I'm a Little Teapot" dance) and without Mick's ego-stroking drum and vest solo.

Also... not that thrilled with the song choices on SYW. I hadn't heard "Peacekeeper" or "What's the World Coming To" before and was thrilled to see "Come," "Murrow," and "Miranda" on the track list, but I'm not a big fan of "Red Rover" or "Say Goodbye" and we heard "Bleed to Love Her" already on The Dance. That slot could have been better filled with something like "Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind" (my all-time favorite Buckingham song). :nod:

[DrummerDeanna]

Infinity can be in a cup of coffee. Originality for me is only an instrument, some use it in the most poetic way (see Lennon), some others bore you to tears. I think Christine McVie speaks of every day situations with every day words, but has the talent to bring a surprising and sometimes fulfilling light to both of them. :)

Romy

It bugs me to no end that she used the word "woo" in a song - I don't know why - but I have a real problem with this :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

It bugs me to no end that she used the word "woo" in a song - I don't know why - but I have a real problem with this :laugh:


:laugh: :laugh:

I know! I sing it like this:

"You rule me until the sun comes up.."

[Miss Vicky]

:laugh: Ah - but them's fighting words around here :laugh:

People just love to use outrageous words like "croak" "Elmer Fudd" "fat" etc. when describing Stevie. I guess it is their right to say such if they really feel it (which I question as well - but that is just my own suspicion) - but it also is simultaneously rude and intentional to other Ledgies who have expressed that they find it offensive :shrug: I mean that is the harm ion just saying they do not care for her voice or, it is lower than it used to be, her range has lessened, etc. It conveys the same message. But, that type of respect for people who like her is rarely shown :shrug:

As one of the people in question (I likened Stevie's voice to Elmer Fudd), I can say I used that description because it was the best thing I could think of to match what her voice sounds like to me. Although some people may have found this insulting (why, i don't know... after all it was directed at Stevie, and as far as I know, she isn't a Ledgie) that really wasn't the intention. I've seen many rather insulting things being stated on these boards about my favorite, Lindsey Buckingham - but rather than getting all upset about it, I either ignore the post or calmly express my disagreement. It seems the logical thing to do. :wavey:

[Serrart]

:laugh: Ah - but them's fighting words around here :laugh:

People just love to use outrageous words like "croak" "Elmer Fudd" "fat" etc. when describing Stevie. I guess it is their right to say such if they really feel it (which I question as well - but that is just my own suspicion) - but it also is simultaneously rude and intentional to other Ledgies who have expressed that they find it offensive :shrug: I mean that is the harm ion just saying they do not care for her voice or, it is lower than it used to be, her range has lessened, etc. It conveys the same message. But, that type of respect for people who like her is rarely shown :shrug:

It conveys the same message, but it wouldn't be as fun to write for them, I guess. But who cares about them, really? I respect their opinions but to attack her for losing her range is pointless, for me. Her voice today is powerful in so many ways, and arrives straight to my soul, and I think to many others too. If they want to go around in the circle of dissing, more power to them. What really means is unattached for me. ;)

Romy

[amber]

It bugs me to no end that she used the word "woo" in a song - I don't know why - but I have a real problem with this :laugh:
aw, I like the woo, and that song in general, though overall I like Chris' songs the least. I think it's subtle, and nice, but I still know what she means. ;)

[dissention]

I respect their opinions but to attack her for losing her range is pointless, for me.

I don't attack her for losing her range, she did that to herself through years of abuse on her vocal chords. She never knew how to sing and that's what screwed it up. What I do attack her for are her lackluster performances due to her severely diminished range and matronly, immobile stage presence. If I don't think her performances are up to snuff, I'll say so. No one has any trouble complaining when they think Lindsey screams his songs or that his voice is piss-poor, it should be no different for Miss Nicks. It's all a matter of preference.

[Miss Vicky]

I don't attack her for losing her range, she did that to herself through years of abuse on her vocal chords. She never knew how to sing and that's what screwed it up.


Not to mention the three-pack-a-day cigarette habit she had for a long time.

[DrummerDeanna]

I don't attack her for losing her range, she did that to herself through years of abuse on her vocal chords. She never knew how to sing and that's what screwed it up. What I do attack her for are her lackluster performances due to her severely diminished range and matronly, immobile stage presence. If I don't think her performances are up to snuff, I'll say so. No one has any trouble complaining when they think Lindsey screams his songs or that his voice is piss-poor, it should be no different for Miss Nicks. It's all a matter of preference.

It is all a matter of preference - I agree - I don't mind the things you mentioned above - but ya know - some people do :)

and if I had a buck for every person that has likened Ms. Nicks to a goat in my pressence :rolleyes: haha...I don't take this stuff personally anymore :)

[wondergirl9847]

LINDSEY FREAKIN' RULES!

That is all. :)

[dissention]

Not to mention the three-pack-a-day cigarette habit she had for a long time.

I particularly love how she talked of using cough drops to help her voice. That **** doesn't do anything. :laugh: And those moisture machines she used? They probably worked for the first song, but that's it. Any singer worth their salt knows that if you want to loosen up your voice, you down a couple tablespoons of olive oil.

[Miss Vicky]

LINDSEY FREAKIN' RULES!

That is all. :)


You tell 'em! Preach on! :nod:

[amber]

I particularly love how she talked of using cough drops to help her voice. That **** doesn't do anything. :laugh: And those moisture machines she used? They probably worked for the first song, but that's it. Any singer worth their salt knows that if you want to loosen up your voice, you down a couple tablespoons of olive oil.
Or Beer... :lol: Just kidding, just kidding...

[dissention]

It is all a matter of preference - I agree - I don't mind the things you mentioned above - but ya know - some people do :)

and if I had a buck for every person that has likened Ms. Nicks to a goat in my pressence :rolleyes: haha...I don't take this stuff personally anymore :)

I only think she sounds like a goat on the Mirage concert vid. Especially Gypsy, my word. Otherwise, I don't hear it. :wavey:

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I particularly love how she talked of using cough drops to help her voice. That **** doesn't do anything. :laugh: And those moisture machines she used? They probably worked for the first song, but that's it. Any singer worth their salt knows that if you want to loosen up your voice, you down a couple tablespoons of olive oil.

Smoking doesn't really effect the sound of your voice as much as it does your breath control. I mean look at Chris, used to be a smoker...it hasn't effected the way she sounds at all! I think you were correct in saying before that Stevie didn't know how to sing correctly and is now paying for it.

[dissention]

Smoking doesn't really effect the sound of your voice as much as it does your breath control. I mean look at Chris, used to be a smoker...it hasn't effected the way she sounds at all!

Oh, it most certainly does, especially if you smoked three packs a day for as long as Stevie Nicks did. Add to that all the abuse to her chords from singing improperly (she must have thought a diaphragm was simply a contraceptive), snorting all that coke, drinking all that booze, etc. She's lucky she can even talk.

Someone said awhile back that they thought her current voice was just due to aging and nothing else and I wanted to scream.

[dissention]

Destiny Rules ! My god, the vocals on that are embarassing. Baaahhh.

Oh, that, too. :laugh:

May-ay-ay-ay-ay-be we we-re-re-re-re toge-e-e-e-e-etha in a-a-a-anoth-ah-ah-ah li-i-i-ife.

Putrid vocals. Same with Candlebright, now that I think of it.

[strandinthewind]

hhhmmm... the most emotional scene that stands out to me in Destiny Rules was the fight that got started when Karen (that's the name of Stevie's assistant, right?) mentioned Stevie's lawyers...

I referred to when LB openly wept when explaining to La Nicks how much it meant to him to be able to work with them and her again. I think weeping qualifies as the most emotional scene, esp. considering LB had to walk away because of it.

I'm just tired of FM projects getting in the way of his solo work. First it was Tango, then The Dance, and now Say You Will. It's been 13 years since the last solo album... I think it's long overdue and he needs to get the damned thing out. Besides that... there's nothing I wouldn't give to see him perform live, without Stevie's irritating hand gestures (see "Say You Will" from LIB- I can't decide if she's trying to rope someone in the audience or do the "I'm a Little Teapot" dance) and without Mick's ego-stroking drum and vest solo . . .

Well, talk to him about it as he seems to love her and her performances - in fact, he loves them so much he invited her to be on his solo soundstage performace which I attended - Interestingly, he did not invite John and Mick who were also in Chicago at the time :shrug: So, apparently, the pacakge deal is not in total demise - much to your apparent chagrain :laugh:

Tone - jovial - not snarky :cool:

[dissention]

I referred to when LB openly wept when explaining to La Nicks how much it meant to him to be able to work with them and her again. I think weeping qualifies as the most emotional scene, esp. considering LB had to walk away because of it.

I would hardly call that weeping. :laugh: What rank spin!

[Miss Vicky]

Destiny Rules ! My god, the vocals on that are embarassing. Baaahhh.


I always thought she sounded more nasal than bleating on that one... more like her idols Petty and Dylan (only they sound good when they do it)... but I see what you're saying. :nod:

And to this a really potentially insulting joke comes to mind, but out of respect for the thin-skinned Stevie-ites among us, I'll refrain. :rolleyes:

[strandinthewind]

As one of the people in question (I likened Stevie's voice to Elmer Fudd), I can say I used that description because it was the best thing I could think of to match what her voice sounds like to me. Although some people may have found this insulting (why, i don't know... after all it was directed at Stevie, and as far as I know, she isn't a Ledgie) that really wasn't the intention. I've seen many rather insulting things being stated on these boards about my favorite, Lindsey Buckingham - but rather than getting all upset about it, I either ignore the post or calmly express my disagreement. It seems the logical thing to do. :wavey:


Again, I think people can say whatever they want about anything they want. I am not the censure police :laugh: I just think that people know when they say things like Stevie sounds like Elmer Fudd that other people are going to get upset. Whether they should get upset is not the point. The point is if you know that comments like that are going to upset people, why make them when you could just as easily express the point is milder tones. it is called taking the higher road because two wrongs (the other wrong being the same heightened lang. used against LB) do not make a right :shrug:

Then again, if all "camps" would get over the fact that everything we say essentially meaningless, fewer arguments would exist :shrug: Translated - do no take the bait :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I particularly love how she talked of using cough drops to help her voice. That **** doesn't do anything. :laugh: And those moisture machines she used? They probably worked for the first song, but that's it. Any singer worth their salt knows that if you want to loosen up your voice, you down a couple tablespoons of olive oil.

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them :cool:

[Miss Vicky]

Well, talk to him about it as he seems to love her and her performances - in fact, he loves them so much he invited her to be on his solo soundstage performace which I attended - Interestingly, he did not invite John and Mick who were also in Chicago at the time :shrug: So, apparently, the pacakge deal is not in total demise - much to your apparent chagrin :laugh:

Tone - jovial - not snarky :cool:

I know, I was none too thrilled when I found out about his "special guest." Ugh. :rolleyes:

And as much as I'd love to talk to Lindsey, if I ever got the chance I suspect that the subject of Stevie would be the last thing that would come to my mind to discuss.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them :cool:

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

[strandinthewind]

I would hardly call that weeping. :laugh: What rank spin!


Then you need to learn the def. of weep :wavey:

Main Entry: weep
Pronunciation: 'wEp
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): wept /'wept/; weep·ing
Etymology: Middle English wepen, from Old English wEpan; akin to Old High German wuoffan to weep, Old Church Slavonic vabiti to call to
transitive senses
1 : to express deep sorrow for usually by shedding tears : BEWAIL
2 : to pour forth (tears) from the eyes
3 : to exude (a fluid) slowly : OOZE
intransitive senses
1 : to express passion (as grief) by shedding tears
2 a : to give off or leak fluid slowly : OOZE b of a fluid : to flow sluggishly or in drops
3 : to droop over : BEND

http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=weep&x=14&y=12

He started crying and wipe his eyes, when he could not stop the tears, he left the camera's read. Thus, he wept. But, if you want to use cry instead of weep - I am all for that too as the point was he was upset.

[amber]

I know, I was none too thrilled when I found out about his "special guest." Ugh. :rolleyes:

And as much as I'd love to talk to Lindsey, if I ever got the chance I suspect that the subject of Stevie would be the last thing that would come to my mind to discuss.
I hope you'd be up for discussing "cycles", etc. Oh, and I hope you'd be up for sifting through his words to find the point. :lol:

[strandinthewind]

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

That works very well too - but zinc works the best as far as I am concerned. I have gone from being unable to speak outside of a hoarse whisper to full voice with zinc.

[dissention]

Then you need to learn the def. of weep :wavey:

Main Entry: weep
Pronunciation: 'wEp
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): wept /'wept/; weep·ing
Etymology: Middle English wepen, from Old English wEpan; akin to Old High German wuoffan to weep, Old Church Slavonic vabiti to call to
transitive senses
1 : to express deep sorrow for usually by shedding tears : BEWAIL
2 : to pour forth (tears) from the eyes
3 : to exude (a fluid) slowly : OOZE
intransitive senses
1 : to express passion (as grief) by shedding tears
2 a : to give off or leak fluid slowly : OOZE b of a fluid : to flow sluggishly or in drops
3 : to droop over : BEND

http://www.merriamwebster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=weep&x=14&y=12

He started crying and wipe his eyes, when he could not stop the tears, he left the camera's read. Thus, he wept. But, if you want to use cry instead of weep - I am all for that too as the point was he was upset.

You need to watch the DVD again. :wavey: He welled-up, sure, but weep he did not.

[dissention]

Cough Drops contianing zinc can allow you to sing when you cannot. I know - I have used them :cool:

She doesn't seem to have the knowledge to have sought out those particular drops, I'm sure she went straight for the Vicks. :laugh:

[Miss Vicky]

I hope you'd be up for discussing "cycles", etc. Oh, and I hope you'd be up for sifting through his words to find the point. :lol:

I have no trouble finding the point in his statements. The main point of course being "I'm going to keep giving interviewers the same rehearsed answers everytime and say the same speeches at concerts everytime because it's really none of their business how I really feel about it."

Although he did seem rather candid on Charlie Rose when asked what the worst times in his life have been. His answer: "Fleetwood Mac." The meaning in that seems crystal clear if you ask me.

[dissention]

Gargle salt water. That is the recommended thing to do.

I've tried that and all it does, for me at least, is soothe my sore throat. Doesn't help me to sing much. I like to drink a little orange juice and then down a little olive oil. Works amazingly.

[strandinthewind]

. . . And to this a really potentially insulting joke comes to mind, but out of respect for the thin-skinned Stevie-ites among us, I'll refrain. :rolleyes:

So much for being respectful :laugh: not to mention hypocritcal because in general most LB campers are just as thin skinned :shrug: I mean I know of no Chiffonhead who does not readily accept that La Nicks' voice is lower and her range smaller. I know of no Chiffonhead who does not readily accept that La Nicks shows fewer energetic outbursts onstage than she used to - I submit a significant part of that was the menopause and the injured hip - but then again I am a big ole softy I guess :laugh: It is the constant hammering that gets old. But, if it makes people feel better to disparage her at every chance (I think mostly to encite - but again that is just my opinion) - so be it.

[amber]

I have no trouble finding the point in his statements. The main point of course being "I'm going to keep giving interviewers the same rehearsed answers everytime and say the same speeches at concerts everytime because it's really none of their business how I really feel about it."

Although he did seem rather candid on Charlie Rose when asked what the worst times in his life have been. His answer: "Fleetwood Mac." The meaning in that seems crystal clear if you ask me.
yeah, probably the worst times in all their lives occurred during FM - they were in the band for a good chunk of their adult lives. I love Lindsey, but I kept cringing during Destiny Rules at the way he was talking. Course, his speaking voice is a little high for my tastes. :lol: But I think he often sounds pretentious, condescending, and a bit whiny, even when he is making a good point.

[strandinthewind]

You need to watch the DVD again. :wavey: He welled-up, sure, but weep he did not.

So, when her wipes his eyes, he was instead picking his nose :laugh: Come on - he cried because he loves working with Stevie that much :shrug: It is okay to admit that :laugh:

[estranged4life]

I've tried that and all it does, for me at least, is soothe my sore throat. Doesn't help me to sing much. I like to drink a little orange juice and then down a little olive oil. Works amazingly.

tea mixed with warm/hot honey, That will help yer throat...It worked for me!

[strandinthewind]

I have no trouble finding the point in his statements. The main point of course being "I'm going to keep giving interviewers the same rehearsed answers everytime and say the same speeches at concerts everytime because it's really none of their business how I really feel about it."

Although he did seem rather candid on Charlie Rose when asked what the worst times in his life have been. His answer: "Fleetwood Mac." The meaning in that seems crystal clear if you ask me.

Well, he also apparently has said or given the impression that were it not for FM, he and Stevie would be together both musically and romantically. So, there is that.

I think it just galls people who hate La Nicks to have to face the reality that LB considers her a major talent he enjoys working with and being around.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

tea mixed with warm/hot honey, That will help yer throat...It worked for me!

Yep, that's what I use.

[ontheEdgeof17]

So, when her wipes his eyes, he was instead picking his nose :laugh: Come on - he cried because he loves working with Stevie that much :shrug: It is okay to admit that :laugh:


He cried because his solo work went down the drain.

[Miss Vicky]

yeah, probably the worst times in all their lives occurred during FM - they were in the band for a good chunk of their adult lives. I love Lindsey, but I kept cringing during Destiny Rules at the way he was talking. Course, his speaking voice is a little high for my tastes. :lol: But I think he often sounds pretentious and condescending, even when he is making a good point.

Pretentious and condescending? He seemed more sincere than anything else to me, but I am just slightly biased. :D

[DrummerDeanna]

But I think he often sounds pretentious, condescending, and a bit whiny, even when he is making a good point.

I feel the same way - he totally has a condescending air about him - but it comes across more in interviews to me :o

[strandinthewind]

He cried because his solo work went down the drain.

and he was lamenting that he bought the toilet and pulled the handle :laugh:

[strandinthewind]

I feel the same way - he totally has a condescending air about him - but it comes across more in interviews to me :o

Careful now - only Nicks bashing allowed :laugh: LB is faultless and a victim - ONLY - no exceptions :laugh: (levity)

[ontheEdgeof17]

and he was lamenting that he bought the toilet and pulled the handle :laugh:


:lol: Then he had to sell the toilet because he JUST HAD to have an 18 track CD, and only being paid for 12.

[strandinthewind]

:lol: Then he had to seel the toilet because he JUST HAD to have an 18 track CD, and only being paid for 12.


ah the trials and tribulations of being a talented genious amongst peons who serve no purpose but to support you :laugh: :laugh:

For the weak of heart, this is a joke :cool:

[DrummerDeanna]

Careful now - only Nicks bashing allowed :laugh: LB is faultless and a victim - ONLY - no exceptions :laugh: (levity)

:laugh: I know I'm totally walking on thin ice here....but I really don't dislike any of em' not even Mick....but Lindsey does come across as quite popmous is many interviews :D

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Beautiful Child is the ONLY song she can sing well these days. She croaks everything else. Have you seen Live In Boston? I was there and thought it was phenomenal, but then I saw the DVD and realized just how dull and vocally uninspired she really was for most of it. Say You Will is simply unbearable on it, that vocal is horrifying.

Her new material does nothing for me. It's uninspired and lazy to these ears. She's still capable of hitting it out of the park (the song TISL, for example), but for some reason she chooses not to. Scribbling inane mumbo jumbo in your journal does not a good song make.

Oh wait, she does also sound great (IMO) on Stand Back! The Live version from Boston is my fav. of the song...EVER!

[ontheEdgeof17]

:laugh: I know I'm totally walking on thin ice here....but I really don't dislike any of em' not even Mick....but Lindsey does come across as quite popmous is many interviews :D


I dunno what is worse...him saying the same thing over and over or looking like death warmed over on the AMAs. I know it was a late night that night, but at least smile.

[Miss Vicky]

I think it just galls people who hate La Nicks to have to face the reality that LB considers her a major talent he enjoys working with and being around.

No, it doesn't gall me. LB considers many people-- whom I have little or no respect for-- major talents. Radiohead, for example, puts me to sleep more readily than most music. And Vanessa Carlton? I assume he considers her talented if he agreed to work with her, but I can't tell her apart from Michelle Branch or half the other new "artists" out there.
As much as I respect and admire his ability as a musician, I don't put much stock in what he considers talent.

[dissention]

tea mixed with warm/hot honey, That will help yer throat...It worked for me!

I hardly ever get to the point where I can't sing because I know how to sing properly and take care of my voice, but honey and tea only soothes my voice, doesn't really open it up and loosen it much. Spinach does, though, but I hate spinach.

[wondergirl9847]

but Lindsey does come across as quite popmous is many interviews :D

Geniuses usually are. ;)

[Brwn_eyes0511]

No, it doesn't gall me. LB considers many people-- whom I have little or no respect for-- major talents. Radiohead, for example, puts me to sleep more readily than most music. And Vanessa Carlton? I assume he considers her talented if he agreed to work with her, but I can't tell her apart from Michelle Branch or half the other new "artists" out there.
As much as I respect and admire his ability as a musician, I don't put much stock in what he considers talent.

Michelle Branch = BAD

Vanessa Carlton = GREAT (better pianist than singer, but still awesome)

[dissention]

I feel the same way - he totally has a condescending air about him - but it comes across more in interviews to me :o

At least he doens't come across as a flighty airhead. :o

[ontheEdgeof17]

Spinach does, though, but I hate spinach.


After mushrooms, spinach is my fav veggie. Actually, I just ate a spinach and mushroom personal pizza.

[DrummerDeanna]

Michelle Branch = BAD

Vanessa Carlton = GREAT (better pianist than singer, but still awesome)

You have that completely backwards...Vanessa Carlton is not so great - in fact she's got this HORRIBLE Time Warner commercial out right - her voice is painfully bad in that commercial....

[dissention]

Oh wait, she does also sound great (IMO) on Stand Back! The Live version from Boston is my fav. of the song...EVER!

Eh, no thanks. She's straining on that one. I like the Storytellers version the best.

[Miss Vicky]

ah the trials and tribulations of being a talented genious amongst peons who serve no purpose but to support you :laugh: :laugh:

For the weak of heart, this is a joke :cool:

Am now regretting holding back earlier on my Stevie joke. Who's the hypocrit now?

[DrummerDeanna]

At least he doens't come across as a flighty airhead. :o

I like the flighty airhead better - :o - again it's all about preferences :)

[dissention]

Geniuses usually are. ;)

:woohoo:

:xoxo::xoxo:

Score!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Eh, no thanks. She's straining on that one. I like the Storytellers version the best.

I've always managed to miss the storytellers version!!!! URGH!

How is it performed, because Storytellers is very laid back!!

Do you have an mp3 you could share with me?

[dissention]

I like the flighty airhead better - :o - again it's all about preferences :)

I don't, I think the woman-child schtick is incredibly dated. But, you're right, it's all preference. :woohoo:

[DrummerDeanna]

I don't, I think the woman-child schtick is incredibly dated. But, you're right, it's all preference. :woohoo:

Ah - yeah - I LOVE it - lol.....I find her cute and amusing...but again I'm a die-hard Stevie loyalist :D

[dissention]

I've always managed to miss the storytellers version!!!! URGH!

How is it performed, because Storytellers is very laid back!!

Do you have an mp3 you could share with me?

I'm sure I have it here in this mess of CDs somewhere, I'll look for it later. :angel:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Ah - yeah - I LOVE it - lol.....I find her cute and amusing...but again I'm a die-hard Stevie loyalist :D


:xoxo: :D :xoxo: :D :xoxo:


ME, TOO.

[DrummerDeanna]

:xoxo: :D :xoxo: :D :xoxo:


ME, TOO.

Horray :wavey: :blob1: :blob2:

[estranged4life]

I hardly ever get to the point where I can't sing because I know how to sing properly and take care of my voice, but honey and tea only soothes my voice, doesn't really open it up and loosen it much. Spinach does, though, but I hate spinach.

especially spinach/artichoke quesadillas...Yum!

Nothing can help my throat as of late (Had another choking attack last night) except for another surgery, Which seems inevitable :(

Brian "Arizona Green Tea w/Ginseng & Honey is great :nod: " j.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

I'm sure I have it here in this mess of CDs somewhere, I'll look for it later. :angel:

K thanks that would be great! I would love to hear it!!!

[Miss Vicky]

Ah - yeah - I LOVE it - lol.....I find her cute and amusing...but again I'm a die-hard Stevie loyalist :D

Cute and amusing? If you say so... :rolleyes:

But then again, the things I find cute and amusing probably irritate other Ledgies... :nod:

Like when Lindsey runs around onstage, jumping up and down, flailing his arms around, chasing Stevie, harrassing John, to the point where I almost wonder if he suffers from adult ADHD (and yes I know it's staged and he did it at every show - I went to three of them.)

[strandinthewind]

Eh, no thanks. She's straining on that one. I like the Storytellers version the best.

I think that of the period of the "new" voice - the Enchanted tour shines like a beacon.

[estranged4life]

Eh, no thanks. She's straining on that one. I like the Storytellers version the best.

the DVD I have of the performance of "Stand Back" from Storytellers smokes the LIB version in the dust...Though I prefer the "A Day in the Garden" version with Stevie shakin' her 2 birds of Rhiannon in a very sexy way, Definitely had my attention on that song!!! :thumbsup:

[strandinthewind]

Am now regretting holding back earlier on my Stevie joke. Who's the hypocrit now?


I think joking is fine - I often do it. But, I think people were not joking when saying things like croak, Elmer Fudd, etc. God is in the details darlin' :wavey: :wavey:

[strandinthewind]

. . . with Stevie shakin' her 2 birds of Rhiannon in a very sexy way . . . .

:nod: :nod: :nod:

:blob1: :blob2: :blob1: :blob2:

[DrummerDeanna]

OMG I LOVE Stevie's current vocals....I think my favorite have got to be on Smile At You :nod:

[strandinthewind]

OMG I LOVE Stevie's current vocals....I think my favorite have got to be on Smile At You :nod:

THAT is a GREAT example of her giving a great vocal - sadly, IMO the production is a little weak when compared to the fire of the older ones.