I bought Street Angel!

[markolas]

And I don't think it's totally dreadful or anything. :shrug:

She's doing more of a rock & roll thing here than on anything since Bella Donna.

The main issue I have with it is that most of the songs sound like they should've been released in 1990, not 1994. Blue Denim, Listen to the Rain, Love Is Like a River, and Kick It don't sound like anything I was listening to in 1994, at any rate. So, I can see why this album didn't do very well.

I have to say that I prefer the mixes of Destiny, Street Angel, and Rose Garden that appeared on Enchanted. Stripped down is definitely better.

There are some great songs on here, though. I love Greta and Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind. I've always loved Street Angel (the song). Docklands and Jane aren't nearly as bad as everyone here says they are. :laugh: They're actually pretty good songs. I also really like Just Like a Woman. She should do more Dylan covers! :nod:

So, yeah...not a horrible album, but not her best. I still like it better than The Wild Heart. :lol:

[GateandGarden]

I still like it better than The Wild Heart. :lol::eek: :eek:

Just kidding. :laugh:

Anyway, I agree that those songs sound better on the Enchanted box set, and I agree that some kind of have more of an earlier 90s sound than you would expect. I hadn't thought about it before you said that, but I agree. :nod:

[dissention]

You.Poor.Creature.

:laugh:

Why didn't you tell me you didn't have it? I would have sent you my copy for free. :cool:

[amber]

And I don't think it's totally dreadful or anything. :shrug:

She's doing more of a rock & roll thing here than on anything since Bella Donna.

The main issue I have with it is that most of the songs sound like they should've been released in 1990, not 1994. Blue Denim, Listen to the Rain, Love Is Like a River, and Kick It don't sound like anything I was listening to in 1994, at any rate. So, I can see why this album didn't do very well.

I have to say that I prefer the mixes of Destiny, Street Angel, and Rose Garden that appeared on Enchanted. Stripped down is definitely better.

There are some great songs on here, though. I love Greta and Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind. I've always loved Street Angel (the song). Docklands and Jane aren't nearly as bad as everyone here says they are. :laugh: They're actually pretty good songs. I also really like Just Like a Woman. She should do more Dylan covers! :nod:

So, yeah...not a horrible album, but not her best. I still like it better than The Wild Heart. :lol:
Glad you got it. I don't think it's bad either. Well, some songs i don't like, but - it's a nice rockin, pretty little album. My fave is Kick It, and Greta.
Congrats!

[NicksIllume]

Good for you! :thumbsup: I proudly own Street Angel.

[thepoetinmyhear]

Not to hijack this thread, but along the lines of stripped down enchanted versions vs. album versions: does anyone know the story? I remember reading somewhere that stevie-on-klonopin heard the album with the final mixes, then managed to get off klonopin and hated the final mixes, she had them remixed and taken into further production (hence why she gets production credit on the album). Is there truth to this? Are the enchanted versions the original mixes?

Michael

and, of course, congrats on a fine purchase

[amber]

Not to hijack this thread, but along the lines of stripped down enchanted versions vs. album versions: does anyone know the story? I remember reading somewhere that stevie-on-klonopin heard the album with the final mixes, then managed to get off klonopin and hated the final mixes, she had them remixed and taken into further production (hence why she gets production credit on the album). Is there truth to this? Are the enchanted versions the original mixes?

Michael

and, of course, congrats on a fine purchase
that story has been widely reported on this board, so imagine that's the case. I don't know all the little details, but someone does. I think you got it about right...

[Moony]

Do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash.

:angel:

[strandinthewind]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

so HARSH you guys :distress:

I like SA. I LOVE Destiny and I really like Jane, SA (the song), and MLWCYM

But, not everyone likes the same thing :cool:

[amber]

Do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash.

:angel:
Moonelah! No! If he throws it in the trash, then how can he "Kick It"? :distress: you know, some prefer to kick it! :laugh: :p
Love,
H.
and don't try to use the Angel emoticon to justify... :lol:

[GateandGarden]

and don't try to use the Angel emoticon to justify... :lol:It doesn't automatically make everything okay? :laugh:

[Moony]

Moonelah! No! If he throws it in the trash, then how can he "Kick It"? :distress: you know, some prefer to kick it! :laugh: :p
Love,
H.
and don't try to use the Angel emoticon to justify... :lol:

Ok Ok I admit, Kick It is not bad. And actually, I kind of like Greta & Jane :shocked:

Other than that...UGH.

And I'll use :angel: whenever I please..cause I am one. :p

[GateandGarden]

And I'll use :angel: whenever I please..cause I am one. :p:xoxo:

"Jane" has that chimpaneze thing, though. :shrug: I can't recover from that. :sorry:

[Moony]

:xoxo:

"Jane" has that chimpaneze thing, though. :shrug: I can't recover from that. :sorry:

lmao

I employ my selective hearing during that song. :woohoo:

[GateandGarden]

lmao

I employ my selective hearing during that song. :woohoo:Ah, I see. It's what one uses when phony ponies come around. Actually, I don't mind the phony ponies as much as some do.

[amber]

Ok Ok I admit, Kick It is not bad. And actually, I kind of like Greta & Jane :shocked:

Other than that...UGH.

And I'll use :angel: whenever I please..cause I am one. :p
ok! *Blasphemer* :laugh:
Aha! you admitted Kick It is not bad! :laugh:
It's ok, when you never visit, i'll never put that on.... :lol: :wavey:

[blinker12]

Not to hijack this thread, but along the lines of stripped down enchanted versions vs. album versions: does anyone know the story? I remember reading somewhere that stevie-on-klonopin heard the album with the final mixes, then managed to get off klonopin and hated the final mixes, she had them remixed and taken into further production (hence why she gets production credit on the album). Is there truth to this? Are the enchanted versions the original mixes?

OK, here's the whole Street Angel saga. I think it's been reported here several times before, but it bears repeating because it's so interesting. Most of this info comes from a 1994 radio interview Stevie did six months or so after Street Angel was released. In the interview she basically disowned the album.

The original producer on Street Angel was Glyn Johns; he began working on the project in 1992. He had a specific vision for the album. He wanted it to have an acoustic/country sound and told Stevie that her old friend Waddy Wachtel would NOT be coming in to play on the sessions. Struck speechless and still in her Klonopin haze, Stevie went along with his plan but hated the results she heard. There was little percussion and not much electric guitar. (I've always assumed "Inspiration" and "God's Garden," country-ish songs that didn't end up on the final album, give a real window into Johns' approach.)

He finished the album and returned to his native England. Two months later, Stevie went back into the studio for eight weeks (presumably with Thom Panunzio), this time with Waddy, Mike Campbell and Peter Michael (percussion) in tow. They added more guitars and remixed everything.

She was unhappy with her vocals, too, but left them mostly untouched. The time had come simply to give up and let the album go.

I'm pretty sure this was all before she kicked Klonopin. Her opinion of the album seems to have plummeted even further after rehab, though.

As for where the "Enchanted" mixes come from, I don't know. Maybe those songs were remixed specifically for the boxed set. Anyone?

[Hawkeye]

What's everyone prob wth Stevie singing about a freaking Chimpanzee. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I really like Jane, but LOVE Kick It, Docklands, Blue Denim, Street Angel, Love Is LIke a River and Just Like a Woman. The only song I hate is Unconditional Love.

[dissention]

Do yourself a favor and throw it in the trash.

:angel:

Amen. :thumbsup:

It's depressing to listen to, IMO. She just didn't give a damn and it showed.

[gldstwmn]

The original producer on the album (not Panunzio but I can't remember who it was)
I think it was Glyn Johns.

[dissention]

Then she kicked Klonopin, went back to the studio and was horrified by her vocals. She re-recorded some, but not as many as she wanted. Still not pleased with the album, she finally decided to stop tinkering and "let it go."

From what Stevie has said, she didn't redo any of the vocals. She gave an interview where she said that she messed with everything else, but completely ignored the awful vocals.

[amber]

Amen. :thumbsup:

It's depressing to listen to, IMO. She just didn't give a damn and it showed.
I disagree. I really don't think it's too terrible. I think there's salvageable material there. But then, I don't love Bella Donna, so what do I know? :rolleyes: :laugh: (there are exceptions. EO17 is fav. as is SDMHA. plus the one line where she goes "belladonna" in that low voice...)
This is me, fighting the powers of....NEGATOR! :lol: :wavey:

[blinker12]

Hey everyone, I found a transcript of the '94 radio interview where she talks about the album and edited my last post with the correct info. :)

[Johnny Stew]

It's depressing to listen to, IMO. She just didn't give a damn and it showed.

I don't think she necessarily "didn't give a damn"... I think she cared as much as she COULD care about anything during that period of time. It just didn't match her level of commitment prior to that or in the years since.

And it's funny, because I don't find that album or any of her material from that era to be depressing, because I think it's a great example of the human spirit pushing forth through adversity. You know what I mean?
I can almost hear in her voice that she's TRYING to get back to what she used to be. She's struggling in places, but there's still that glimmer of "The Stevie Of Old," who's scratching and clawing her way back.

Anyway... that's not a "defense of Stevie," it's just what I come away from the songs with. :)

[dissention]

I disagree. I really don't think it's too terrible. I think there's salvageable material there. But then, I don't love Bella Donna, so what do I know? :rolleyes: :laugh: (there are exceptions. EO17 is fav. as is SDMHA. plus the one line where she goes "belladonna" in that low voice...)
This is me, fighting the powers of....NEGATOR! :lol: :wavey:

The lack of passion or conviction that she puts into that train-wreck of an album is what ruins it for me. The material itself is awful at best (most of it was either written by someone else or pilfered from the RAL sessions), but if there was any emotion or power put into some of it, it would be tolerable. But as is? Bloody awful, IMO. She just sounds like she doesn't give a fiddler's fig. If Stevie Nicks can't sell the lines she's singing, she's not Stevie Nicks to me. And that is why I don't listen to it: it's not Stevie.

Just my opinion. :woohoo:

[dissention]

I don't think she necessarily "didn't give a damn"... I think she cared as much as she COULD care about anything during that period of time. It just didn't match her level of commitment prior to that or in the years since.

And it's funny, because I don't find that album or any of her material from that era to be depressing, because I think it's a great example of the human spirit pushing forth through adversity. You know what I mean?
I can almost hear in her voice that she's TRYING to get back to what she used to be. She's struggling in places, but there's still that glimmer of "The Stevie Of Old," who's scratching and clawing her way back.

Anyway... that's not a "defense of Stevie," it's just what I come away from the songs with. :)

Honestly, no, I don't know what you mean. That album epitomizes depression and a lack of interest for me. It is uncreative, boring, stiff, and a mess of bad production, writing, and singing. Her life sucked at that point and her music showed it. I've no use for it and take comfort in the fact that I'm not the only who dislikes it, Stevie herself does, too. :nod:

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but that's how I've felt since I was 14. As much of a fan of hers that I am, Street Angel is, without a doubt, one of the worst records I've ever heard in my life.

[amber]

The lack of passion or conviction that she puts into that train-wreck of an album is what ruins it for me. The material itself is awful at best (most of it was either written by someone else or pilfered from the RAL sessions), but if there was any emotion or power put into some of it, it would be tolerable. But as is? Bloody awful, IMO. She just sounds like she doesn't give a fiddler's fig. If Stevie Nicks can't sell the lines she's singing, she's not Stevie Nicks to me. And that is why I don't listen to it: it's not Stevie.

Just my opinion. :woohoo:
I don't think the songs turned out that bad. :shrug: I didn't know the whole backstory before i listened. I know you hate it though, i just don't think it turned out that bad. :shrug: and TBH, I can't believe you can't find anything redeamable (sp) on that album. But perhaps that's why you're the superhero that you are... :laugh: I find a lot of conviction in Kick It, and a few other songs.
But so be it. At least you bought it... :laugh: :xoxo: :wavey:

[Johnny Stew]

Honestly, no, I don't know what you mean. That album epitomizes depression and a lack of interest for me. It is uncreative, boring, stiff, and a mess of bad production, writing, and singing. Her life sucked at that point and her music showed it. I've no use for it and take comfort in the fact that I'm not the only who dislikes it, Stevie herself does, too. :nod:

Stevie hates that album because she hates that period of her life. That's understandable.
But I still think she's wrong to distance herself so far from it... it's not the horrible train wreck of an album you and so many other people make it out to be. It's an album of rather subdued, "no frills" songs, which are ultimately beautiful. And, at times I find it to be quite inspired.
To me, at least.

But, as with anything "Stevie," I'd never expect everyone to love it or appreciate it, because it's all a matter of taste.

I'm listening to it now, as a matter of fact, and enjoying it immensely... as usual. :D

[dissention]

I don't think the songs turned out that bad. :shrug: I didn't know the whole backstory before i listened. I know you hate it though, i just don't think it turned out that bad. :shrug: and TBH, I can't believe you can't find anything redeamable (sp) on that album. But perhaps that's why you're the superhero that you are... :laugh: I find a lot of conviction in Kick It, and a few other songs.
But so be it. At least you bought it... :laugh: :xoxo: :wavey:

I like Greta, Just Like A Woman, and some of Street Angel. ;)

But that's it.

[strandinthewind]

I like Greta, Just Like A Woman, and some of Street Angel. ;)

But that's it.

I think SA (the song) is beautifully written and paints a vivid picture :cool:

[Moony]

But, as with anything "Stevie," I'd never expect everyone to love it or appreciate it, because it's all a matter of taste.


Good point. You don't like The Wild Heart, if I remember correctly? And I think that's insane..lol. But, I'll respect your opinion.

But,..I'm with Dissention on this one. Almost everything about Steet Angel blows. There are a few songs I enjoy...but overall... horrible singing + production + writing = one horrible album.

[amber]

I like Greta, Just Like A Woman, and some of Street Angel. ;)

But that's it.
well, I'm glad you like those. I'm suprised you like just like a woman, but happy. That was my second fav. Of course, I like Bob, too, so...
ha, and i like Greta a lot.
that's why I don't buy many CD's, cause i usually only like 3-4-5 songs anyway. I hardly expect more (but i like it!).
So, I guess, you're about average when it comes to SA. :) Not too bad! I only like that many songs on most of Stevie's solo works :shrug:
"unlistenable songs, all the time...I wonder what Dissy would say..." :laugh:

[Johnny Stew]

Good point. You don't like The Wild Heart, if I remember correctly? And I think that's insane..lol. But, I'll respect your opinion.

Actually you don't remember correctly on that one, Danny... *lol*
I LOVE 'The Wild Heart,' and it's my favorite Stevie album. :nod: :D

'The Other Side Of The Mirror' is the one I have to be in the mood to listen to. Though, I have to say that when I AM in the mood to listen to it, I always enjoy it.

[Moony]

Actually you don't remember correctly on that one, Danny... *lol*
I LOVE 'The Wild Heart,' and it's my favorite Stevie album. :nod: :D

'The Other Side Of The Mirror' is the one I have to be in the mood to listen to. Though, I have to say that when I AM in the mood to listen to it, I always enjoy it.

Damn! The old age is already affecting me!

I think I need to start taking Ginsing (sp?)...Ginseg..? f*ck what the hell is it called...

[amber]

Oh, no...I don't want to know what I will be like in four years with my absent-minded ways!!! :wavey:
um, basically, you'll be like me...,. :lol:
I'm sure you'll have a strong command of utterly useless info... :laugh:

[Moony]

Oh, no...I don't want to know what I will be like in four years with my absent-minded ways!!! :wavey:

probably losing your car keys, cell phone, wallet, etc everyday like I do.

A few weeks ago I could not find my phone at all. I searched EVERYWHERE and called it about 27 times to see if I could hear it ringing. No luck. So I'm like screaming at my sisters & bro saying "ONE OF YOU TOOK IT I KNOW IT WHERE'SMYDAMNPHONE ETC.." so finally...I call it one more time. And my sister goes..wait..I can hear it...

Turns out it was in the hall closet. In my jacket. That I had worn that day. :rolleyes:

So yeah hopefully you don't get like me :lol: :laugh: :lol:

[joe]

I don't think she necessarily "didn't give a damn"... I think she cared as much as she COULD care about anything during that period of time. It just didn't match her level of commitment prior to that or in the years since.

I can almost hear in her voice that she's TRYING to get back to what she used to be.

I completely agree and I think the same thing when i listen to it. When i first heard the song "blue denim" on the radio i was excited cause it sounded more rock and roll and straightforward to me. And most of the album follows suit.

How can anyone say she sounds like she didn't give a damn? Some of those vocals are so feisty (sp?) and energetic. Listen to the endings of "blue denim" and "love is like a river". But yet she can still convict her melancholy
in "rose garden" and "destiny" (although i don't listen much to the latter).

:xoxo:

"Jane" has that chimpaneze thing, though. :shrug: I can't recover from that. :sorry:

yeah, "jane" doesn't do much for me either. i've tried to like it. i really think it's the actual music for me. it sounds cheezy. i'm sorry ms. goodall.

I still like it better than The Wild Heart. :lol:

i actually do too. i don't listen to TWH that much. It's not a bad album but just not one of my favorites. Maybe it's cause i heard it so much when it came out.


i could do without "jane", "just like a woman", and "listen to the rain". sorry, i love dylan but i just don't care for this version. I DO think they should have included, or replaced the songs above with "inspiration" and "god's garden."

still puzzled over why b-sides become such.

[markolas]

Good point. You don't like The Wild Heart, if I remember correctly? And I think that's insane..lol. But, I'll respect your opinion.

No, I'm the one who doesn't like The Wild Heart. :D I think most of it is cheesy.

[GardenStateGirlie]

You.Poor.Creature.

:laugh:

Why didn't you tell me you didn't have it? I would have sent you my copy for free. :cool:

I always said I wouldn't buy it unless it was a dollar. Well, about a year and a half ago I was at a little record shop called Tunes. It was in the dollar bin sooo I bought it :laugh: There are a few songs that I enjoy but it certainly is not my favorite album. Not much really catches my ear. It's lackluster, IMO.

[dissention]

Damn! The old age is already affecting me!

I think I need to start taking Ginsing (sp?)...Ginseg..? f*ck what the hell is it called...

Gingko. ;) :laugh:

[Kelly]

I thought it was very sad when Stevie admitted last year that she had not listened to Street Angel since it was released. I guess the one Irish fan then told her it was his favorite album and she said she did realize that it had some good points and she was going to go back to the hotel and listen to it. I find the album depressing because I know the backstory. I cannot listen to it without thinking about how Stevie was at that time in her life. That is why I do not like it , plus I am not a fan of most of the songs in general. The only songs I like are Destiny, Rose Garden and Blue Denim. The first two were written in the seventies and Blue Denim is about Lindsey and most of the time she writes compelling lyrics when she is writing about him. Other than that, the album is really awful IMHO. It is just really sad to think that Stevie has distanced herself so much from that album that she can't even listen to it.
Anyway, the album signifies a bad time in her life. You can see the decline of her work and it hits rock bottom with Street Angel. Looking back, it really gives me perspective into her pain and struggles during those eight years. I am relieved and thankful she made it through those years, relatively unscathed. I guess Street Angel will always be a reminder to Stevie of how bad things can really get. On the other hand, it can also be a reminder to her of how far she has come, how many demons she has battled successfully. She is one strong lady and I admire the fact that she talks about those years in hopes that she may help someone else.
That takes alot of courage.

[dissention]

well, I'm glad you like those. I'm suprised you like just like a woman, but happy. That was my second fav. Of course, I like Bob, too, so...
ha, and i like Greta a lot.
that's why I don't buy many CD's, cause i usually only like 3-4-5 songs anyway. I hardly expect more (but i like it!).
So, I guess, you're about average when it comes to SA. :) Not too bad! I only like that many songs on most of Stevie's solo works :shrug:
"unlistenable songs, all the time...I wonder what Dissy would say..." :laugh:

Solo Stevie is an acquired taste, IMO. It takes a lot of determination and a strong stomach to have stuck with Stevie as practically each album got a bit lower in quality than the last. I was ready to bail with Street Angel, no lie. Love her with the Mac, trepidacious when it comes to her solo music. RAL and SA are just unbearable to me. When she's good, she's really good (Wild Heart, most of Trouble In Shangri-La, Bella Donna, etc.). I can't stand the production on the Mirror album, but the material was so good for the most part that I love it anyways. I think not being in a band atmosphere compromises her judgement when it comes to what's good and what isn't, but that's just me.

[dissention]

I thought it was very sad when Stevie admitted last year that she had not listened to Street Angel since it was released. I guess the one Irish fan then told her it was his favorite album and she said she did realize that it had some good points and she was going to go back to the hotel and listen to it. I find the album depressing because I know the backstory. I cannot listen to it without thinking about how Stevie was at that time in her life. That is why I do not like it , plus I am not a fan of most of the songs in general. The only songs I like are Destiny, Rose Garden and Blue Denim. The first two were written in the seventies and Blue Denim is about Lindsey and most of the time she writes compelling lyrics when she is writing about him. Other than that, the album is really awful IMHO. It is just really sad to think that Stevie has distanced herself so much from that album that she can't even listen to it.
Anyway, the album signifies a bad time in her life. You can see the decline of her work and it hits rock bottom with Street Angel. Looking back, it really gives me perspective into her pain and struggles during those eight years. I am relieved and thankful she made it through those years, relatively unscathed. I guess Street Angel will always be a reminder to Stevie of how bad things can really get. On the other hand, it can also be a reminder to her of how far she has come, how many demons she has battled successfully. She is one strong lady and I admire the fact that she talks about those years in hopes that she may help someone else.
That takes alot of courage.

Very well put. :wavey:

[GardenStateGirlie]

I thought it was very sad when Stevie admitted last year that she had not listened to Street Angel since it was released. I guess the one Irish fan then told her it was his favorite album and she said she did realize that it had some good points and she was going to go back to the hotel and listen to it. I find the album depressing because I know the backstory. I cannot listen to it without thinking about how Stevie was at that time in her life. That is why I do not like it , plus I am not a fan of most of the songs in general. The only songs I like are Destiny, Rose Garden and Blue Denim. The first two were written in the seventies and Blue Denim is about Lindsey and most of the time she writes compelling lyrics when she is writing about him. Other than that, the album is really awful IMHO. It is just really sad to think that Stevie has distanced herself so much from that album that she can't even listen to it.

Anyway, the album signifies a bad time in her life. You can see the decline of her work and it hits rock bottom with Street Angel. Looking back, it really gives me perspective into her pain and struggles during those eight years. I am relieved and thankful she made it through those years, relatively unscathed. I guess Street Angel will always be a reminder to Stevie of how bad things can really get. On the other hand, it can also be a reminder to her of how far she has come, how many demons she has battled successfully. She is one strong lady and I admire the fact that she talks about those years in hopes that she may help someone else.
That takes alot of courage.

I remember the retelling of that story and it really is incredibly sad. IMO, much of that album was her grasping for air when she realized she was sinking both in life and as an artist. She was more than likely so down on herself and knew she had to put out an album as per her contract so she just did what she could to keep herself together and pay her dues. Point being, when many were about to "bail" on Street Angel, so was she. Well said, Kel.

[markolas]

Solo Stevie is an acquired taste, IMO. It takes a lot of determination and a strong stomach to have stuck with Stevie as practically each album got a bit lower in quality than the last. I was ready to bail with Street Angel, no lie. Love her with the Mac, trepidacious when it comes to her solo music. RAL and SA are just unbearable to me. When she's good, she's really good (Wild Heart, most of Trouble In Shangri-La, Bella Donna, etc.). I can't stand the production on the Mirror album, but the material was so good for the most part that I love it anyways. I think not being in a band atmosphere compromises her judgement when it comes to what's good and what isn't, but that's just me.

Meh...

I prefer her solo. RAL and OSOTM are my favorites, so I think that (coupled with the fact that Sable on Blond *woof* is your favorite song :p ;) ) says a lot about our differences in taste. :)

Personally, I'm beginning to think that Stevie might be being a bit of a drama queen when she talks about how terrible Street Angel is. I think a lot (most?) of it sounds horribly dated for 1994, and that's why it didn't sell. But I don't think it's the train wreck everyone else seems to think it is.

But like I say, RAL and OSOTM are my favorite Stevie albums, so maybe you can't go by me. :D

[dissention]

Meh...

I prefer her solo. RAL and OSOTM are my favorites, so I think that (coupled with the fact that Sable on Blond *woof* is your favorite song :p ;) ) says a lot about our differences in taste. :)

Not favorite, but one of them. :p

I just don't care for a lot of her material on her albums. She couldn't pick a good cover tune if it flew up and bit her in the ass. The absence of Lindsey and everyone else results in us getting stuck with turds like That Made Me Stronger, Too Far From Texas, Unconditional Love, Fire Burning, and so on. But, then again, we did get Silver Girl, When I See You Again, Seven Wonders, and Welcome To the Room, so...:laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Fire Burning, and so on.



What's wrong with this song? Good lyrics. Good music. Good tone.





Sorry, I missed the Street Angel thread.....I could praise it all day! :wavey:

[GateandGarden]

What's wrong with this song? Good lyrics. Good music. Good tone.Yeah, say what you want about the other ****ty ones (though I am a bit of a fan of "That Made Me Stronger" :nod: ), but lay off "Fire Burning," man. What's wrong with "Fire Burning"??? :laugh:

[Hawkeye]

hate to agree withissention, but I dislike Fire Burning imensely too.

[Christopher]

Everytime A Street Angel thread comes up...These same old long diatribes arise....(yawn)
well all this controversy must mean the cd is worth talking about! ;)

Aside from us being somewhat skewed by what Stevie herself has said about this body of work (bear in mind, it was said in the "drama of the moment") and directly after it was apparent the CD had no chance in hell of being a success....

This CD was dated before it ever hit the streets in June 1994....Stevie wasnt on the pulse of music at that time. (Stone Temple Pilots, grunge rock etc..) So you could argue it was her choice of producers (Glyn Johns)-who was a has been from the 70's... or even her choice in collaboraters or lack therin.

In the early days Stevie was instinctive and knew what she liked and collaborated with the best of that time (Tom Petty and Prince) being prime examples...

So aside from the Street Angel being dated for 1994....more importantly the project lacked vision and cohesiveness.....the songs individually are not terribly bad (except maybe unconditional love and that chimpanze line...although the acoustic demo of UL is actually moving stripped down)...so it really does come down to execution here.

With TISL, Stevie bounced back amazingly to form, She had the vision and the instincts of past, the cd sounded fresh and contemporary and she once again collaborated with the best of that time - Hopefully she will be matched with some formidable collaborators on her next project.

[markolas]

This CD was dated before it ever hit the streets in June 1994....Stevie wasnt on the pulse of music at that time. (Stone Temple Pilots, grunge rock etc..) So you could argue it was her choice of producers (Glyn Johns)-who was a has been from the 70's... or even her choice in collaboraters or lack therin.

Like I said, this really is the only huge problem I see with the album (and it is a big one).

Although, I'm not sure Stevie should have tried her hand at grunge rock. Still, there were a lot of great female artists at the time (Lisa Loeb, Melissa Etheridge, Sheryl, etc.) that she could have taken a cue from.

There are a few songs that sound sort of with the time, but the big rock numbers (Love Is Like a River, Blue Denim, etc.) sound like they escaped from a Lita Ford album.

[ontheEdgeof17]

hate to agree withissention, but I dislike Fire Burning imensely too.

You are the worst typer! :lol: :laugh:

[ontheEdgeof17]

Good point. You don't like The Wild Heart, if I remember correctly? And I think that's insane..lol. But, I'll respect your opinion.



That would be me. I like the songs, but just not all on the same album.same goes for OSTOM. They are both downers, IMO. Here's the order I like the albums (not including Enchated and Timespace).

Street Angel
TISL
Rock A Little
Bella Donna
Wild Heart
OSTOM

[blinker12]

Still, there were a lot of great female artists at the time (Lisa Loeb, Melissa Etheridge, Sheryl, etc.)

Come on... as mediocre as Street Angel is, it's not as awful as Lisa Loeb! :)