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estranged4life
11-02-2004, 11:26 PM
I am way too drunk for me or my stomach to handle this.

At least I got to see a little bit of Alan Keyes' psycho gesticulation and Bible pontification.

the Senate thread:

Is Keyes high or just incredibly stupid???

He was so full-uv-it that my 2 cats laying on the bed starting to laugh out loud at him!

What a 'tard!

Brian j.

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:26 PM
Reports of voter harrassment and people still in line in Ohio.

ontheEdgeof17
11-02-2004, 11:27 PM
Can we give Florida back to Spain? -_-


I tried. Guess I don't have enough pull. I'll give ABBA a call.....maybe Sweden will take it.

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:27 PM
Can we give Florida back to Spain? -_-

No. We just need to rid them of their pos governor.

estranged4life
11-02-2004, 11:28 PM
TK is a registered Dem. :shocked:

but they are giving him credit for helping pass a state issue, Which is BS!!! He didnt help for the issue to win...The greed of gambling profits for the horse racing community did that.

Brian j.

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
Update: Ohio polls to stay open until 12:00pm eastern.

Hawkeye
11-02-2004, 11:29 PM
Where's Dissention in all of this. I bet he's in a small dark room with candles lit chanting and praying to a god he doesn't believe in, and stucking pins in a Bush doll :laugh:

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:34 PM
Where's Dissention in all of this. I bet he's in a small dark room with candles lit chanting and praying to a god he doesn't believe in, and stucking pins in a Bush doll :laugh:

I was just wondering that myself.

ontheEdgeof17
11-02-2004, 11:36 PM
I gotta get to bed. I hope I can sleep... :rolleyes:

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
I gotta get to bed. I hope I can sleep... :rolleyes:


Go get some rest. :cool:

estranged4life
11-02-2004, 11:37 PM
says Ohio wont be known for another hour and a half, But heres their latest numbers:

63% reporting
Kerry 1,654,014
Bush 1,783,987

Damn this is giving me a headache...

Brian j.

GateandGarden
11-02-2004, 11:38 PM
I was just wondering that myself.Yeah, where is he? I know he's not praying! :laugh:

Hillary

ontheEdgeof17
11-02-2004, 11:40 PM
Iowa, WI, and that area are now leaning towards Kerry......if you check out yahoo.com's map.

strandinthewind
11-02-2004, 11:42 PM
U.S. PRESIDENT / FLORIDA

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
3,587,044 52% 0
Kerry
3,261,373 47% 0
Nader
30,198 1% 0
Badnarik
10,801 0% 0
Peroutka
6,173 0% 0
Cobb
4,030 0% 0
Brown
3,369 0% 0
Harris
2,635 0% 0

97% precincts reporting - Updated 11:39 p.m. ET

cnn.com

ontheEdgeof17
11-02-2004, 11:43 PM
My bedtime prediction: Bush with 271 ECV. :distress: :distress: :distress:




.......I'm praying that I am wrong

strandinthewind
11-02-2004, 11:44 PM
U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
1,833,998 52% 0
Kerry
1,705,873 48% 0
Badnarik
9,437 0% 0
Peroutka
7,631 0% 0

64% precincts reporting - Updated 11:41 p.m. ET

cnn.com

strandinthewind
11-02-2004, 11:46 PM
Iowa, WI, and that area are now leaning towards Kerry......if you check out yahoo.com's map.

Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are all leaning toward Kerry and significantly so, which is a surprise IMO. That is, I think 44 electoral votes, which is HUGE IMO.

gldstwmn
11-02-2004, 11:46 PM
My bedtime prediction: Bush with 271 ECV. :distress: :distress: :distress:




.......I'm praying that I am wrong

It ain't over til it's over. Sleep well. Maybe we'll know something in the morning. :)

estranged4life
11-02-2004, 11:50 PM
Faux/NBC both brought up something that could possibly happen depending on if Kerry can win Ohio and a few other states and if Bush wins a few...The scenario they both explained could lead to a Kerry 269 Bush 269 electorial vote tie, Which would then go to the house for the vote that would decide the presidency, Which Bush would win since the Repubs have control of the House...

I do not want to see THAT happen.

Brian j.

strandinthewind
11-02-2004, 11:55 PM
U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
1,939,255 52% 0
Kerry
1,803,199 48% 0
Badnarik
10,282 0% 0
Peroutka
8,645 0% 0

68% precincts reporting - Updated 11:53 p.m. ET


from cnn.com

looks like W will take Ohio and, sadly, Florida. But, if Fla has not included all the early votes (which is unimagineable to me) then, it aint over.

estranged4life
11-02-2004, 11:59 PM
Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin are all leaning toward Kerry and significantly so, which is a surprise IMO. That is, I think 44 electoral votes, which is HUGE IMO.

144,000 in Minnesota :)

Latest from the major networks:

ABC
Bush 237
Kerry 188

NBC (I trust this one to be the most accurate)
Bush 207
Kerry 199

CBS (They must have been hangin' around Alan Keyes too damn much!!!)
Bush 246
Kerry 199

Faux (This looks like a pile of manure if ya asked me)
Bush 210
Kerry 144

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:03 AM
Okay, I'm coming out of lurkdom because I'm getting a glimmer of hope...

Washington has been called for Kerry (11 votes), bringing him up to 199.

Other states leaning Kerry's way:

Oregon - 7
Nevada - 5
Wisconsin - 7
Minnesota - 10
Iowa - 10
Michigan - 17
TOTAL: 56

If Kerry wins these states (and my math is correct) he's at 255! Only 15 more needed!

- Mary

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 12:04 AM
Stupid New Mexico...make up their minds already!!! I voted absentee there...

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:06 AM
Okay, I'm coming out of lurkdom because I'm getting a glimmer of hope...

Washington has been called for Kerry (11 votes), bringing him up to 199.

Other states leaning Kerry's way:

Oregon - 7
Nevada - 5
Wisconsin - 7
Minnesota - 10
Iowa - 10
Michigan - 17
TOTAL: 56

If Kerry wins these states (and my math is correct) he's at 255! Only 15 more needed!

- Mary

outta yer lurkdom...He may pull it off, But Kerry wins in Ohio/Flori-DUH would make it so much easier.

Maybe tonite...

Brian j.

ps-More updates-

NBC
Bush 207
Kerry 206 (!!!!)

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:09 AM
outta yer lurkdom...He may pull it off, But Kerry wins in Ohio/Flori-DUH would make it so much easier.

Maybe tonite...

Brian j.

Unless he pulls, as of now about 350,000 votes in Florida, which he has systematically been unable to do essentially all night, I cannot see Jerry winning in Florida even considering the alleged advance votes and the absentee ballots (again, the margin of W's win has stayed fairly much the same all night). As for Ohio, it is too soon to tell.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:09 AM
Faux/NBC both brought up something that could possibly happen depending on if Kerry can win Ohio and a few other states and if Bush wins a few...The scenario they both explained could lead to a Kerry 269 Bush 269 electorial vote tie, Which would then go to the house for the vote that would decide the presidency, Which Bush would win since the Repubs have control of the House...

I do not want to see THAT happen.

Brian j.
great, now i'm gonna have nightmares...

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:11 AM
He may pull it off, But Kerry wins in Ohio/Flori-DUH would make it so much easier.

Agreed! I've given up on Florida, but Ohio has my stomach churning.... my husband is from Ohio, and says voters there can be very unpredictable. Bush's current margin there makes me very nervous.

And some of Kerry's leads in the states I mentioned are still small. But at least it's hope!

- Mary

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:11 AM
I predict a) lawsuits, b) 4 more years of that scumbag Bush running this country into the ground, into debt, and continuing to turn us into an international laughing stock.

Pity, but I think it's going to happen. Evidently, that's what it will take for the idiots who support that bumbling jackass to wake up.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:11 AM
Okay, I'm coming out of lurkdom because I'm getting a glimmer of hope...

Washington has been called for Kerry (11 votes), bringing him up to 199.

Other states leaning Kerry's way:

Oregon - 7
Nevada - 5
Wisconsin - 7
Minnesota - 10
Iowa - 10
Michigan - 17
TOTAL: 56

If Kerry wins these states (and my math is correct) he's at 255! Only 15 more needed!

- Mary
ah, that's without Cali, right?

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:12 AM
I predict a) lawsuits, b) 4 more years of that scumbag Bush running this country into the ground, into debt, and continuing to turn us into an international laughing stock.

Pity, but I think it's going to happen. Evidently, that's what it will take for the idiots who support that bumbling jackass to wake up.

AND - sadly, that is well over half of the country right now :mad:

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:13 AM
CBS is giving Flori-DUH to Bush

Bush 246
Kerry 207

Kerry has to win Ohio according to CBS to become the president...

But I dont trust CBS...

NBC is showing Sean "Puff daddy doo piffy puffy duffy" Combs...I wonder if he'll sing the "Vote Or Die" song from "South Park"? :laugh:

Brian j.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:13 AM
CNN projects Bush will win Florida.

:mad:

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:14 AM
ah, that's without Cali, right?

No, they've already called that for Kerry.... CA is included in the 199 total. Otherwise, I'd be dancing in the streets right now, because California on top of even half of those other states would give it to Kerry!

- Mary

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:15 AM
AND - sadly, that is well over half of the country right now :mad:

They'll get what they deserve. Unfortunately, we'll all get it.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:16 AM
CBS is giving Flori-DUH to Bush

Bush 246
Kerry 207

Kerry has to win Ohio according to CBS to become the president...

But I dont trust CBS...



W has for the most part maintained his margin over Kerry this evening in Ohio to wit:


U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
2,154,140 51% 0
Kerry
2,027,229 48% 0
Badnarik
11,355 1% 0
Peroutka
9,692 0% 0

76% precincts reporting - Updated 12:11 a.m. ET

from cnn.com

So, I do not see Kerry winning Ohio and that saddens me.

I hate to say it, but I think Kerry has lost.

Oh well, maybe that a$$hole will give us $400 more dollars he can't afford to give us :mad:

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:16 AM
I predict a) lawsuits, b) 4 more years of that scumbag Bush running this country into the ground, into debt, and continuing to turn us into an international laughing stock.


here is my twist of yer post:

"I predict a) lawsuits, b) 4 more years of that scumbag Bush running this country into the ground, into debt, and BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!! (That was America blowing up under multiple mushroom clouds with the Biblical burning "Shrub" in office...)

Brian j.

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:17 AM
They'll get what they deserve. Unfortunately, we'll all get it.

In the meantime, maybe the rest of us should start a new thread on what country we're moving to if it does happen. I haven't made up my mind yet... any suggestions?

- Mary

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:18 AM
They'll get what they deserve. Unfortunately, we'll all get it.

I nknow - but they do not care. I cannot tell you how many people have told me they do not care if America is hated because W will protect us - or something similar to that. They do not care if we kill every Muslim in the world. They would actually like that. Finally, they want a theocracy and cannot understand why people do not follow Jesus - whatever that means. They make me sick.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:19 AM
In the meantime, maybe the rest of us should start a new thread on what country we're moving to if it does happen. I haven't made up my mind yet... any suggestions?

- Mary
Jamaica? Bali? :D

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:19 AM
In the meantime, maybe the rest of us should start a new thread on what country we're moving to if it does happen. I haven't made up my mind yet... any suggestions?

- Mary


I am not planning on moving. I still love my country. I guess. It's about 50% of the people I can't stand. That's all.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:19 AM
here is my twist of yer post:

"I predict a) lawsuits, b) 4 more years of that scumbag Bush running this country into the ground, into debt, and BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!! (That was America blowing up under multiple mushroom clouds with the Biblical burning "Shrub" in office...)

Brian j.

W wants the end days. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:19 AM
In the meantime, maybe the rest of us should start a new thread on what country we're moving to if it does happen. I haven't made up my mind yet... any suggestions?

- Mary

on Japan!!!!

Hey, I fit in the land of the Rising Sun, Just have to see all the hi-fi equipment I have to know that :)

Brian "Saya Nara" j.

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:20 AM
I nknow - but they do not care. I cannot tell you how many people have told me they do not care if America is hated because W will protect us - or something similar to that. They do not care if we kill every Muslim in the world. They would actually like that. Finally, they want a theocracy and cannot understand why people do not follow Jesus - whatever that means. They make me sick.

Jesus, Allah. WHATEVER. Same thing. A fanatic is a fanatic.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:22 AM
Jesus, Allah. WHATEVER. Same thing. A fanatic is a fanatic.

and half on America is fanatical - no doubt in my mind.

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 12:23 AM
W wants the end days. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

perhaps he is the anti-christ...that's crossed my mind a few times ;)

...I'm back from Democratic headquarters here...they won a few lost a few..I'm exhausted and there's no end in sight...

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:23 AM
I nknow - but they do not care. I cannot tell you how many people have told me they do not care if America is hated because W will protect us - or something similar to that. They do not care if we kill every Muslim in the world. They would actually like that. Finally, they want a theocracy and cannot understand why people do not follow Jesus - whatever that means. They make me sick.

now he would look at Bush and say the following:

"Dude, Are ya high or just ab-so-f**kin-lutely stupid??? It would take a miracle to make ya smart...Unfortunately I cannot do miracles on Chimps!"

Brian "George...George...George...George of Texas, Watch out for a Kerry Ohio WIN!!!!" j.

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:23 AM
W wants the end days. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

Of course he does. That would prove that he was right !

amber
11-03-2004, 12:24 AM
237 - Bush
206 - Kerry
Faux.

Sugar
11-03-2004, 12:24 AM
NBC just gave FL to Bush... :distress:

I'm so scared for our future...

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:24 AM
perhaps he is the anti-christ...that's crossed my mind a few times ;)

...I'm back from Democratic headquarters here...they won a few lost a few..I'm exhausted and there's no end in sight...

we Ledgies know the Anti-Christ is MY gig...Shrub can go be the Anti-Christ on Pluto or Uranus :lol:

Brian "T.A.C.I.T." j.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:25 AM
we Ledgies know the Anti-Christ is MY gig...Shrub can go be the Anti-Christ on Pluto or Uranus :lol:

Brian "T.A.C.I.T." j.
Is the anti crist the same as the devil? Because, if Devil isn't taken, chimp can certainly have that title...
Amber

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:26 AM
Of course he does. That would prove that he was right !

Did you read that article in the NY Times a few weeks ago (in the Sunday Mag. I think) where it went on and on about how significant R's think it is okay to freely spend the resources of the world because the end days are coming and who cares what we will need in 50 to 100 years. I know that sounds crazy, but the DOCUMENTED it. I do not have the article - but it sickened me.

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 12:27 AM
we Ledgies know the Anti-Christ is MY gig...Shrub can go be the Anti-Christ on Pluto or Uranus :lol:

Brian "T.A.C.I.T." j.

Oops....sorry, meant no disrespect there, anti-c....guess shrub is just a plain ole' evil idiot...:laugh:

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:27 AM
CNN projects Bush will win Montana and Colorado.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:28 AM
Did you read that article in the NY Times a few weeks ago (in the Sunday Mag. I think) where it went on and on about how significant R's think it is okay to freely spend the resources of the world because the end days are coming and who cares what we will need in 50 to 100 years. I know that sounds crazy, but the DOCUMENTED it. I do not have the article - but it sickened me.
Omigod, i knew it! F*****g bastards. Shortsighted greedy, pieces of sh**!!!
cause of course, they're the only ones on the f*****g planet! :mad:
I wish you had the article. guess i could find it with some research... :)

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:29 AM
Is the anti crist the same as the devil? Because, if Devil isn't taken, chimp can certainly have that title...
Amber

whatever...The same to me...Depends on what side of the bed I get out of :lol:

Maybe Chimp-Co can be the Anti-Christ on the Planets of the Apes :lol:

Brian j.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:29 AM
U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
2,229,971 51% 0
Kerry
2,100,293 48% 0
Badnarik
11,778 1% 0
Peroutka
10,239 0% 0

79% precincts reporting - Updated 12:24 a.m. ET

cnn.com

MERDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:29 AM
Did you read that article in the NY Times a few weeks ago (in the Sunday Mag. I think) where it went on and on about how significant R's think it is okay to freely spend the resources of the world because the end days are coming and who cares what we will need in 50 to 100 years. I know that sounds crazy, but the DOCUMENTED it. I do not have the article - but it sickened me.

This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They might as well be reading Grimm's Fairy Tales or Anne Rice books to guide themselves. Self fulfilling prophecy ? Methinks so.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:31 AM
whatever...The same to me...Depends on what side of the bed I get out of :lol:

Maybe Chimp-Co can be the Anti-Christ on the Planets of the Apes :lol:

Brian j.
Maybe he's about to be Charleton Heston when the whole world blows up... :confused:

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:34 AM
Maybe he's about to be Charleton Heston when the whole world blows up... :confused:

"Get yer paws off my NRA membership, my AK 47 & my 10 commandments ya filthy apes...Except for you Mr.Bush"

Brian j.

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:35 AM
CNN projects Republicans will retain control of the House of Representatives.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:35 AM
"Get yer paws off my NRA membership, my AK 47 & my 10 commandments ya filthy apes...Except for you Mr.Bush"

Brian j.
:laugh: :lol:
they'd be so sad...no one left to shoot or exploit...but actually, i think i was talking about a different movie, the one where...uh..

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 12:37 AM
W still consistently maintains about 120,000 lead in Ohio. Blech!

U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
2,308,194 51% 0
Kerry
2,180,849 49% 0
Badnarik
12,158 0% 0
Peroutka
10,602 0% 0

82% precincts reporting - Updated 12:33 a.m. ET

cnn.com

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:38 AM
:laugh: :lol:
they'd be so sad...no one left to shoot or exploit...but actually, i think i was talking about a different movie, the one where...uh..

Planets Of The Apes with The Ten Commandments when I think of Mr.Heston :)

Dont ask, My sense of humor is beyond this dimensional plane :lol:

Brian j.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:39 AM
Planets Of The Apes with The Ten Commandments when I think of Mr.Heston :)

Dont ask, My sense of humor is beyond this dimensional plane :lol:

Brian j.
But what's the movie where the Statue of Liberty is submerged? and everyone is dead? I'm totally feelin that right now. Liberty sure feels dead...

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 12:41 AM
If Bush wins (legitimately or illegitimately), I predict it's a matter of months until the next major terrorist attack on mainland U.S.A.

Wonder how many people will be re-thinking their vote after that.
And what a damned shame that it would have to take another catastrophe for people to realize what a detriment he's been to our country and our safety.

Keeping in mind that some brick-heads will STILL support him, even after that. God help me, but I'm starting to think CarneVaca was right... this country will practically have to be in utter ruins before the people of the good ol' U.S. of A. realize the error of their self-centeredness and arrogance.

"Faith is a hard thing to hold onto...."

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:41 AM
W still consistently maintains about 120,000 lead in Ohio. Blech!

U.S. PRESIDENT / OHIO

STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE VOTE % EV
Bush
(Incumbent)
2,308,194 51% 0
Kerry
2,180,849 49% 0
Badnarik
12,158 0% 0
Peroutka
10,602 0% 0

82% precincts reporting - Updated 12:33 a.m. ET

cnn.com

is if Kerry doesnt win Ohio Bush is 1 electoral vote away from victory...Which of course makes me think of the lil' skit on the Jon Stewart show tonight whereas Bush helps the recruitment of terrorist worldwide, Which is NOT funny!

If he wins...We're screwed!

Brian j.

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:42 AM
I am not planning on moving. I still love my country. I guess. It's about 50% of the people I can't stand. That's all.

I love my country too, but I don't think this will be the same country by the time Bush is finished.

Not only does it look like we're stuck with him for another 4 years, but so far 10 out of 11 states with the "gay marraige ban" amendment on their ballots voted to pass the amendment! And this jerk may get to appoint up to 3 Supreme Court justices... Roe v. Wade will be next!

I am so disgusted with those 50% of the people right now! This is what our country is becoming.... an intolerant, f*&k the rest of the world, rule by religion, laughing stock of the world! And I truly believe we are FAR less safe with that man in office for another 4 years. He can't even tell Osama Bin Laden from Saddam Hussein!

I feel like this country is turning into an Orwelian nightmare.....

My husband loves Portugal and would love to live there, so I think ... Portugal here we come!

- Mary

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 12:43 AM
They'll get what they deserve. Unfortunately, we'll all get it.

And unfortunately we don't deserve it.

Hawkeye
11-03-2004, 12:43 AM
Fox just called Ohio a Bush win! I think that's a little cocky of them. It's too close IMO

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:44 AM
But what's the movie where the Statue of Liberty is submerged? and everyone is dead? I'm totally feelin that right now. Liberty sure feels dead...

there's the serious one I think you're referring to which is Planets Of The Apes...

Then there's the one I refer to "SPACE BALLS"-

Ape #1-"What's that coming out of her nose?"

Ape #2-"It...looks...like Space Balls"

Ape #1-"Aw ****...There goes the planet"

Brian j.

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 12:45 AM
W wants the end days. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

Yup. :nod: We've got big problems.

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:46 AM
Faux just called Ohio a Bush win! I think that's a little cocky of them. It's too close IMO


Bush 266
Kerry 211

the chance of his winning is growing more certain :(

Time to go airline ticket price comparison for our tickets to Japan :)

Brian j.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:48 AM
is if Kerry doesnt win Ohio Bush is 1 electoral vote away from victory...Which of course makes me think of the lil' skit on the Jon Stewart show tonight whereas Bush helps the recruitment of terrorist worldwide, Which is NOT funny!

If he wins...We're screwed!

Brian j.
I don't get it, even with Cali? Which hasn't been counted? ****!

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:53 AM
I don't get it, even with Cali? Which hasn't been counted? ****!

I am flipping thru show that Kerry already has California Electoral votes, But he needs Ohio or otherwise Bush will need only 1 state to win...And Alaska is being rumored to be going to Bush which could push him over the 270 electoral votes he needs to win a majority.

Sad :(

Brian j.

stargazer99
11-03-2004, 12:53 AM
Did you read that article in the NY Times a few weeks ago (in the Sunday Mag. I think) where it went on and on about how significant R's think it is okay to freely spend the resources of the world because the end days are coming and who cares what we will need in 50 to 100 years. I know that sounds crazy, but the DOCUMENTED it. I do not have the article - but it sickened me.

I saw a special on CNN (i think) last weekend on some of these fanatical freaks who are hoping that the end is near so they and their children can experience it! And according to them, all they have to believe is that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, and they will go to heaven... and anyone that doesn't belive that will go to hell. So apparently, you can lie, cheat, steal and murder, but as long as you believe that Jesus is your Lord and Savior, you've got a free ticket to "paradise"!

CNN projects Republicans will retain control of the House of Representatives.

Okay, I'm getting my passport in order first thing tomorrow... so I'm ready to get the hell out of here!

- Mary

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 12:55 AM
Fox just called Ohio a Bush win! I think that's a little cocky of them. It's too close IMO

The mayor of Columbus Ohio was just on and says they are not finished counting the votes. There is also issue of the provisional ballots which have yet to be counted. This is going to the courts. Mark my words.

sparky
11-03-2004, 12:55 AM
If Bush wins (legitimately or illegitimately), I predict it's a matter of months until the next major terrorist attack on mainland U.S.A.
Wonder how many people will be re-thinking their vote after that.
And what a damned shame that it would have to take another catastrophe for people to realize what a detriment he's been to our country and our safety.

That's what it will take. And you know what the response will be ? "Oh, it's all God's plan."

Keeping in mind that some brick-heads will STILL support him, even after that. God help me, but I'm starting to think CarneVaca was right... this country will practically have to be in utter ruins before the people of the good ol' U.S. of A. realize the error of their self-centeredness and arrogance.

Of course that's what it will take. A two by four, embedded with a rusty nail, slammed into their foreheads.

"Faith is a hard thing to hold onto...."

"Faith", as it is commonly understood by the majority of this country, is the problem.

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 12:56 AM
With the numbers at this moment here is what could happen:

If Bush wins Ohio, He will be 1 Electoral vote short of a majority at 269 Electoral votes

If Kerry loses Ohio he will have to win all the remaining states and will end up with 269 Electoral votes

Kerry HAS to win OHIO!!! Has to...

Brian j.

amber
11-03-2004, 12:58 AM
With the numbers at this moment here is what could happen:

If Bush wins Ohio, He will be 1 Electoral vote short of a majority at 269 Electoral votes

If Kerry loses Ohio he will have to win all the remaining states and will end up with 269 Electoral votes

Kerry HAS to win OHIO!!! Has to...

Brian j.
uh, oh...I'm not sure he will. But i will will it to happen, right now. course, my will didn't work for Gropenator...

EnchantedSLN
11-03-2004, 12:58 AM
I know Florida has been called for Bush, but has anyone seen figures for how many early/absentee ballots have not been counted there yet? I read 1.6 million somewhere... that's a hasty call, if that number is accurate.

Sugar
11-03-2004, 12:59 AM
The mayor of Columbus Ohio was just on and says they are not finished counting the votes. There is also issue of the provisional ballots which have yet to be counted. This is going to the courts. Mark my words.

I'm not even sure Ohio is done voting yet... :eek:

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 12:59 AM
Cuyahoga County is winning for Kerry by 189835. Ballots are still being counted in urban counties. There are 125,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted. They will not be counted until November 12-15.

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 01:00 AM
Just gave OHIO & Alaska to Bush and are saying it all over now :(

Brian j.

Sugar
11-03-2004, 01:00 AM
NBC just called Ohio for Bush

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 01:01 AM
I know Florida has been called for Bush, but has anyone seen figures for how many early/absentee ballots have not been counted there yet? I read 1.6 million somewhere... that's a hasty call, if that number is accurate.

The 1.6 million number are early votes that supposedly have not yet been counted. I've hear anywhere between 90-250,000 absentee ballots. Add them together, there could be a very different outcome in Florida.

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 01:02 AM
"Faith", as it is commonly understood by the majority of this country, is the problem.

Faith isn't the problem... the perversion of religion is. :(

But, I know what you mean. You're meaning their concept of faith.

God save me from your followers.

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 01:08 AM
Faith isn't the problem... the perversion of religion is. :(

But, I know what you mean. You're meaning their concept of faith.

God save me from your followers.

true my friend...

Here is a song lyric that fits the perversion of religion:

"How can this be?
Why is he the chosen one

Saint gone astray
With a scepter and a gun

Learn to believe
In the mighty and the strong

Come bleed the beast
Follow me it won't be long

Listen when the prophet
Speaks to you
Killing in the name of God

Passion
Twisting faith into violence
In the name of God"-"In The Name Of God"-Dream Theater

Brian j.

amber
11-03-2004, 01:09 AM
The 1.6 million number are early votes that supposedly have not yet been counted. I've hear anywhere between 90-250,000 absentee ballots. Add them together, there could be a very different outcome in Florida.
Gosh, though, doesn't it seem like the people who voted early and all that would be repub?

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 01:11 AM
Gosh, though, doesn't it seem like the people who voted early and all that would be repub?

Exit polls have them breaking for Kerry, for what it's worth.

amber
11-03-2004, 01:16 AM
Ohio is at 51/49 :(

Moony
11-03-2004, 01:19 AM
Bush has 269 votes.

I don't know if I'm more a.) incredibly angry or b.) saddened by the idiocy of my fellow citizens.

:mad: :mad: :distress:

This blows.

Try and draft me and see what happens. :mad:

amber
11-03-2004, 01:22 AM
Bush has 269 votes.

I don't know if I'm more a.) incredibly angry or b.) saddened by the idiocy of my fellow citizens.

:mad: :mad: :distress:
Ah! it's a hard choice. i like to do the idiocy of fellow citizens, and then say that if we hadn't had so many repub presidents, our citizens would be less idiotic.
I swear, next time i want to travel to other states and make "disenfranchised" people register to vote...
cause you know, if all the poor and minority people voted, we would win... :cool:

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 01:30 AM
Bush has 269 votes.

I don't know if I'm more a.) incredibly angry or b.) saddened by the idiocy of my fellow citizens.

:mad: :mad: :distress:

This blows.

I'm angry and disappointed, but I can't say I'm truly surprised. So many people are convinced that Papa Bush is gonna protect us from the big, bad, unknown evils, that they didn't pay attention to the fact that he's eroding our country at a rapid pace.

Sadly, that fact will become nearly impossible to ignore in the coming months though.

Anyway, this is all disappointing, but it's just all the more reason why we need to continue our quest to improve this country, and get it out from under the thumbs of the war-mongering, job-outsourcing, economy-ruining, Bible-thumping hypocrites.
We have four years to work towards taking the NEXT election from the right-wing conservatives, and we better make the best of that time.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...."

GypsySorcerer
11-03-2004, 01:33 AM
Kerry isn't conceding Ohio.....so we won't know anything until tomorrow, at least. :wavey:

secondhandchain
11-03-2004, 01:36 AM
Isn't it funny the people who were most directly affected by 911 (New York and Washington DC) voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. The further away from cities you lived and the less educated you are, the more you voted for Bush.
I always find it strange that the more religious you are the more hate and intolerance you have. I am so sad right now.

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 01:40 AM
Isn't it funny the people who were most directly affected by 911 (New York and Washington DC) voted overwhelmingly for Kerry.

And, of course, one of the planes crashed here in PA, and our state went to Kerry, too.

I always find it strange that the more religious you are the more hate and intolerance you have. I am so sad right now.

It's assumed that the greatest of sins can be forgiven as long as you claim to be Jesus-loving and God-fearing.
Gonna be a lot of shocked people come Judgement Day, no? :)

amber
11-03-2004, 01:41 AM
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...."
ah, Stewleone, wise words, which remind me of my homework! lol. and cleaning my house. (we're not all virgos, ya know :laugh: )

amber
11-03-2004, 01:43 AM
Isn't it funny the people who were most directly affected by 911 (New York and Washington DC) voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. The further away from cities you lived and the less educated you are, the more you voted for Bush.
I always find it strange that the more religious you are the more hate and intolerance you have. I am so sad right now.
oh, you noticed that? That's why repubs cut education in favor of corporation. The dumber we are, the more we'll think they're ideas are GGGRRREEAAT!!
sorry, no offense to smart repubs, or religious demos, but...

Moony
11-03-2004, 01:45 AM
I'm angry and disappointed, but I can't say I'm truly surprised. So many people are convinced that Papa Bush is gonna protect us from the big, bad, unknown evils, that they didn't pay attention to the fact that he's eroding our country at a rapid pace.

Sadly, that fact will become nearly impossible to ignore in the coming months though.

Exactly. Thinking of what may go down in this next term frightens the hell out of me. This is truly a sad day for our country (and the world, even).


Anyway, this is all disappointing, but it's just all the more reason why we need to continue our quest to improve this country, and get it out from under the thumbs of the war-mongering, job-outsourcing, economy-ruining, Bible-thumping hypocrites.
We have four years to work towards taking the NEXT election from the right-wing conservatives, and we better make the best of that time.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...."

Mr. Stew, how is it that you always know what to say? :xoxo:
Johnny Stew: Wise Guru of the Ledge. :)

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 01:46 AM
NBC has somewhat retracted saying Bush won Ohio (Though they are still showing it in the red) so there's still some hope left.

Brian j.

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 01:46 AM
Isn't it funny the people who were most directly affected by 911 (New York and Washington DC) voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. The further away from cities you lived and the less educated you are, the more you voted for Bush.
I always find it strange that the more religious you are the more hate and intolerance you have. I am so sad right now.

You know Ohio is going to the courts. Don't be sad. Okay be sad, if it helps. Tomorrow we regroup and figure out where to go from here. Goodnight all. :angel: :wavey:

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 01:49 AM
ah, Stewleone, wise words, which remind me of my homework! lol. and cleaning my house. (we're not all virgos, ya know :laugh: )

Eh, don't worry. I'm an embarrassment to Virgos everywhere. I am the KING of procrastination and unfinished tasks. :o

(By the way, what does it look like lately, romance-wise, for Virgos? Some of us are curious about a new relationship. :angel: )

amber
11-03-2004, 01:51 AM
And, of course, one of the planes crashed here in PA, and our state went to Kerry, too.



It's assumed that the greatest of sins can be forgiven as long as you claim to be Jesus-loving and God-fearing.
Gonna be a lot of shocked people come Judgement Day, no? :)
hehe, that's what i always say! if there is a hell, i know who is really going there!
Amber "inside track" g.

amber
11-03-2004, 01:52 AM
Eh, don't worry. I'm an embarrassment to Virgos everywhere. I am the KING of procrastination and unfinished tasks. :o

(By the way, what does it look like lately, romance-wise, for Virgos? Some of us are curious about a new relationship. :angel: )
oh, i don't read virgo, cause i don't have any earth signs at all in my chart :distress: (ie, responsibility? what's that?) uh, i don't think you're an embarrassment, you're a librarian, for god's sake.
Also, i'm not checking right now, but
stariq.com, dude!!!! totally!

sparky
11-03-2004, 01:53 AM
Eh, don't worry. I'm an embarrassment to Virgos everywhere. I am the KING of procrastination and unfinished tasks. :o

(By the way, what does it look like lately, romance-wise, for Virgos? Some of us are curious about a new relationship. :angel: )

I am no Virgo, but dude, count yourself lucky to be single. The BS I am going through from the 7 months GONE relationship...wish I never bothered at all. At least, that's my attitude this week.

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 01:53 AM
Mr. Stew, how is it that you always know what to say? :xoxo:
Johnny Stew: Wise Guru of the Ledge. :)

Aw, shucks... you actually made me blush. :o :)
But I'm not wise... I still have so very much to learn.

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 01:57 AM
I was in a recording booth for a few minutes and now Wolf Blitzer is yelling from the TV that Ohio is "TOO CLOSE TO CALL..." wtf....I just wanna go to bed....wake me when it's over!!! ..hmm there doesn't appear to be a :rippingouthair: smilie ;)

Johnny Stew
11-03-2004, 02:02 AM
I am no Virgo, but dude, count yourself lucky to be single. The BS I am going through from the 7 months GONE relationship...wish I never bothered at all. At least, that's my attitude this week.

I'm sorry to hear your relationship didn't work out. :(

I think the romance-issue tends to be a "grass is always greener" kind of thing. Many single people would love to be in a relationship, and many coupled people would love to be single.

I've been single for quite some time now though. I enjoy it, but I'd like to have a "special someone" in my life.
I had a way-too-hard time getting over a relationship a couple years ago, but I'm more than ready to try my hand at dating again.

(Oh, and I understand where you're coming from... but every relationship, good or bad, is a learning experience. Which sounds like a bunch of bull to you right now, I'm sure. But I think you'll realize it at some point. :) )

Ok, I'm done hijacking this thread now. :sorry:

amber
11-03-2004, 02:06 AM
I'm sorry to hear your relationship didn't work out. :(

I think the romance-issue tends to be a "grass is always greener" kind of thing. Many single people would love to be in a relationship, and many coupled people would love to be single.

I've been single for quite some time now though. I enjoy it, but I'd like to have a "special someone" in my life.
I had a way-too-hard time getting over a relationship a couple years ago, but I'm more than ready to try my hand at dating again.

(Oh, and I understand where you're coming from... but every relationship, good or bad, is a learning experience. Which sounds like a bunch of bull to you right now, I'm sure. But I think you'll realize it at some point. :) )

Ok, I'm done hijacking this thread now. :sorry:
man, Cancer, here. NOT LUCKY TO BE SINGLE! HATE IT! NO SEX! hehehe
but, of course, i'd rather be by myself than with some turd, so...

amber
11-03-2004, 02:09 AM
San Franciscans saying they will eventually prevail on gay rights! Castro, hooo!
I love how my area is so politically liberally active...
yes!
we'll take over the world, yet!
'fight for gay rights, will remain, as strong as ever!"
Gavin Newsom, woot!

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 02:09 AM
man, Cancer, here. NOT LUCKY TO BE SINGLE! HATE IT! NO SEX! hehehe
but, of course, i'd rather be by myself than with some turd, so...

I'm on the cusp of Sagitarius and Capricorn - um but I've always identified as Capricorn - not that it matters as I have SUCH a limited knowledge of astrology...

ANYwAY..I am LOVING the single thing right now...in fact the last two guys who I've dated have bugged the **** out of me and I was highly annoyed at the rift they put into my life....so now I'm waiting until someone who's really worth being inconvenienced for comes around....well..I'm not waiting...because I truly love being single at the moment....:D

amber
11-03-2004, 02:12 AM
I'm on the cusp of Sagitarius and Capricorn - um but I've always identified as Capricorn - not that it matters as I have SUCH a limited knowledge of astrology...

ANYwAY..I am LOVING the single thing right now...in fact the last two guys who I've dated have bugged the **** out of me and I was highly annoyed at the rift they put into my life....so now I'm waiting until someone who's really worth being inconvenienced for comes around....well..I'm not waiting...because I truly love being single at the moment....:D
That's an important cusp. you seem more capricorny. with lots of liberal sagittarian planets..
Birthday, please?

amber
11-03-2004, 02:13 AM
- not that it matters as I have SUCH a limited knowledge of astrology...


ah, sweetie, just cause you don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Witness, Republicans :laugh:

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 02:15 AM
That's an important cusp. you seem more capricorny. with lots of liberal sagittarian planets..
Birthday, please?

I was born on December 22 - at something like 1am - interesting thing - every person in my dad's family was born on the 22nd of a month - my sister actually missed it by hours and was born on the 21st of a month...weird...uh - and probably irrelevent...but I'm butt ass tired and just thought I'd share..

Hmm...I'd probably get my work done quicker if I stopped posting here :laugh: oh well....I gotta have some breaks in the insanity that is work..

amber
11-03-2004, 02:18 AM
I was born on December 22 - at something like 1am - interesting thing - every person in my dad's family was born on the 22nd of a month - my sister actually missed it by hours and was born on the 21st of a month...weird...uh - and probably irrelevent...but I'm butt ass tired and just thought I'd share..

Hmm...I'd probably get my work done quicker if I stopped posting here :laugh: oh well....I gotta have some breaks in the insanity that is work..
oh, the 22nd. what year? Yeah, my mom's family had a 27th thing going, but my aunt ruined it...
anyways

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 02:20 AM
oh, the 22nd. what year? Yeah, my mom's family had a 27th thing going, but my aunt ruined it...
anyways

I was born in 1979...and....I was a twin...but she didn't survive...still it's so strange to think I could've had a twin...

sparky
11-03-2004, 02:20 AM
man, Cancer, here. NOT LUCKY TO BE SINGLE! HATE IT! NO SEX! hehehe
but, of course, i'd rather be by myself than with some turd, so...

Being by one's self is under-rated.

I like being single. Just grouchy this week. And let me tell you, single isn't meaning no sex. LOL. Guys are friggin' stalking me, and they all want to DATE.
No thanks ! I may try a test drive, but no leasing or purchasing for Sparky.
:lol:

amber
11-03-2004, 02:22 AM
Being by one's self is under-rated.

I like being single. Just grouchy this week. And let me tell you, single isn't meaning no sex. LOL. Guys are friggin' stalking me, and they all want to DATE.
No thanks ! I may try a test drive, but no leasing or purchasing for Sparky.
:lol:
Waaaiiiit... are you a gemini, or sag, or libra, or some other sign who can't be by themselves? I am by myself a lot, only child and all...sure, i choose it, sort of, but... :shrug:
it's not my first first choice!

amber
11-03-2004, 02:24 AM
I was born in 1979...and....I was a twin...but she didn't survive...still it's so strange to think I could've had a twin...
That's so weird...I always wanted to be a twin...ok, you're birthday really is between the cracks! Do you have a time and place of birth?

MikeVielhaber
11-03-2004, 02:27 AM
Isn't it funny the people who were most directly affected by 911 (New York and Washington DC) voted overwhelmingly for Kerry. The further away from cities you lived and the less educated you are, the more you voted for Bush.
I always find it strange that the more religious you are the more hate and intolerance you have. I am so sad right now.

yeah cause those areas werent voting democrat before 9/11.....


this feels like another red sox over yankees moment.....all of you kerry supporters were so arrogant and cocky like a yankees fan.

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 02:27 AM
That's so weird...I always wanted to be a twin...ok, you're birthday really is between the cracks! Do you have a time and place of birth?

Um - place is Las Cruces, New Mexico on what happened to be like a record cold night...and time - I believe it was between 1 and 2 in the morning...1:30ish sounds right.

amber
11-03-2004, 02:30 AM
Um - place is Las Cruces, New Mexico on what happened to be like a record cold night...and time - I believe it was between 1 and 2 in the morning...1:30ish sounds right.
okay, i'm off to stariq.com, to find out the truth! one moment

amber
11-03-2004, 02:35 AM
oo, it says "sun in sagittarius, in the third house" moon acquarius (bisexual)
venus in capricorn, mars in virgo. That can account for your work hardedness :laugh: Actually, you have a couple more planets in Virgo (work hard) but you're midheaven is Cancer, so you'll probably have to make a difference with the underfed and downtrodden, and maybe, if we're lucky, animals! hehhe. Also a couple more planets in sag. yay!

DrummerDeanna
11-03-2004, 02:37 AM
oo, it says "sun in sagittarius, in the third house" moon acquarius (bisexual)
venus in capricorn, mars in virgo. That can account for your work hardedness :laugh:

Lol...so it's in the stars my often confusing sexuality stuff hahaha...

ANywa - it's finally time fo rme to go home....ahhh...sleeeeep.....

amber
11-03-2004, 02:38 AM
Lol...so it's in the stars my often confusing sexuality stuff hahaha...

ANywa - it's finally time fo rme to go home....ahhh...sleeeeep.....
sleep. sweeet. it's only 11:30, here. Give us a report, tomorrow!
Amber "watching will and grace" g.

amber
11-03-2004, 02:57 AM
Ah, well, i try to dance with what life's had to hand me...
Sometimes it's a Bitch, Indeed
I've cried a river of tears from the pain :distress:

sparky
11-03-2004, 03:03 AM
Waaaiiiit... are you a gemini, or sag, or libra, or some other sign who can't be by themselves? I am by myself a lot, only child and all...sure, i choose it, sort of, but... :shrug:
it's not my first first choice!

Total Cap here. Climb to the top of the mountian and hang there alone.

amber
11-03-2004, 03:05 AM
Total Cap here. Climb to the top of the mountian and hang there alone.
oh, hell no! must have some sag or aquarius planets, you little slut! :laugh:
have you climbed to the top? just wondering.
I have a "thing" with capricorn :rolleyes:

estranged4life
11-03-2004, 03:12 AM
I'm off to bed...Hope the world doesn't explode cause of Bush while I am asleep or so help me in the afterlife I will kick his ass like the baby in my sig below...

Brian j.

sparky
11-03-2004, 03:13 AM
oh, hell no! must have some sag or aquarius planets, you little slut! :laugh:
have you climbed to the top? just wondering.
I have a "thing" with capricorn :rolleyes:

The top is relative, my friend.

I think I have gemini rising and gemini in jupiter. Strange, every gemini I know is a complete unpredictable nutcase.

I missed it, what are you ?

sparky
11-03-2004, 03:36 AM
Unfortunate for half of America, I have to say, don't expect the world to look upon you too favourably by tomorrow.......or next week or whatever it is. Seems the majority prefer to embrace relationships of bullying and dominance (not to mention the odd invasion) over friendly, respectful world relations. Too bad for most of the world, too bad for most of you. Seems we all lose. So are Americans masochistic by nature then?

Masochistic ? No. The majority are not even sophisticated enough to define that word. The right words are STUPID and FEARFUL.

amber
11-03-2004, 03:38 AM
The top is relative, my friend.

I think I have gemini rising and gemini in jupiter. Strange, every gemini I know is a complete unpredictable nutcase.

I missed it, what are you ?
Cancer, rising aquarius, moon in sag, venus in gemini, mars in leo, mercury and saturn in Cancer
And i agree, top is relative, but usually Cappy's have the culturally prescribed definition of "top", ie, money, status,etc.

blinker12
11-03-2004, 06:48 AM
Masochistic ? No. The majority are not even sophisticated enough to define that word. The right words are STUPID and FEARFUL.

I feel so disheartened. And angry at all the people who have forced us to endure four more years of brutality, corruption and insensitivity. :mad:

ontheEdgeof17
11-03-2004, 07:16 AM
I woke up today and saw Ohio in Blue..... :shrug:

Vianna
11-03-2004, 07:27 AM
It's just got to go to Kerry. If he gets those 20 electoral votes, he wins!!

Patti
11-03-2004, 07:38 AM
It's just got to go to Kerry. If he gets those 20 electoral votes, he wins!!

Unfortunately, it doesn't look good for Kerry. The margin of votes already counted is probably too large to change once the provisional ballots are counted. I'm so angry and disheartened I can hardly even put my thoughts in order. Heaven help us all in the next four years...

dissention
11-03-2004, 07:52 AM
I had to go to bed last night, I couldn't handle the stress. :laugh:

If Bush does indeed win, I will pray every night that he reinstates the draft, that the economy plunges into a recession, and that the Patriot Act becomes more intrusive. Only then will people wake up...but maybe not, especially hwen you take into consideration the idiots who live here.

Draft their children, Mr. Bush, you will have free reign to do whatever you want for four years.

I never in a million years thought that could have as much hate in my heart as I do now. Call me an unhappy, ugly person, I don't care. But I have so much disdain and hatred and disgust for the Republican party that it's eating me up.

That being said, I'm confident about Ohio. :wavey:

skcin
11-03-2004, 09:09 AM
Unfortunate for half of America, I have to say, don't expect the world to look upon you too favourably by tomorrow.......or next week or whatever it is. Seems the majority prefer to embrace relationships of bullying and dominance (not to mention the odd invasion) over friendly, respectful world relations. Too bad for most of the world, too bad for most of you. Seems we all lose. So are Americans masochistic by nature then?

You took the words right out of my American mouth, Lux. This whole thing is making me sick.

I'm thinking about moving - I have family in Bulgaria, and I'm really close to Canada. Hmmmmm....where to go, where to go :confused:

Paula

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 09:30 PM
. . . I never in a million years thought that could have as much hate in my heart as I do now. Call me an unhappy, ugly person, I don't care. But I have so much disdain and hatred and disgust for the Republican party that it's eating me up.

I know - but I have to make myself rise above it or it will consume me. I mean I found it hard to leave the house because earlier I drove by some faux blonde bobbed [brand of ketchup] in her SUV with her "W The President" sticker and wanted to rip the MOTHER FUC*&ING cell phone out of her hand and slap the living shi*t out of her and then gag her and make her watch videos of Iranian babies being blown apart :mad: I, of course did not do this and never would, but I think that is what it would take to awaken these idiotic people who really think "I'm voting R because I want to be considered part of the elite and what's a few 1,000 black American soldiers' lives when I can get into the country club - plus, my minister, who is in the club, told me Jesus wanted it that way and that all Muslims are evil" :mad:

Mercifully, I am better now (after about a 10 mile run :laugh: ) and am trying to be a polite, non-sore loser, which is not easy. May I return to my relative sanity soon.

As for the next four years. Sighs - I guess it will just have to be the fight is was for the last four years. AND - even if Kerry had won, it still would have been a fight - so there we have it.

GateandGarden
11-03-2004, 09:39 PM
plus, my minister, who is in the club, told me Jesus wanted it that way and that all Muslims are evil" :mad:
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

That's just so horrible!

Hillary

strandinthewind
11-03-2004, 09:42 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

That's just so horrible!

Hillary

I agree, but I know people whose ministers preached it from the pulpit for weeks before the election and the R party sent memos to the Churches (mostly fundamentalist ones) asking that they scare the hell out of their parishoners so that they get out and vote for the divinely blessed W. Not to mention Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, and other national miniters have said exactly that. So, I was coming from a place of truth with that.

ontheEdgeof17
11-03-2004, 09:43 PM
plus, my minister, who is in the club, told me Jesus wanted it that way and that all Muslims are evil"



We are in one big pile of sh*t with no one to dig us out.

gldstwmn
11-03-2004, 09:54 PM
I'm sorry, all. I don't know what to say right now.

DeeGeMe
11-03-2004, 10:59 PM
Look--us old-timers made it through 12 years of back-to-back Repug presidents (Reagan x 2 then Bush the Elder)--we can make it through another four of the Chimp's.

We've got AAR. We've got Media Matters. We've got the Democratic Underground. We've got passion. We know that hate is NOT a Family Value and that it will never be. And most importantly, we know that we are right and it's only a matter of time before the people of this country wake up and realize what we already know. W stands for WRONG.

gldstwmn
11-04-2004, 01:48 AM
Look--us old-timers made it through 12 years of back-to-back Repug presidents (Reagan x 2 then Bush the Elder)--we can make it through another four of the Chimp's.

We've got AAR. We've got Media Matters. We've got the Democratic Underground. We've got passion. We know that hate is NOT a Family Value and that it will never be. And most importantly, we know that we are right and it's only a matter of time before the people of this country wake up and realize what we already know. W stands for WRONG.

You're right. We lost the media when Reagan began comparing liberals to flashers and calling us dirty, etc. and turned it into a dirty word.

dissention
11-04-2004, 11:52 AM
I'm sorry, all. I don't know what to say right now.

Me, too.

I would just like to say thank you to all my fellow liberal friends on the board, hell, all the liberals and Democrats who supported us so much in defeating Bush across the country. I love you all for one reason or another and you alone make me proud to be an American. Your tireless support for Kerry was heartwarming and we can never be accused of not wanting the best for this country. We didn't achieve what we wanted, but they are on borrowed time. We will regain control of the Senate, we will block his judicial nominations, and we will prevail. Stand up straight, lift your head up high, and let everyone know where your loyalties lie. Much love to everyone, gay, straight, black, white, brown, yellow. WE WILL PREVAIL.

strandinthewind
11-04-2004, 12:05 PM
Me, too.

I would just like to say thank you to all my fellow liberal friends on the board, hell, all the liberals and Democrats who supported us so much in defeating Bush across the country. I love you all for one reason or another and you alone make me proud to be an American. Your tireless support for Kerry was heartwarming and we can never be accused of not wanting the best for this country. We didn't achieve what we wanted, but they are on borrowed time. We will regain control of the Senate, we will block his judicial nominations, and we will prevail. Stand up straight, lift your head up high, and let everyone know where your loyalties lie. Much love to everyone, gay, straight, black, white, brown, yellow. WE WILL PREVAIL.

Welcome Back!!!!!!

To quote Stevie "even when you feel like your life is fading - I know that you'll go on forever - you're that good - and the heartbreak of the mement is not endless"

{{{HUGS}}}

dissention
11-04-2004, 12:10 PM
Welcome Back!!!!!!

To quote Stevie "even when you feel like your life is fading - I know that you'll go on forever - you're that good - and the heartbreak of the mement is not endless"

{{{HUGS}}}

:xoxo: That hit the spot like you wouldn't believe.

estranged4life
11-04-2004, 12:40 PM
Now I know what "Frozen Love" means...Brrrrrrrrrrr

Sorry to disappear on everyone yesterday, But the "Backwood Retard" neighbor of our decided to make us freeze our asses off by backing his "Illegally" parked Semi-truck into our electric line, Thus ripping off our back porch and taking the electricity with it...Can ya say Wednesday was a GREAT day in our household??

Dont know what I missed since yesterday morning (Besides heat!!!) so hopefully someone can fill me in on what I missed in my "human frozen pop-sickle" state of existence.

Brian j.