Lay indicted!

[gldstwmn]

No link yet. Finally! The indictments will be unsealed tomorrow. :woohoo:

[strandinthewind]

About Mf Time!!!!!

[Patti]

It IS about time! YAY!

Patti

[Rob67]

No link yet. Finally! The indictments will be unsealed tomorrow. :woohoo:


It's about time...

Rob :cool:

[dissention]

I hope the MF spends the rest of his life in prison. About time!

[gldstwmn]

I hope the MF spends the rest of his life in prison. About time!

He needs to pay back the people who's pensions were lost and lives shattered as a result of this debacle at his hands. However, he's had plenty of time to stash the assets now. I would love to see the heat get hot enough for him to sing on the secret energy meetings with Cheney but that ain't gonna happen either.
In the end, I think he'll end up like Milken unless a certain lame duck president gives him a Christmas Eve pardon.

[darklinensuit]

I can't believe it's taken this long. And I think he's foolish for walking around in these expensive suits. Those ought to play well. :rolleyes:

I taught Fastow's lawyer's son this year, and he wanted to give me updates every week. To be honest, I just hope justice wins, but I'm not terribly interested in the detailed stories.

- Jake

[gldstwmn]

Kenny does the perp walk:


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[dissention]

He needs to pay back the people who's pensions were lost and lives shattered as a result of this debacle at his hands. However, he's had plenty of time to stash the assets now. I would love to see the heat get hot enough for him to sing on the secret energy meetings with Cheney but that ain't gonna happen either.
In the end, I think he'll end up like Milken unless a certain lame duck president gives him a Christmas Eve pardon.

The only reason Lay is going down in so that Bush can get some public support back. However, if he's convicted by the time Bush ends his term in January of '05, expect a pardon.

[estranged4life]

No link yet. Finally! The indictments will be unsealed tomorrow. :woohoo:

Stevie Wonder saw this one comin'.

[gldstwmn]

Stevie Wonder saw this one comin'.

It was still worth it to watch him do the perp walk. :lol: Now if I could only get to see Bush/Cheney et al do the same thing.

[gldstwmn]

The only reason Lay is going down in so that Bush can get some public support back. However, if he's convicted by the time Bush ends his term in January of '05, expect a pardon.

It timed perfectly with the new Osama terra threat. I swear to God, it's like the Ministry Of Propaganda. :rolleyes:
Ah well, off to bed and to read some more of Larry Flynt's new book, which is great by the way. :)

[strandinthewind]

It was still worth it to watch him do the perp walk. :lol: Now if I could only get to see Bush/Cheney et al do the same thing.



PREACH ON WOMAN PREACH ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dissention]

It timed perfectly with the new Osama terra threat. I swear to God, it's like the Ministry Of Propaganda. :rolleyes:
Ah well, off to bed and to read some more of Larry Flynt's new book, which is great by the way. :)

I have it on pre-order and still haven't gotten it yet!! Argh! Great to hear that's it fab, though.

The new terra warning is ridiculous. I'm shocked they haven't gone up another notch on the Sherwin Willaims paint chart.

[strandinthewind]

The only reason Lay is going down in so that Bush can get some public support back. However, if he's convicted by the time Bush ends his term in January of '05, expect a pardon.


There is no WAY Bush will be able to get away with a pardon of Lay. But, other Pres. have been equally as bold, so . . . . .

[gldstwmn]

There is no WAY Bush will be able to get away with a pardon of Lay. But, other Pres. have been equally as bold, so . . . . .

His father pardoned almost all of the Reagan criminals on Christmas Eve so...

[dissention]

There is no WAY Bush will be able to get away with a pardon of Lay. But, other Pres. have been equally as bold, so . . . . .

Bull****. If he gets an eviction notice in November, Lay will be given his first pardon. And everyone thinks that Clinton gave the most pardons? Just you wait until Dumbya leaves office. I'm all for pardoning Patty Hearst, but c'mon.

[strandinthewind]

Bull****. If he gets an eviction notice in November, Lay will be given his first pardon. And everyone thinks that Clinton gave the most pardons? Just you wait until Dumbya leaves office. I'm all for pardoning Patty Hearst, but c'mon.

Care to make a wager on that one :laugh:

But, if Clinton had the balls to pardon the exiled and felonious Rich and then "regret" it later :rolleyes: and Bush I had the balls to pardon the Reagan liars :rolleyes: who knows :laugh:

So, clearly past Presidents have gotten away with similar outrages, but I just do not see how W could get away with it. This man stole for almost everyone in the nation because almost all portfolios/pension plans/funds/etc. either had Enron stock or were effected by the scandal. So, I think it is a little different than most other pardons where not so many people were directly affected. In any event, that trial will not even start until next year probably. But, we shall see.

[dissention]

Care to make a wager on that one :laugh:

I'll bet my bank account on it. :nod:

He has absolutely nothing to lose if he pardons Lay. He won't be leaving with high approaval ratings. He's not going to make another foray back into politics and the pardon will make for good fodder in his eventual and ****ty memoir.

[strandinthewind]

I'll bet my bank account on it. :nod:

He has absolutely nothing to lose if he pardons Lay. He won't be leaving with high approaval ratings. He's not going to make another foray back into politics and the pardon will make for good fodder in his eventual and ****ty memoir.

LOL - talk about needing a ghost writer :laugh: I think the R's would KILL him if he did that - but we shall see. Come Jan. one of us will be eating crow if Lay gets convicted before then LOL :cool:

[gldstwmn]

Reagan pardoned George Steinbrenner for making illegal campaign contributions to the Nixon '72 presidential campaign. :lol:

[gldstwmn]

By R. Jeffrey Smith
(c) 2004, The Washington Post

WASHINGTON--In May 2001, Enron's top lobbyists in Washington advised the company chairman that then-House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, R-Texas, was pressing for a $100,000 contribution to his political action committee, in addition to the $250,000 the company had already pledged to the Republican party that year.

DeLay requested that the new donation come from ``a combination of corporate and personal money from Enron's executives,'' with the understanding that it would be partly spent on ``the redistricting effort in Texas,'' said the e-mail to Ken Lay from lobbyists Rick Shapiro and Linda Robertson.

The e-mail, which surfaced in a subsequent federal probe of Enron, is one of at least a dozen documents obtained by The Washington Post that show DeLay and his associates directed funds from corporations and Washington lobbyists to Republican campaign coffers in Texas in 2001 and 2002, as part of a plan to redraw the state's congressional districts.

... But DeLay and his colleagues also face serious legal challenges: Texas law bars corporate financing of state legislature campaigns, and a Texas criminal prosecutor is in the 20th month of digging through the records of the fund-raising, looking at possible violations of at least three statutes. A parallel civil lawsuit, also in the midst of discovery, is seeking $1.5 million in damages from DeLay's aides and one of his political action committees--Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC)--on behalf of four defeated Democratic lawmakers.

DeLay has not been named as a target of the investigation. The prosecutor has said he is focused on the activities of political action committees linked to DeLay and the redistricting effort. But officials in the prosecutor's office say anyone involved in raising, collecting, or spending the corporate funds, who also knew of their intended use in Texas election races, is vulnerable.