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diamondsnake

01-04-2004, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by dissention
Because the movie has a strong element of Stevie-ness, they wanted to use a lot of her songs. So, they contacted her management about using some and were told to send them the script. After reviewing the script, the answer from her management for song use was a firm no and it's believed to be because of the gay element in the film. As far as the producers know, Stevie was never even told about the project.

I'm glad, I personally would not want Stevie to get involved in this type of movie.

whitesoxx

01-04-2004, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I'm glad, I personally would not want Stevie to get involved in this type of movie.

If you were to read the synopsis of the movie on its website you would see that this is a coming-of-age road movie and therefore nothing to be ashamed of.

I would much rather see her songs used in "this type" of movie than a violent and sexist cartoon like "Heavy Metal".

Rick

dissention

01-04-2004, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I'm glad, I personally would not want Stevie to get involved in this type of movie.

Why not? :confused:

diamondsnake

01-04-2004, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by dissention
Why not? :confused:

Well this just doesn't seem good for Stevie's image for some reason. It might give some people the wrong idea about her. I don't know, I just don't like it when people associate her with being gothic. And the summary of the movie starts out with "Two Goths..."

When I think of gothic, I think of black trench coat nerds that people picked on and then they blow up the school" I just can't get that image of gothic people out of my head...

Sorry if I offended anyone.

dissention

01-04-2004, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well this just doesn't seem good for Stevie's image for some reason. It might give some people the wrong idea about her. I don't know, I just don't like it when people associate her with being gothic. And the summary of the movie starts out with "Two Goths..."

When I think of gothic, I think of black trench coat nerds that people picked on and then they blow up the school" I just can't get that image of gothic people out of my head...

Sorry if I offended anyone.

You should get it out of your head, it's an awful stereotype that just perpetuates even more alienation. :( And besides, goth has nothing to do with wearing black trenchcoats.

If you're judging the movie based on characters who like to dress like Stevie, why would you like Stevie? Back in the day, she *was* a tad goth. She wore a black wedding dress, for cripes sake. When you start adding platform boots, black lace, shawls, and black bustiers to your wardrobe, you run the risk of being called that. :)

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by diamondsnake

When I think of gothic, I think of black trench coat nerds that people picked on and then they blow up the school" I just can't get that image of gothic people out of my head...

Give me strength..... Rather than reply to this I will just count to 10.... deep breaths..

dissention

01-05-2004, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Give me strength..... Rather than reply to this I will just count to 10.... deep breaths..

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:wavey:

CarneVaca

01-05-2004, 09:50 AM

So... let me get this straight. Stevie's management turned down this movie because it was weird?

Jason T.

01-05-2004, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Give me strength..... Rather than reply to this I will just count to 10.... deep breaths..

I don't blame you, some of these comments seem too irrational.

I don't understand why Stevie's management wouldn't want the songs in the movie. I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that Stevie didn't know about it -- I mean, surely with the exposure on the Stevie Nicks' Fan Club episode and all, she would of known about it by now. I hope to God that Stevie didn't turn it down, it's theme is strongly tied to her. It isn't the Night Of A Thousand Dollys or Night Of A Thousand Chers now is it? I'm sure they would of jumped on the chance to have their music in a movie that worships them that much. I really hope she didn't turn it down for the reason everyone thinks she did, cause I don't think of Stevie as being...dare I say without being flamed...ignorant?

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by dissention
You should get it out of your head, it's an awful stereotype that just perpetuates even more alienation. :( And besides, goth has nothing to do with wearing black trenchcoats.

If you're judging the movie based on characters who like to dress like Stevie, why would you like Stevie? Back in the day, she *was* a tad goth. She wore a black wedding dress, for cripes sake. When you start adding platform boots, black lace, shawls, and black bustiers to your wardrobe, you run the risk of being called that. :)

Well I am not judging the movie, I am just saying that I understand why Stevie would have turned down the chance to have her music in this movie. I am still very intrested in seeing it.

And I am very sorry that I have that image of gothic people in my head. My friends kill me whenever I make comments like that.

Also, I don't like how, if I am reading the summary of the movie correctly, this would further the beleif that all of Stevie's male fans are gay. An article this summer came out saying how FM fans are feminine men, and I don't like that stereotype. I don't know how it got started in the first place. It makes Stevie sound like Cher.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake

And I am very sorry that I have that image of gothic people in my head. My friends kill me whenever I make comments like that.

At least your friends have some sense then... maybe you should start to listen

whitesoxx

01-05-2004, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
[Also, I don't like how, if I am reading the summary of the movie correctly, this would further the beleif that all of Stevie's male fans are gay. An article this summer came out saying how FM fans are feminine men, and I don't like that stereotype. I don't know how it got started in the first place. It makes Stevie sound like Cher. [/B]

First of all, Stevie has fans all across the board: straight, gay, bisexual, transexual, metrosexual, trisexual, whatever...

Secondly, I seriously doubt that if a guy were to tell somebody that he is a Stevie Nicks fan, the other one would assume that he is gay. I mean, we're not talking about Barbra here and I'm pretty sure even she has some straight male fans! ;)

And finally, please, gay does NOT equal feminine! However it DOES equal great taste which is why I'm such a huge Stevie fan!
:laugh:

Rick

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
At least your friends have some sense then... maybe you should start to listen

Well calm down. I am sorry if I am speaking my mind instead of worrying about being politically correct. And I have nothing against gothic people, however, I am sorry to say that I can't get that stereotype out of my head. Plain and simple.

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by whitesoxx
First of all, Stevie has fans all across the board: straight, gay, bisexual, transexual, metrosexual, trisexual, whatever...

Secondly, I seriously doubt that if a guy were to tell somebody that he is a Stevie Nicks fan, the other one would assume that he is gay. I mean, we're not talking about Barbra here and I'm pretty sure even she has some straight male fans! ;)

And finally, please, gay does NOT equal feminine! However it DOES equal great taste which is why I'm such a huge Stevie fan!
:laugh:

Rick

See, this is exactly what I am talking about. I don't beleive that people think Stevie fans are all feminine, but if movies like this come out, then people might think of her as a Barbra or a Cher, and I think Stevie is so much better then that. Like you said, she has fans all across the board, and I want people to know that and not put her in the same cat. as Barbra.

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well calm down. I am sorry if I am speaking my mind instead of worrying about being politically correct. And I have nothing against gothic people, however, I am sorry to say that I can't get that stereotype out of my head. Plain and simple.

It's isn't speaking your mind, it's ignorance.

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
See, this is exactly what I am talking about. I don't beleive that people think Stevie fans are all feminine, but if movies like this come out, then people might think of her as a Barbra or a Cher, and I think Stevie is so much better then that. Like you said, she has fans all across the board, and I want people to know that and not put her in the same cat. as Barbra.

Based what you said, you'd have to know that the character portrayed in the film is "feminine." But honestly, what would be the big deal if people believed that male Stevie fans are feminine? Does it bother you? Does it take away from the music? It sounds to me like it's a very poor rationale.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:26 PM

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by dissention
It's isn't speaking your mind, it's ignorance.

Well wouldn't Stevie or Stevie's people be just as ignorant? They had no problem having several of her songs played on the comedy Practical Magic a few years ago, so why do they have a problem with script?

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:29 PM

HomerMcvie

01-05-2004, 01:31 PM

But honestly, what would be the big deal if people believed that male Stevie fans are feminine? Does it bother you? Does it take away from the music? It sounds to me like it's a very poor rationale.
But it's an untrue stereotype. While drinking at a sports bar last week, I was telling a girl I was talking to that I was a big FM fan. Some stranger on the other side of her overheard me and said, "So what gay bar do you hang out at?". He then immediately apologized when he thought he might get his assed kicked.:nod:

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:31 PM

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well wouldn't Stevie or Stevie's people be just as ignorant? They had no problem having several of her songs played on the comedy Practical Magic a few years ago, so why do they have a problem with script?

Not at all. They are certainly asses, but not ignorant. They said no to the project for clearly stated reasons, not for bad assumptions and stereotypes. Did they make the right decision? No, they made themselves look like fools. But they didn't say no because they thought that Stevie might be a supporter of trench-coat mafias. I believe they had problems with the script because of some of the gay themes and some of the violence, not goths who like to shoot up schools.

And using your argument that she shouldn't be involved with this project for fear of perpetuating the belief that her fans are effeminate males, why would her songs be used and specially recorded for a movie about witches? After all, that's the last thing Stevie's management and her fans want her to be called...

Sugar

01-05-2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
He then immediately apologized when he thought he might get his assed kicked.:nod:

:laugh: Rock on, Homer! I think we should have more militants in the FM community!

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Well I pity you then. And this has nothing to do with being politically correct.... stinks of ignorance to me..

Well please enlighten me then. And you don't have to get nasty about it. I don't know if this hits close to home for you or what...

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
But it's an untrue stereotype. While drinking at a sports bar last week, I was telling a girl I was talking to that I was a big FM fan. Some stranger on the other side of her overheard me and said, "So what gay bar do you hang out at?". He then immediately apologized when he thought he might get his assed kicked.:nod:

I've never come across that in the states.

It may be a stereotype, but it isn't as unfair and hurtful as the stereotype about goths tha was posted. In all honesty, it's a stupid belief and it hurts no one, unless they are homophobic, which is what comes across when you say he thought he was going to get his ass kicked; it's as if it bothered you when it shouldn't have.

I like Judy Garland but I'm not gay. Should I be bothered that some may think I am? No, I should worry about more important things and not such trivial ridiculousness.

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well please enlighten me then. And you don't have to get nasty about it. I don't know if this hits close to home for you or what...
I don't believe I was being nasty. Your stereotype of goths could be considered nasty and ignorant. Do you know any?

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by dissention

I like Judy Garland but I'm not gay. Should I be bothered that some may think I am? No, I should worry about more important things and not such trivial ridiculousness.
Judy is dah bomb!

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well please enlighten me then. And you don't have to get nasty about it. I don't know if this hits close to home for you or what...

Christopher--

I think you know full well that what you said was a stereotype that others don't share. I think you know full well that goths aren't kids who wear trenchcoats and shoot up schools. I think you know what you said was wrong and you're trying to justify it by playing the ignorant card.

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
Judy is dah bomb!

Damn skippy!

*proudly sings "The Trolley Song"*

:laugh: :wavey:

Sugar

01-05-2004, 01:42 PM

Were those Colombine kids goths? When I think of goths I think of Morrissy (sp?) and Joy Division and even Nine Inch Nails. Physically, I think of goths as doing that white face, heavy black eye make-up thing. Emotionally I always characterize them as sensitive thoughtful types. Met a woman in college wearing the all black thing and someone asked her what was up with that. She replied, "I'm in mourning for the world." To me, that's goth.

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Sugar
Were those Colombine kids goths? When I think of goths I think of Morrissy (sp?) and Joy Division and even Nine Inch Nails. Physically, I think of goths as doing that white face, heavy black eye make-up thing. Emotionally I always characterize them as sensitive thoughtful types. Met a woman in college wearing the all black thing and someone asked her what was up with that. She replied, "I'm in mourning for the world." To me, that's goth.

No, they weren't. They were certainly weird, though.

And that's pretty much my understanding of goths. :)

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
I don't believe I was being nasty. Your stereotype of goths could be considered nasty and ignorant. Do you know any?

I actually do know one person who one might consider gothic and she is the most annoying, self centered, laugh at her own jokes, "look at me, I'm so smart", unfunny girl in the United States. And this has nothing to do with her clothes. Maybe since she is the only gothic person I know, it has made me think that all gothics are like this, which obviously is not true.

whitesoxx

01-05-2004, 01:45 PM

Sugar

01-05-2004, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I actually do know one person who one might consider gothic and she is the most annoying, self centered, laugh at her own jokes, "look at me, I'm so smart", unfunny girl in the United States. And this has nothing to do with her clothes. Maybe since she is the only gothic person I know, it has made me think that all gothics are like this, which obviously is not true.

So I'm guessing she doesn't wear a trench coat or pack a shotgun...

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by dissention
Christopher--

I think you know full well that what you said was a stereotype that others don't share. I think you know full well that goths aren't kids who wear trenchcoats and shoot up schools. I think you know what you said was wrong and you're trying to justify it by playing the ignorant card.

I am sorry and you are right, trying to justify what I said is not getting me anywhere. I am sorry to everyone who I have offended. But please stop ganging up on me! I can't take this, which I know is silly since this is just a message board, but I love this board and don't want everyone hating me here.

:sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

strandinthewind

01-05-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by CarneVaca
So... let me get this straight. Stevie's management turned down this movie because it was weird?

I am sure Stevie's people get approached for many different projects about or related to her. This just happens to be one of the projects that actually got made.

I kind of think it was a financial thing as this movie appears to have been made with a small budget. I mean (right or wrong) no big star associates their one maketable commodity unless the cash is paid. For example, how many times do you suppose Madonna's people or Diana Ross' or La Streisand's people get approached for stories similar to this.

Personally, I think her management compancy should have let her stuff be used. If anything it would have been more publicity. But, they never asked me :laugh:

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I am sorry and you are right, trying to justify what I said is not getting me anywhere. I am sorry to everyone who I have offended. But please stop ganging up on me! I can't take this, which I know is silly since this is just a message board, but I love this board and don't want everyone hating me here.

:sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

No one hates ya, doll. People are just commenting on things that have been said. I haven't singled you out, I've replied to many different posters about their posts; it's just meant for discussions. You should know by now that the things people say on this board aren't meant as personal attacks, they're meant as discussions.

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I am sure Stevie's people get approached for many different projects about or related to her. This just happens to be one of the projects that actually got made.

I kind of think it was a financial thing as this movie appears to have been made with a small budget. I mean (right or wrong) no big star associates their one maketable commodity unless the cash is paid. For example, how many times do you suppose Madonna's people or Diana Ross' or La Streisand's people get approached for stories similar to this.

Personally, I think her management compancy should have let her stuff be used. If anything it would have been more publicity. But, they never asked me :laugh:

Strandie--

I think Carne meant his post as a joke, especially by throwing in the word weird. Stevie Nicks = weird.

Get it? :laugh:

strandinthewind

01-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by dissention
Strandie--

I think Carne meant his post as a joke, especially by throwing in the word weird. Stevie Nicks = weird.

Get it? :laugh:

:(

Apparently, my New Years's Eve fun has left me still a little slow on the uptake!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

dissention

01-05-2004, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
:(

Apparently, my New Years's Eve fun has left me still a little slow on the uptake!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

:laugh:

Must be! I never knew you to be one who didn't get things quickly...:laugh:

Sugar

01-05-2004, 02:02 PM

So was this film actually made in the early 80's? I think it makes the most sense that Stevie's management (and management is notoriously conservative) had problems with the gay themes. Goths are a pretty innocuous bunch, so I can't imagine that being the problem. Still pretty silly, though. But at least this is the only time I can think of that Stevie's or any of the FM management has made a misstep... :cool:

dissention

01-05-2004, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Sugar
So was this film actually made in the early 80's? I think it makes the most sense that Stevie's management (and management is notoriously conservative) had problems with the gay themes. Goths are a pretty innocuous bunch, so I can't imagine that being the problem. Still pretty silly, though. But at least this is the only time I can think of that Stevie's or any of the FM management has made a misstep... :cool:

No, it was made in 2000. :)

The sole reason that it's getting a limited release now is because Sara Rue is the star of ABCs "Less Than Perfect." And because it has the B-movie presence of the one and only Karen Black. :laugh:

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-05-2004, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
I am sorry and you are right, trying to justify what I said is not getting me anywhere. I am sorry to everyone who I have offended. But please stop ganging up on me! I can't take this, which I know is silly since this is just a message board, but I love this board and don't want everyone hating me here.

:sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:
No one hates you! You just have to be aware of who else reads and posts on the boards and to make a statement like that is bound to offend some!

Pip

Sugar

01-05-2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by dissention
No, it was made in 2000. :)

Wow, that's actually a little disturbing then. Perhaps it just wasn't big budget enough, hopefully.

Just did a search on IMDB and there was actually a nice little review for Gypsy 83. And I recognize those actresses now too!:)

sparky

01-05-2004, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by dissention
But they didn't say no because they thought that Stevie might be a supporter of trench-coat mafias. I believe they had problems with the script because of some of the gay themes and some of the violence, not goths who like to shoot up schools.

Though I think that Stevie's management consistently makes idiotic choices, I can understand why they wouldn't give this movie the music. Even without seeing it.

People's songs are a commodities. When they are used, there is a fee paid, and though it's negotiable, there is usually a minimum. I don't suspect the movie could afford her music. Hell, "School of Rock" couldn't afford "Never Going Back Again". And that was a big budget Paramount film. However, they could afford Stevie's "Edge of 17". Obviously, it was cheaper, but still not cheap by any means.

Also - an artist has to think about their image and how it gets used. If you give a project your blessing by letting them use (or buy) the music, you are in essence, putting a lot on the line. And what do you get in return ? Huge publicity ? Maybe - if the movie has big stars, a big PR machine behind it, or a script that is going to generate a lot of money or excellent critical buzz. However, if it's just a cute little indie movie, not great, but a fun little flick that only a few people will see...you may not want to associate yourself with it. As powerful an image as Stevie has, it, like any other, can be diluted by too much use.

Who knows ? I can't imagine Stevie being uptight about two guys making out, or whatever else this movie might contain. But, her management might know of some other project that wants her songs for something similar, or she may not want to condone the whole Night of 1000 Stevies thing. It is hard to say.

I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't know about it - and if she does, it would not surprise me if she wasn't asked directly. The film people may have made the terrible mistake of going to her agent, rather than her or her manager. If the agent knew there wasn't money in it, there was no way it would happen. I'd love to know the real story, but I think there could be numerous reasons the movie didn't get the songs. From a business perspective, a lot of them would make sense. I'll wait until I see the film to decide whether or not the project was worthy of the music. Either way, tiny budget, no big stars, I can see why an artist would say no just for those reasons.

dissention

01-05-2004, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by sparky
I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't know about it - and if she does, it would not surprise me if she wasn't asked directly. The film people may have made the terrible mistake of going to her agent, rather than her or her manager. If the agent knew there wasn't money in it, there was no way it would happen. I'd love to know the real story, but I think there could be numerous reasons the movie didn't get the songs. From a business perspective, a lot of them would make sense. I'll wait until I see the film to decide whether or not the project was worthy of the music. Either way, tiny budget, no big stars, I can see why an artist would say no just for those reasons.

That's what I think is the biggest thing with the rights: she wasn't asked for permission and she wasn't even told about the film. I think that if she had seen it or read the script, she would have jumped at the opportunity to lend her songs to such a great flick. It is, in essence, a love letter of sorts to Stevie and it has a wonderful message hidden inside.

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by dissention
That's what I think is the biggest thing with the rights: she wasn't asked for permission and she wasn't even told about the film. I think that if she had seen it or read the script, she would have jumped at the opportunity to lend her songs to such a great flick. It is, in essence, a love letter of sorts to Stevie and it has a wonderful message hidden inside.

Have you seen the movie?

dissention

01-05-2004, 03:30 PM

Yeah, last year. It was a screener video, the ones with the scroll on the bottom saying that it is illegal to have bought it from someone. I have a friend who gets screeners all the time, so I borrowed it from him.

I really enjoyed it. I like Sara Rue (she's cute as a button) and I liked the plot of it. It was awesome to see a movie where the whole thing is built around the Night of 1000 Stevie's. Great flick, but it'll be on video soon, I don't foresee it getting wide distribution.

dissention

01-05-2004, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by trackaghost
As far as I know that's not true. They were going to use Never Going Back Again until Joan Cusack suggested Edge Of 17 instead and the director thought it was a great idea. That is what I read anyway...

I read that they wanted to use both songs, but NGBA was decided on after the fact and there was no more money left in the budget to use it (they wanted to use it in post-production).

HomerMcvie

01-05-2004, 08:19 PM

Rock on, Homer! I think we should have more militants in the FM community!
You don't have to take **** off of anybody, if you just stand up for yourself. Just for the record, I never get into fights. Just being prepared, and letting them know you're willing to fight, is almost always enough to make them step down. Confidence is everything.
Anyway, growing up (1980s)I never knew FM was considered "gay music". It wasn't til my mid 20s that I found out that some people consider it gay. "Really?" I never had a clue about it. It just never crossed my mind. I just knew it was good.
To this day, about once a year, I'll hear from some high school friend I've not heard from in 15 years, who will say, "I heard a FM song on the radio today, and instantly thought of you, and had to find you".
Pardon the ramble...

DrummerDeanna

01-05-2004, 08:59 PM

You know, I gotta say the only time I've ever seen the gay/Stevie/FM correlation pop up is on the internet...I've been a fan for years...and also know many musicians who also enjoy their music, but no one has ever isolated it as a "gay" thing or whatever...not that it matters (not that there's anything wrong with that;) ) My brother-in-law always makes it a point, in fact, to tell me about what a sex goddess Stevie was in the 80's for him and his friends...all straight males who listened/watched and drooled over Stevie and Christine....

As for Gypsy83...it's a whole movie about the night of 1,000 Stevies with NO Stevie music at all? Those of you who have seen it - how does that work? I really wanna see btw..and think it's about damn time they're releasing it...

dissention

01-05-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by DrummerDeanna
As for Gypsy83...it's a whole movie about the night of 1,000 Stevies with NO Stevie music at all? Those of you who have seen it - how does that work? I really wanna see btw..and think it's about damn time they're releasing it...

The only Stevie song in it is Talk To Me, for the sole reason that Stevie didn't write it.

sparky

01-05-2004, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by DrummerDeanna
You know, I gotta say the only time I've ever seen the gay/Stevie/FM correlation pop up is on the internet...

The first time I ever noticed was on the Street Angel Tour. My friends and I were at a show in Vegas and we all noticed and said to one another that if all the homo boys, homo girls, and "big boned gals" were to disappear, the place would have been half full. We all got a good laugh over this. And just for the record - my group consisted of 2 homo boys, one homo girl, and a self proclaimed "big boned gal".

sparky

01-05-2004, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by dissention
The only Stevie song in it is Talk To Me, for the sole reason that Stevie didn't write it.

They should have tried to snag SDMHA. Doubt that Tom would let it go for cheap, but still....

I am not sure about the NGBA song almost being in School Of Rock. My memory is like a sieve lately. I thought I read an interview where the director said it was his favorite FM song and he always wanted to use it but they couldn't afford it. However, I also think I read that Eo17 was Cusack's idea. I read so many industry magazines I can't remember if Britney is married, divorced, clothed or naked. So hard to keep track of all this information.

diamondsnake

01-05-2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
I never knew FM was considered "gay music".

It is not, I really don't think so. My Grandpa likes them, my dad likes them, my male cousin saw their last concert, my history teacher likes them, I like them!

These are all straight men.

I don't understand why they would be associated with being gay, maybe because there are women in this band? I don't know, it is strange.

But, I still don't think many people think of Fleetwood Mac fans as gay. I, also, have only heard of this on the internet. Cher, Madonna, those kind of singers might be linked to being gay, but Fleetwood Mac? I don't understand why.

dissention

01-06-2004, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by sparky
They should have tried to snag SDMHA. Doubt that Tom would let it go for cheap, but still....

Tom's not a hard-ass and he isn't greedy, so I'm sure he would've let it go. :nod: :D

goldustboi

01-06-2004, 10:03 AM

But, I still don't think many people think of Fleetwood Mac fans as gay. I, also, have only heard of this on the internet. Cher, Madonna, those kind of singers might be linked to being gay, but Fleetwood Mac? I don't understand why

I dont think its FM per se that draw in the gay following, I think its probably Stevie as an individual, so those gay people who do take a shining to Stevie will obviously be exposed to FM aswell.

:wavey: :wavey:

Livia

01-06-2004, 10:53 AM

The same guy(s) who did Gypsy 83 also did a film called "Edge of Seventeen," which was very good. Blockbuster has it. It's another coming of age film about homosexuality.

I don't believe Stevie's management even told her about Gypsy 83, since I don't believe that Stevie would object to a song or two being used. But it doesn't seem like the producers could have afforded more than one anyway. Remember that interview Stevie did where she mentioned that she would LOVE to attend the Night of 1000 Stevie's? How cool would that be??

:wavey:

seeker007nmss

01-06-2004, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Livia
Remember that interview Stevie did where she mentioned that she would LOVE to attend the Night of 1000 Stevie's? How cool would that be??

:wavey:

I wonder if she didnt say anything and tried to compete in the Stevie look alike contest if she would win? LOL In second place....

nevermind. :D

joe

01-06-2004, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by goldustboi
I dont think its FM per se that draw in the gay following, I think its probably Stevie as an individual, so those gay people who do take a shining to Stevie will obviously be exposed to FM aswell.

:wavey: :wavey:

i think a lot of peeps associate Stevie as "being" Fleetwood Mac....sort of how Debbie Harry was always defined as being "Blondie"....the big difference though, is that Debbie Harry was really the main front person of that group. Fleetwood Mac, at least the Rumours lineup, had three front people. Still, i think because of Stevie's image and the fact that she was front and center on stage alluded to people thinking she was the sole front person. And, my opinion, her music/writing was the most interesting....not saying it's better, but it stood out the most...and i love most FM members. Therefore, if she stands out the most and she attracts a gay following, then the rest of the band falls into that too.

I really doubt that FM is viewed as gay music...that is the most absurd thing i've ever heard of....unless people are referring to "gay" as being lame, fartsy, or anything else not related to the homosexual definition of the word.

Anyone's music can be "gay" then....anything that's mellow could be considered "gay"....anyone that makes that kind of a comment is ignorant.

If someone wants to rephrase it and say that Stevie or FM have a large gay following, i don't even know if that's accurate either. I would say Stevie more than FM, if anything...but by no means would i even compare her to Cher, Streisand, or Miller (Bette)....I think those singers have a large gay following because of their openness to the whole gay thing....Stevie doesn't really speak that much about the subject...I think if she were more open about it, she could have a much larger gay fanbase.

strandinthewind

01-06-2004, 01:47 PM

When asked - she has pretty much always said she is glad her music is liked by all types of people. She did say once however, that she saw a 6'5" or so drag queen on the front row of a concert and she wanted to go up and just talk to him about drag, etc. How funny would it be to see a big 6'5" drag queen with 5'4" Stevie in hells!!!!!! :laugh:

dissention

01-06-2004, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by joe
If someone wants to rephrase it and say that Stevie or FM have a large gay following, i don't even know if that's accurate either. I would say Stevie more than FM, if anything...but by no means would i even compare her to Cher, Streisand, or Miller (Bette)....I think those singers have a large gay following because of their openness to the whole gay thing....Stevie doesn't really speak that much about the subject...I think if she were more open about it, she could have a much larger gay fanbase.

Well, Midler did perform her act in the showers of gay men. :nod: :laugh:

strandinthewind

01-06-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by dissention
Well, Midler did perform her act in the showers of gay men. :nod: :laugh: I somewhere have a recording of that! Let's just say she was having a good if not great time - in the middle of a snow dream! :laugh:

dissention

01-06-2004, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I somewhere have a recording of that! Let's just say she was having a good if not great time - in the middle of a snow dream! :laugh:

:laugh:

I have a bootleg video of one of those early shows and she gets so into what she doing that her boobs pop out of her top and she doesn't realize it until quite awhile afterwards...and then only put one back in. :laugh: It wasn't like anyone was going to make a pass at her.

HomerMcvie

01-06-2004, 02:19 PM

How funny would it be to see a big 6'5" drag queen with 5'4" Stevie in hells!!!!!!
See Fleetwood, Mick
Oh, that's drama queen.:laugh:

sara1998

01-06-2004, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
She did say once however, that she saw a 6'5" or so drag queen on the front row of a concert and she wanted to go up and just talk to him about drag, etc. How funny would it be to see a big 6'5" drag queen with 5'4" Stevie in hells!!!!!! :laugh:

I would love to read this.......

oh! lol, you said "Stevie in HELLS" :laugh:

Maria

strandinthewind

01-06-2004, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by sara1998
I would love to read this.......

oh! lol, you said "Stevie in HELLS" :laugh:

Maria

Oops!!!! :cool:

Here is the part of the interview from 1998

Interview Magazine
July 1998
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A Storm Called Stevie"

. . .

RR: Did you know that you are sort of a drag icon?

Stevie: Well, I've heard that. Is it true?

RR: Definitely.

Stevie: It cracks me up-I love it. I saw a six-foot-five guy dressed like me in the front row at one of the recent Fleetwood Mac shows. He had a veil thing on, and a full-on dress. I could hardly get through the song-it just made me die laughing. I wanted to jump offstage and run down and look at him. [laughs] I've heard about the Night of A Thousand Stevies in New York, which of course I'm going to go to, as soon as I can manage to be on that side of the country when it happens."

Kudos to the Nicksfix (www.nicksfix.com) for the posting of the article.

joe

01-06-2004, 07:58 PM

[I've heard about the Night of A Thousand Stevies in New York, which of course I'm going to go to, as soon as I can manage to be on that side of the country when it happens."

[/B]

she'll never make it..."as soon as i manage to be on that side of the country when it happens"...that's just an excuse...she's been to "that" side of the country several times cause they usually hold that around Mother's Day right? Maybe not exactly to the day but....they'll have to reschedule the "Night et al" this year for when we know FM will be in NY...

Also, with her money, she could fly herself out to NY anytime and shock the **** out of people by just showing up.

dissention

01-06-2004, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by joe
she'll never make it..."as soon as i manage to be on that side of the country when it happens"...that's just an excuse...she's been to "that" side of the country several times cause they usually hold that around Mother's Day right? Maybe not exactly to the day but....they'll have to reschedule the "Night et al" this year for when we know FM will be in NY...

Also, with her money, she could fly herself out to NY anytime and shock the **** out of people by just showing up.

You're right, she would NEVER attend. I do think she's sincere when she says she gets a kick out of it, though.

strandinthewind

01-06-2004, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by dissention
You're right, she would NEVER attend. I do think she's sincere when she says she gets a kick out of it, though.

To paraphrase her on the VH-1 fan thing - "If you want to use me as an excuse to have a party - that's GREAT!!!!" :laugh:

Johnny Stew

01-06-2004, 10:08 PM

The first time I was ever aware of Stevie having a large gay following, was around the time I was 21.
A female friend of mine was friends with a few gay guys she met in college, and she'd often go to gay clubs with them. She said it was the best place for a woman to go if she just wanted to dance and have fun without being hit on.

This was long before I came out, and she told me, "oh, you'd love it there... they play every track off of 'Timespace' every time I'm there," and then she went on about how much all the gay guys at the club love Stevie.

Before that, I never made any kind of Stevie/gay following connection.

I do think Stevie has more straight male fans than, say, Madonna or Liza Minnelli, but she definitely has a large gay following.
And I think Stevie is well aware of, and proud of, that gay following. She even did an interview with HX magazine when 'Trouble In Shangri-La' was released... and HX isn't exactly a "G" rated mag. So I doubt she would have denied the use of her music to 'Gypsy 83' based solely on the film's "gay themes."

As has been suggested, she probably never even knew about the request.

gldstwmn

01-06-2004, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by dissention
It probably wouldn't, but the movie won't get a wide release, so it wouldn't really matter. It'll play a few indie theaters based on Sara Rue's presence and then go right to video.

I'd really like to have it on dvd.:)

gldstwmn

01-06-2004, 10:25 PM

diamondsnake

01-06-2004, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
The first time I was ever aware of Stevie having a large gay following, was around the time I was 21.
A female friend of mine was friends with a few gay guys she met in college, and she'd often go to gay clubs with them. She said it was the best place for a woman to go if she just wanted to dance and have fun without being hit on.

This was long before I came out, and she told me, "oh, you'd love it there... they play every track off of 'Timespace' every time I'm there," and then she went on about how much all the gay guys at the club love Stevie.

Before that, I never made any kind of Stevie/gay following connection.

I do think Stevie has more straight male fans than, say, Madonna or Liza Minnelli, but she definitely has a large gay following.
And I think Stevie is well aware of, and proud of, that gay following. She even did an interview with HX magazine when 'Trouble In Shangri-La' was released... and HX isn't exactly a "G" rated mag. So I doubt she would have denied the use of her music to 'Gypsy 83' based solely on the film's "gay themes."

As has been suggested, she probably never even knew about the request.

What is HX?

And I still say that 99% of people who a guy tells they like Fleetwood Mac to, would not even think they are gay just because of FM/Stevie. I still have not heard of this connection, other then on the internet. And just because some of Stevie's songs are played in gay clubs that doesn't mean anything because music is music and doesn't have anything to do with a person's sexuality. Straight people, gay people, bi people all have the same ears and can enjoy the same music, right?

gldstwmn

01-06-2004, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by Sugar
Were those Colombine kids goths? When I think of goths I think of Morrissy (sp?) and Joy Division and even Nine Inch Nails. Physically, I think of goths as doing that white face, heavy black eye make-up thing. Emotionally I always characterize them as sensitive thoughtful types. Met a woman in college wearing the all black thing and someone asked her what was up with that. She replied, "I'm in mourning for the world." To me, that's goth.

I saw Morrissey about a year ago and he was wearing a suit! I've never met any Goths who didn't love the Earth as much as any Hippie I've ever met.

Johnny Stew

01-06-2004, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by diamondsnake
What is HX?HX is magazine geared towards gay men, and therefore is filled with articles and photo layouts with "gay themes." There is also semi-nudity (but nothing hardcore).
Given the nature of the mag, and Stevie's decision to do an interview with them, I highly doubt the gay themes in 'Gypsy 83' would have scared her away.
Originally posted by diamondsnake
And I still say that 99% of people who a guy tells they like Fleetwood Mac to, would not even think they are gay just because of FM/Stevie. I still have not heard of this connection, other then on the internet. And just because some of Stevie's songs are played in gay clubs that doesn't mean anything because music is music and doesn't have anything to do with a person's sexuality. Straight people, gay people, bi people all have the same ears and can enjoy the same music, right? You're right, I doubt anyone thinks, "oh, that guy's a Fleetwood Mac fan, so he must be gay." But gay Mac & Nicks fans are definitely not limited to the internet community.

And no, it doesn't inherently mean an artist has a "huge gay fanbase" simply because their music is played in gay clubs, but there are certain artists, and Stevie is among them, who are considered popular gay icons, and whose music often gets played in gay clubs for that reason.

By the way, that's not a bad thing. If an artist has the blessing of the gay community, they're pretty much assured of always having an audience no matter how cool or uncool the rest of the music buying public thinks they are.

whitesoxx

01-08-2004, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by trackaghost
I'm surprised no one here has been to the Night Of A 1000 Stevies though... no one at all?

:)

Yes I have, two years ago and it was a blast! It was so much fun to dance to nothing but Stevie songs all night and to be in a crowded room with people that knew ALL the words just like me :) ! And I was banging my ribboned tambourine like crazy all night!

The performances were fun too, some were tongue in cheeek, others more serious. The best part of course was the Battle in the end, where all the performers get on stage for Edge Of Seventeen.

It was definitely worth flying to the US for- and if FM hadn't toured last year I would have gone again. Instead I went for the "real thing" ;)

Rick

sparky

01-08-2004, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by trackaghost
Just wondering, has anyone here been to the Night Of A Thousand Stevies? It sounds wild!

Of course. Alas, only one, in LA during the Enchanted tour. I have a great video of it. She was rumoured to be coming, but then that whole "stalker" thing happened. I am certain she was freaked out and her people wouldn't let her go. Why would she, after having to get a restraining order ? It would have been a great venue for her to go to, as the Viper Room has a sweet little VIP room where celebrities can hide. But, I don't blame her. If she did go, I bet she wouldn't mingle. The poor woman would be eaten alive. I could barely walk in there, let alone get a drink when I wanted one. She would be friggin MOBBED.

That being said, it is a dream event for any Stevie fan. If I had the time, I would go to NY every year for it. Just never has worked into my schedule.

joe

01-08-2004, 12:12 PM

Do you have to dress like Stevie to attend?
I'd like to go but i'm not dressing up....i heard you did so that's why i've never gone.

sparky

01-08-2004, 02:34 PM

God NO. You don't have to dress up.

Dude, I am a lot of things, but a drag queen ain't one of them.
That would be a deal breaker. Only about half the people were in full on Stevie drag. The rest had a tour shirt or just spiffy duds on.

joe

01-08-2004, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by sparky
God NO. You don't have to dress up.

Dude, I am a lot of things, but a drag queen ain't one of them.
That would be a deal breaker. Only about half the people were in full on Stevie drag. The rest had a tour shirt or just spiffy duds on.

cool....then maybe i'll go this year.

Gypsy 83

01-08-2004, 05:26 PM

hey everyone -- this am todd stephens, writer/director of the film GYPSY 83.

someone emailed me and said i should check out this discussion -- and all i can say is WOW! i am touched and honoured that you are discussing my film -- it makes me very happy! the truth is, it was a message board like this one that inspired the film in the first place.

i have read through everyone's posts and enjoyed them all. i'd be delighted to answer anyone's questions directly about all things GYPSY 83 if you would like to post them here. i will check back and respond the best (and truthfully!) that i can.

all the best,

todd

"cause i wear my boots all summer long"

Livia

01-08-2004, 05:37 PM

WOW! I'm honored to be the first to say "Welcome to the Ledge....Todd!"

My first question - how many cities does "limited release" include? Is Austin one of those cities? ;) I do recall it being here for a film festival, but had I known then that it would "disappear" for all this time, I definitely would have gone to see it!

And why hasn't it been released on video and/or DVD yet?? Haven't you figured out by now how many of us rabid fans would buy it? LOL

:wavey:

sparky

01-08-2004, 05:40 PM

Welcome Todd !

So, I think the question of the day - or the central question here is why weren't you able to use Stevie's songs ? Are we even close in our ideas about the subject ?
Can't wait to see the movie at Outfest in LA. Already have a ticket.

gldstwmn

01-08-2004, 05:58 PM

Todd, are there any plans to release the movie on dvd?

darklinensuit

01-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Welcome, Todd. (Gee, six months ago who'd have thought we'd be thrilled to welcome a guy named Todd?:laugh: )
I'm looking forward to catching this film. And if Livia doesn't convince you to show it in Austin, Houston will be just fine by me! (Enjoy the drive here, Livia.:) :wavey: )

- Jake

joe

01-08-2004, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy 83
hey everyone -- this am todd stephens, writer/director of the film GYPSY 83.

someone emailed me and said i should check out this discussion -- and all i can say is WOW! i am touched and honoured that you are discussing my film -- it makes me very happy! the truth is, it was a message board like this one that inspired the film in the first place.

i have read through everyone's posts and enjoyed them all. i'd be delighted to answer anyone's questions directly about all things GYPSY 83 if you would like to post them here. i will check back and respond the best (and truthfully!) that i can.

all the best,

todd

"cause i wear my boots all summer long"

sorry to be a pessimist, but how do we know this is the real Todd Stevens???

darklinensuit

01-08-2004, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by joe
sorry to be a pessimist, but how do we know this is the real Todd Stevens???

Now that you mention it, how do we know you're the REAL joe?:laugh: :wavey:

- Jake

strandinthewind

01-08-2004, 07:13 PM

Hello Todd - forgive the skeptics, but more than once people have come on this board pretending to be someone, etc. So, if it is you (and I think it is :cool: ) , "welcome to the room" and "stay with us" :laugh:

joe

01-08-2004, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Now that you mention it, how do we know you're the REAL joe?:laugh: :wavey:

- Jake

i'm not....i'm really you. :laugh:

darklinensuit

01-08-2004, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by joe
i'm not....i'm really you. :laugh:

I think it goes "I'm not Me". :cool: :laugh:

And in that case, you've still got five 2003 Mac concerts to pay off. Enjoy!

- Jake

joe

01-08-2004, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
I think it goes "I'm not Me". :cool: :laugh:

And in that case, you've still got five 2003 Mac concerts to pay off. Enjoy!

- Jake

Really!? Cause i went to ten shows...but i only owe for five....that's a bargain!

actually, it's:

"i am you as you are me as we are all together..."

sorry, forgot this is a FM board.....

:D

Gypsy 83

01-08-2004, 07:59 PM

hmmm...how do i prove that i am "really me"? lol

here's one idea -- if joe or someone wants to email me a coded question though our website (gypsy83.com) i can answer it here on the board -- that way you'll know i am the real deal :) does that make sense? just go to the site, and hit "contact us" and i'll get it.

also, i will post a photo here now that has never been seen anywhere.

i am a computer dunce -- can someone tell me how to respond to specific comments? (the way it's bolded at the top?)

todd

strandinthewind

01-08-2004, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy 83
hey everyone -- this am todd stephens, writer/director of the film GYPSY 83.

someone emailed me and said i should check out this discussion -- and all i can say is WOW! i am touched and honoured that you are discussing my film -- it makes me very happy! the truth is, it was a message board like this one that inspired the film in the first place.

i have read through everyone's posts and enjoyed them all. i'd be delighted to answer anyone's questions directly about all things GYPSY 83 if you would like to post them here. i will check back and respond the best (and truthfully!) that i can.

all the best,

todd

"cause i wear my boots all summer long"

Well, I guess the most obvious question is did Stevie know about the film?

Were her songs too expensive too include in the production or did she or her management company refuse to allow them in the move?

If refused, why so?

Nothing like jumping right on in!!!

P.S. I saw the movie and it was good!!!!!!!!! Kudos to you!!!!

Gypsy-Rhiannon

01-09-2004, 04:40 AM

Welcome Todd! I look forward to hearing your responses to the questions already posted!

Pip

whitesoxx

01-09-2004, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy 83
hmmm...how do i prove that i am "really me"? lol

If it's any help, I can confirm that it is really him, as I asked him to join this message board.

So welcome, Todd! :)

Rick

dissention

01-09-2004, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by joe
Really!? Cause i went to ten shows...but i only owe for five....that's a bargain!

Jeezum crow, Joe! Are you and Pattie trying to set records?!?! :laugh:

Welcome to the board, Todd! I can't wait to hear from you about some of the questions others have asked!! I *loved* the movie and please make my day by saying that it'll be on DVD or video soon...LOL

Gypsy 83

01-09-2004, 07:19 PM

hi all --

thanks for all your fab questions! i been swamped but hope to get a chance to reply to them over the weekend.

in stevie's name,

todd

mmm stevie nick

01-09-2004, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
He then immediately apologized when he thought he might get his assed kicked.:nod: Man I'm glad you typed kicked instead of licked. :wavey:

mmm stevie nick

01-09-2004, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Sugar
She replied, "I'm in mourning for the world." Zoinks! I have to get out of the house more often.

littlelies7

01-10-2004, 12:11 AM

Hello Todd! Glad to hear from you! :wavey:

So, what inspired you to make this movie?

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Livia
WOW! I'm honored to be the first to say "Welcome to the Ledge....Todd!"

My first question - how many cities does "limited release" include? Is Austin one of those cities? ;) I do recall it being here for a film festival, but had I known then that it would "disappear" for all this time, I definitely would have gone to see it!

And why hasn't it been released on video and/or DVD yet?? Haven't you figured out by now how many of us rabid fans would buy it? LOL

:wavey:

hi livia!

thanks for the warm welcome!

i believe we are guaranteed 12 cities. but if the film does well, that number will grow -- hopefully to most major cities across the country. not sure about austin specifically, but i will certainly push for itl! i've never been there but hear it's a great town and would love to come.

in terms of the dvd -- we've been holding out for a theatrical release (which we are finally getting -- yahoo!) and the dvd can come out only after it plays in theaters. i'm guessing dvd will happen by the end of the year.

i'm so glad you want to buy it -- very very cool!

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by sparky
Welcome Todd !

So, I think the question of the day - or the central question here is why weren't you able to use Stevie's songs ? Are we even close in our ideas about the subject ?
Can't wait to see the movie at Outfest in LA. Already have a ticket.

thanks, sparky!

the big question! you guys had alot of this right, actually.

both myself and my producers had long talks with stevie's managment, trying to get them on board. at first, they seemed receptive.

we also tried to get to stevie directly, which was not an easy task. at one point we got a friend of hers put a script in her hands, but i think she just referred it back to her managment. as far as i know, she never read it.

i had faith that everything would work out, and went ahead and shot the movie thinking the stars would align and we'd ultimately get permission. although i was always careful to shoot two versions of any stevie specific scenes just in case.

when all was said and done, we showed management the film (complete with stevie music). i'm not going to quote what they said, but the jist was that they felt the film was too edgy. (there is a prominent gay character, etc). i begged them to show it to stevie, thinking if she saw it, she would understand. but the manager refused. as far as i know, stevie has no knowledge of the film.

needless to say, i was heartbroken, as i considered GYPSY 83 to be a loveletter made by her fans. (not just me, but many other stevie fans were involved as well -- for example many of the costumes were designed by my friends Susan Childs (rockandrollgypsy.com, who also inspired the character in the first place) and the lovely Bear (brandisdream.com).

luckily, we were able to get the rights to "talk to me", as you all know she didn't write that one.

i also think stevie's spirit still shines though load and clear. in some weird ways the film was actually made stronger, which i can explain another time.

my wish is that stevie someday sees the film, and finally recieves her love letter.

thanks for coming to the Oufest screening, sparky! i believe it is Feb 18th in Los Angeles.

todd

"Oh and just how deep...
Do you hold that dream
In your hands each night"

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by gldstwmn
Todd, are there any plans to release the movie on dvd?

Dear Gldstwmn --

the video/dvd will be released by Hart Sharp Video (who made the film "Boys Don't Cry", among many others). Hopefully in time for next Christmas :) I think their website is hartsharpvideo.com.

Todd

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by trackaghost
Wow!
Thanks for stopping by Todd!

I have a couple of questions :)
Most importantly I really want to know if Gypsy 83 will ever see the light of day in the UK. Is it likely you will get distribution? There are plenty of us here who would love to see it and particularly in London there is a big audience for independent film and quite a few really cool distributors who specialise in it. Any chance at all?

Also, have you heard at all if Stevie knows about the film and what she thinks about it all?

Oh and after Edge Of Seventeen and Gypsy 83, will your next film have a Stevie theme to it too?

Thanks again!

dear trackaghost --

we have been in talks with a UK distrib but nothing is final. so there is a chance, especially if the film does well in the US. i'm a big Anglophile so i really hope it happens! also, i want robert smith (from the cure) to see it :)

as far as i know, stevie knows nothing about the movie. maybe someone out there knows more about that than i do?

and yes, i think i may just have to name all my films after stevie song title. My next picture is called Desert Angel.

Just kidding :)

T

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by darklinensuit
Welcome, Todd. (Gee, six months ago who'd have thought we'd be thrilled to welcome a guy named Todd?:laugh: )
I'm looking forward to catching this film. And if Livia doesn't convince you to show it in Austin, Houston will be just fine by me! (Enjoy the drive here, Livia.:) :wavey: )

- Jake

thanks, Jake! i really appreciate it :)

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by joe
sorry to be a pessimist, but how do we know this is the real Todd Stevens???

hiya joe --

my name is spelled with a "ph", by the way :)

now, do you believe it's really me?

cheers,

todd

Gypsy 83

01-11-2004, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Hello Todd - forgive the skeptics, but more than once people have come on this board pretending to be someone, etc. So, if it is you (and I think it is :cool: ) , "welcome to the room" and "stay with us" :laugh:

thanks, strandinthewind!

todd

Lorraine

01-11-2004, 06:46 PM

Excuse me for sounding ignorant here, but what exactly is "Night of 1000 Stevies?" I keep seeing this on the board. I conjur up the image of Stevie Nicks lookalikes/fans going to a meeting and all singing Stevie songs. Have I got it right/wrong?

Not heard of this before.

Lorraine :)

diamondsnake

01-11-2004, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Lorraine
Excuse me for sounding ignorant here, but what exactly is "Night of 1000 Stevies?" I keep seeing this on the board. I conjur up the image of Stevie Nicks lookalikes/fans going to a meeting and all singing Stevie songs. Have I got it right/wrong?

Not heard of this before.

Lorraine :)

People go to a big fan gathering and many dress up like Stevie. Fans sing Stevie songs on stage, some serious and some in a light-hearted mocking form.

Lorraine

01-11-2004, 07:14 PM

Thanks Christopher.

Actually I've just come across it on a site called "sisters of the Moon" it's a good site =%2flinks&o=0&u=http://www.rockandrollgypsy.com/premiere.htm

Here is the link but I don't think I've inserted it properly, sorry, not too good with links but I did try.

Lorraine :)

strandinthewind

01-11-2004, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Gypsy 83
thanks, strandinthewind!

todd

You are more than welcome!!!! AND - thank you for your "insider information!!!" Just fascinating!!!!

coldplay

01-12-2004, 12:51 AM

Todd

I was extremely disappointed to have missed the screening at the Melbourne Queer Film Festival. I subsequently learnt that it had also screened at Sydney Mardi Gras.

I heard that Feast organisers (in Adelaide) wanted to screen the film at their festival but was turned down by distributor or producer. Are you able to confirm this and/or comment on why this occured?

Also, I once checked out the details on IMDB and noticed an actress who starred in the film was called 'Stephanie McVay. Is that a real name?

What directors or (national) film styles do you like?

Cheers
CP