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SpyNote
09-10-2003, 12:49 AM
So it was a discography mistake? Can someone who bought the new tourbook confirm this.
Old Tourbook (http://sln-news.info/images/syw_tourbook/index.htm)
Daniel
wondergirl9847
09-10-2003, 12:51 AM
So, nobody was upset with the photos of them in the tourbook, eh?
BUT...isn't the bird still in the NEW tourbooks? That's what everyone was wondering about at the last show where the books were sold. :confused:
SpyNote
09-10-2003, 01:02 AM
That's apparently the only mistake anyone can find. Do you think this tourbook will end up scarce like Street Angel?
Daniel
gypsysara
09-10-2003, 11:35 AM
Im hoping to get one in LA, so I hope not!
stevierocks87
09-10-2003, 11:59 AM
Yes. the tourbooks still have that same cover for the 1980 live album. To me, the entire book doesn't look ANY DIFFERANT than the original tourbook posted on the snl.net website (from what I saw of Sharon's....I didn't get one) , so I have no idea what the deal was with them showing up for than one show and then disappearing to get them "fixed" :confused:
:wavey: adam :wavey:
PenguinHead
09-10-2003, 12:00 PM
I have a hard time believing that they pitched all of those much delayed tour books because of that (somewhat inconsequential)album cover mistake. That may have been an assumption of a fellow Ledgie...and then got passed around to the point where it is now considered fact.
There have been plenty of inaccuracies in Fleetwood Mac releases throughout the years. I've never heard of any of those being destroyed and reprinted.
Still, who were the idiots responsible for that??? They obviously weren't familiar with the band at all! The curious thing is that the bird photo is from a CD issued in Germany by some obscure distributer...and contains music from the Boston Tea Party concerts in 1969.
There is no excuse for this mistake. Further evidence that Fleetwood Mac is supported by an unprofessional, out-of-touch and seemingly inept staff that do nothing to serve their fans and everything to make the band look bad.
SpyNote
09-10-2003, 12:54 PM
I have a hard time believing that they pitched all of those much delayed tour books because of that (somewhat inconsequential)album cover mistake. That may have been an assumption of a fellow Ledgie...and then got passed around to the point where it is now considered fact.
For all we know, they could have just submitted the wrong quantity to the printing plant.
Daniel
greatdarkwing
09-10-2003, 01:40 PM
Rumor had it that a band member was upset by a photo of them...has anyone seen if any photo is different?
~Alex
sodascouts
09-10-2003, 01:44 PM
They didn't fix it after all this time? That's just SAD!
greatdarkwing
09-10-2003, 02:44 PM
Apparently they did fix it, that is why they released them now, but rumor had it a MALE band member didn't llike his photo, and the books were recalled after Lubbock.....
~Alex
Josh2003
09-10-2003, 03:59 PM
Hmmm...maybe the old tourbook has a picture of Mick looking out at the audience, and you can see dollar signs in his eyes. Look closely people. I bet he wanted that changed.
SpyNote
09-17-2003, 06:34 PM
So I received my tour program in the mail today (I had asked my friend to buy one for me at the 9/13 Chicago show).
I'm actually pleasantly surprised that it looks OK. The production quality is nowhere near other tour programs I've purchased (e.g. Tina Turner, Madonna, Cher). But it far exceeds anything Stevie has released on her tours, though the Whole Lotta Trouble tour program is probably one of the stronger ones from a graphic design perspective. Thank God, Chris Nicks had nothing to do with this one. :rolleyes:
*SPOILER*
In case you don't plan to buy one...
The tour program has 24 pages, with almost all of the pages including some color, plus the cover. The color scheme is black, red and white throughout. The cover features each band member in one of four squares. Turn the page, each band member is featured again in consecutive vertical shots (Stevie, John, Mick, Lindsey). An eight-page essay, titled "The Opening Act" by Rolling Stone editor David Wild follows next, with two pages of concert photos arranged in a collage. Collages generally breed tacky design, but at least the photos are neatly arranged.
Next up is an eight-page "Q&A with the Band" -- questions about the Say You Will album, life on the road, life without Christine, favorite songs to perform onstage, the band chemistry and the supporting musicians. Each band member gets a full-page picture in this section.
Next, a few pages for the tour rehearsal and the supporting musicians. Two pages for the discography, with the 1980 Live album cover error. A page for FleetwoodMac.com and then the tour credits.
Overall, it's a good tour program. I like the full page color pictures of each band member, though Stevie's has the worst picture quality of the four (it's blurry and looks like a typical "fan shot" from the side of the stage). The design is consistent, employing the same color and typography as the album. The overall selection of the photography could be A LOT better. I'm guessing someone in the fan club took these shots, rather than a concert photographer, because they are not high quality shots; many are blurry, others are grainy. No photographer is credited either, which leads you to believe this task was delegated to someone on the inside.
Out of five stars, I'd give it three stars. Not bad, not spectacular.
Daniel
strandinthewind
09-17-2003, 07:15 PM
I am just ahppy my big caboose did not make it in the book as it was in Neal Preston's way several times at the Nashville show :cool: :laugh:
Sarah
09-17-2003, 08:18 PM
Yes.. the discography mistake was annoying. As are the typos and the fact that Sharon's picture looks REALLY crappy.
I'm glad to have it for the big pictures, but it's really not that great. A little overpriced considering the smidgen of info that's in there-- and how we've heard all of those questions and answers a million times.
ShangriLaTroubl
09-17-2003, 08:53 PM
Well the TISL tourbook was OK...I didnt like the fact that it didnt have any pics from that tour tho...but i guess thats what happens when its designed before the tour starts...so thats why i do like this one...the album cover is no big deal to me...i dont care....im tryin not be ate up about paying 40 bucks for the thing tho lol
Chris
WELSH WITCH
09-20-2003, 03:13 PM
Hey all,
I know that bird.
Like PenguinHead said it's from the Boston Tea Party but I haven't got it on CD. I have a 4 vinyl album set of these recordings. Got it on a fleamarket a couple of years ago.
Dimphy
gypsysara
09-24-2003, 04:42 PM
I got my tourbook in today from Fan Fire. It came creased in the middle and bent in the upper R corner from handling in the mail. Its a huge book size-wise. Love some of the snapshots in the collage pages. But some of the photos, IMO are really crummy. There are also a few photos used more than once in the book. Worth the $20 but def not $40. Love the page pimping the fan club :laugh: There is a cute photo of Stevie & Lindsey together sitting on the floor near Mick. Scale of 1-10 = 6.
seeker007nmss
09-25-2003, 10:34 AM
So, did they actually change the tourbook? or is it the same one that they had before? I am confused. Are there 2 versions or just one?
ShangriLaTroubl
09-25-2003, 12:38 PM
I dont notice any changes at all
Chris M.
dissention
09-25-2003, 12:59 PM
Has anyone notices the shot of Stevie wearing a MINI?! She's got cute legs, if I do say so myself. It's on the opposite page of the picture of the band onstage, ready to take a bow. It's a picture of the whole stage, but if you look closely, you can see Stevie in a mini. :nod:
teedee
09-25-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by ShangriLaTroubl
Well the TISL tourbook was OK...I didnt like the fact that it didnt have any pics from that tour tho...but i guess thats what happens when its designed before the tour starts...so thats why i do like this one...the album cover is no big deal to me...i dont care....im tryin not be ate up about paying 40 bucks for the thing tho lol
Chris
you paid 40 dollars for the book, where did you get it from ?
ShangriLaTroubl
09-26-2003, 12:29 PM
the atlanta show on sept 7 were sellin em for 40 bucks
CHris
teedee
09-26-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by ShangriLaTroubl
the atlanta show on sept 7 were sellin em for 40 bucks
CHris
wow that is not fair . i paid 20 dollars at the boston show, and they were still the ones with the bird on the cover of the live show lp. but i dont care about that, but if i paid 40 and then they were half price, that just isnt fair. maybe they werent selling at forty , have they been forty from when they first went out.
tamaraluvsFM
09-26-2003, 02:53 PM
Well I recevied my tourbook in the mail and I must say I am quite dissappointed. I feel like I am looking at the same pics over and over again. This could have been a great tourbook for us fans, but someone seems to have rushed to get "something" out....
and yes I know its the second leg but damn...just sad.
Tamara
dissention
09-26-2003, 03:08 PM
I've seen better tourbooks, but when you put it up against Stevie's solo tourbooks, it's AMAZING! I love the size of it and I love the page-size pictures of each member. I especially love Lindsey's page and Stevie's smaller picture opposite her page. :D
gypsysara
09-26-2003, 04:46 PM
I thought Stevie's 98' Enchanted tourbook / calendar was huge, this is gigantic in comparison to that. I put it with my others yesterday and I was surprised. I agree with Tamara, there are photos in multiple places. That I do NOT understand. At a minimum they could have not done the retreads. I agree... a bummer... but I will say better than nothing.
dissention
09-26-2003, 05:34 PM
I love Stevie's answers in the Q&A. They're all, like, one word answers. Whereas Mick and Lindsey will recite War and Peace. I also love the article by David Wild on the first few page. The part about Stevie's dream cracks me up. "I had a dream last night!" :laugh:
PenguinHead
09-27-2003, 11:00 AM
I went to the Boston concert and purchased the tour book for $20, knowing full well that it sucked. (The obsessive collector in me can't resist) This idea that the tour books were delayed then pulled because of minor (yet unexplicable!) discography oversite is bogus!! Some fan probably thought that was the reason; the theory got spread around, and now people think that it is fact. Most likely, the reason is just piss-pour management.
I noticed in the credits that Chris Nicks is still part of the merchandising team. That pretty much says it all for me. The photos and layouts are so amatuerish, and not up to par with the quality of the band. It's very disheartening to see.
And the rest of the merchandise...T-shirts, bears and key chains? They suck royally too. It's so insulting to their fans.
ShangriLaTroubl
09-27-2003, 11:07 AM
the tourbook being delayed still makes no sense to me...because the discography thing is still wrong in the tourbooks going out right now at shows...they never corrected it
Chris
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