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Seven The Hard Way was Benatar’s 6th studio album. Rock a Little was only Stevie’s 3rd. Seven went Gold and had two top 40 hits (Sex as a Weapon and Invincible) the same as Rock A Little. While Rock went platinum, it was a critical flop. Stevie’s 4th album, TOSOTM only managed to go gold and her 5th, Street Angel didn’t even do that until after The Dance. After the Dance, The Other Side went Platinum and Street Angel went Gold but it was only because of The Dance. Stevie only had 2 non-patchy, good albums in the 80s, Bella Donna and The Wild Heart and they are the only ones that went multi platinum and that’s because they were the only ones that were actual good albums. Last edited by Jondalar; 12-24-2018 at 12:52 AM.. |
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I consider even The Wild Heart to be patchy (but still good overall).
I'm agnostic on Benatar as I don't know her stuff. All I can say is that Stevie's output from 1973-83 is just astonishing. Writing goes a long way with me. Benatar may have had to churn out an album a year, but she didn't have to write the songs. Stevie wrote a ton of great songs from 1972-82. That should count for a lot. I know I'm speaking from a place of ignorance, but I can't imagine any album of Benatar's equaling Buckingham Nicks (yes I know Stevie had a duet partner there, but she wrote all the great songs; and in my view that album should have counted in her Hall Of Fame consideration). As for Stevie's solo albums after 1983, the only good one so far as I am concerned is Trouble In Shangri-La (probably an apt description of Fleetwood Mac behind the scenes vis-a-vis the image they were trying to project). Last edited by cbBen; 12-24-2018 at 03:01 PM.. |
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It’s not fair of you to compare Seven to Rock A Little. Seven was Pat’s 6th album. Rock A Little was only Stevie’s 3rd and Pat never had The Dance like TISL (Stevie’s 6th) to prop it up. Stevie never even had a hit in her 6th. Last edited by Jondalar; 12-24-2018 at 02:59 AM.. |
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All this business about "business," about sales? Is that what the RRHOF induction officially recognizes?
Why aren't the Captain and Tennille in the hall of fame? According to Wikipedia, they had five gold and platinum albums plus a bunch of hit songs. Surely some other quality is operative in any decision about who gets inducted?
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TISL is Stevie’s 6th album.
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It's not a fair comparison because, by 2001, the kind of music that was popular had changed markedly from when Pat's 6th album came out.
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2019 RnR HoF nominee selection
not sure whether this was posted somewhere here already, but since you all are discussing Benetar, the fact she was considered and why was SN selected as a nominee may fit here:
http://www.futurerocklegends.com/blo...19_Ballot.html The Inside Scoop on the 2019 Rock Hall Ballot October 15, 2018 08:04 PM Filed in: 2019 Ceremony | Rock Hall Politics Nominating Committee member Alan Light joined DJs Nik Carter and Lori Majewski on SiriusXM to announce the 2019 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees last week. Light revealed fascinating information about the discussions in the nominating meeting that led to this year’s ballot. Here are some of the highlights: Alan Light personally used his two picks to advocate for Janet Jackson and The Cure, and got both on the ballot. Light felt that Janet Jackson deserved one more chance on the ballot this year because of increased exposure as a result of her tour and other awards. The Nominating Committee has been rotating through The Cure, The Smiths and Depeche Mode on recent ballots, but Light felt the time was right to give The Cure another chance because of their 40th anniversary shows and other publicity. When asked why Judas Priest wasn’t nominated again after doing well in the fan poll last year, Light revealed that they had done “horrendously” in the actual Voting Committee tally, so they decided to shift the focus to Def Leppard. Majewski mentioned that the Nominating Committee now has 30 members -- 23 men and seven women (up from six last year). Light said there were 28 people in the room this year (Seymour Stein was calling in from L.A., as revealed on the Who Cares About the Rock Hall? podcast.) Light stressed that the Nominating Committee crafts the ballot in a way where they try not to nominate artists who are in a similar lane, so as not to split the vote. Alan Light regarding the Stevie Nicks nomination: ”In the Nominating room, Pat Benatar came up, Cyndi Lauper came up, The Go-Go's came up and the Eurythmics were in this conversation, and not that it comes down to this, but the women in the room really did start to coalesce around Stevie and push things that way out of the mix that was there. That was the one that --and it's silly to say that women are one piece of what's here-- when it's women of the 80s, I don't think you put Pat, Cyndi and Stevie on a ballot together in the same way that you don't put The Cure, The Smiths and Depeche on the ballot together. It was actually the women in the committee who sort of led the focus to Stevie out of that list.” Alan Light said that Dave Grohl was responsible for getting Devo nominated this year and Paul Shaffer is behind The Zombies appearances on the ballot. Light admitted that the Nominating Committee did in fact take the Rock Hall Museum’s Voice Your Choice visitor poll into account when considering the nominees. Stevie Nicks and Def Leppard were the top two leaders all summer and both were nominated. Rock Hall Foundation President Joel Peresman for some reason tried to deny the poll’s influence to the Plain Dealer, "The new in-museum voting system does not factor into the nomination process as the members of the nominating committee aren't made aware of that. And we rely on their independent thinking, which in this case happened to match up.” Light mentioned that David Fricke has previously advocated for The Guess Who and that Stevie Van Zandt tries to nominate Procol Harum every year. Rock Hall Museum President Greg Harris and Rock Hall VP of Education and Visitor Engagement Jason Hanley both joined the show to discuss the nominees. Each separately mentioned how cool it was that Stevie Nicks would become the first woman to be a multiple inductee. Despite having written a book about him, Light didn’t think Jeff Buckley should be inducted into the Rock Hall. http://www.futurerocklegends.com/Nom..._Committee.php The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating Committee 2018 Jon Landau, chairman Sandy Alouete James Bernard Nathan Brackett Cliff Burnstein Anthony DeCurtis Reginald C. Dennis David Dorn Bill Flanagan David Fricke Elysa Gardner Holly George-Warren Meg Griffin Dave Grohl Greg Harris Mike Kaufman Lenny Kaye Rick Krim Alan Light Rob Light Amy Linden Tom Morello Amanda Petrusich Robbie Robertson Paul Shaffer Seymour Stein John Sykes Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson Steven Van Zandt
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Today on the Sirius XM channel Classic Rewind, DJ Kristine Stone played Silver Springs. When it ended, she mentioned that Stevie will be making history as the first woman inducted into the RRHOF twice. Then she added, "Take that Lindsey!" followed by a fake apology, "I'm sorry, but he has just rubbed me the wrong way for years."
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I think that’s kind of funny, I don’t know the dj in question and am not a taffetahead or whatever you are if you say a word against Lindsey... But it made me laugh.. Last edited by sue; 01-16-2019 at 06:40 PM.. Reason: Missed a word |
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