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Old 01-26-2021, 11:51 AM
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Well, that and being a misogynist.

I wonder how gldstwmn is these days.
Oh God please.... It's usually fun around here!!
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Old 01-26-2021, 05:06 PM
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I wonder how gldstwmn is these days.
Oh my....just the thought made me shudder.
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Oh my....just the thought made me shudder.
Steve had me grow hair!! Then it stood up.
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Regarding the whole debate about the eb and flow of Stevie's solo career...one thing is for sure.

As said in her own behind the music episode, her solo career was tanked by 1996.

The only reason she bounced back was due to The Dance tour, end of story.

The Enchanted Box set and tour NEVER would of happened without that tour happening first.

It would be interesting to think about where her career would be now if the 1997 reunion hadn't happened.
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Old 02-02-2021, 06:01 PM
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Regarding the whole debate about the eb and flow of Stevie's solo career...one thing is for sure.

As said in her own behind the music episode, her solo career was tanked by 1996.

The only reason she bounced back was due to The Dance tour, end of story.

The Enchanted Box set and tour NEVER would of happened without that tour happening first.

It would be interesting to think about where her career would be now if the 1997 reunion hadn't happened.
Considering Smashing Pumpkins had a minor alternative hit with “Landslide” in 1994 and Hole had a hit with “Gold Dust Woman” in 1996, all Stevie really needed was to quit smoking, drop some weight, get a makeover, and start working with younger, relevant musicians like Dave Grohl. She could still have assumed the godmotherly rock survivor with the scars to prove it persona that she took on in 1997. Maybe have a Stevie Nicks comeback special on MTV and Clear Channel. I doubt it would have had the same impact, but she could have been brought back to viability without Fleetwood Mac.
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Old 02-02-2021, 11:43 PM
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Regarding the whole debate about the eb and flow of Stevie's solo career...one thing is for sure.
As said in her own behind the music episode, her solo career was tanked by 1996.
The only reason she bounced back was due to The Dance tour, end of story.
The Enchanted Box set and tour NEVER would of happened without that tour happening first.
It would be interesting to think about where her career would be now if the 1997 reunion hadn't happened.
She's had the luxury of being saved so many times. What's worse is that she thinks she's done it all on her own. Oh wait, Tom helped her.
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She's had the luxury of being saved so many times. What's worse is that she thinks she's done it all on her own. Oh wait, Tom helped her.
If $he'd been a fat ugly girl in 1975, $he'd be lucky to even be a footnote in music history.

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Considering Smashing Pumpkins had a minor alternative hit with “Landslide” in 1994 and Hole had a hit with “Gold Dust Woman” in 1996, all Stevie really needed was to quit smoking, drop some weight, get a makeover, and start working with younger, relevant musicians like Dave Grohl. She could still have assumed the godmotherly rock survivor with the scars to prove it persona that she took on in 1997. Maybe have a Stevie Nicks comeback special on MTV and Clear Channel. I doubt it would have had the same impact, but she could have been brought back to viability without Fleetwood Mac.
Thank you. And the other 4 would have been far LESS viable
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Thank you. And the other 4 would have been far LESS viable
They would have been less viable without Stevie, but they would have been way more viable compared to what Fleetwood Mac had become. Christine and Lindsey had enough songs between them that they could have still had a viable, credible set without Stevie. However, none would have had anything close to The Dance.
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Considering Smashing Pumpkins had a minor alternative hit with “Landslide” in 1994 and Hole had a hit with “Gold Dust Woman” in 1996, all Stevie really needed was to quit smoking, drop some weight, get a makeover, and start working with younger, relevant musicians like Dave Grohl. She could still have assumed the godmotherly rock survivor with the scars to prove it persona that she took on in 1997. Maybe have a Stevie Nicks comeback special on MTV and Clear Channel. I doubt it would have had the same impact, but she could have been brought back to viability without Fleetwood Mac.
I never said she wasn't capable of some kind of comeback on her own.

My point was, the immediate bounce that she got from the Dance Tour most likely wouldn't of happened in the same way if she had to do it on her own.

And quite frankly, she had already been trying to quit smoking, drop some weight, get a makeover on and off between 1990-1994...and the comeback still hadn't happened.

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Thank you. And the other 4 would have been far LESS viable
It's a two way street. She wasn't exactly viable at the time of the dance reunion. People somehow forget that. She was playing on a stage that was a converted semi truck bed in st pete beach the year before. Not exactly killing it at the local amphitheatre.
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She's had the luxury of being saved so many times. What's worse is that she thinks she's done it all on her own. Oh wait, Tom helped her.
Stevie the most out of the five most likely benefitted the most from the instrumentation of the band.
That Fender Rhodes repetition needs that band play. Welcome to the Room with the percussion and tropical guitar. If there was a producer who thought to have those elements come together, God bless that person.
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My point was, the immediate bounce that she got from the Dance Tour most likely wouldn't of happened in the same way if she had to do it on her own.
And I agree with that point.

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And quite frankly, she had already been trying to quit smoking, drop some weight, get a makeover on and off between 1990-1994...and the comeback still hadn't happened.
She only got off Klonopin in 1993 or so and she was still pretty bloated and big haired in 1994, so the comeback hadn’t really started. She was ready to quit altogether until she lost weight after the 1994 tour.

However, the Smashing Pumpkins and Hole covering her songs created a renewed interest in Stevie. So, the time was right for her image makeover.
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She's had the luxury of being saved so many times. What's worse is that she thinks she's done it all on her own. Oh wait, Tom helped her.
Stevie needed the reunion the least of the lot. Remember, her rock bottom still peaked at #45, the same as Go Insane.

While the other four could have done something moderately successful without Stevie, Christine was clearly doing the reunion as her grand sendoff, so there would be no way to follow it up (not that Lindsey did, anyway). If forced to be a band without either of the ladies, the three guys would have become a theater/package tour band. So, in that sense, Stevie has saved them, too. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship.
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It's a two way street. She wasn't exactly viable at the time of the dance reunion. People somehow forget that. She was playing on a stage that was a converted semi truck bed in st pete beach the year before. Not exactly killing it at the local amphitheatre.
and that was after Smashing Pumpkins and Hole covers.

btw i still think Hole cover of GDW is the best version of that song. (sorry LB and glass breaking, still not as good as Hole!)
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